HONDA FORZA 350 VS YAMAHA XMAX 300 / STREET RACE

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
  • IN THIS VIDEO I SEEN A YAMAHA XMAX 300 PULL UP TO THE RED LIGHT AND I MASHED UP BESIDE HIM TO SEE IF HE WANTED TO RACE ME ONCE THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN.
    I HAD NO IDEA WHO THIS PERSON WAS OR WHAT TYPE OF MODIFICATIONS HE HAD DONE ON HIS YAMAHA XMAX 300.
    MY HONDA FORZA 350 IS ALL STOCK AND NOTHING WHATSOEVER HAS BEEN DONE TO THE MOTORBIKE.
    NO MODIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
    WHO WILL WIN THE RACE.
    WILL IT BE THE HONDA FORZA 350
    OR
    WILL IT BE THE YAMAHA XMAX 300
    WAIT TILL THE END AND SEE.
    RED COWBOY MEDIA

ความคิดเห็น • 62

  • @fotisproutzopoulos20
    @fotisproutzopoulos20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I had in my garage an xmax300 2019 model but i sold it after 2 years and 35.000km for the updated model forza 350.
    I bought the forza 350 on September 2021 without test driving it.
    Let me share with you my impressions after 2 weeks of driving it and how it is compared to the xmax300.
    • The seat material is not as good as the xmax300 and the whole construction closing and opening feels cheap.
    • It has only one storage space on the left side and it is very deep and not easy to reach your stuff. Again the construction feels very cheap compare to the xmax300 which has 2 storage spaces.
    • The biggest problem was some kind of vibrations that i was feeling at the seat, at the mirrors and at the steering when the scooter wasnt moving. I didnt faced anything like this with the xmax300 or any other scooter i have had.
    • Fuel consumption about the same as the xmax for sure not better.
    • Brakes better than the xmax300
    • Rear Suspension is hard and not so soft as the xmax300.
    • Steering is about the same as the xmax 300 small differences.
    • The forza 350 engine feels quiter and stronger than the xmax300.
    • The instruments and the mirrors are more premium than the xmax300.
    Overall it didnt worth the upgrade and the whole experience of the forza350 left me unsatisfied.
    The biggest problem for me is the vibrations of the scooter because it makes it feel cheap.
    The xmax300 for me is the better option.

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's exactly how I felt m8.
      If you read my other reviews on the 10 things I hate about the honda forza 350 you will see we both nailed the same issues m8.
      Appreciate your feedback.
      Honda needs to address this shit and fix it for sure
      Lots of small issues at a priumium price for this scooter.

    • @bobnewhart4318
      @bobnewhart4318 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the fuel economy like for the xmax compared to 150cc scooters?

    • @audiophilipp
      @audiophilipp ปีที่แล้ว

      What about riding comfort ?

  • @johnbrando2666
    @johnbrando2666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honda shame on your forza 350 cc weak!

  • @TW-fg4kt
    @TW-fg4kt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The modified exhaust makes the biggest difference of all. Put one of those on your stock Forza and you’d be at least equal. Also you should have had your screen up and your visor down.

  • @deadcat5930
    @deadcat5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Using same tyres, stock versions of both and same weight of the drivers forza is quicker, and the build quality is amazing.

    • @BikingChap
      @BikingChap 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because tyres are making that kind of difference in acceleration. 🤔

    • @giminirush77
      @giminirush77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In your dream🤣

  • @JoshConnectMedia
    @JoshConnectMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You should have been in the know that Honda scooters are a hold on and never dance away system. They will take you where ever you wanna go safely, but not in a "drug race ".

  • @hermanstokbrood
    @hermanstokbrood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well, till about 100km/h the Forza was way faster and that's more important than the last 20-40 kms.

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      True.
      Take off was much faster and I had allot of weight on the bike also

  • @Anton-.
    @Anton-. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh come on Man U let me down!!🙃
    Torque is far better on ur bike. He has modified for sure, unless u need some driving lessons!!🤣🤣
    However,It would be really nice to make a video with a comparison of these two scooters!

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I plan to race a stock bike not modified.
      I will make a few more videos soon.
      1 video will be top 10 things I hate about the forza 350 and the other will be a comparison between the two

    • @Anton-.
      @Anton-. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NickCaliThai looking forward for both!!

  • @MarkLoris
    @MarkLoris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad I have a 2023 Xmax ...I can outrun my friends Burgman 400 .....it's a tank c9mpared to Xmax ....too heavy and bulky feeling compared to nimble feeling more maneuverable Xmax !!!!
    Yamaha rules Honda all day long !!!!

  • @zylynlamis9285
    @zylynlamis9285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With his aftermarket exhaust he will definitely be faster. Aftermarket exhaust gives extra horsepower on the motorcycle. I tried it on my motorcycle same model and brand the aftermarket exhaust equipped bike was way faster and powerful then the stock.

    • @mrcreations786
      @mrcreations786 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to fix this after market exhaust for My Forza 350band Xmax 300. Please suggest the exhausts for me

  • @natisimani4777
    @natisimani4777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for another great video... I think that you going to win but is not epend and i still think that him win just because is something like upgrade xmax..

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I think the same.
      So sad.
      But I will race again
      Promise.

  • @stevemiller7433
    @stevemiller7433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honda does not import the Forza 350 into the US. so sad. It looks like it would be perfect for my needs.

  • @shadowdove3250
    @shadowdove3250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Forza is the better engineered machine all round, apart from maybe the suspension since it's a bit more subjective, rather than objective. The Forza engine is a short stroke, oversquare design. Meaning it has a wider bore, shorter stroke. This by default makes the engine far more reliable, more resilient even at higher RPMS. Not only that, Honda knows this and made the compression ratio lower, much lower than the xmax 300 which again extends engine life and reliability. If the forza engine was tuned to the extent the xmax 300 is, by increasing it's stroke and compression ratio the honda would be rediculously overpowered, almost laughably, it would be producing over 45hp, way to powerful, which then everything needs to be changed to suit it.
    Xmax is a good machine, but it is more highly tuned using longer stroke + high compression which is good for performance but worse in every other way, it's a much smaller engine and needs that tuning to compare to the Honda.
    Xmax is more highly tuned / stressed which the Honda does not need to do. Think of the Honda as a very relaxed machine that does not have much internal stress going on, this is why the service intervals are insane. 12k on the honda vs 10k on the xmax.
    That xmax in the video had an exhaust, was probably lighter and by default the xmax is geared for higher speed, whilst the Honda is geared for acceleration and torque.
    In all areas, the honda is the better more refined machine from a technical stand point. They both have similar hp and torque numbers, but one is a smaller engine and the other is a larger engine. They both produce kind of similar numbers but the yamaha is more highly stressed to get those numbers, which is probably not a good thing on a scooter, better on a race bike or race car.

  • @billsjapanlife8387
    @billsjapanlife8387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like fun. You seem to have the language down. I wish that I could learn Japanese better. Be safe!

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pratice everyday. Have your gf talk to you in Japanese only and don't give up

  • @JC-iq5td
    @JC-iq5td ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for that ive just ordered a new X Max

  • @peterwright1347
    @peterwright1347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this you finally done it 👍👍 bet that Xmax was modified proper !!

  • @marvfear
    @marvfear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No matter. When you get to my age that extra few Kph is not so important. (Retired and sensible so far) even traded my Kawa 650 Vulcan S for a 2021 Kawa V 900 custom. This week pick up 2nd bike .. Forzer 350. Probably use the latter more. Will luv ‘me both. Mr Merv

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree 100 percent m8.
      Take it easy and enjoy life for what it is today.
      Age creeps up so freaking fast.
      Stay safe m8.
      And enjoy your new toys.

  • @SittiwatParnwipa
    @SittiwatParnwipa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't believe that he have modify only exhaust. His Scooter have have more modify than his said!! เชื่อผมเถอะ

  • @supithanhitanonno.1267
    @supithanhitanonno.1267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome, I'm the owner of that xmax. 👍

  • @テル-k2i
    @テル-k2i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Video!
    My maximum speed of XMax250 is 150 kilometers.

  • @jbrenfanes1337
    @jbrenfanes1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the difference. maybe your weight..compre to the driver of xmas

  • @brianphuket5951
    @brianphuket5951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's skinny, maybe you got a fat ass? hahaha 555 Nice try Cowboy, So far you are the only one with an English comparison...Keep up the great work Dood.🛵

  • @MotorcyclesTVOfficial
    @MotorcyclesTVOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yamaha XMAX 300 is better than Forza 350 Lmao (how different 350CC and 300CC )

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No idea but that bike was modified.
      I need to get some new exhaust and do up my Intake.
      But I will try to race an all original xmax to see what happens

    • @brianphuket5951
      @brianphuket5951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NickCaliThai > It [XMax] may be better on HP and Performance, but I don't think Yamaha build quality is better. Honda. They make it simple.

  • @andreakizomba8849
    @andreakizomba8849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    may be thai driver was lighter , and you beat him at the beginning. so forza is better

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks m8, I will try to put a new exhaust system soon

  • @harii3803
    @harii3803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not a direct comparison, considering you are prob heavier and have top box, top box alone will make yours more draggy.

  • @bobnewhart4318
    @bobnewhart4318 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the fuel economy like for the xmax compared to 150cc scooters?

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forza does very good m8.
      I can go on days with no fill up.
      If I drive on 1 full tank I can get around 3.5 houres

  • @นัทตินัยชุ่มวงษ์
    @นัทตินัยชุ่มวงษ์ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like you thailand accent❤️

  • @AK-xu1fx
    @AK-xu1fx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's impossible man. The Forza 350 should be faster than Xmax 300.
    Was your top box empty and windscreen down?

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We both had weight on both bikes.
      The xmax took off.
      Maybe his modifications made a huge difference.
      I lost.
      But I will race again.

  • @polak1982
    @polak1982 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is xmax 300 is going to be big enough for 6'5" tall rider?

    • @MarkLoris
      @MarkLoris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm 6' 3" 210 lbs. 34" inseam.....and I have plenty of room .......Xmax is better than Honda and Suzuki !!!! You will love the Xmax......just set on one to see if you have enough room !!!

  • @darkelf1000
    @darkelf1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the xmax. Was his stock?

    • @mboscht1
      @mboscht1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, at least he has an Akrapovic. And probably a Malossi variator.

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not stock.
      He had some fake exhaust system and some air box for more flow.
      A quick mod but did great on the top end.
      I will upgrade soon for sure.

    • @deadcat5930
      @deadcat5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forza is quicker and better quality. Rest is just aesthetics.

    • @BikingChap
      @BikingChap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deadcat5930 not according to this video it’s not.

  • @abcxyz819
    @abcxyz819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So funny

  • @darkelf1000
    @darkelf1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    like your helmet, is it any good?

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I haven't tried crashing on it just yet lol but on the comfort side, it's super cozy I must say.
      Easy to use glasses with and very very soft around the head
      I love it for sure.
      Cost was around 75 usd ish.
      Not bad

    • @darkelf1000
      @darkelf1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NickCaliThai haha very funny. i wear glasses so thats good to know. thanks man

  • @Elmuchacho17
    @Elmuchacho17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video dude! What you think is better Xmax or Forza 350?

    • @NickCaliThai
      @NickCaliThai  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I need to rent a xmax soon and see what's up.
      Lots of people are split between the two
      I am happy with my bike for sure but I would like to see for my self which is better.
      However the xmax to me is like a caddilac and I would think the forza would be like a Pontiac lol.
      Not sure of that makes sense.
      Thanks for watching and suscribing to My channel m8