there is like tons of issues with WWE and a lot of the issues is because of Vince and its not even writers or producers fault they have to create storylines and come up with ideas that they think Vince is going to like cause they have no choice but to play to an audience of one and if someone gets themselves over on their own and without the help of the WWE machine Vince will hate it and will end up punishing them since it's not what he wants.
@@fc775 They really don't, they don't pick their gimmicks or names, they don't pick their matches and they don't pick what they say. You get over only if they let you.
I think a cool thing to put on the network could be the unedited interviews that the wrestlers and backstage guys do for all the DVD's they release. An example would be them uploading the full Eric Bishoff Interview where he has the 2002 Raw set in the background. WWE have hundreds of these interviews in their vault.
Saying that the current roster is "frankly, not as ambitious as it was in the attitude era" was an extremely BOLD thing for Vince to say. Many will disagree with that statement, but externally it does seem to be the truth. Most people are happy to be on T.V. and they will do whatever they're told to, however humiliating and degrading it might be.
If you don't do those humiliating things on tv you won't go anywhere. It makes no sense for him to say that because it is clear the wrestlers don't have any say so with their creative direction.
What's most telling is that the lack of ambition seems to be the consistent narrative of the guys from the '90s and early 2000s. Kevin Nash said that it used to be like walking through a shark tank when he was there but, when he came back for the feud with Punk, he said that it was like a bunch of guys waiting to be told what to do and for Vince to anoint them instead of going for their spot. Austin's touched on it himself before the podcast.
B Blackwell But Wrestlers these days just wait to be pushed, they should realise by now that WWE pushes who they want, and if you're not one of them you have to do something different, think outside the box whether it be changing up the mannerisms you use, creating a memorable catchphrases, putting a unique spin on moves when in the ring, adding emphasis on promos and making it seem as if your life depends on it, you want get fired for doing stuff like that.
Even Jericho doesn't argue creative anymore he kinda takes advantage of the system by just doing what he's told Sure before he comes back he negotiates good opponents and programme, but what those programmes consist of? Jericho just goes with the flow. Nobody is trying hard to better themselves. And Vince was wrong, Cena wasn't the last man to grab that brass ring. It was probably Punk & Bryan
Jack Johnson V3 That worked out well for Zack Ryder for about a month then they buried him. The problem is even if you get over the creative don't know how to keep you over. Rybacks first push was killed when they turned him heel for no reason. They strip guys off everything that gets them over. Sandow was good then they took away his robe and Mic and jobbed him out to cena. Wwe inconsistency it's what kills everything.
As far as Cesaro goes, somebody should have put "The Transporter " gimmick on him and let him run wild. A suit, Black BMW, and some burned rubber would have been huge for him. The fact that he is much stronger than guys at least 75 to 100 pounds heavier than him is huge. A rivalry between him and Brock would have been awesome because some that is smaller than Lesnar and probably could over power and out wrestle him. WWE is failing big time with this guy
its funny how Vince says that Cesaro has no charisma or he hasnt devloped his mic skills just becos hes Swiss really? but they will back a person like roman reigns where is mic skills are FAR worse then Cesaro last tyme i checked Cesaro speaks multiple languages and his size & strength is pretty much what the WWE champion looks 4 but they naever gave him a chance vince is blatant racist
When Solomonster talked about Triple H being the Executive Vice President of Talent etc, I couldn't help but hear it in John Laurnitis voice (not sure if I spelt it right.)
+jc47654 solomonster is right when he says having cena start each raw with 25 min cena promo or authrity bad tv. That is right on money. I would rather have cena and hhh off my tv. cena is 15 time world champion he can retired. wwe is decent. wwe raw is better atm. i dvr raw ever week. i skip all cena and hhh promos. If hhh and cena would leave tv. wwe raw would be alot better.
....I was actualy joking about overhearing John Laurnitis declaring himself "the executive vice president of talent relations (and the interm General Manager of Monday Night Raw,)"
DumbPunk That's actually a very good question. Why hire talent that doesn't have talent. I think that "a slap in the face to the guys in the locker room" was an understatement, considering it was said about three (3) times or more. It was more like slap in the face, kick in the nuts and (one of Vince's favorite things to do) pushed in a pool.
tthomaselli2 he was saying Vince was lying through his teeth. Vince said the termination papers being sent on Punks wedding day was unintentional, which was a lie, just like Solomonster owning a bridge
I know I'm a little late to this one, but something was said here that really caught me. According to what was said about Vince and Punk working together again, Vince said there wasn't anyone who could bring Punk back to the table to get them to talk. Austin was brought back to the table by Jim Ross. So why not Paul Heyman for Punk? I have no idea what the relationship is between punk and Heyman now, and I know Heyman is with Brock doing the Goldberg story line, but couldn't he call Punk and set up a meeting with Vince. Punk even said that Triple H called him and wanted to talk and Punk said that he was willing to talk with him after he got back from his honeymoon. I think that shows that maybe Punk would be willing to work things out if a good mediator was in play, and I think that would be Heyman.
Paul Hardie Vince/wwe wants wrestlers to improve, but will punish anyone that tries. I think both statements are true and is probably the reason why it's a complete clusterfuck of a company to work for. Nothing the company does ever makes sense.
i would agree but there has been so many wrestlers that WWE let go that have said that they would come in with their own ideas about their character only to be shot down by WWE writers that know anything about the history of pro wrestling tell them "No". wrestlers being told every idea they had was shot down so they went out on TV with stupid gimmicks that didnt get over and to have people say "none of these guys try to push a buttons"
Mega Lagann Zack Ryder even used the tools Vince McMahon says today's wrestlers have (social media, TH-cam, etc.) to rise to the top only to be punished. They turned him into a full time jobber and has never seen a push again. In a few words, Vince is full of shit.
There's some credence to that theory. After all, he made an effort to created genuine hostility backstage between the former WCW employees and his longterm WWF employees back when he first purchased WCW. He was under the impression that the more genuine heat he could generate between the two groups, the better the potential feud would be.
30:15-30:46.; I didn't want The Undertaker's steak to end & I didn't think that it was ever gonna end, but, after it did, I was as shocked as everybody else. Doug from rvdtito4life, on the other hand said in one of his TH-cam videos afterwards something like "The Undertaker's undefeated streak ending was long over-due & if The Undertaker were to have won against a legitimate bad-ass like Brock Lesnar, it wouldn't have been believable."... I was hoping that The Undertaker would've gone into the WWE Hall-Of-Fame as the first wrestler in history to have had a undefeated streak at 'WrestleMania', but, there's not much more that you can do about that, now, is there?...
Brock Lesnar not appearing on tv as often as fans want him to, especially as champion, isn't only because of contractual negotiations previously made, but McMahon explained that it also had to do with overexposure, which I think played a large role in negotiations into how many appearances they wanted him for. And he referenced Jake the Snake with his python coming out to the ring being less special than it was initially. It's a point that I agree with. Could they do a few vignettes and spread them out throughout the year to keep Brock relevant and people satisfied/entertained? Definitely. You do have a point. Like you mentioned, there are a lot of people bitching about Brock not being on tv enough, especially as champion and it's an argument that I also agree with Vince on. And to me, this is partly why people don't care about the talent/roster. They have guys on every week, sometimes more than once a week, and it loses its appeal. They should cut down their pay-per views from 12-13 down to 6 and instead of throwing a ppv every month, you'd have about a month and a half to two months to build up a fight. The way they have it now, in a few of these ppvs, they have even less than a month to build a storyline to a fight. It becomes forced, and guys are then obligated to show up every week to sell the ppv and it overexposes the talent.
Batman I've been saying that PPV's should get cut down, a long time ago! There's no reason to have a damn PPV once and sometimes twice a month. Storylines don't have time to build and everything is forced
44:00 Jim Ross talked about that stuff even back in 96 on commentator and on Live Wire when he called in. WWF Live Wire /guest: Vince Mcmahon From The Start: th-cam.com/video/D_SaLDT6H3U/w-d-xo.html Time stamp 1) th-cam.com/video/D_SaLDT6H3U/w-d-xo.htmlm46s Time Stamp 2) th-cam.com/video/D_SaLDT6H3U/w-d-xo.htmlm35s Time Stamp 3) Owner of ECW, Paul Heyman calls in th-cam.com/video/D_SaLDT6H3U/w-d-xo.htmlm55s th-cam.com/video/4eA1ZrmdmoA/w-d-xo.html
The whole thing with savage was when he left to WCW he took the Slim Jim contract WWF had at the time with him. That pissed Vince off to no end. Lanny Poffo confirmed this in a interview on youtube. You can look it up yourself. As for the Hall of fame thing also said by Lanny was Macho Man wanted the whole Poffo Family in the HOF. Since he saw that done with the Von Erics. I guess Vince didn't want to do it.
I could have sworn that Vince once called Undertaker by his real name once when they were doing the angle with Vince and Undertaker when he was going after Steph. I seem to remember either Vince or Steph called him Mark during a segment on RAW but I could be wrong. Point being I don't THINK this was the first time he called Undertaker by his name before
And his ex-wife Sara called him Mark a few times on TV when he was doing the Badass gimmick, too. I was more referring to his full name, Calaway included. Even in WWE-produced documentaries, don't recall his full name being used before.
Solomonster Sounds Off Ah okay gotcha Here's another question: What do you think of NJPW opening up its own streaming service? It started a few days ago on December the 1st and according to the Conversion rate for JPY to the US Dollar its actually cheaper than WWE's network where its like $8.40 a month. I saw on one website where someone posted a guide on twitter for fans to be able to go sign up for the network on there and I gotta tell ya that I would be more inclined to get that after WK because to be about to see the G1 for less than $100...yeah I'm totally down with that!
Some of you people should go back and watch Raw episodes from the Attitude Era because outside Austin, Rock, Undertaker and DX, the entire roster was garbage in the ring. If that roster was given PG era scripts to read, the shows would be infinitely worse than they are today. As hard as that may be to believe...
Thank you vince for giving me the final reason I needed to never and I do mean never again buy the wwe network again even for a non commitment subscription.
vincentrich There you go throwing around previously used epithets again (fan-boy). The fact of the matter is I have bought the network twice this year. I bought it in May and I had to unfortunately pay for it in November when it was free. I liked portions of it, especially some of the regular ECW shows they had and watching Heatwave 99 was cool because of the barbwire spot tazz and tajiri did. Why should anyone buy the network when the person that owns the damn company shits on his own talent? How is Zack Ryder, a guy that worked to get himself over with nothing but himself, a camera, and youtube, a lazy millennial? if you chose to continue to support the network by all means continue. I think I will take my chances on the New Japan Pro Network instead.
That one part where Vince said that the WWE has over 30 writers now. Austin should've fired back and asked 'how many of those writers know about professional wrestling and how it works' almost immediately. Doesn't anyone else agree? As for Solo's comments on Cena, yes. I agree with him. People want him gone, yet they still keep talking about him every chance they get. How much sense does that make?
Lwiis64 Oh right, I forgot. Oops. I don't know what was more ridiculous, him correcting Austin constantly or the stuff he said about Cesaro OR how he pretty much dumped all over the roster.
You know, Austin missed the boat to fire back at Vince too. "The last time I checked, there's a squared circle. You have titles to fight for. You have men in tights. You have timekeepers, referees, ring announcers, etc. No matter how hard you try to deny it, Vince, it's still pro-wrestling." I wish he had done that.
I never took those Savage/Stephanie underage sex rumours as meaning when she was a child, surely people mean before she was 18 and thus legal. She would have been 18 the same year he left (and note that it's not like Vince found out and fired him, he clearly didn't know) so I guess it could have been any time but I always thought of it as her at 17 or something, I think I've even heard that age mentioned in the rumour. From my understanding of American law (I imagine it varies) that would still be classed as underage sex, whereas in the UK it wouldn't, but if that's the case then it doesn't make sense to say he's a paedophile. No matter how severe a crime that would be, I think it's completely absurd to putting it in the same category as having sex with a child which I don't think anybodyd suspects him of. Randy alluded to it to get heat from Triple H in his website promo remember, I can't imagine he'd do that if he'd had sex with her as a child.
soabcnsk2012 if that Mark Henry Hands storyline happened today everyone that was laughing at it years ago, would be shitting on it now just because it’s taking place in 2018
Ruthless Aggression era would have never came about, if it wasn't for attitude era. Soabcnsk 2012 I agree with you about the main event scene 200% Great characters all the way around and from top to bottom. As a matter of fact, would The Rock be considered the last actual character per say? After The Rock left everyone else was coming in with a first name and last name. No characters what so ever right??? Or help me understand if i missed something.
There's two sides to every story. The honest side... and then there's the bullshite political spin of a man who is out of touch with the times, his wrestlers, and his audience, trying to repair the broken reputation of his petty company. Vince's comments about Cesaro say it all. It's so obvious Cesaro would have been over as a babyface wtih the Cesaro Swing. Vince and the WWE get it wrong so often. From Fang McFrost to babyface Batista coming back to headline Wrestlemania while Daniel Bryan wrestles Sheamus on the mid-card. Thank you CM Punk, for everything. You would think the future of the WWE would be bright with Zayn, KENTA, Steen, and Devitt, but I have no faith that Vince and the WWE will know what to do with them. Take a risk, get yourself over, go for that brass ring, but don't piss anyone off. Who knows, you could become the next Zack Ryder.
Brandon Dove The WWE's TV ratings have dropped almost 50% in the last decade. Vince promised the board and investors he would get a new TV deal that would double their money. After all the networks passed he was forced to resign the old deal with egg on his face. The WWE Network is failing miserably to reach it's goal of 1 mil subscribers and live up to expectations. They can't afford to pay Brock, their champion, to show up more than 4 times a year. Vince can spin special attraction, but they just can't afford him. The roster is as main event thin as it's ever been because according to Vince the roster lacks ambition(aka Vince only cares about Cena). Losing CM Punk hurt them. That's why Vince wants him back after everything that's happened. Sure some people will continue to watch and pay, but the WWE is in decline, and that's not winning to me.
RockyMountainTarheel the company always wins. Just omg hogan left now what, Shawn took his ball an went home, stone cold walked out, an the rock left for Hollywood. The next star replaces the old one an yes ratings are down since the attitude era but they make way more now in sponsorships now. Which is why Vince holds the record for most times becoming a billionaire
I dont see why people are so upset about Vince's comments on Cesaro. Cesaro is a magnificent athlete and in the ring he could do things that not many people can do. People got over his giant swing and uppercut. But you've to be either naive or new to the wrestling industry thinking that such talents are enough to be a top player in WWE. We've had Mysterio, Kofi Kingston, Benjamin, Piper, Ted DiBiase and etc who were all talented in either in-ring work or acting chops but not BOTH. These guys weren't regarded as the top guys because they are lacking something intangible. Thats where Cesaro falls in. When you look at guys like say...Jericho and Angle. They are both very good wrestlers, they are entertaining and easy to get behind and against with. Thats what gets you to the top. Cesaro could have been booked better but saying that he should be among the top is just a little too far-fetched.
+metamofia I agree with you 100 percent. The guy is just too vanilla. There is no time that I've ever watched him, and thought this guy is a superstar. He is a great wrestler, but you can't build a company around him.
If they can put a title on someone like Jeff Hardy who had terrible mic skills but made up for it with his in ring stunts, you can put the title on someone like Cesaro
Why in the Fuck dose NO ONE absolutely No one bring up that video that Randy posted up around 2002 - 2004 where he says something like "hay hunter im gonna slap you up and take your bitch" I.E. Stephanie McMahon and he said some other shit about her and triple h too its like everyone forgot about that or just passes that by
Plenty of people bring it up and remember it. He said he was gonna "take your girl around the block" or something to that effect. If you're referring to interviewers specifically, why don't they mention it to Hunter, Steph, or Vince... that's different. But Solomonster himself has mentioned that before.
Sad that someone that has so much skill as Dolph Ziggler doesn't get a mention. I would have loved to have seen a Ziggler / Michaels feud. Epic matches every night.
vanilla midget? he has a better collegiate wrestling record than Brock fucking Lesnar. hes 6 foot which is taller than average and is fucking shredded. if you dont like a guy, thats all well and good, but dont talk out your fucking arse.
I'm sorry I've only just this video and your channel. I remember seeing Cesaro back in 2006ish at a very small indie show in England and having a discussion with a friend of mine and saying that he is going to make it in WWE. I totally agree that it seems like Vince Mcmahon screwed up on him big time. He will never be a main event guy now. Unless he goes somewhere else.
I'm pretty sure the reason why VKM got an army of writers instead of doing what they used to would have to do with the WWE being a publicly-traded company. I could imagine the amount of credibility and persuasiveness that is required of Vince to answer to the stakeholders, and sometimes big companies like the WWE would required fancy stuff like "writers from Hollywood, blah blah" to get these shallow stakeholders on board.
I agree 100% with solomonster on every point he has made in his last two videos. This guy has such a knowledge for pro wrestling to the point where I wouldn't mind him working for the company itself. Nothing but story lines the fans want to see
I listen to The Solomonster and Don Tony and Kevin Show for 3-4 years combined mostly DT&KC BUT WATCHING YOUR TH-cam I HAVE SAID FOR YEARS I BELIEVE THE ANONYMOUS RAW GM YEARS AGO WAS RANDY SAVAGE HES BIG RETURN RUNNING THINGS LIKE MANIC IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT I HAVE THOUGHT THIS FOR YEARS THEN UNFORTUNATELY AFTER THE MADNESS PASSED AWAY THEY GAVE IT TO FUCKING HORNSWAGGLE to just end it. Randy savage agent said at THe time the year he died he had a big year coming RIP RANDY SAVAGE SORRY FOR NO PUNCTUATIONS
+Cole Cash yea then he started to get pushed to the moon at the wrong time plus he was so protected to where he had to get busted for violating the policy to get beaten clean for the first time ever. he got stale
This interview proved how out of touch Vince is.. Even though an outsider doesn't truly know Vince, by watching the interview you can understand the complaints ppl had who've worked with him in the past. Being dismissive, single minded and out of touch with reality.. You can't get ppl to like your product if you crap on your roster by saying how lack luster they are.. But one can imagine why they don't ask questions or go outside of the box. Its because the creative team stiffles any ideas but they're own and you have this weird, bully, bipolar work environment that incentivize people not to ask questions and go with the flow no matter how bad the idea is.. That's why people like Austin, and Punk left. Because they saw through the administrative b.s. McMahon says he wants the talent to be sharks and vocal but he fires the people who are vocal (see Jim Ross.). Then on top of that, he's a shady businessman which leaves more bad blood with ex talent.
I agree about the 25 minute promos. Triple H is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time but starting every raw with him ranting has ran its course. really im tired of the heel owner. i want the main feuds to be wrestler vs wrestler not wrestler vs owner.
"Maybe it's his verbal skills, maybe it's because he's Swiss, maybe it's because I'm a mark for what I see on TV because I'm so out of touch I can't see how badly I'm making my own talent look week to week? Maybe it's the fact that I made him as stereotypically European as possible? Maybe it's because I personally don't like foreigners & accents? Maybe it's because of the fucking yodelling? How should I know? I just own this man's whole career"
Gorgeous George then girlfriend of macho man said that savage wanted to have a 3some with her17 year old younger sister. so that Stephanie McMahon rumor might be true, but I doubt he went all the way probally wanted to but didn't succeed.
Preach solomonater if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem if fans are sick of seeing cena we'll show it don't buy his crap merchandise instead of voicing you're opinion on TH-cam do something about it !
It was cool to find out we were born the same year, it's nice to listen to a reviewer who has a similar timeline as it were. The Rock N' Wrestling angle, the Jimmy Snuka Piper's Pit coconut segment etc...Jake Robert's cobra drawing blood from Macho Man's bicep and refusing to let go. I grew up in LI as well and briefly attended Hofstra. We could've been hangin! CAAABLE GUUUUY!! :)
Hate how easily Vince can sell the story right under people's noses. I like Austin, but it's obvious that his character, written as well as "The Rattlesnake", "Stone Cold" was, he was a lot more perceptive and sharp-eyed than he really is. That's the biggest shame, I thought that was his, I didn't think it was part of the show. One thing about CM Punk, nowhere near as entertaining, funny or badass as Austin, BUT, he's far smarter. Given the same bullshit Vince is throwing here, Punk would be able to cut through it like a knife. The only redeeming thing is that Austin is on "The Network" (nana-nana-nana-Leader/ Yvan et nioj/ cult-talk). Maybe he felt he couldn't be straight. But then that basically fucks up the whole point of Stone Cold's podcast and makes it a bit of a waste of time. Anyway Vince, you are out of touch with the fans, though I know you're answering that question thinking of little kids, the brats don't drive, and you've decimated your adult viewership pursuing cheesy boring toddler-humour. People wanted CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, now Ziggler, Rusev and Cesaro, yet you continue to send out Cena, Ryback, Batista, HHH. Boring. Boring boring boring. AND, a whole EXTRA HOUR! Of boring. Oh, but bluh bluh bluh, fluster fluster, you're in touch with your fans. Yet they boo Cena every single week. They've NEVER accepted him. And, if there are MULTIPLE main events, then surely putting Punk at the end of the show makes no difference, seeing as there are MULTIPLE main events, what difference does that main event have to the others? Why not put the guy in there? Just for shits and giggles.
Ryback is king, the greatest 'reslter of all times. Better than Dean Malenko, and more charisma than SCSA. Ryback is the best. If you disagree you aren't a real fan. Ryback vs, The Z Man, dream match WM32.
I come back to this years later, and Solomonster himself mentions Roman being the guy to end Undertaker's streak. They ended up having Roman retire the man a few years later anyway, so while I liked Brock ending the streak, how did Vince not think Roman was the guy to do it in the first place? He was "their guy" already at that point, just before his mega push.
I think Vince just heard the term "millennials" a week ago and he found it catchy so he used it. It was such a lame, half-hearted attempt to scapegoat an entire generation of wrestlers.
Hating Cena is now a fad. If people really hated him, they wouldn't buy his shit. Unfortunately, people who really hate Cena are a very small minority. But the kids and the women over weighs that minority. Cena sells.
I love the idea of multiple podcasts like this over the year. Stagger them around, so you have a big ppv, a NXT special and a podcast interview per quarter, so every month there's something must watch on the network. Not that I have the network, being in the UK, but that's a different gripe.
they wouldn't be pointless if those people were actually getting pushed. there's so much more room now to make so many more people, but no, they stick with 3 people getting pushed.
The comment by Vince that there was no one that could have bridged the gap with CM Punk and WWE is a LIE! What about uh um maybe PAUL HEYMAN? Does Paul not currently work for WWE, and is he not a close friend of CM Punk? What about John Cena? Yea maybe they don't exactly like each other but they had a working relationship and respect was built up. If they really wanted to make Cena look like a hero for once, why not have him stick his neck out for Punk again when he was in need of help in making sense of things? Cena is the perfect foil for punk but also could have been a friend when he needed one most. Fact is HHH acted like a jealous boob and felt that Punk was a threat to his own legacy which I don't see how that is even possible...HHH has already cemented his legacy and should have been happy with that and he needs to move on. It is pathetic that they let such an asset go this way and think that was going to be okay.
Epic TrololoGuy And the fact that HHH let that happen to Punk makes me laugh when he talks about how he bridged the gap between Warrior and WWE. I guess it's easier to bridge the gap to Vince's grudges when there's lots of money and touching moments to be had, but not so much when it's his own.
The creative process has to do with distributors and and stuff because of the times we live in. I've long said that it's not so much WWE'S desire to sanitize and dial down everything, it's the network and sponsors they have deals with. Don't get me wrong, I blame Vince for that because every time they sign one of these deals, especially their television rights deal, they're basically selling out more to the devil in terms of what they can or cannot do. I especiall think this was the case over the summer with thr latrest TV deal. NBC knee Vince shot himself in the foot by overhyping the network and knew they could take him to the cleaners not only on money. But promotions and content. When you get on Wall streets shit list, companies like that have you by the balls and they know it. You think Vince came up with the idea to have todd chrisley on RAW? Hell no! They want to do movies, the company says ok, but you're going to use your international tv show to promote. And then you factor in the fear of bad PR WWE has been peeing their pants over since Benoit, and WOAHLAH!
Its funny how people want to bury Roman Reigns for having no charisma, when Cesaro is the exact same way, if not worse. His acting is shit, his talking is shit. He's a great wrestler no doubt, but so was Dean Malenko and he was mostly a lower midcard to upper midcard guy almost his whole run.
Monster hit it on the head. Corporate sponsor, they have screwed it up in wrestling and in life. The mom and pop shops are gone and now we pay up the nose all in the name of corporate sponsor Go to a ball game and take your kid or kids and see you spend a couple of hundred bucks and many of us cannot afford.
Agreed. I mean, the guy ended the fucking STREAK. No matter who likes it or loathes it, bottom line is it happened. No Mulligans. Gotta build off it. Best way to keep Brock hot was by absolutely destroying Cena at SummerSlam. Should've done the same at Night of Champions, OR keep the finish they went with, but then have the blowoff match inside Hell in a Cell in October. So, by the Rumble, Brock's got a fresh opponent. A face Cesaro, a face Orton, Sheamus, Ziggler, someone NOT named John Cena. And they give Brock a fight, nut ultimately Brock wins heading into WrestleMania. And that's where he's supposedly gonna drop the title most likely to Roman Reigns. His last date on his current contract as far as we know, or unless he re-signs, is the night after 'Mania. I say, fuck it, sign him up for another year, keep the title on him and have him drop it at 'Mania 32 or even SummerSlam next year. WrestleMania still feels too soon for him to lose especially after ending the Streak and making Cena his bitch. Feels like a waste of the Streak if the dude who ended it is beaten the following year, and leaves the company.
I liked how he blamed the wrestlers for not getting themselves over. Like they have control!!
the last person to get themselves over was zach ryder, and look what they did to him now
there is like tons of issues with WWE and a lot of the issues is because of Vince and its not even writers or producers fault they have to create storylines and come up with ideas that they think Vince is going to like cause they have no choice but to play to an audience of one and if someone gets themselves over on their own and without the help of the WWE machine Vince will hate it and will end up punishing them since it's not what he wants.
@@fc775 They really don't, they don't pick their gimmicks or names, they don't pick their matches and they don't pick what they say. You get over only if they let you.
I think a cool thing to put on the network could be the unedited interviews that the wrestlers and backstage guys do for all the DVD's they release.
An example would be them uploading the full Eric Bishoff Interview where he has the 2002 Raw set in the background.
WWE have hundreds of these interviews in their vault.
I feel like that's the only time Eric was interviewed and it must have went on for hours
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And there is one where he is on a sofa that's in a Rey Mysterio DVD.
FullConcerts100 that's a great idea
"The territories screwed the territories."
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+Jeremy Shorter LMAO
Saying that the current roster is "frankly, not as ambitious as it was in the attitude era" was an extremely BOLD thing for Vince to say. Many will disagree with that statement, but externally it does seem to be the truth. Most people are happy to be on T.V. and they will do whatever they're told to, however humiliating and degrading it might be.
If you don't do those humiliating things on tv you won't go anywhere. It makes no sense for him to say that because it is clear the wrestlers don't have any say so with their creative direction.
What's most telling is that the lack of ambition seems to be the consistent narrative of the guys from the '90s and early 2000s. Kevin Nash said that it used to be like walking through a shark tank when he was there but, when he came back for the feud with Punk, he said that it was like a bunch of guys waiting to be told what to do and for Vince to anoint them instead of going for their spot. Austin's touched on it himself before the podcast.
B Blackwell But Wrestlers these days just wait to be pushed, they should realise by now that WWE pushes who they want, and if you're not one of them you have to do something different, think outside the box whether it be changing up the mannerisms you use, creating a memorable catchphrases, putting a unique spin on moves when in the ring, adding emphasis on promos and making it seem as if your life depends on it, you want get fired for doing stuff like that.
Even Jericho doesn't argue creative anymore he kinda takes advantage of the system by just doing what he's told
Sure before he comes back he negotiates good opponents and programme, but what those programmes consist of? Jericho just goes with the flow. Nobody is trying hard to better themselves. And Vince was wrong, Cena wasn't the last man to grab that brass ring. It was probably Punk & Bryan
Jack Johnson V3 That worked out well for Zack Ryder for about a month then they buried him. The problem is even if you get over the creative don't know how to keep you over. Rybacks first push was killed when they turned him heel for no reason. They strip guys off everything that gets them over. Sandow was good then they took away his robe and Mic and jobbed him out to cena. Wwe inconsistency it's what kills everything.
Solomon you are on FIRE, you have done so much the last week, thanks for another sound off!
As far as Cesaro goes, somebody should have put "The Transporter " gimmick on him and let him run wild. A suit, Black BMW, and some burned rubber would have been huge for him.
The fact that he is much stronger than guys at least 75 to 100 pounds heavier than him is huge. A rivalry between him and Brock would have been awesome because some that is smaller than Lesnar and probably could over power and out wrestle him.
WWE is failing big time with this guy
Um.....no? Cesaro doesnt need a jason transporter you dummy
He’s not out wrestling Brock he’s a literal ncaa and ufc champion and I’d bet a hefty amount of money Brock is stronger too
@@highhaloguy806 You replied to a damn near 10 year old comment
Keep up the good work Solomonster! 👍 love your podcast
Couldn't believe Vince buried his locker room like that.
its funny how Vince says that Cesaro has no charisma or he hasnt devloped his mic skills just becos hes Swiss really? but they will back a person like roman reigns where is mic skills are FAR worse then Cesaro last tyme i checked Cesaro speaks multiple languages and his size & strength is pretty much what the WWE champion looks 4 but they naever gave him a chance vince is blatant racist
6 years ago anniversary!
"Exactly what they need to bring in more subscribers."
WWE promptly removes the SC podcast & Legends with JBL.
Anyone here think that Vince is just as delusional, if not more, than Dixie Carter?
I still think he's an idiot for most of the stuff he's approved of over the past decade or so.
When Solomonster talked about Triple H being the Executive Vice President of Talent etc, I couldn't help but hear it in John Laurnitis voice (not sure if I spelt it right.)
+jc47654 solomonster is right when he says having cena start each raw with 25 min cena promo or authrity bad tv. That is right on money. I would rather have cena and hhh off my tv. cena is 15 time world champion he can retired. wwe is decent. wwe raw is better atm. i dvr raw ever week. i skip all cena and hhh promos. If hhh and cena would leave tv. wwe raw would be alot better.
....I was actualy joking about overhearing John Laurnitis declaring himself "the executive vice president of talent relations (and the interm General Manager of Monday Night Raw,)"
If these guys have no ambition then why the fuck did you hire them?
DumbPunk That's actually a very good question. Why hire talent that doesn't have talent. I think that "a slap in the face to the guys in the locker room" was an understatement, considering it was said about three (3) times or more. It was more like slap in the face, kick in the nuts and (one of Vince's favorite things to do) pushed in a pool.
DumbPunk
25:25-25:30.; What did The Solomonster mean by "I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I'm selling on Craigslist."?
tthomaselli2 he was saying Vince was lying through his teeth. Vince said the termination papers being sent on Punks wedding day was unintentional, which was a lie, just like Solomonster owning a bridge
I know I'm a little late to this one, but something was said here that really caught me. According to what was said about Vince and Punk working together again, Vince said there wasn't anyone who could bring Punk back to the table to get them to talk. Austin was brought back to the table by Jim Ross. So why not Paul Heyman for Punk? I have no idea what the relationship is between punk and Heyman now, and I know Heyman is with Brock doing the Goldberg story line, but couldn't he call Punk and set up a meeting with Vince. Punk even said that Triple H called him and wanted to talk and Punk said that he was willing to talk with him after he got back from his honeymoon. I think that shows that maybe Punk would be willing to work things out if a good mediator was in play, and I think that would be Heyman.
In my opinion, this showed & proved how out of touch Vince McMahon really is...
Then, again, I'm not too surprised.
Great insight as always Solomonster. Great video.
vince is out of touch, FINISH IT.
I think Vince purposely wanted to take a shot at the current roster to hopefully ignite a positive response.
Well of course, I mean look at Zack Ryder!
....
oh.
Paul Hardie Vince/wwe wants wrestlers to improve, but will punish anyone that tries.
I think both statements are true and is probably the reason why it's a complete clusterfuck of a company to work for.
Nothing the company does ever makes sense.
i would agree but there has been so many wrestlers that WWE let go that have said that they would come in with their own ideas about their character only to be shot down by WWE writers that know anything about the history of pro wrestling tell them "No". wrestlers being told every idea they had was shot down so they went out on TV with stupid gimmicks that didnt get over and to have people say "none of these guys try to push a buttons"
Mega Lagann Zack Ryder even used the tools Vince McMahon says today's wrestlers have (social media, TH-cam, etc.) to rise to the top only to be punished. They turned him into a full time jobber and has never seen a push again. In a few words, Vince is full of shit.
There's some credence to that theory. After all, he made an effort to created genuine hostility backstage between the former WCW employees and his longterm WWF employees back when he first purchased WCW. He was under the impression that the more genuine heat he could generate between the two groups, the better the potential feud would be.
Great video
CESARO IN 2021... Wow Vince, WWE, SMFH!
30:15-30:46.; I didn't want The Undertaker's steak to end & I didn't think that it was ever gonna end, but, after it did, I was as shocked as everybody else.
Doug from rvdtito4life, on the other hand said in one of his TH-cam videos afterwards something like "The Undertaker's undefeated streak ending was long over-due & if The Undertaker were to have won against a legitimate bad-ass like Brock Lesnar, it wouldn't have been believable."... I was hoping that The Undertaker would've gone into the WWE Hall-Of-Fame as the first wrestler in history to have had a undefeated streak at 'WrestleMania', but, there's not much more that you can do about that, now, is there?...
25:10 An 800 lb elephant is pretty small...perhaps you meant "gorilla", Solomonster?
CM Punk: APOLOGIZE, VINCE!
Vince Mcmahon: I APOLOGIZE, YOU SON OF A BITCH!
What are you talking about Solomonster? Mad TV was funny
Brock Lesnar not appearing on tv as often as fans want him to, especially as champion, isn't only because of contractual negotiations previously made, but McMahon explained that it also had to do with overexposure, which I think played a large role in negotiations into how many appearances they wanted him for. And he referenced Jake the Snake with his python coming out to the ring being less special than it was initially. It's a point that I agree with.
Could they do a few vignettes and spread them out throughout the year to keep Brock relevant and people satisfied/entertained? Definitely. You do have a point. Like you mentioned, there are a lot of people bitching about Brock not being on tv enough, especially as champion and it's an argument that I also agree with Vince on.
And to me, this is partly why people don't care about the talent/roster. They have guys on every week, sometimes more than once a week, and it loses its appeal. They should cut down their pay-per views from 12-13 down to 6 and instead of throwing a ppv every month, you'd have about a month and a half to two months to build up a fight. The way they have it now, in a few of these ppvs, they have even less than a month to build a storyline to a fight. It becomes forced, and guys are then obligated to show up every week to sell the ppv and it overexposes the talent.
Batman I've been saying that PPV's should get cut down, a long time ago! There's no reason to have a damn PPV once and sometimes twice a month. Storylines don't have time to build and everything is forced
I would love a roundtable with Solomonster Sounds Off ***** OTRSCentral Bruce Blitz
Add Aubrey Sitterson Chris Jericho Colt Cabana and Jim Ross to the roundtable I'd pay money instantly.
Yeah that would be awasome!
Sorry Vince, but I'm a WRESTLING fan.
I really do want to shoot "Beverly's hunting Brock" vignettes.
Especially if she carries a hunting knife and speaks like Elmer Fudd, because that'd actually be funny unlike most of their humor nowadays.
44:00 Jim Ross talked about that stuff even back in 96 on commentator and on Live Wire when he called in.
WWF Live Wire /guest: Vince Mcmahon
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The whole thing with savage was when he left to WCW he took the Slim Jim contract WWF had at the time with him. That pissed Vince off to no end. Lanny Poffo confirmed this in a interview on youtube. You can look it up yourself.
As for the Hall of fame thing also said by Lanny was Macho Man wanted the whole Poffo Family in the HOF. Since he saw that done with the Von Erics. I guess Vince didn't want to do it.
yess
I could have sworn that Vince once called Undertaker by his real name once when they were doing the angle with Vince and Undertaker when he was going after Steph. I seem to remember either Vince or Steph called him Mark during a segment on RAW but I could be wrong. Point being I don't THINK this was the first time he called Undertaker by his name before
And his ex-wife Sara called him Mark a few times on TV when he was doing the Badass gimmick, too. I was more referring to his full name, Calaway included. Even in WWE-produced documentaries, don't recall his full name being used before.
Solomonster Sounds Off Ah okay gotcha
Here's another question: What do you think of NJPW opening up its own streaming service? It started a few days ago on December the 1st and according to the Conversion rate for JPY to the US Dollar its actually cheaper than WWE's network where its like $8.40 a month. I saw on one website where someone posted a guide on twitter for fans to be able to go sign up for the network on there and I gotta tell ya that I would be more inclined to get that after WK because to be about to see the G1 for less than $100...yeah I'm totally down with that!
***** FUCK U ALLLL!!
Joshua Curtis I know Ken Shamrock called him Mark twice on a promo
Wow another sound off? You're on fire! Love the show.
my thoughts too :)
am on the network for the old stuff!!! and NXT of course.
Cool review Jason
the moment vince made the swizz comment i was like damn... well there goes anyone thats not white american ever being the face of the company
Awesome. 6 videos a week. I like!
Some of you people should go back and watch Raw episodes from the Attitude Era because outside Austin, Rock, Undertaker and DX, the entire roster was garbage in the ring. If that roster was given PG era scripts to read, the shows would be infinitely worse than they are today. As hard as that may be to believe...
If what WWE does is not wrestling then why is the company named World Wrestling Entertainment? Why not call it World Sports Entertainment
Thank you vince for giving me the final reason I needed to never and I do mean never again buy the wwe network again even for a non commitment subscription.
vincentrich There you go throwing around previously used epithets again (fan-boy). The fact of the matter is I have bought the network twice this year. I bought it in May and I had to unfortunately pay for it in November when it was free. I liked portions of it, especially some of the regular ECW shows they had and watching Heatwave 99 was cool because of the barbwire spot tazz and tajiri did. Why should anyone buy the network when the person that owns the damn company shits on his own talent? How is Zack Ryder, a guy that worked to get himself over with nothing but himself, a camera, and youtube, a lazy millennial? if you chose to continue to support the network by all means continue. I think I will take my chances on the New Japan Pro Network instead.
That one part where Vince said that the WWE has over 30 writers now. Austin should've fired back and asked 'how many of those writers know about professional wrestling and how it works' almost immediately. Doesn't anyone else agree?
As for Solo's comments on Cena, yes. I agree with him. People want him gone, yet they still keep talking about him every chance they get. How much sense does that make?
I am pretty sure Vince's stupid-ass answer to that would have been "this is not pro-wrestling, it's sports entertainment".
Lwiis64 Oh right, I forgot. Oops.
I don't know what was more ridiculous, him correcting Austin constantly or the stuff he said about Cesaro OR how he pretty much dumped all over the roster.
***** True. I know this has been said over and over but it is the truth. Vince is out of touch and he shows how much he is in this interview.
You know, Austin missed the boat to fire back at Vince too.
"The last time I checked, there's a squared circle. You have titles to fight for. You have men in tights. You have timekeepers, referees, ring announcers, etc. No matter how hard you try to deny it, Vince, it's still pro-wrestling."
I wish he had done that.
***** Yeah, but I didn't expected Austin to push Vince too far. He pushed him farther than I expected, to be honest.
I never took those Savage/Stephanie underage sex rumours as meaning when she was a child, surely people mean before she was 18 and thus legal. She would have been 18 the same year he left (and note that it's not like Vince found out and fired him, he clearly didn't know) so I guess it could have been any time but I always thought of it as her at 17 or something, I think I've even heard that age mentioned in the rumour.
From my understanding of American law (I imagine it varies) that would still be classed as underage sex, whereas in the UK it wouldn't, but if that's the case then it doesn't make sense to say he's a paedophile. No matter how severe a crime that would be, I think it's completely absurd to putting it in the same category as having sex with a child which I don't think anybodyd suspects him of.
Randy alluded to it to get heat from Triple H in his website promo remember, I can't imagine he'd do that if he'd had sex with her as a child.
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RiC David in USA age of consent for sex varies by state. Some are 18 and some are younger.
I always thought the Attitude era was kinda overrated af
Maxzu 1 agree, I personally think The Ruthless Aggression Era was better
soabcnsk2012 if that Mark Henry Hands storyline happened today everyone that was laughing at it years ago, would be shitting on it now just because it’s taking place in 2018
Ruthless Aggression era would have never came about, if it wasn't for attitude era. Soabcnsk 2012 I agree with you about the main event scene 200% Great characters all the way around and from top to bottom. As a matter of fact, would The Rock be considered the last actual character per say? After The Rock left everyone else was coming in with a first name and last name. No characters what so ever right??? Or help me understand if i missed something.
28:20 Funny how time works.... He eventually came back But not because of vince.
There's two sides to every story. The honest side... and then there's the bullshite political spin of a man who is out of touch with the times, his wrestlers, and his audience, trying to repair the broken reputation of his petty company. Vince's comments about Cesaro say it all. It's so obvious Cesaro would have been over as a babyface wtih the Cesaro Swing. Vince and the WWE get it wrong so often. From Fang McFrost to babyface Batista coming back to headline Wrestlemania while Daniel Bryan wrestles Sheamus on the mid-card. Thank you CM Punk, for everything. You would think the future of the WWE would be bright with Zayn, KENTA, Steen, and Devitt, but I have no faith that Vince and the WWE will know what to do with them. Take a risk, get yourself over, go for that brass ring, but don't piss anyone off. Who knows, you could become the next Zack Ryder.
Yet people will still watch, pay for tickets to see live events, an buy merch so he is technically winning still
Brandon Dove The WWE's TV ratings have dropped almost 50% in the last decade. Vince promised the board and investors he would get a new TV deal that would double their money. After all the networks passed
he was forced to resign the old deal with egg on his face. The WWE Network is failing miserably to reach it's goal of 1 mil subscribers and live up to expectations. They can't afford to pay Brock, their champion, to show up more than 4 times a year. Vince can spin special attraction, but they just can't afford him. The roster is as main event thin as it's ever been because according to Vince the roster lacks ambition(aka Vince only cares about Cena). Losing CM Punk hurt them. That's why Vince wants him back after everything that's happened. Sure some people will continue to watch and pay, but the WWE is in decline, and that's not winning to me.
RockyMountainTarheel the company always wins. Just omg hogan left now what, Shawn took his ball an went home, stone cold walked out, an the rock left for Hollywood. The next star replaces the old one an yes ratings are down since the attitude era but they make way more now in sponsorships now. Which is why Vince holds the record for most times becoming a billionaire
I was born 1979 so I not a lazy ass woohooooo
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
When did Steve ask Vince about shane?
Hey Solomonster Triple H was mentioned by Vince once during the podcast he called him paul
I dont see why people are so upset about Vince's comments on Cesaro. Cesaro is a magnificent athlete and in the ring he could do things that not many people can do. People got over his giant swing and uppercut. But you've to be either naive or new to the wrestling industry thinking that such talents are enough to be a top player in WWE. We've had Mysterio, Kofi Kingston, Benjamin, Piper, Ted DiBiase and etc who were all talented in either in-ring work or acting chops but not BOTH. These guys weren't regarded as the top guys because they are lacking something intangible.
Thats where Cesaro falls in. When you look at guys like say...Jericho and Angle. They are both very good wrestlers, they are entertaining and easy to get behind and against with. Thats what gets you to the top. Cesaro could have been booked better but saying that he should be among the top is just a little too far-fetched.
+metamofia I agree with you 100 percent. The guy is just too vanilla. There is no time that I've ever watched him, and
thought this guy is a superstar. He is a great wrestler, but you can't build a company around him.
If they can put a title on someone like Jeff Hardy who had terrible mic skills but made up for it with his in ring stunts, you can put the title on someone like Cesaro
Why in the Fuck dose NO ONE absolutely No one bring up that video that Randy posted up around 2002 - 2004 where he says something like "hay hunter im gonna slap you up and take your bitch" I.E. Stephanie McMahon and he said some other shit about her and triple h too its like everyone forgot about that or just passes that by
Plenty of people bring it up and remember it. He said he was gonna "take your girl around the block" or something to that effect. If you're referring to interviewers specifically, why don't they mention it to Hunter, Steph, or Vince... that's different. But Solomonster himself has mentioned that before.
Sad that someone that has so much skill as Dolph Ziggler doesn't get a mention. I would have loved to have seen a Ziggler / Michaels feud. Epic matches every night.
vanilla midget? he has a better collegiate wrestling record than Brock fucking Lesnar. hes 6 foot which is taller than average and is fucking shredded. if you dont like a guy, thats all well and good, but dont talk out your fucking arse.
EXACTLYYY this is why solomonster is legend. like his response on the cena stuff too
I'm sorry I've only just this video and your channel. I remember seeing Cesaro back in 2006ish at a very small indie show in England and having a discussion with a friend of mine and saying that he is going to make it in WWE. I totally agree that it seems like Vince Mcmahon screwed up on him big time. He will never be a main event guy now. Unless he goes somewhere else.
I'm pretty sure the reason why VKM got an army of writers instead of doing what they used to would have to do with the WWE being a publicly-traded company. I could imagine the amount of credibility and persuasiveness that is required of Vince to answer to the stakeholders, and sometimes big companies like the WWE would required fancy stuff like "writers from Hollywood, blah blah" to get these shallow stakeholders on board.
I agree 100% with solomonster on every point he has made in his last two videos. This guy has such a knowledge for pro wrestling to the point where I wouldn't mind him working for the company itself. Nothing but story lines the fans want to see
I listen to The Solomonster and Don Tony and Kevin Show for 3-4 years combined mostly DT&KC BUT WATCHING YOUR TH-cam I HAVE SAID FOR YEARS I BELIEVE THE ANONYMOUS RAW GM YEARS AGO WAS RANDY SAVAGE HES BIG RETURN RUNNING THINGS LIKE MANIC IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT I HAVE THOUGHT THIS FOR YEARS THEN UNFORTUNATELY AFTER THE MADNESS PASSED AWAY THEY GAVE IT TO FUCKING HORNSWAGGLE to just end it. Randy savage agent said at THe time the year he died he had a big year coming RIP RANDY SAVAGE SORRY FOR NO PUNCTUATIONS
Bray Wyatt not quite there? Dean Ambrose not quite there? How about booking them to win for once
bye bye junior, you won't be missed
7:30 then why doen't he rebrand the fucking company as WSE????
Cesaro does connect with the audience, open your fucking elephant sized ears Vince, your boyfriend Roman Reigns doesn't connect.
Funny how people hate on Reigns when most of those who hate him were probably the same ones rooting for him a few years back
+Cole Cash yea then he started to get pushed to the moon at the wrong time plus he was so protected to where he had to get busted for violating the policy to get beaten clean for the first time ever. he got stale
kidcuidi1 Nah his fans are just the same generic haters that Cena had
vince has been out of touch since 2007 but doesn't want to admit it
Stoneman180190 it's because his not from American
savage gave triple h sloppy seconds lol
lizard .master that's some good sloppy seconds honestly
Yeah, after Vince say that about Cesaro I stopped listening.
good video
Wwe isn't Madtv, Madtv was hilarious and better than snl at the time
im too lazy to watch all this will clips of it be on tv trax
This interview proved how out of touch Vince is.. Even though an outsider doesn't truly know Vince, by watching the interview you can understand the complaints ppl had who've worked with him in the past. Being dismissive, single minded and out of touch with reality.. You can't get ppl to like your product if you crap on your roster by saying how lack luster they are.. But one can imagine why they don't ask questions or go outside of the box. Its because the creative team stiffles any ideas but they're own and you have this weird, bully, bipolar work environment that incentivize people not to ask questions and go with the flow no matter how bad the idea is.. That's why people like Austin, and Punk left. Because they saw through the administrative b.s. McMahon says he wants the talent to be sharks and vocal but he fires the people who are vocal (see Jim Ross.). Then on top of that, he's a shady businessman which leaves more bad blood with ex talent.
I agree about the 25 minute promos. Triple H is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time but starting every raw with him ranting has ran its course. really im tired of the heel owner. i want the main feuds to be wrestler vs wrestler not wrestler vs owner.
I am sick to fucking death of Lesnar vs Cena.
*thumbs up*
Everyone is sick to fucking death of John Cena in general.
Sound crazy how his intro sounds different
Vince can't be that damn
out of touch. Then again
I'm not too surprised.
"That person doesn't exist? Oh wait except Stephanie, Triple H & I are all really close to his close friend Joey Mercury but meh anyway...."
Amen on Cesaro!!!!!
and randy orton has charisma and great mic skills?
vince is out of touch
Why didnt anyone bring up kurt angle being turned down by HHH.
"Maybe it's his verbal skills, maybe it's because he's Swiss, maybe it's because I'm a mark for what I see on TV because I'm so out of touch I can't see how badly I'm making my own talent look week to week? Maybe it's the fact that I made him as stereotypically European as possible? Maybe it's because I personally don't like foreigners & accents? Maybe it's because of the fucking yodelling? How should I know? I just own this man's whole career"
This video aged well
You could say that cable tv killed the territories.
Gorgeous George then girlfriend of macho man said that savage wanted to have a 3some with her17 year old younger sister. so that Stephanie McMahon rumor might be true, but I doubt he went all the way probally wanted to but didn't succeed.
Preach solomonater if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem if fans are sick of seeing cena we'll show it don't buy his crap merchandise instead of voicing you're opinion on TH-cam do something about it !
It was cool to find out we were born the same year, it's nice to listen to a reviewer who has a similar timeline as it were. The Rock N' Wrestling angle, the Jimmy Snuka Piper's Pit coconut segment etc...Jake Robert's cobra drawing blood from Macho Man's bicep and refusing to let go. I grew up in LI as well and briefly attended Hofstra. We could've been hangin! CAAABLE GUUUUY!! :)
Hate how easily Vince can sell the story right under people's noses. I like Austin, but it's obvious that his character, written as well as "The Rattlesnake", "Stone Cold" was, he was a lot more perceptive and sharp-eyed than he really is. That's the biggest shame, I thought that was his, I didn't think it was part of the show. One thing about CM Punk, nowhere near as entertaining, funny or badass as Austin, BUT, he's far smarter. Given the same bullshit Vince is throwing here, Punk would be able to cut through it like a knife.
The only redeeming thing is that Austin is on "The Network" (nana-nana-nana-Leader/ Yvan et nioj/ cult-talk). Maybe he felt he couldn't be straight. But then that basically fucks up the whole point of Stone Cold's podcast and makes it a bit of a waste of time.
Anyway Vince, you are out of touch with the fans, though I know you're answering that question thinking of little kids, the brats don't drive, and you've decimated your adult viewership pursuing cheesy boring toddler-humour. People wanted CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, now Ziggler, Rusev and Cesaro, yet you continue to send out Cena, Ryback, Batista, HHH. Boring. Boring boring boring. AND, a whole EXTRA HOUR! Of boring. Oh, but bluh bluh bluh, fluster fluster, you're in touch with your fans. Yet they boo Cena every single week. They've NEVER accepted him.
And, if there are MULTIPLE main events, then surely putting Punk at the end of the show makes no difference, seeing as there are MULTIPLE main events, what difference does that main event have to the others? Why not put the guy in there? Just for shits and giggles.
11:00 Awkward day at work
Ryback is king, the greatest 'reslter of all times. Better than Dean Malenko, and more charisma than SCSA.
Ryback is the best. If you disagree you aren't a real fan.
Ryback vs, The Z Man, dream match WM32.
I come back to this years later, and Solomonster himself mentions Roman being the guy to end Undertaker's streak. They ended up having Roman retire the man a few years later anyway, so while I liked Brock ending the streak, how did Vince not think Roman was the guy to do it in the first place? He was "their guy" already at that point, just before his mega push.
Thanks Vince now aew has Ces.
5 yrs later now the fans want CENA BACK LOL!!!!
I think Vince just heard the term "millennials" a week ago and he found it catchy so he used it. It was such a lame, half-hearted attempt to scapegoat an entire generation of wrestlers.
Hating Cena is now a fad. If people really hated him, they wouldn't buy his shit. Unfortunately, people who really hate Cena are a very small minority. But the kids and the women over weighs that minority. Cena sells.
only parents with kids buy his stuff fool
+Jay Williams that doesn't matter. As long as merchandise is selling, nobody cares who exactly is buying it
I love the idea of multiple podcasts like this over the year. Stagger them around, so you have a big ppv, a NXT special and a podcast interview per quarter, so every month there's something must watch on the network. Not that I have the network, being in the UK, but that's a different gripe.
raw is longer, but they're still pushing the same number of people. that's the problem.
they wouldn't be pointless if those people were actually getting pushed. there's so much more room now to make so many more people, but no, they stick with 3 people getting pushed.
The comment by Vince that there was no one that could have bridged the gap with CM Punk and WWE is a LIE! What about uh um maybe PAUL HEYMAN? Does Paul not currently work for WWE, and is he not a close friend of CM Punk? What about John Cena? Yea maybe they don't exactly like each other but they had a working relationship and respect was built up. If they really wanted to make Cena look like a hero for once, why not have him stick his neck out for Punk again when he was in need of help in making sense of things? Cena is the perfect foil for punk but also could have been a friend when he needed one most. Fact is HHH acted like a jealous boob and felt that Punk was a threat to his own legacy which I don't see how that is even possible...HHH has already cemented his legacy and should have been happy with that and he needs to move on. It is pathetic that they let such an asset go this way and think that was going to be okay.
Epic TrololoGuy And the fact that HHH let that happen to Punk makes me laugh when he talks about how he bridged the gap between Warrior and WWE. I guess it's easier to bridge the gap to Vince's grudges when there's lots of money and touching moments to be had, but not so much when it's his own.
Because Cena is one of those gutless nonsensical douche bag yes men Punk was talking about
The creative process has to do with distributors and and stuff because of the times we live in. I've long said that it's not so much WWE'S desire to sanitize and dial down everything, it's the network and sponsors they have deals with. Don't get me wrong, I blame Vince for that because every time they sign one of these deals, especially their television rights deal, they're basically selling out more to the devil in terms of what they can or cannot do. I especiall think this was the case over the summer with thr latrest TV deal. NBC knee Vince shot himself in the foot by overhyping the network and knew they could take him to the cleaners not only on money. But promotions and content. When you get on Wall streets shit list, companies like that have you by the balls and they know it. You think Vince came up with the idea to have todd chrisley on RAW? Hell no! They want to do movies, the company says ok, but you're going to use your international tv show to promote. And then you factor in the fear of bad PR WWE has been peeing their pants over since Benoit, and WOAHLAH!
Its funny how people want to bury Roman Reigns for having no charisma, when Cesaro is the exact same way, if not worse. His acting is shit, his talking is shit. He's a great wrestler no doubt, but so was Dean Malenko and he was mostly a lower midcard to upper midcard guy almost his whole run.
Have you seen him lately?
+Jay Williams i saw the promo he and miz stumbled over before payback
Cesaro is no where near as stiff as Malenko was
Monster hit it on the head. Corporate sponsor, they have screwed it up in wrestling and in life. The mom and pop shops are gone and now we pay up the nose all in the name of corporate sponsor
Go to a ball game and take your kid or kids and see you spend a couple of hundred bucks and many of us cannot afford.
Brock LESNAR should not get pinned for a long time a "streak" if you will
Agreed. I mean, the guy ended the fucking STREAK. No matter who likes it or loathes it, bottom line is it happened. No Mulligans. Gotta build off it. Best way to keep Brock hot was by absolutely destroying Cena at SummerSlam. Should've done the same at Night of Champions, OR keep the finish they went with, but then have the blowoff match inside Hell in a Cell in October. So, by the Rumble, Brock's got a fresh opponent. A face Cesaro, a face Orton, Sheamus, Ziggler, someone NOT named John Cena.
And they give Brock a fight, nut ultimately Brock wins heading into WrestleMania. And that's where he's supposedly gonna drop the title most likely to Roman Reigns. His last date on his current contract as far as we know, or unless he re-signs, is the night after 'Mania. I say, fuck it, sign him up for another year, keep the title on him and have him drop it at 'Mania 32 or even SummerSlam next year. WrestleMania still feels too soon for him to lose especially after ending the Streak and making Cena his bitch. Feels like a waste of the Streak if the dude who ended it is beaten the following year, and leaves the company.
***** but*** ultimately Brock wins heading into WrestleMania...
Vince is right.. maybe he didn't say it in the right way but Cesaro doesn't have that "it" factor to be a leading star.. midcard at best
Snootz86 You're a moron. He's getting huge pops.
errmmmm aj lee is punks wife ; surely she can bridge the gap?
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