When we were music students in Calcutta in the 1970's these were the shiz! I have to confess words like meditative and sooo peaceful miss the point completely..This is highly trained genius, with 500 years of tradition behind it. Listen to how they play with one key phraese which is the capital G of genius.
Sir: many thanks for this post. Incredible. Incredible. Incredible. Listen to the prayoga Ni Sa Dha Ni Ri. Every time it comes out differently. Infinite variations with the deepest and profound intellect.
I found a lot of content from Dagars on Spotify. Timeless artists. That's my whole night playlist. 1st time I heard Jaijaiwanti from Chote Gulam Ali Sahab. Amazing. Beautiful post for sure. Thanks a lot for this.
Yes this may indeed be Ram Narayan ..Since this recording there has been a creeping collapse in Indian classical music...Particularly Drupad! Who's got 11 hours a day to spend from the age of 6 years and inspired uncles prepared to give away all the tricks, ins and outs of their family trade these days?
The bowed instrument would be a sarangi. It may even be Ram Narayan, as I think he played with them for some recordings. Pity about the sound quality, but the singing is totally far out.
Their descendants &disciples have failed to maintain the Senior Dagar Brother's close approximatiion to Saam Veda the origin of Dhrupad which is meditation on sound
I am a new listener of Dhrupad and have listened to versions rendered by the Junior Dagar brothers and Uday Bhawalkar and have observed this difference somehow through my ears(though not knowing actually). Could you please throw some light on your comment ..I am interested to know :)
One clear difference I see now more emphasis on gamak than meer. That mellifluous subtlety is not there. If you listen Sri Sayeduddin dagar, in a good speaker or headphone you will see sometime the note is not sung it is like a sigh. That level of subtlety gives you a frisson. Another thing is very important in dhrupad is the meaningful glimpses of silence. It is not for entertainment. It's a meditative trance. Another thing I miss in current singers are the Sanskrit shlok recitation. All these are ang of dhrupad. You might also consider that Tagore being a disciple of great vishnupur tradition dhrupad singer Jodubhatto has a lot of dhrupad influence in his songs. That subtle steady flow of note, meer I find thrm very much like dhrupad.
@@bitan86 This is my personal opinion though, and it is not right to do this comparison but still in some cases like Bhairav, Megh, Gundecha's gamak is more variant and you love to listen to the shrutis (swars between tones), then you can try some of those. My opinion might change, since I am learning to listen as well and more I listen more I discover from the same performance, I kind of educate myself more on that.
When we were music students in Calcutta in the 1970's these were the shiz!
I have to confess words like meditative and sooo peaceful miss the point completely..This is highly trained genius, with 500 years of tradition behind it. Listen to how they play with one key phraese which is the capital G of genius.
The incredible pathos of Jaijaiwanti, offered to perfection. Salute to these great Ustads.
What a fantastic & controlled rendering of the Raag. Unforgettable. Thanks for sharing.
Sir: many thanks for this post. Incredible. Incredible. Incredible. Listen to the prayoga Ni Sa Dha Ni Ri. Every time it comes out differently. Infinite variations with the deepest and profound intellect.
Isnt it so refreshing to take the East meets west out of the equation and just listen to the pure source of Drupad
The merging of the voice with the tanpura gives goosebumps !
Beautiful. Such lovely phrasing.
Now THAT is vocal meditation.
1960 New Delhi Listening to them brought amazing insight into what music could be
Merci pour ce merveilleux partage.
The Ma here brings tears of joy to my eyes. Kya baat hai...
I found a lot of content from Dagars on Spotify. Timeless artists. That's my whole night playlist.
1st time I heard Jaijaiwanti from Chote Gulam Ali Sahab. Amazing.
Beautiful post for sure. Thanks a lot for this.
Yes this may indeed be Ram Narayan ..Since this recording there has been a creeping collapse in Indian classical music...Particularly Drupad! Who's got 11 hours a day to spend from the age of 6 years and inspired uncles prepared to give away all the tricks, ins and outs of their family trade these days?
Such a pleasure to listen to Jayjayvanti in dagarwani. Though only 30 min, but oh! What splendid 30 min.
There's an hour-long by ZF too) You'll love it, Ramesh-da)
Beautiful , meditative... brings peace. to the listener... words cannot express the joy! Thank you for sharing.
So so soothing
Sadhooo... Meditative...
The bowed instrument would be a sarangi. It may even be Ram Narayan, as I think he played with them for some recordings. Pity about the sound quality, but the singing is totally far out.
Where can i purchase this recording?
Can you give me more details?
Like cd title and possible outlet.
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beautiful, I didn't know they used dilruba
Tambouras and Sarangi is the instrument that follows the melody lines
Their descendants &disciples have failed to maintain the Senior Dagar Brother's close approximatiion to Saam Veda the origin of Dhrupad which is meditation on sound
I am a new listener of Dhrupad and have listened to versions rendered by the Junior Dagar brothers and Uday Bhawalkar and have observed this difference somehow through my ears(though not knowing actually). Could you please throw some light on your comment ..I am interested to know :)
One clear difference I see now more emphasis on gamak than meer. That mellifluous subtlety is not there. If you listen Sri Sayeduddin dagar, in a good speaker or headphone you will see sometime the note is not sung it is like a sigh. That level of subtlety gives you a frisson. Another thing is very important in dhrupad is the meaningful glimpses of silence. It is not for entertainment. It's a meditative trance. Another thing I miss in current singers are the Sanskrit shlok recitation. All these are ang of dhrupad.
You might also consider that Tagore being a disciple of great vishnupur tradition dhrupad singer Jodubhatto has a lot of dhrupad influence in his songs. That subtle steady flow of note, meer I find thrm very much like dhrupad.
@@ssoupayan Aptly described.
@@bitan86 This is my personal opinion though, and it is not right to do this comparison but still in some cases like Bhairav, Megh, Gundecha's gamak is more variant and you love to listen to the shrutis (swars between tones), then you can try some of those. My opinion might change, since I am learning to listen as well and more I listen more I discover from the same performance, I kind of educate myself more on that.
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