CUTTER Vs ANACONDA: Which Ship Is Best For Mining?

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  • @honnorgaurd
    @honnorgaurd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    For me, its my Cutter without question. When i go out mining, im not as concerned about having a blast. im there for only one singular purpose: to make as much damn capital as possible to fund my ambitions and do what I really enjoy. When i go out to mine, i want to make it count. And Nothing makes profit like this thing when used right. and even still, once you get the hang of how she flies, its still very relaxing and enjoyable mining with her. There's also another major advantage it has over the anaconda thats critical.... not only is it able to still have MASSIVE protective shields and weaponry to easily defend itself, its also WAAAAAY faster and nearly immune to being mass locked. what this translates into is a mining ship that is virtually impossible to take down if someones careful. making it one of the safest ships for mining in the game if there's ever any trouble. that peace of mind to me is worth far more value to me than any advantages the conda could give as there is nothing more demoralizing than spending all that time mining only to have a pirate player or enemy ship jump in out of nowhere and destroy not only your ship but all your hard work and profit. you just have so much flexibility with this ship.

  • @perilousrange
    @perilousrange ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For in-system (carrier) mining, the large number of internal module slots allows the Anaconda to have vast amounts of collectors, especially if you use the 7a Universal (8 simultaneous). You sacrifice cargo space, but when you have massive collectors and an engineered power distributor, you move so quickly. However, for long haul mining, the Cutter's massive capacity makes the many jumps worth your time.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point. But plat prices keep dropping. There's no point maximising profit, at least for me

    • @perilousrange
      @perilousrange ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lootandgrind I've never actually mined platinum... Back when I did laser mining, it was primarily bromellite, sold to carriers. I genuinely like mining, but it's not in the top professions for raw cash haul these days.

    • @jasperlit1345
      @jasperlit1345 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Vette has better internals for mining to be honest, the jump range is pretty bad, but it works well mining with a carrier. o7

    • @bodbyss
      @bodbyss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lootandgrind what price did you used to have? I saw 5k demand for 279,000 per t pop up yesterday. And last week I was mining in a system with a FC buying up 240k per T which was also incredibly convenient

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have only mined in the Cutter, then gave it up for the Python. I have not tried the Anaconda. I might have to give it a try. Great video as always.

  • @mechagenide9491
    @mechagenide9491 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gonna throw a wildcard at ya, Type 10 Defender with 9 double engineered mining lasers from Zetian's Recall in LTT 198 (it's a permit locked system, so you may need to unlock it, and takes some raw materials and 16 osmium to purchase each laser, so buying 9 isn't that easy, but it's well worth it IMO).
    The extra range on the double engineered lasers, and the fact that they don't get any "damage falloff" makes up for the Type 10's slower speed, and the fact that they only have 50% power draw means you can fire constantly until the rock is drained with all lasers.
    Holds 288 cargo (+ 6 in the refinery) , so not as much as the cutter, but still a nice long mining session.
    13 active collector limpets (a 3a, 5a and a 7a multi controller) and 2 prospectors (a 3a), so scouting for rocks isn't too much of a chore)
    Really is a fun build... and laser mining with friends is so much better 'cos everyone gets 100% from each rock!

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ooh That sounds very tempting. I will save this for later. Thanks for sharing. o7

    • @nahsonnn2573
      @nahsonnn2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do we get the permit for that system? I'm all for 50% reduced power draw! I bet that speeds up mining considerably.

    • @mechagenide9491
      @mechagenide9491 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nahsonnn2573 You have to get enough reputation to become allied with the faction "Torval Mining Ltd" - just do a load of missions for them (The largest system they have a presence in is Tsim Binba)

    • @jasperlit1345
      @jasperlit1345 ปีที่แล้ว

      The T-10 will run 3 class 2's ands 6 of the class one pre engineered > th-cam.com/video/3nOksvCbGko/w-d-xo.html

    • @bodbyss
      @bodbyss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that''s an awful idea. What does the engineering for long range even give you? You want to be as close to the rock as possible when mining so that your collectors can grab things in the blink of an eye. Otherwise all the minerals will fly off into a spread pattern and you lose a ton of time. A large miner has no excuse to be running a 3A prospector instead of a 5A prospector controller either. You **need** to be able to taste rocks faster, so you need the 5A.
      The number of lasers doesn't help you either after 4. You need 12 collectors to effectively support 4 mining lasers. Adding more lasers means you no longer have enough collectors. It just halves the already incredibly short time it takes to drain a rock dry but doesnt help you pick up the minerals faster or move between rocks faster.

  • @perilousrange
    @perilousrange ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Completely off topic, but totally useful... Professor Palin's desire for Unclassified Relics will allow you to bypass the normal unlock process, if you show up with one. Doesn't even cost you the relic. You can do it, then toss to a buddy. Just don't lose it.

  • @tommyleisy863
    @tommyleisy863 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree that patience and gameplay time play a big role in which ship to use. Myself, I lack the patience to mine more than 200 to 300 tons of anything before I take my cargo back to my fleet carrier. That said, for those who do not own a carrier, the Anaconda's jump range makes it easier to unload, in some cases without a fuel scoop at all which allows even more cargo space. It also has a larger distributor for better handling of more mining lasers. The Cutter has the advantage in total cargo and straight line speed to run from pirates which helps if you are in that situation. Also, I have found that flying around or between rocks in the Cutter could be mitigated greatly by using mining lances with 4 times the range of normal mining lasers. This keeps you further from the rocks and limits the chances of hitting them accidently. Then you just have to rotate your ship and shoot the next rock without really moving the ship at all.
    I do have a question though: Have you ever considered mining with a Corvette? It has the exact core modules as the Anaconda so it can also handle more lasers and it has both more cargo, and better maneuverability. Enough that you can even core mine with it too! At the great loss of jump range, which isn't an issue if you have a fleet carrier. Anyway, I've used all 3 and I am currently using an Anaconda for laser mining equipped with 6 mining lances, leaving the large and huge hardpoints on the bottom for defense weapons should the need arise. Oh, and the mining lances also do damage to pirates so, I can and have taken out pirates and went right back to mining! Lol.
    Sorry this was so long, just sharing my experience. o7 Commanders!

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone else also mentioned using a vette for mining so I'm curious to try it out. But I tried mining with more lasers and it wasn't effective. More limpets was the better choice in my experience. And as I said, I'm not worried about maximising profit. Exobiology is the best money-maker right now. Mining is purely for fun

  • @jasperlit1345
    @jasperlit1345 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also don't like spending a long time in the ring.
    I use a Vette, as it has better maneuverability and optional internal space for mining (can take advantage of the 8 collectors from 7a multi limpet controller and still run 256 cargo.
    I run five class 2 and two class one engineered mining lasers, 256 cargo, 20 collectors, two class 3a prospectors that I run on a seperate fire group so I can fire 4 prospectors in about the time it takes to fire 2 with one 3a prospector.
    This build burns down asteroids in about 16 seconds without stopping or overheating, and I fill the 266 cargo with platinum in about 30-35 minutes.
    I don't run a shield as I mine off of my carrier, but a shield could be added but you would only have 17 collectors.
    o7

  • @FrankEmmons
    @FrankEmmons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mining build is a type-9. Sure it is slow and turns like a drunk elephant, but it has a lot of cargo space and is cheap build compared to a lot of other options. Now when I mine I will keep my fleet carrier parked very close. Fill up with plat, offload to the fleet carrier, repeat. I'll do that until I feel like doing something else and with the carrier right there I can grab one of my other ships and go do whatever and come back later whenever I feel like mining again. When I decide its time to sell all that plat, I jump to the system that has the best prices and offload. Like printing credits. Thanks for the vid!

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess with the fleet carrier near by you could use a smaller ship to mine faster. But always fly whichever ship you enjoy flying. o7

  • @torcheddreadnought899
    @torcheddreadnought899 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I made soooooo much money mining back before they beat it senseless with the nerfed bat. These days I mainly do tritium mining with a cutter to fuel my FC. Never tried doing it with a conda but I will have a look at it now since I tend to get bored before I fill up the cutter and my conda is just collecting dust.

    • @perilousrange
      @perilousrange ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My record for a shieldless Anaconda was... I think 21 collectors at once. It was a lot of fun.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mining continues to get worse in terms of profit but I still enjoy the activity.

    • @torcheddreadnought899
      @torcheddreadnought899 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lootandgrind ya, it's a good way to unwind.

  • @MrShadowpanther3
    @MrShadowpanther3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have mined with both. If doing mapped mining and going for sheer tonnage, can't beat the cutter.
    But I can't sit and mine for huge amounts of time without getting bored and in VR, it is kind of inconvenient to get the mapped images in the VR display and keep changing them.
    The Anaconda is about right size for me. Note: I do use my carrier as a mining base.
    My Anaconda is set up with 4 mining lasers, Sub Surface drill, abrasion blaster, and seismic charge launcher.
    Plenty of collectors keep the ore coming in and the rear cockpit keeps my perspective away from faceplanting the rock.
    I can mine any rock I come up against.
    In Platinum Hotspots you get both surface and sub surface with the occasional sweet candy core to pop.
    256 tons of cargo seems about right for my attention span.
    I normally roll out with 200 limpets and depending on my luck, I am dumping limpets by the time I am down to 100 or so. 8-10 at a time to make room for incoming rocks.
    If I hit it just right, the last collectors flying have stuffed the hold and pack the remaining slots in the refinery.
    Pack up shop. Abandon my poor loyal limpets, and dump my cargo at the carrier.
    For sales runs, I will pack the Cutter as it has better range and capacity.
    Normally I don't move the carrier as getting a good parking spot in a double platinum system can be tricky.

    • @MrShadowpanther3
      @MrShadowpanther3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joe20839Without jumping in the game and digging it up, it would be 2 small mining lasers, 2 medium, 1 sub surface launcher, 1 abrasion blaster, 256 in storage, Whatever the 4 bin refinery is, and the other slots class A Limpet Launchers.
      I typically set out with 200 limpets and depending on my success I am venting limpets by the time I am down to 100 to make space for more ore.
      Best runs I have 256 platinum and all 4 bin crammed with unprocessed ore for a few more once I dump the hold.
      Usually that is about an hour of rockhopping at the overlap. Not that it means anything anymore.
      Oh the long gone heydays of LTD mapped mining... Only reason I have a carrier today. Understandable why they nerfed it.

  • @MrSmartman23
    @MrSmartman23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do mining maybe couple times a week and just for fun so my favorite way is - krait mk2, 200 cargo, dirty drives and 550m/s faoff boosting between rocks :) Core/sub surface mining, lasers are pretty boring on my opinion. And also I dont look for specific best profitable spots, just jumping around nearest systems and scan rings for hotspots, blowing each core , not focusing on any specific type. Pretty fun and relaxing if you ask me)

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't considered Krait Mk as a mining ship. I'll definitely give it a try sometime.

  • @nahsonnn2573
    @nahsonnn2573 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I prefer the anaconda. It can have 12 collectors and just under 200 tonnes of cargo, making the mining fast and reducing the time until i get paid 😂 filling a 500 tonne cargo hold always took a bit too much time for me to keep interested in 1 session.

  • @NoOne56488
    @NoOne56488 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    takes me less than an hour to fill up the cutter, power distribution is engineered to increase charge rate so i can run 4 mining beams class 2 and I have 9 limpets collecting. I fire off prospect limpets while i wait for them to load up.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's very impressive

    • @NoOne56488
      @NoOne56488 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lootandgrind Run a A rated prospector limpet, helps with the yields.

  • @ogilvymoreau2171
    @ogilvymoreau2171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally, neither the conda or the cutter are my choice for mining. I prefer the Corvette. Not only because the size 8 distributor can fire 3 size 2 mining lasers continually until a rock is depleted, same as a conda, but it only takes 2.5 pips and 10 seconds to strip a rock which means you can still devote 2 pips to engines making it faster and more nimble than cutter or conda.
    It'll take 384t of ore - 50% more than conda and pretty evenly matched to the cutter if you choose to take a multi-limpet. If you don't, then the corvette can fly 13 collectors to the cutter's 12, speeding up the process. Last, the corvette can carry a full complement of 3x med laser, 1x abrasion, 1x sub-surface plus 2 Huge hardpoints for those pirates. The conda can just about match that with 1x huge and 2 x large but the poor cutter can't compete with only 1 huge left over and much poorer convergence.

    • @bodbyss
      @bodbyss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "50% more than conda and pretty evenly matched to the cutter if you choose to take a multi-limpet" Cutter has 4 fullsize mining lasers that it has no trouble running, and the optimal 13 limpets while keeping 512 cargo.

  • @wstavis3135
    @wstavis3135 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, the ship that made me Elite and a billionaire was the Python. These days, my go-to is usually my cutter, but I've been having fun trying out others for the hack of it.
    For instance, I made a minimally engineered Type 7 laser miner recently. It's slow, ugly, and hallows a bit like a drunk hippo, but it can mine over 250 tons of material. It forces patience and decompression.
    My Clipper, in contrast, is very heavily engineered and used to quickly mine for platinum or to quickly grind manufactured materials by relogging at High Grade emission spawns.

  • @peterlylov5580
    @peterlylov5580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Type-10 is the ideal universal mining platform. Can't see any other ship in this role with comparable performance and flexibility.

  • @ykfung1853
    @ykfung1853 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your sharing. I was just confused with the use of anaconda. Thanks for your suggestions. That is quite help a lot. I also do not have much time to play this game. So it is the same with your feelings to play ED.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found it helpful. o7

  • @darkdragonwithblackscales7450
    @darkdragonwithblackscales7450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my opinion, bigger ship doesn't really mean better. I think python might be the best ship for mining, mainly because it is a medium ship. It has a lesser capacity, but is able to land on more stations. So while it's required to do "breaks" to empty cargo racks more often, you can get better prices for mined stuff.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Python is my favourite. But with the Conda you can equip more collector limpets and mine faster

    • @darkdragonwithblackscales7450
      @darkdragonwithblackscales7450 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lootandgrind I think the subject of which ship is the best, differences depending on the method of mining we are using.
      Python is the best for deep core mining, where amount of collector limpets doesn't really change things too much, but access to smaller ports is important.
      Anaconda is the best ship for surface platinum mining, where a lot of collector limpets is a massive help. Not mentioning how many fleet carriers are set to take as much platinum as you can mine.
      I guess it's time for me to do a brake from deep core mining and mine some platinum with anaconda instead.

  • @adamdiebold6412
    @adamdiebold6412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Strip mining is like fresh water fishing. Core mining is like salt water fishing

  • @williamvorkosigan5151
    @williamvorkosigan5151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Python. I can be out & back in an hour. That's with standard Limpet Controllers. I have yet to switch over to Mining Limpet Controllers. Then it might even be faster. I keep it at a station with a Raw Material trader & fly to it in my Trading Anaconda. Fill up. Switch the Prospector Limpet Controller for a Cargo Rack & that empties out anything in my Refinery. I can then see if the best price is a Medium or Large Landing pad. If large (nearly ever time) I just change ships & I am away. If Medium I swap out 2 controllers for a Fuel Scoop & Guardian FSD Booster. Switch the Refinery for a docking computer & I'm away in the Python. Sell, back, put the ship back to mining configuration for the next time then back to my Carrier in my Anaconda.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      Python is the best hands down.

  • @jimihenedrixson7568
    @jimihenedrixson7568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Type 7 or 9 is the only way to go. If you can't afford them/need a M pad go with a keelback or T6. Tracking python is the meta but its better suited for combat.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      Type 9 is slow as a rock. Worse than the Cutter. I use it for trading but nothing else.

    • @jimihenedrixson7568
      @jimihenedrixson7568 ปีที่แล้ว

      With engineering its not to bad and what it lacks in speed it makes up with being one of the most maneuverable ships in the game. Plus it just looks like a space truck.

    • @jimihenedrixson7568
      @jimihenedrixson7568 ปีที่แล้ว

      ☝️T7, not T9. Can't edit but yeah the T9 is a giant brick that is slow and can't turn for sure.

  • @adamdiebold6412
    @adamdiebold6412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    T9 with triple mining lazers, 2 collector panels, and a fighter bay...thats the best strip miner. 256t of cargo is about as much mining as you will wanna do in an evening.
    Krait MK2 is best for core mining.

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well……. Depends, carrier supported the cutter comes out tops. If your hiking your commodities the anaconda has faster turn around time. Though it has been a long time since I did anything other than trit mining in the deep black.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว

      With a carrier I think the Conda is the fastest approach to mining. You can park the carrier close to shorten the trips

  • @gislasson
    @gislasson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi sir great video for me when i am playing ( i am not playing due to the way the company do the things with console players) i already try those 2 ship models with the conda the proccess was fast so the ship had a lower capacity than the cutter well prepare to use it so would take more time to fill the ship but i made best minnig experiences and enjoying ones using a t10 defender personally moves really good for a big ship the cargo capacity would be half beetween the conda and the cutter but the canopy view from the type 10 was a lot better personally i was doing minning operations with my carrier near by so when a reach certain amount of material i would travel to a post (specially best profitable ones ) and make a good amount of credits.
    the history to get the cutter for me is the same as you are i will make my way to imperial ranks when i reach duke i will get the clearance to the marvelous cutter and i brought actually i got 2 on my carrier then i plot route to one of the bigger comerce port sites RANA at make a lot of transport missions with the (PEACEMILION) that is my ship and i mean a lot i manage to have 7 billion credits then i a rare event the developers have a 50% discount on the value to cmdrs spend and adquire their carriers and i finnaly got my chance to get the( LUSITANIA) my carrier and then is history sir ! it congrats cmdr another great video sir!

  • @SWIFTO_SCYTHE
    @SWIFTO_SCYTHE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hear ya friend. But i laser mine... in a Type9. 😂😊haha. I never have enough time to fill all 512 cargo slots.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tried mining with a cutter and same thing happened. It took forever to fill the ship lol Python is perfect for short gaming sessions

  • @thepackyouknow
    @thepackyouknow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clutter, if you have an FC conda if you don't.... and they should both be in haz rez hot spots, in my opinion.

  • @dillonjay6605
    @dillonjay6605 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly, I prefer the type 9. Its almost as good as my cutter but the view is much better allowing me to spot roids better without going to cam mode.

  • @Tamburello_1994
    @Tamburello_1994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't have to choose because I own them both.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But you can only fly one at a time :)

  • @michaele8157
    @michaele8157 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I literally just grabbed a conda think I may give it a shot

  • @alen7492
    @alen7492 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    New Player - What is best mining ship with best in slot standard modules vs best mining ship with ultimate acquirable/engineered modules? Mining performance in Dangerous sites taken into account. That's why it is so complicate for me. I want to start in the very best ship. Ship cost is not an issue if I don't get blown up from the npc pirates.

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The very best is the Anaconda. But I recommend starting in the Python

    • @alen7492
      @alen7492 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lootandgrind Tywm!

  • @kane11299
    @kane11299 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what's the cutter mining built for 500 mill?

  • @carljhirst
    @carljhirst 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    300 ton of Platinum takes 15mins if that now. Laser mining in double Hots, is very quick. 50% Plats everywhere.
    Anaconda for Safety, T10 for larger runs. The other mining ways are tedious and now lower return for the time taken.

  • @grey5751
    @grey5751 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cutter v Anaconda isn't even close, the type 9 is a much better comparison to the Cutter. You don't _have_ to fill the hold, just do your thing and leave when the squirrels call.

  • @Konstruktor82
    @Konstruktor82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you live somewhere in Europe, Loot... or do you work strange hours? Your uploading time is very 'European'. Anyway, it's settled then - gonna get myself a mining Conda :)

    • @lootandgrind
      @lootandgrind  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a mystery lol go get your mining conda, friend. You're gonna love it