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  • @ShaizaShamim
    @ShaizaShamim ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I've always thought the Lady Dior looked like a super fancy child's lunchbox. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too! 🙋🏽‍♀️

    • @Isabellaojodo
      @Isabellaojodo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought there was something wrong with my eyes but yes it does look like a lunchbox 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    • @SONYARenee
      @SONYARenee ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree

  • @hildeh6423
    @hildeh6423 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love my lady dior in medium. People seem to use it as a bag for party. But I think this is a good everyday bag and elevate the everyday look. Jeans and t-shirts and lady Dior 👌

  • @karyannfontaine8757
    @karyannfontaine8757 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love vintage luxury. I do not crave the bags shown on the internet by influencers. Love quality, usable style, small bags. This subject of the bags for which customers inquire vs. what they actually buy is quite relevant. Thank you for this one Katherine. Would you make a video on quiet luxury?

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There have been a ton of videos on quiet luxury, and I definitely have thoughts! Maybe I'll put something together, but I'm worried that it will no longer be topical by the time I get around to it

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      I always love providing my insights!! happy to share

  • @philosophia2000
    @philosophia2000 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I was surprised to see a long line of people standing in line to get into Chanel boutique this weekend in Beverly Hills. The more Chanel raise price, the more people want it

    • @catnip4587
      @catnip4587 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I have heard Chanel is planning another price increase soon so maybe they were trying to buy before the increase?

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It’s true, and that is their choice. Me- I’m out. And they’re good with that 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@catnip4587 definitely possible!

    • @mamad5686
      @mamad5686 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you say Beverly Hills? Go figure.

  • @IrinaVanRonkel
    @IrinaVanRonkel ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I love Bottega and I’m so glad it’s not the most desirable brand, I feel very special and under radar wearing my Bottega bags.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's the right way to think about it! It's definitely more under the radar!!!

    • @ajohonly3721
      @ajohonly3721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People are crazy about it here in Europe.

    • @llkoolbean4935
      @llkoolbean4935 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. I luv their quality.

  • @JillMaurer
    @JillMaurer ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Loved this video! I love the vintage bags when they are in good shape. If memory serves, the GST retailed for $2900 at the time it was discontinued so $4000 sounds like a lot to me. I get that it is a decent price now. I remember when a classic flap was around $1600, but I haven't purchased Chanel in years because the quality has gone down while the prices have gone up.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The quality is SO TERRIBLE now. Recently I saw a 2023 vanity case and the interior leather at the base was glued in only - and wasn’t fit all the way in place. The bottom was LITERALLY COMING OUT OF THE BAG. It had the retail tags on the outside. Just no quality control whatsoever

    • @JillMaurer
      @JillMaurer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KWSHOPS Ugh!

  • @MichellebytheBay
    @MichellebytheBay ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent round up. You gave me some really good parameters for my future purchases. Thank you!

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      That is so great to hear ❤️❤️ please lmk if there are any topics you’d like for me to cover!

  • @Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb
    @Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing your insight. Your hair looks gorgeous today. xoxo

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much! please reach out if you you have any questions or topics you'd like me to cover

    • @Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb
      @Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KWSHOPS I would love to see a video on your thoughts on underrated brands like Chloe and Givenchy and their bags.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lifeisbeautiful-ri2tb got it! I’ll see what I can put together, stay tuned!

  • @gerardoramirez1195
    @gerardoramirez1195 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love my lady Dior but yeah they are horrible with retaining there values. Even the exotics , special editions don’t retain there values. I feel like you have to really love the bag to get it . Honestly going preloved is the way to go with this bag.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Omg yes! The exotics on lady Dior are even worse than the regular lambskins 😕 the resale market does not value exotics almost at all. As a matter of fact, a lot of people don’t like them

    • @gerardoramirez1195
      @gerardoramirez1195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KWSHOPS like the exotics are pretty but like a 10k bag can go down as low as 2k .

    • @Alore_08
      @Alore_08 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gerardoramirez1195Hi, can I ask what resale marketplace have these type of deals?

  • @plusgirlbworld
    @plusgirlbworld ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been watching all your videos from most recent to now and your content is so good. I really enjoy it. I wish you’d make some more? You have some great insight

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s so nice to hear! Was there anything you were curious about that you’d like more info on? I love getting suggestions from you guys ❤️

    • @plusgirlbworld
      @plusgirlbworld ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KWSHOPS wow thanks, I enjoy what you do now I think the advice, maybe industry info but you can talk about anything and it'll be great.

  • @QuangVu-d1e
    @QuangVu-d1e ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a Dior saddle bag the guy version, and I had to agree; it took me a really long time to purchase the bags because of the size and I was going back and forth between LV and Dior and I REALLY LOVED THE SADDLE BAG so I went with it!! So yes people, buy what you love, not because of the brand name!

  • @susanyamini
    @susanyamini ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your video it was very informative and interesting.

  • @sjones4668
    @sjones4668 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are correct about Hermes. Finally got my Hermes and she is so heavy and where am I going to tote a bag that costs that much daily..... She's in the box in the bag on the shelf......

    • @sherrycohen1824
      @sherrycohen1824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly! I can no longer carry a heavy bag because of all the stuff I have to carry (including sometimes my husband's wallet). I try to downsize, but the older you get, the more stuff you need!

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww! I hope you still love your bag! Did you get a 35?

    • @sjones4668
      @sjones4668 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KWSHOPS Kelly 28

  • @oldpalmcity
    @oldpalmcity ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Because of too many scandals related to selling fakes on the secondary market most of people still prefer to buy brand new. Especially popular / classic bags like the Saddle and Lady Dior. I also prefer the new version of the Saddle to the vintage. Vintage in general is not for everyone.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Vintage is def not for everyone! And I think the main reason that some of these bags sit forever in resale is bc of the asking prices!

    • @livelovely4681
      @livelovely4681 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melc4308 No seriously and there is only 1 mint condition vintage bag per 200 people who want a vintage bag. I think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors in the "vintage" bag reselling community.

  • @09269
    @09269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are accurate and sharp!! Great video!

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks so much for watching! Stay tuned for new content and let me know if there's anything you'd like to see!

  • @Seemstobereal
    @Seemstobereal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love my Lady Dior but I agree with all your points ..most impractical beautiful bag 😂..but I never found it preloved in a good condition

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only rule is that you have to love it!

  • @latoyasuperville6686
    @latoyasuperville6686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your POV. Thank you for the video.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for watching! please lmk if there's anything else you'd like to see

  • @heretolearn7694
    @heretolearn7694 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great point - demand vs desire

  • @emmafoley8987
    @emmafoley8987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% about the functionality. I'm here for the jewelry case/handbag trend: it turns out, what I really want is a beautiful tackle box to carry around. I'm getting the La Flore Paris one through kickstarter, but I'm seeing intriguing offerings from other brands.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Functionality will matter when style has become irrelevant !

  • @SONYARenee
    @SONYARenee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was never interested in the Lady Dior, I have no where fancy to be lol. I agree the Goyard tote is way to flimsy for my 5’2 frame. I have three Neverful handbags. One pm , two MMS. One vintage first purchase in 07’, and got refurbished recently looks brand new. I want a Chanel but will only probably purchase a pre-loved one. I’m in Japan so hopefully I can find one within a good price range, if not I will not get. I like to purchase things I am going to use. I started off yrs ago purchasing some LV items TH-camrs recommended, but stopped years ago as well.

  • @reneehampton7665
    @reneehampton7665 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite bag is my Lady Dior even though they don’t hold their value. I did buy mine on the preloved market. I buy my bags to wear, not to resell. I am not really a Chanel girl. It has been well over exploited and over priced. However, I do own the Chanel leather Deauville and a Chain Around Messenger. The flap is very boring to me. Own many LV bags, but the Neverfull has never been my vibe.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im in the same boat. I like different Chanel bags. For me the seasonal bags are where it’s at

  • @makeupnmedicine
    @makeupnmedicine ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was awesome. Great insight. I do not like the lady dior or the saddle!

  • @Cherrysmith2809
    @Cherrysmith2809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was super helpful and interesting! You are so pretty. 🌸 Subbed. Sometimes I think about flowing out some of my least used bags. I do like my mini Jodie. It is a very feminine shape and size while holding a decent amount. Is it a pain to get stuff in and out of it? Kind of. Basically, the bags I would let go of, are the ones you say don’t sell: the tiny ones. And the ones that sell well, are the ones I will never let go of. Well, dang.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello and welcome 🤗
      Check out my previous video where I talk about bags that make money in resale th-cam.com/video/HsmYk2m5U38/w-d-xo.html

  • @oldpalmcity
    @oldpalmcity ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mini Lady Dior in excellent condition hold their value pretty good. You can get a deal only on the vintage or large bags in bad shape.

    • @oldpalmcity
      @oldpalmcity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought my two minis, brand new in 2019-2020 and I paid $3450 for each . Now they retail for $5300. Prices on Fashionphile are close to $5K for a mini in great condition.

    • @oldpalmcity
      @oldpalmcity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, I guess it's a personal thing, but I love the Lady Dior handles , I like the sound they make as well as the charms. You just need to know how to attach the strap/ chain the right way ( on the outer side if the rings) and then the handles won't be flapping apart. They will stay in upright position.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's true I guess what I was more getting at was their popularity / sales don't compare to their popularity. Even at those prices they're likely to sit for a longer time than bags that are even more expensive

    • @oldpalmcity
      @oldpalmcity ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KWSHOPS That's because people can buy brand new just for a little bit more. I love Dior because they don't play "hard to get" games like Hermes or Rolex do. To me Hermes=Rolex. Dior= Cartier. I prefer Dior and Cartier :)

    • @je-suis_Tati
      @je-suis_Tati ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely agree 💯 about why Chanel decided to do that. They want loyalty not resellers and opportunists that just wanted to get the it colors and styles and turn them immediately for a profit. And just wait, I am seeing a lot of changes in other luxury houses that are following, Chanel and Hermes and are increasing prices secretly and surprising ppl. Unfortunately, things are getting worse with many other brands following 😢since you mentioned Goyard St Louis, I am actually considering getting one, what size is more popular you would say? TIA

  • @ChatsWithChris
    @ChatsWithChris ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the 90s you could get Hermes in store at request. It wasn’t exclusive but it was elusive it you knew about them then you knew if you didn’t you had no idea. Social media and sex in the city really are the reason for Hermes glow up.

  • @giedrebey5444
    @giedrebey5444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to find your channel🙏 very informative🙌🙌🙌 did i missed what about vintage Chanel bags ? I know that maybe 6-7 years go, the gold plated classic one was around 3k, but in the recent years, the price really gone up, and what about now? Also what about Chanel 2.55? Thats the bag i want to get next😜 i think i like this style even more than classic CC flap🤔subscribed have a blessed day🙏💗

  • @inez3190
    @inez3190 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!! did I miss it - was there no photo of the chanel gst?

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Chanel GST is definitely one that they buy! it has a good and attainable price point. + the practicality makes it!

  • @suebrewer1649
    @suebrewer1649 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the look of the Lady Dior. But it’s become way too fancy for me. My professional job went WFH during the pandemic and we’re not going back into the office. I’m rarely dressed in even business casual, now.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the LD is like a cross between being too fancy - but also kind of looks like a bag for a child 🤭

  • @MarMarSnatched
    @MarMarSnatched ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i sold my saddle! the bag didnt work for me and when i got it for 3200 all the way back in 2020, the resell value was only 2600!

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Dior never holds its full value. But $2600 is good! That’s about 80% retention 🙂

  • @JacquelineWhittingham
    @JacquelineWhittingham ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent content!

  • @angelasoWA
    @angelasoWA ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I just picked up a beige Cambon Reporter in excellent condition. I love the pockets on this but wonder if it’s too outdated.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t believe in outdated! Wear what you like 🤗

  • @kaylheecarroll3186
    @kaylheecarroll3186 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never been into the goyard tote bags

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      The standard Goyard tote can be very thin and flimsy. If you're looking for Goyard totes check out this video th-cam.com/video/yrxTn260hXU/w-d-xo.html where I compare a bunch of different options outside of the main tote

    • @kaylheecarroll3186
      @kaylheecarroll3186 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KWSHOPS thanks 😊!

  • @shaytoonbala00
    @shaytoonbala00 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! What are your thoughts on the miss dior mini bag from the spring 2023 collection? Is it worth getting it or should I buy the chanel woc instead? Thanks!

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! The mini miss Dior is gorgeous 😍 to me it looks like such a better bag than the Chanel WOC, but I’m biased and am not a woc fan

  • @baharcloset
    @baharcloset ปีที่แล้ว

    should we just hold on a moment and appreciate how gorgeous you are! the video was also really informative and interesting! thank you

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much!! Please lmk if there is anything you'd like to see!

  • @KatherineInToronto
    @KatherineInToronto ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video, i love a woman with a strong pov. IDK why more people are not obsessed with a back pocket. With how often we need to get our phones in and out, a back pocket is a definite feature that can swing me on a bag. Do you have an opinion on feet? I feel like i should care more about them but so many bags i love don't have them so...

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hello to a fellow Katherine!!!
      Thanks so much for your kind feedback. I'm shocked that more people don't have strong opions about usability with back pockets on bags but that's the reality - and I've been wrong before!
      however re: feet on bags- I don't really believe they do what people think they do. ANy bag with feet in the 4 corners will typically have the leather falling over the corners (see Birkins kellys and others) but ithey do make the bags heavier.
      -Overrated feature IMHO

    • @KatherineInToronto
      @KatherineInToronto ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KWSHOPS oh good point about the overhang. hmmm, maybe i can let a few more bags into my consideration set if i let go of the requirement for feet. How exciting ... and somewhat dangerous 😆

  • @amybrando2585
    @amybrando2585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Thanks ❤

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to share! Thanks so much for watching

  • @funplatter5346
    @funplatter5346 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Totally agree with you

  • @littlepepper10
    @littlepepper10 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    chanel trendy cc?

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say that bag can be slightly difficult due to it being made of lamb skin which can be more delicate

  • @susannem3526
    @susannem3526 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Have you ever had any Au Dèpart Paris bags in your shop? Just started following your channel and I must say you are very knowledgeable AND you’re such a beautiful young woman ❤️from Sweden 🇸🇪

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve never heard of this brand!!! I love it. Thanks so much for sharing ❤️

  • @Seemstobereal
    @Seemstobereal ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video ❤

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for watching!!

  • @Gee_J
    @Gee_J ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content 😁

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much ❤️

  • @dickersonr6172
    @dickersonr6172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ysl bag lol. It’s everywhere. But it’s very basic

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The “basic” stuff is what sells 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @balletdancernj6894
    @balletdancernj6894 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the video. 🙂

  • @parishers6351
    @parishers6351 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lady Dior been a no for me.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've never been into it! But the thing everyone knows (but conveniently forgets!) is that they DO NOT HOLD THEIR VALUE!

  • @RR-mv1vr
    @RR-mv1vr ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember buying jumbo Chanel for less that £2000 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky!!!

  • @jaks_bag_attack
    @jaks_bag_attack ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Howdy new sub! I am a preloved person

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WELCOME! Thanks so much for watching. Please lmk if you have any questions or topics you'd like me to cover!

  • @oldpalmcity
    @oldpalmcity ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I don't like totes, period. But Goyard is the ugliest and cheapest looking among all of them. Those plastic-y bags look like $20 totes from the Target, sorry but it's just personal opinion..

    • @parishers6351
      @parishers6351 ปีที่แล้ว

      Goyard is ugly

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally get it ! The canvas- ESPECIALLY the St Louis tote - is super thin. The Goyard I have is a bit thicker but I do agree it's asking a lot for the $$ (still love mine though!!)

    • @anttoronto3202
      @anttoronto3202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree about the Goyard tote. My friend bought one and it started to peel within a month. She is a mature super fussy business woman. She did not abuse it. As for me, yes totes aren’t the prettiest, but my LV Damier Ebene GM was purchased new in 2008 or 9. Used it to death, and still almost brand new.

  • @dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122
    @dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I didn't know botega was slow to sell

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It definitely is! While popular, Bottega still isn’t very mainstream. By nature, anything that’s hot on the market is going to be widely known and recognizable, and of course an accessible price.

  • @dimad645
    @dimad645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I noticed about the bags that don't sell is that they have little unisex appeal. I follow several gay male luxury youtubers, and they don't go for things like lady Dior or saddle. Not very practical. LV speedy? Yes.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting thought! That never occurred to me. I think you’re right also not all women are super girly (I’m certainly not!)

  • @ajohonly3721
    @ajohonly3721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my lady Dior ,because I don’t buy my bags to resale .
    I have no idea what’s up in the second market place .
    Maybe when I’m older and my daughters don’t want my old bags 😀.

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s the right mindset! Never bank on resale, it’s just a way to offset some cost if you fall out of love!
      And re: your daughters in the future, you never know! They may love and obsess it may not be of interest to them down the road. One day we may not even be carrying bags 🤷🏽‍♀️
      Shop for yourself and buy what you like!

    • @ajohonly3721
      @ajohonly3721 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KWSHOPS
      Absolutely 💯🫶🏾🩵

  • @sonnyp7638
    @sonnyp7638 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are Nancy Gonzalez bags selling these days? 😂

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not well!! Unfortunately there is not demand for them on the resale market

  • @traceyreneerivera-fernande6876
    @traceyreneerivera-fernande6876 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Dior Saddle bag is not worth it however the vintage Gaucho bag by Dior is way better...I'm on the hunt for this bag 😊

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Gaucho was on my Look for Less years ago when the Saddle bag first came back in style!

  • @cecil3c
    @cecil3c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love vintage and in have all those bags in fake 😅 i paid 20 dollars For My Fendi Baguette 🥖 i would never pay 1000 or 3000 dollars For that thing

  • @MakeMeFabb
    @MakeMeFabb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing content. I would like to know your opinion about the Louis Vuitton Graceful MM. How is its resale value? Does it get sold quickly? Between the graceful and neverful, which would you recommend? Thank you xx

    • @KWSHOPS
      @KWSHOPS  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great question! The graceful is a great hobo however it has been my experience that over time the canvas can crack along the edge where it bends, so I’d be careful.
      And the nf is one of the most popular bags of all time. Their resale is UNMATCHED! However I would go with the one the complements your style the best