Was just coming to say this. My family still regularly calls it "hamburger" instead of "ground beef." I don't think I've really picked up on that, but I definitely know that my parents used that terminology (mom from Chicago. Dad from Sioux Falls, for placement purposes).
I'm 60 and grew up in the south... we called it either 'hamburger' or 'ground beef' interchangeably. My dad was a butcher in New Jersey and he referred to it the same way.
Maybe in your neck of the woods. I'm 52 and have only ever lived in Georgia and North Carolina. Calling ground beef "hamburger" always seemed like a thing only Yankees did.
@@JimCofer Nope... lots of *Rednecks* around here call it hamburger as well. And the South isn't limited to just GA and North Cackalacky. Just various dialects by regions.
Texas girl here and it was ground meat or hamburger. Never caused confusion. I'm and in California now and I can still get "hamburger" meat at the meat market.
I'm an Air Force Brat. Grew up all over the US and (in the early 50s) Canada, too. Hamburger has been my go-to term for ground beef, and was pretty much everywhere I lived.
Same here... Air Force brat... Dad was stationed at Ramore, Ontario at the radar station in '53-'55 and lived in Matheson I presume on Railway St as we rented the old Train Station... originally from Maine and always called it hamburger... Dad was originally stationed at Dow AFB late 40's early 50's...
'Hamburg' wasn't always just beef... unscrupulous storekeepers back in the day when there were actual butchers in the stores, might just toss in all the days off cuts with the beef scrap and maybe some chuck.m @@t.c.2776
Growing up in the Texas when we went to the store it was something along the lines of " grab me some hamburger, I'm making { spaghetti, meatloaf, etc. ...} " but we knew what was meant.
Good morning 🙏 I'm from Newfoundland. I'm in my early 40s. I know ground beef as hamburger meat l...they're interchangeable to me. I also know soft serve icecream as custard cones. I once asked the server at McDonald's for a custard cone, and he looked at me like I had 2 heads haha! It must be a generational thing lol
I grew up in California, my parents in Minnesota and New York. Like many here, I knew and call it hamburger. Sometimes I’ll think to myself “burger meat”. I very much enjoy your history lessons. I may not care for what you’re making, but I do enjoy the history. 🌼 PS: I’m glad I did not grow up eat “Healthful Sandwiches”. As my mother used to say; “Ish!”
Lived in England for awhile, so I often add it to my shopping list as “mince”. It’s always interesting to hear different words for things in different countries, but it’s amazing how words pop up in use from different areas. Sometimes it’s because they moved from the same area, but other times it’s a different reason. Fun to find, that’s for sure.
@@DickHolman everyone I know calls ground beef “mince”. Funnily I suspect most British people would probably think of “sweet meats” if you said “minced meat”
My mother (born in 1920 in Leicestershire UK) would make a dish she called mince which was essentially a ground beef stew. She would serve it with dumplings made from Bisquick and steamed on top of the mince. To our unsophisticated palates, it was delicious!
Growing up in Oregon, if you were sent to the store for “hamburger” (singular) it meant ground beef. If it was plural or “a hamburger”, that meant the formed hamburger patties. My family came from the East Coast of the US, and my grandmother definitely referred to ground beef as “Hamburg”. :)
The story I heard from my etymology professor in college was : Steak was more of a luxury item in Europe, especially Germany, in the 17th and 18th century. (Refrigerated shipping didn't start until the later part of 19th century.) Ground or minced beef was somewhat more affordable, so thrifty folks would take ground beef, season it and make a steak-sized patty. When the German settlers got to North America, they brought their Hamburg steak with them. Since beef was more affordable here, it became a popular dish. Someone realized sandwich-sized portions could be sold cheaply to mill and factory workers looking for a cheap meal, and hamburgers came to be.
Great comment to add my 2cts to as an European person and half German. 'Ground meat' is called 'Gehacktes' or chopped meat. Cheap Dutch beef meat is called 'German Beefsteak' which is lean beef trims chopped to mince and pressed or formed into a patty. It therefore would not be far off to say that the German influence of settlers preparing meat leftovers specifically cut to the tiniest shreds and later became ground beef to be named Hamburger as the ingredient to a beef patty...
Lived in New Hampshire and grew up saying Hamburg. My grandfather's family was from Nova Scotia and moved to Maine before he was born and my grandmother was from Massachusets. My husband is from Ohio and calls it ground beef. Not sure of his family history. Thank you for the amazing trip down memory lane with the Sunday Cook Book show.
I have come across a large portion of people who call it "Hamburger meat", including my daughter. I think she picked that up in NC. But people in KY call it that too. I usually call it hamburger.
I love the way Glen gives us a history lesson with each of his old cookbook shows. I have learned so much from watching. Especially about spices & sugars that are not regional to our area. Quebecois French also uses hamberger in place of ground beef in thier terminoligy.
There is one cookbook I want VERY much? A church cookbook from around 1970. My gf has it. In there is a whole pile of recipies from my Relatives! Aunts, Grandmother, Cousins, etc. I never saw it, until she let me see it, last year! It was like going back in Time to my 4yr old Time, when we lived in that tiny "Station".
Here in Sweden "hamburger meat" has ended up meaning horse meat. Stores would sell ground beef, ground pork, and "hamburger". It was a generic term for ground meat, but the generic term wasn't really used for beef or pork. It was the "mystery meat".
I'm from North Dakota. I grew up not too far away from Grafton, ND. (Seeing a cookbook on your channel from my home region was really awesome!) Anyway, if you said, "hamburger" as singular, it means ground beef, but hamburgers as plural, it refers to, well, hamburgers. But I've never heard it referred to as "hamburg."
My family didn't buy things mail order, but every other week my parents would visit our former neighbors, who had moved about 20 miles away, and I was brought along. They played cards and I had to entertain myself. Usually I read or watched TV, but I really loved looking through their Spiegel catalogue. Later on, in college, and without a car, I ordered a lot of items from the Sears & Roebuck's catalogue because they would ship it to my dorm.
Glen & Friends Cooking's latest episode of the Old Cookbook Show. Glen takes us on a journey back to 1936 with a recreation of the Escalloped Hamburg recipe from the "Golden Jubilee Recipes 1886 to 1936" cookbook, courtesy of the Ladies Aid Society of the Poplar Hill Church of Christ in Ontario. Glen begins the episode by providing historical context, giving us insight into the community church cookbook and its significance in preserving culinary traditions of the era. The focus on baking and sweets, alongside glimpses into local businesses, sets the stage for a delightful culinary adventure. The recipe itself, Escalloped Hamburg, is simple yet intriguing. Glen meticulously layers hamburg steak with thin slices of raw potatoes and finely chopped onions, seasoned with salt and pepper, and dotted with butter. The alternating layers build anticipation for the final dish. As Glen expertly assembles the ingredients, his attention to detail and passion for historical cooking shines through. The addition of milk to moisten the dish before baking adds a comforting touch, reminiscent of home-cooked meals from yesteryears. Once the Escalloped Hamburg is assembled, Glen guides us through the baking process, emphasizing the importance of a moderately hot oven for optimal results. The anticipation builds as the aroma fills the kitchen, transporting us back to rural Ontario in the 1930s. Upon tasting the finished dish, Glen's & Julia's enthusiasm is palpable. The combination of tender hamburg steak, perfectly cooked potatoes, and onions infused with buttery goodness evokes nostalgia for simpler times. The flavors harmonize beautifully, showcasing the culinary prowess of 1930s home cooks. In conclusion, Glen & Friends Cooking's recreation of the Escalloped Hamburg recipe is a testament to the enduring appeal of vintage cooking. Through meticulous research and culinary skill, Glen brings history to life, inviting us to savor the flavors of a bygone era. Whether you're a history buff or a food enthusiast, this episode is sure to captivate and inspire.
Hi Glen. I'm in my late 50's and grew up in Metro Detroit. It's hamburger here. I look forward to your videos. I watch with my laptop and my wife likes to look over my shoulder. She can't hear the audio because I'm listening with my Airpods, but she'll make comments like, "That looks good" and "That's interesting." My favorite one comes during the Old Cookbook Show, "Oh, I don't think she liked that." Thanks to You and Julie for being entertaining.
Hello from Wisconsin. My grandfather was a second generation American from a German family. He and my grandmother owned a small grocery store in the '60s and '70s where he was a butcher. They always called ground beef "hamburger", and so I grew up with everybody in my family calling it hamburger. I still call it that. It's very common here. Also, regarding spices, I always wondered why my mother and both grandmothers seasoned everything with just butter, salt and pepper when there is a world of spices. And then I bought a very old cookbook in an antique store that's in German and was published in Milwaukee, WI. It is a cookbook for German immigrants to Wisconsin from around the turn of the last century. Very interesting. And the recipes recommend seasoning everything with butter, salt and pepper. So now I know. It's a very old cultural thing.
yep. I remember my grandpa going to the store to "pick up some hamburger" for my grandma. I want to say even the local grocery stores at the time labeled it as "hamburger" and not "ground beef" or "ground chuck".
I am 70, live in Texas, and call "ground beef" hamburger. Funny thing, you made a "Boy Scout Dinner". It's something my husband made when he was a Scout and out camping. Made me smile as all the ingredients were the same, except the milk, and it was roasted wrapped in tinfoil over hot coals in the campfire.
My daddy made this for us all the time. No milk, but a couple of packs of onion soup mix and some canned peas poured in and you had a tasty tasty meal.
Looks like a good basic recipe. I bet if you mixed a can of mushroom soup to the milk and grated some cheese over it before cooking it would be really good. When I was a kid in the 70’s my cousins made mock duck when they invited us for supper. I still remember that meal. 😮
My grandma was born in 1921 in Pennsylvania and definitely still called it hamburger in the 80s and 90s. I'm pretty sure her 90 year old sister in law still uses the term, she's also from PA.
Growing up in Detroit it was called hamburger in the grocery stores and it is what we ate too. You might see packages of ground chuck next to packages of ground hamburger, which I understood to simply have a higher fat content than ground chuck or ground round that was sold and it was significantly cheeper too. When I moved 2 hours north to Bay City in the 90s, they called it hamburg. "We went to McDonald's for hamburgs last night." Same state, two different words for the same thing. The smaller grocery stores sold ground hamburg meat. I never could get used to that. Also, in Michigan we say "going to the grocery store" or "going to the store." I've noticed writers of movies and TV shows taking place in Michigan, always get it wrong, when they say "going to the supermarket"or " going to the market". I have never heard anyone say "going to the market" in Michigan. That drives me crazy.
Otn Manitoba , Canada (Winnipeg, Gimli) we ' go to town " or ' go to the store" too and everywhere, here understands what you mean. Unless it's Costco! 😂
I grew up in Michigan (mother was from California). We always called it Hamburger. Over time, I started to think of Hamburger as having a higher fat content than, say, ground chuck, or ground sirloin, but a higher meat content than the "soy burger" we started buying in the early '70s, when inflation was high, and the cost of meat went up (some percentage of was soy added to the beef to extend it, and it came in 3 lb logs).
My parents were older (1934, 1949) and I do remember growing up with hamburger, also growing up we would get all diff varieties of ground beef, ground chuck was the main thing they would get.
I'm in Texas. My mother's side of the family made a dish similar to this, except they added a layer of stewed tomatoes and didn't add milk and butter at the end. It was delicious! We called it simply "A Layer o' This & a Layer o' That". And for the record, I grew up calling it "hamburger meat".
Nice one. I did variations on this. My mum used to call it Raw Fry. And, when times got hard, the minced beef or lamb was left out. A plate of crispy, slow roasted thinly sliced potato and onions and Veg always went down very well. And there were always the crispy potatoes that stuck to the pan were wonderful.
"If it weren't for history everything would happen at once; if it weren't for geography everything would happen to me." This is my favourite toilet stall graffiti, which I read in a stall at the By The Way Cafe at Bloor and Brunswick in Toronto in the 1990s. Your reference to time and geography brought it to mind once again. I am a Geographer, so reference to time and space always delight me.
Here in western New England, it’s still homburg. Salt, pepper, butter and onions were the primary seasonings of my childhood too. Love your background info. Thanks, Glen.
Spices, used "back in the day": who still uses mace? And it's always been there! Great explatation also on the change of meanings in the english language! Btw: I'm located in the village of Tangstedt. Very close to the city of Hamburg, Germany 😁 My favourite spice mix for fries is a recipe from a guy, who used 3g of mace in his mix. And I thought: "this guy must have been experimenting!" Let's talk about an easy rider (I have a motorbike). If one would call me an easy rider, I'd have to ask back: "did you just call my wife a whore?" 'Cause that was the meaning of it, before the film came out: the partner of a whore. He got for free, what others had to pay for. He got: "the easy ride". I'm old. And I always liked to understand lyrics and stuff. Story is: these guys are dealing drugs. That is, how they so effortlessly make this much money. To buy these amazing bikes (btw: the one Peter Fonda rides is famous for handeling like crap, haha!) and unlike the hard working majority, they can have it all. The whore is America. The freedom and opportunities it offers: they've got it for free. Tell me: am I the only one to remember?
Very interesting observation! I find German colloquialisms fascinating (I lived in Stuttgart for 8 years but never spoke/understood much more than Kuche Deutsch (kitchen German) just enough to do the grocery shopping, take the Bahn into the city, and order a drink/meal.
I live in Ohio, I grew up calling ground beef hamburg as well, so did my husband so im sure its a generational thing as well as geographical, because I lived in Connecticut for sometime in the 90's and I recall my stepmom called it ground beef.
Greetings, Sunday morning folks! Where I grew up in Nebraska, we bought and cooked with hamburger The Better Homes & Gardens cookbook (red and white plaid ring binder cover) had a cottage pie recipe called Hamburger Pie, a childhood favorite.
NW Ontario. Raised in Sault Ste. Marie. We call it ground meat. We rarely, if ever, buy beef, typically it's pork, moose, deer, elk and bison. Love Julie's sweater! Gorgeous!
This reminds me of a casserole that I used to make not long after I got married. Yes, it was very economical. Of course one of the reasons for that was the sparsity of flavorings that you mentioned. Nevertheless, we enjoyed it.
Spend time online and you see how English moves and changes. Memes? That is lingual change in action. What word meme sticks around will eventually become part of the English language. Remember, "LOL" is officially in the dictionary, and not just Urban Dictionary, but the big ones like Oxford Dictionary. I see Urban Dictionary as the first base for memes to reach, while Oxford is Home Run.
In Australia it's never been Hamburg or Hamburger (steak) It's never even been ground beef. It has always been called minced beef, or more colloquially just Mince. I will go to the butcher and ask for 1Kg of Mince, and I will get what you commonly call 2lb of ground beef
Ground beef and hamburger have always been interchangable to me, I've lived or worked all across the US and several places in western Canada. On a hunch I just flipped through a community cookbook from a church from 2009 in my hometown in Central Illinois. I found essentially same recipe, hamburger, potatoes, onions, butter, milk with just salt & pepper for seasoning titled "Easy Hamburger Casserole".
my mom made Au gratan potatoes.. brother refused to even try them.. 1 grandma made scalloped potatoes other made cheesy potatoes... he couldn't get enough of those.. he apparently thought mom was making All-Rotten potatoes...😂 he is in charge of fire safety at nuclear power plants... sleep well.. lol
Julie's comment was apt. This is a deconstructed cottage pie. Since my family has enjoyed for years what we call "camp potatoes" (which is everything here layered except the hamburger and milk), we would love this. This could be cooked in tin foil on a fire or on a barbeque. Thanks again for the method.
Here in Kansas, I grew up with my family calling it burger (ground beef is the new universal NA term.) Only exception would be is if the cut of beef that was ground was specific, such as ground chuck or sirloin. Hamburg steak for us was called chopped steak (still common to use that term). Also the dish you’ve made is still commonly found down here - known by several names like campfire steak or campfire potatoes or campfire burger or cowboy steak, etc. As the name implies, easily cooked on a fire or grill in a suitable container like a Dutch Oven or foil pouch. Also it’d usually be simple, singular, layering of potatoes, onion, and topped by the meat. Never heard it called escalloped hamburg, and would never consider it to be a casserole.
Working at a meat market in small town Michigan I have customers from all age ranges refer to it as burger, Hamburg, hamburger, hamburger meat, ground beef, or by it's defining cut ("a pound of chuck, round, sirloin", etc) and it's interesting to see the overlap from generations too. It's not just seniors saying Hamburg but what would be their kids etc. We adopt a lot of the language of our parents and family and that's no more apparent than in a meat market.
I watched a TH-cam video made by a woman from Germany and she compared the German spoken by the Amish and a one spoken in Texas to what is spoken now in Germany. She wanted to see how much she could understand so English is not the only language that changed in time. I think you should have added garlic to it.
In my mid 20s, raised in Florida, “ground beef” has definitely been the dominant term in my lifetime but “hamburger meat” (as opposed to a hamburger patty) is still used in conversation, though I can’t remember the last time I saw a grocery store advertise ground beef as “hamburger.” “Hamburg” on the other hand is totally new to me. I have heard the term “hamburger steak” alot in my life, but only in anime. Seems to be what they call Salisbury steak in Japan, they even say the words “hamburger steak” in English.
My mother aunts and nana called it ground steak. The end product was hamburgers, meatballs, shepherd's pie, whatever. I moved elsewhere and it was just referred to as hamburg. Same stuff different name. We were from NYC, moved to CT.
My grandmother (Scottish decent, also) cooked through the depression era and she always called it hamburg. I don't think she ever lost the thriftiness of having to live through that time. Nothing ever wasted. She even saved tin foil, wiped off wax paper for second sandwich wraps, etc 😊😊
Currently in Colorado, but grew up in southern Wisconsin and northern Illinois - hamburger or hamburger meat was what it was called when I was growing up. Now ground beef is the term I hear most but I havent encountered anyone who doesn't know what I mean if.i call it hamburger!
I also grew up in Southern Ontario and remember my parents, who would be over 100, refer to it as hamburg meat. We also didn't do spices. My father's family was convinced that spices would give us ulcers. Horseradish was ok. That was probably because the Woodman's horseradish farm was his backyard when he was a kid.
I live in the desert southwest of the United States, and my mother and grandmother both used the terms ground beef and hamburger interchangeably. FYI: My grandmother was born in 1906, and my mother was born in 1934.
I’m 70 and from the US South. I used to call it hamburger meat, but have shifted to ground meat. As for spices, I grew up with salt and pepper and still use pretty much just that unless it’s something Tex-Mex.
I love that the phone numbers had 1 or 2 digits. I remember my grandmother’s phone number in a small Massachusetts town, had 4 digits. No need to dial the exchange if you wanted to contact someone in the area.
My mother in law, who is 82 and grew up on a farm near Guelph, Ontario, always says "hamburg". My husband continues the tradition, which I find cute. I myself belong to the "ground beef" school of thought. Amazingly, we all get along ;)
I grew up in southern MN, and my dad would say hamburg, but he was from Erie, PA. Your show is the only other place I've heard someone call it that, which makes me think it's regional to that eastern Great Lakes area.
I am from Eastern North Carolina, my family and I have always used hamburger synonymously with ground beef. In fact, we would never use “ground beef” unless we were translating ourselves to people not from around here. We even shorten it to just “burger”. As in “picking up a pound of burger from the store.”
I grew up in western NC and my parents used "hamburger" to refer to "ground beef". I can't speak for other families but I think this is still common here.
“Mémère”! I never called my grand-mother that (although it’s a common French Canadian thing) but my American cousins did call her that, and “pépère” for my grand-father. I love seeing the word in your comment.
@@l.c.6282that custom of calling grandparents by Mémère and Pépère seems to be dwindling, especially since the awareness from the internet that there are other terms being used. I think anyway
The best Peaches I've ever had in my life were in Port Jalousie Ontario. Absolutely amazing. The size of grapefruits, perfectly ripe, sweet, juicy, intense Peach flavor, just perfect, they were at a company subsidized cafeteria for dock workers. Circa 1977.
Do you mean Port Dalhousie? It is (now) part of St. Catharines, Ontario, and on the edge of Lake Ontario. Niagara does have The Best Peaches! No locally grown grapefruit though. That would be imported.
You brought back memories of my mom!! She had a recipe she called "burger rice stew"... ground beef with diced carrots and peas, served on a bed of rice. As kids we would drown it in ketchup.
Born in 1972 in Michigan. To me, it’s always hamburg. I buy hamburg buns, eat cheeseburgs, etc. This has changed with younger generations. My husband, who grew up in Florida, was baffled by this usage when we got together. 😂
SO I grew up in the 40's/50's in a small farming community in Southern Ontario that my father and Grandfather did all their own butchering. We always called our "ground beef" hamburg. Salt and onions were the queen of the kitchen. Thank you so much Glen for bringing back a wee bit of my childhood.
"Hamburger Helper" is in present day parlance, "Ground Beef Glow Up" 🙂
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Winner, winner, Hamburg dinner
Was just coming to say this.
My family still regularly calls it "hamburger" instead of "ground beef." I don't think I've really picked up on that, but I definitely know that my parents used that terminology (mom from Chicago. Dad from Sioux Falls, for placement purposes).
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True, we called it that because everybody did: even marketing.
I'm 60 and grew up in the south... we called it either 'hamburger' or 'ground beef' interchangeably.
My dad was a butcher in New Jersey and he referred to it the same way.
Maybe in your neck of the woods. I'm 52 and have only ever lived in Georgia and North Carolina. Calling ground beef "hamburger" always seemed like a thing only Yankees did.
@@JimCofer Nope... lots of *Rednecks* around here call it hamburger as well. And the South isn't limited to just GA and North Cackalacky.
Just various dialects by regions.
I’m 64. My parents came from Miami Florida and used the terms interchangeably. My wife and I both grew up in the mid antlantic and do the same thing.
Texas girl here and it was ground meat or hamburger. Never caused confusion. I'm and in California now and I can still get "hamburger" meat at the meat market.
I'm an Air Force Brat. Grew up all over the US and (in the early 50s) Canada, too. Hamburger has been my go-to term for ground beef, and was pretty much everywhere I lived.
Same here... Air Force brat... Dad was stationed at Ramore, Ontario at the radar station in '53-'55 and lived in Matheson I presume on Railway St as we rented the old Train Station... originally from Maine and always called it hamburger... Dad was originally stationed at Dow AFB late 40's early 50's...
'Hamburg' wasn't always just beef... unscrupulous storekeepers back in the day when there were actual butchers in the stores, might just toss in all the days off cuts with the beef scrap and maybe some chuck.m @@t.c.2776
This hamburg discussion reminds me of Upton Sinclair's novel The Jungle.
Growing up in the Texas when we went to the store it was something along the lines of " grab me some hamburger, I'm making { spaghetti, meatloaf, etc. ...} " but we knew what was meant.
My mom’s family was from Pennsylvania and that is how she referred to ground beef, as well.
Yeah, we’d say something along those lines… hamburger meat. My mom was from Ohio/West Virginia area.
Some here in Illinois
Same in my area of West Virginia
My family in Minnesota usually just called it burger.
The shopping list would say, "2# burger."
Good morning 🙏
I'm from Newfoundland. I'm in my early 40s. I know ground beef as hamburger meat l...they're interchangeable to me.
I also know soft serve icecream as custard cones. I once asked the server at McDonald's for a custard cone, and he looked at me like I had 2 heads haha! It must be a generational thing lol
I grew up in California, my parents in Minnesota and New York. Like many here, I knew and call it hamburger. Sometimes I’ll think to myself “burger meat”.
I very much enjoy your history lessons. I may not care for what you’re making, but I do enjoy the history. 🌼
PS: I’m glad I did not grow up eat “Healthful Sandwiches”. As my mother used to say; “Ish!”
Lived in England for awhile, so I often add it to my shopping list as “mince”. It’s always interesting to hear different words for things in different countries, but it’s amazing how words pop up in use from different areas. Sometimes it’s because they moved from the same area, but other times it’s a different reason. Fun to find, that’s for sure.
Strictly, 'minced (meat)', but language is fluid. :)
@@DickHolman everyone I know calls ground beef “mince”. Funnily I suspect most British people would probably think of “sweet meats” if you said “minced meat”
My mother (born in 1920 in Leicestershire UK) would make a dish she called mince which was essentially a ground beef stew. She would serve it with dumplings made from Bisquick and steamed on top of the mince. To our unsophisticated palates, it was delicious!
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It was my job to wind the handle on the mincer for Mum. :)
In New Zealand we call it "mince" as well.
Growing up in Oregon, if you were sent to the store for “hamburger” (singular) it meant ground beef. If it was plural or “a hamburger”, that meant the formed hamburger patties. My family came from the East Coast of the US, and my grandmother definitely referred to ground beef as “Hamburg”. :)
Southwest Ohio here. You can definitely use hamburger to refer to ground beef. Hamburg would probably get you some looks.
The story I heard from my etymology professor in college was : Steak was more of a luxury item in Europe, especially Germany, in the 17th and 18th century. (Refrigerated shipping didn't start until the later part of 19th century.) Ground or minced beef was somewhat more affordable, so thrifty folks would take ground beef, season it and make a steak-sized patty. When the German settlers got to North America, they brought their Hamburg steak with them. Since beef was more affordable here, it became a popular dish. Someone realized sandwich-sized portions could be sold cheaply to mill and factory workers looking for a cheap meal, and hamburgers came to be.
Great comment to add my 2cts to as an European person and half German.
'Ground meat' is called 'Gehacktes' or chopped meat. Cheap Dutch beef meat is called 'German Beefsteak' which is lean beef trims chopped to mince and pressed or formed into a patty.
It therefore would not be far off to say that the German influence of settlers preparing meat leftovers specifically cut to the tiniest shreds and later became ground beef to be named Hamburger as the ingredient to a beef patty...
Lived in New Hampshire and grew up saying Hamburg. My grandfather's family was from Nova Scotia and moved to Maine before he was born and my grandmother was from Massachusets. My husband is from Ohio and calls it ground beef. Not sure of his family history. Thank you for the amazing trip down memory lane with the Sunday Cook Book show.
I’m from Kentucky and I have always used hamburger.
I have come across a large portion of people who call it "Hamburger meat", including my daughter. I think she picked that up in NC. But people in KY call it that too. I usually call it hamburger.
I love the way Glen gives us a history lesson with each of his old cookbook shows. I have learned so much from watching. Especially about spices & sugars that are not regional to our area. Quebecois French also uses hamberger in place of ground beef in thier terminoligy.
Hamburger it was/is.
There is one cookbook I want VERY much? A church cookbook from around 1970. My gf has it. In there is a whole pile of recipies from my Relatives! Aunts, Grandmother, Cousins, etc. I never saw it, until she let me see it, last year! It was like going back in Time to my 4yr old Time, when we lived in that tiny "Station".
I hope you at least make copies..
Here in Sweden "hamburger meat" has ended up meaning horse meat. Stores would sell ground beef, ground pork, and "hamburger". It was a generic term for ground meat, but the generic term wasn't really used for beef or pork.
It was the "mystery meat".
I grew up in the 50's in LA California, and ground horsemeat was common in butcher shops.
Very interesting!
I'm from North Dakota. I grew up not too far away from Grafton, ND. (Seeing a cookbook on your channel from my home region was really awesome!) Anyway, if you said, "hamburger" as singular, it means ground beef, but hamburgers as plural, it refers to, well, hamburgers. But I've never heard it referred to as "hamburg."
Mail order was the way to shop for many things. I spent alot of time leafing through the 2.5 inch thick Sears&Roebuck catalog.
As a child the Christmas Sears catalogue was especially exciting..so many goodies..
I worked for Sears Catalog in the late 70's taking orders over the phone.
That Wish Book was a house staple for generations.
@@janetmoore1124 Yes..the Wish book..I forgot the name☺️
My family didn't buy things mail order, but every other week my parents would visit our former neighbors, who had moved about 20 miles away, and I was brought along. They played cards and I had to entertain myself. Usually I read or watched TV, but I really loved looking through their Spiegel catalogue. Later on, in college, and without a car, I ordered a lot of items from the Sears & Roebuck's catalogue because they would ship it to my dorm.
Glen & Friends Cooking's latest episode of the Old Cookbook Show. Glen takes us on a journey back to 1936 with a recreation of the Escalloped Hamburg recipe from the "Golden Jubilee Recipes 1886 to 1936" cookbook, courtesy of the Ladies Aid Society of the Poplar Hill Church of Christ in Ontario.
Glen begins the episode by providing historical context, giving us insight into the community church cookbook and its significance in preserving culinary traditions of the era. The focus on baking and sweets, alongside glimpses into local businesses, sets the stage for a delightful culinary adventure.
The recipe itself, Escalloped Hamburg, is simple yet intriguing. Glen meticulously layers hamburg steak with thin slices of raw potatoes and finely chopped onions, seasoned with salt and pepper, and dotted with butter. The alternating layers build anticipation for the final dish.
As Glen expertly assembles the ingredients, his attention to detail and passion for historical cooking shines through. The addition of milk to moisten the dish before baking adds a comforting touch, reminiscent of home-cooked meals from yesteryears.
Once the Escalloped Hamburg is assembled, Glen guides us through the baking process, emphasizing the importance of a moderately hot oven for optimal results. The anticipation builds as the aroma fills the kitchen, transporting us back to rural Ontario in the 1930s.
Upon tasting the finished dish, Glen's & Julia's enthusiasm is palpable. The combination of tender hamburg steak, perfectly cooked potatoes, and onions infused with buttery goodness evokes nostalgia for simpler times. The flavors harmonize beautifully, showcasing the culinary prowess of 1930s home cooks.
In conclusion, Glen & Friends Cooking's recreation of the Escalloped Hamburg recipe is a testament to the enduring appeal of vintage cooking. Through meticulous research and culinary skill, Glen brings history to life, inviting us to savor the flavors of a bygone era. Whether you're a history buff or a food enthusiast, this episode is sure to captivate and inspire.
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Hey Glen, here in south central Kentucky its always been hamburger meat if you are buying it at the grocery. Thanks for all the great content.
Thanks Glen. My Dad still calls it Hamburg. He’s 89. ✌🏻😊
Hi Glen. I'm in my late 50's and grew up in Metro Detroit. It's hamburger here. I look forward to your videos. I watch with my laptop and my wife likes to look over my shoulder. She can't hear the audio because I'm listening with my Airpods, but she'll make comments like, "That looks good" and "That's interesting." My favorite one comes during the Old Cookbook Show, "Oh, I don't think she liked that." Thanks to You and Julie for being entertaining.
Hello from Wisconsin. My grandfather was a second generation American from a German family. He and my grandmother owned a small grocery store in the '60s and '70s where he was a butcher. They always called ground beef "hamburger", and so I grew up with everybody in my family calling it hamburger. I still call it that. It's very common here.
Also, regarding spices, I always wondered why my mother and both grandmothers seasoned everything with just butter, salt and pepper when there is a world of spices. And then I bought a very old cookbook in an antique store that's in German and was published in Milwaukee, WI. It is a cookbook for German immigrants to Wisconsin from around the turn of the last century. Very interesting. And the recipes recommend seasoning everything with butter, salt and pepper. So now I know. It's a very old cultural thing.
yep. I remember my grandpa going to the store to "pick up some hamburger" for my grandma. I want to say even the local grocery stores at the time labeled it as "hamburger" and not "ground beef" or "ground chuck".
I am 70, live in Texas, and call "ground beef" hamburger. Funny thing, you made a "Boy Scout Dinner". It's something my husband made when he was a Scout and out camping. Made me smile as all the ingredients were the same, except the milk, and it was roasted wrapped in tinfoil over hot coals in the campfire.
My daddy made this for us all the time. No milk, but a couple of packs of onion soup mix and some canned peas poured in and you had a tasty tasty meal.
Looks like a good basic recipe. I bet if you mixed a can of mushroom soup to the milk and grated some cheese over it before cooking it would be really good. When I was a kid in the 70’s my cousins made mock duck when they invited us for supper. I still remember that meal. 😮
And a couple of shakes of Worchestershire sauce.
@@dianebourne6297 Yes, Worcestershire sauce was exactly what I was thinking too!
A can of mushroom soup was the glue that made up many of my casserole favs.
My grandma was born in 1921 in Pennsylvania and definitely still called it hamburger in the 80s and 90s. I'm pretty sure her 90 year old sister in law still uses the term, she's also from PA.
Will I enjoy the old recipes, what I love is you placing it all into context. Keep up the excellent work
In south Africa we call it "mince" and if its "ground beef" its a cheap version with soya mixed in.
Growing up in Detroit it was called hamburger in the grocery stores and it is what we ate too. You might see packages of ground chuck next to packages of ground hamburger, which I understood to simply have a higher fat content than ground chuck or ground round that was sold and it was significantly cheeper too. When I moved 2 hours north to Bay City in the 90s, they called it hamburg. "We went to McDonald's for hamburgs last night." Same state, two different words for the same thing. The smaller grocery stores sold ground hamburg meat. I never could get used to that. Also, in Michigan we say "going to the grocery store" or "going to the store." I've noticed writers of movies and TV shows taking place in Michigan, always get it wrong, when they say "going to the supermarket"or " going to the market". I have never heard anyone say "going to the market" in Michigan. That drives me crazy.
Otn Manitoba , Canada (Winnipeg, Gimli) we ' go to town " or ' go to the store" too and everywhere, here understands what you mean. Unless it's Costco! 😂
I grew up in Michigan (mother was from California). We always called it Hamburger. Over time, I started to think of Hamburger as having a higher fat content than, say, ground chuck, or ground sirloin, but a higher meat content than the "soy burger" we started buying in the early '70s, when inflation was high, and the cost of meat went up (some percentage of was soy added to the beef to extend it, and it came in 3 lb logs).
My parents were older (1934, 1949) and I do remember growing up with hamburger, also growing up we would get all diff varieties of ground beef, ground chuck was the main thing they would get.
I'm in Texas. My mother's side of the family made a dish similar to this, except they added a layer of stewed tomatoes and didn't add milk and butter at the end. It was delicious! We called it simply "A Layer o' This & a Layer o' That". And for the record, I grew up calling it "hamburger meat".
Nice one. I did variations on this. My mum used to call it Raw Fry. And, when times got hard, the minced beef or lamb was left out. A plate of crispy, slow roasted thinly sliced potato and onions and Veg always went down very well. And there were always the crispy potatoes that stuck to the pan were wonderful.
That’s an interesting reference. What area is your family from?
Plymouth, Devon. In the UK.
I’m from West Virginia and I say hamburger.
"If it weren't for history everything would happen at once; if it weren't for geography everything would happen to me."
This is my favourite toilet stall graffiti, which I read in a stall at the By The Way Cafe at Bloor and Brunswick in Toronto in the 1990s. Your reference to time and geography brought it to mind once again. I am a Geographer, so reference to time and space always delight me.
Just making this Added cheese instead of milk used my instant pot
In Minnesota it’s hot dish and growing up in the 70sit was hamburger, now it’s ground beef in ads but I still write hamburger on the grocery list
Here in western New England, it’s still homburg. Salt, pepper, butter and onions were the primary seasonings of my childhood too. Love your background info. Thanks, Glen.
I'm originally from Hamilton. My mom's in her 70s and says hamburg for both ground beef and hamburgers. I'm in my 40's and say ground beef and burger.
Spices, used "back in the day": who still uses mace? And it's always been there! Great explatation also on the change of meanings in the english language!
Btw: I'm located in the village of Tangstedt. Very close to the city of Hamburg, Germany 😁
My favourite spice mix for fries is a recipe from a guy, who used 3g of mace in his mix. And I thought: "this guy must have been experimenting!"
Let's talk about an easy rider (I have a motorbike). If one would call me an easy rider, I'd have to ask back: "did you just call my wife a whore?"
'Cause that was the meaning of it, before the film came out: the partner of a whore. He got for free, what others had to pay for. He got: "the easy ride".
I'm old. And I always liked to understand lyrics and stuff. Story is: these guys are dealing drugs. That is, how they so effortlessly make this much money. To buy these amazing bikes (btw: the one Peter Fonda rides is famous for handeling like crap, haha!) and unlike the hard working majority, they can have it all. The whore is America. The freedom and opportunities it offers: they've got it for free.
Tell me: am I the only one to remember?
Very interesting observation! I find German colloquialisms fascinating (I lived in Stuttgart for 8 years but never spoke/understood much more than Kuche Deutsch (kitchen German) just enough to do the grocery shopping, take the Bahn into the city, and order a drink/meal.
I love simple recipes like this! We always called (and still do) ground beef hamburg or hamburger.
I live in Ohio, I grew up calling ground beef hamburg as well, so did my husband so im sure its a generational thing as well as geographical, because I lived in Connecticut for sometime in the 90's and I recall my stepmom called it ground beef.
Greetings, Sunday morning folks! Where I grew up in Nebraska, we bought and cooked with hamburger The Better Homes & Gardens cookbook (red and white plaid ring binder cover) had a cottage pie recipe called Hamburger Pie, a childhood favorite.
That was an excellent cookbook back in the 70's.
Essentially what Mom used to make every two weeks or so going on 60 years ago from Tennessee....
Grew up in Seattle & called it ground beef.
We call it chopped meat like my mother (b. 1928) and grandmother (b. 1900) did here in NY. Great videos as always.
My mother's family called it chopped meat too. Her father had a butcher shop in a suburb of NYC.
Yes! Was looking for the NYC/Westchester County people.
It sort of comes out like, "chop meat," though🙂
My mom called ground beef hamburg. Italian ancestry southeastern PA US
NW Ontario. Raised in Sault Ste. Marie. We call it ground meat. We rarely, if ever, buy beef, typically it's pork, moose, deer, elk and bison. Love Julie's sweater! Gorgeous!
Growing up in the seventies here in Ohio USA we called it hamburger. Today ground beef.
63 years old from Massachusetts. Hamburg is the meat. A hamburger is the sandwich. Unless you're on a diet, you can have a hamburger without bread.
I’m from kentucky. We always just called it hamburger also.
This reminds me of a casserole that I used to make not long after I got married. Yes, it was very economical. Of course one of the reasons for that was the sparsity of flavorings that you mentioned. Nevertheless, we enjoyed it.
Spend time online and you see how English moves and changes. Memes? That is lingual change in action. What word meme sticks around will eventually become part of the English language. Remember, "LOL" is officially in the dictionary, and not just Urban Dictionary, but the big ones like Oxford Dictionary. I see Urban Dictionary as the first base for memes to reach, while Oxford is Home Run.
In Australia it's never been Hamburg or Hamburger (steak)
It's never even been ground beef.
It has always been called minced beef, or more colloquially just Mince. I will go to the butcher and ask for 1Kg of Mince, and I will get what you commonly call 2lb of ground beef
Ground beef and hamburger have always been interchangable to me, I've lived or worked all across the US and several places in western Canada. On a hunch I just flipped through a community cookbook from a church from 2009 in my hometown in Central Illinois. I found essentially same recipe, hamburger, potatoes, onions, butter, milk with just salt & pepper for seasoning titled "Easy Hamburger Casserole".
my mom made Au gratan potatoes.. brother refused to even try them.. 1 grandma made scalloped potatoes other made cheesy potatoes... he couldn't get enough of those.. he apparently thought mom was making All-Rotten potatoes...😂 he is in charge of fire safety at nuclear power plants... sleep well.. lol
Julie's comment was apt. This is a deconstructed cottage pie. Since my family has enjoyed for years what we call "camp potatoes" (which is everything here layered except the hamburger and milk), we would love this. This could be cooked in tin foil on a fire or on a barbeque. Thanks again for the method.
Here in Kansas, I grew up with my family calling it burger (ground beef is the new universal NA term.) Only exception would be is if the cut of beef that was ground was specific, such as ground chuck or sirloin. Hamburg steak for us was called chopped steak (still common to use that term). Also the dish you’ve made is still commonly found down here - known by several names like campfire steak or campfire potatoes or campfire burger or cowboy steak, etc. As the name implies, easily cooked on a fire or grill in a suitable container like a Dutch Oven or foil pouch. Also it’d usually be simple, singular, layering of potatoes, onion, and topped by the meat. Never heard it called escalloped hamburg, and would never consider it to be a casserole.
Working at a meat market in small town Michigan I have customers from all age ranges refer to it as burger, Hamburg, hamburger, hamburger meat, ground beef, or by it's defining cut ("a pound of chuck, round, sirloin", etc) and it's interesting to see the overlap from generations too. It's not just seniors saying Hamburg but what would be their kids etc. We adopt a lot of the language of our parents and family and that's no more apparent than in a meat market.
I watched a TH-cam video made by a woman from Germany and she compared the German spoken by the Amish and a one spoken in Texas to what is spoken now in Germany. She wanted to see how much she could understand so English is not the only language that changed in time. I think you should have added garlic to it.
Always went to the grocery store to pick up some hamburger. Grew up in ohio, scalloped potatoes was served as a side dish a lot.
In my mid 20s, raised in Florida, “ground beef” has definitely been the dominant term in my lifetime but “hamburger meat” (as opposed to a hamburger patty) is still used in conversation, though I can’t remember the last time I saw a grocery store advertise ground beef as “hamburger.” “Hamburg” on the other hand is totally new to me. I have heard the term “hamburger steak” alot in my life, but only in anime. Seems to be what they call Salisbury steak in Japan, they even say the words “hamburger steak” in English.
I look forward to watching your history lesson of recipes!
Thank you for all you do! Love the videos!
I grew up in Missouri and we always called it “hamburger”, as in “would you thaw some hamburger tonight? I’m going to make a meatloaf”.
I'm from Gananoque, Ontario and we always said hamburger.
My mother aunts and nana called it ground steak. The end product was hamburgers, meatballs, shepherd's pie, whatever. I moved elsewhere and it was just referred to as hamburg. Same stuff different name. We were from NYC, moved to CT.
My grandmother (Scottish decent, also) cooked through the depression era and she always called it hamburg. I don't think she ever lost the thriftiness of having to live through that time. Nothing ever wasted. She even saved tin foil, wiped off wax paper for second sandwich wraps, etc 😊😊
Glen I'm from Connecticut, US and me and my family have always called it hamburger.
Was raised in rural Oklahoma. We called it ground beef.
Hii Glen, Poplar Hill is to the north west of London Ontario. I remember going to family picnics there in the 1950"s. Love your show.
Currently in Colorado, but grew up in southern Wisconsin and northern Illinois - hamburger or hamburger meat was what it was called when I was growing up. Now ground beef is the term I hear most but I havent encountered anyone who doesn't know what I mean if.i call it hamburger!
I also grew up in Southern Ontario and remember my parents, who would be over 100, refer to it as hamburg meat. We also didn't do spices. My father's family was convinced that spices would give us ulcers. Horseradish was ok. That was probably because the Woodman's horseradish farm was his backyard when he was a kid.
This is my grandma's (born 1905) recipe for escalloped ham 🥰
I live in the desert southwest of the United States, and my mother and grandmother both used the terms ground beef and hamburger interchangeably. FYI: My grandmother was born in 1906, and my mother was born in 1934.
I’m 70 and from the US South. I used to call it hamburger meat, but have shifted to ground meat. As for spices, I grew up with salt and pepper and still use pretty much just that unless it’s something Tex-Mex.
I love that the phone numbers had 1 or 2 digits. I remember my grandmother’s phone number in a small Massachusetts town, had 4 digits. No need to dial the exchange if you wanted to contact someone in the area.
I am a little North West of Toronto and still put hamburger on my grocery list.
I’m from Iowa. We still call it hamburger. As a kid I was told in school we called it that because it started in Hamburg.
My mother in law, who is 82 and grew up on a farm near Guelph, Ontario, always says "hamburg". My husband continues the tradition, which I find cute. I myself belong to the "ground beef" school of thought. Amazingly, we all get along ;)
From Maine, it's hamburger. My dad used to make egg gravy and mashed potatoes, basically white sauce with sliced hard boiled eggs, really good.
I grew up in southern MN, and my dad would say hamburg, but he was from Erie, PA. Your show is the only other place I've heard someone call it that, which makes me think it's regional to that eastern Great Lakes area.
My mom definitely calls it hamburg! She just turned 84 last week, and lived all her life in western Pennsylvania
Kentucky/ Tennessee “hamburger meat”
Growing up in the fifties we always called it hamburger as well. I still to this day say I'm going to the grocery for hamburger.
I'm 30 years old, from Ohio in the U.S.
My grandmother called it hamburg. Thanks for making me think of my grandma, Glen. ❤
Love your videos.
I am from Eastern North Carolina, my family and I have always used hamburger synonymously with ground beef. In fact, we would never use “ground beef” unless we were translating ourselves to people not from around here. We even shorten it to just “burger”. As in “picking up a pound of burger from the store.”
Emmm, Hamburger Helper is a thing yea?
I grew up in western NC and my parents used "hamburger" to refer to "ground beef". I can't speak for other families but I think this is still common here.
I grew up in central (Vandalia) Illinois, in the 70’s and 80’s. My family always called ground beef “hamburger .
Hearing “hamburg” again makes me smile; that’s what my Memere called it when I’d visit her in “Little Canada” in Lowell, Mass.
“Mémère”! I never called my grand-mother that (although it’s a common French Canadian thing) but my American cousins did call her that, and “pépère” for my grand-father. I love seeing the word in your comment.
@@l.c.6282that custom of calling grandparents by Mémère and Pépère seems to be dwindling, especially since the awareness from the internet that there are other terms being used. I think anyway
😂😂 I love the explanation of ordering from a catalog! Makes me feel ancient, but I loved it!
Growing up in Iowa, and certainly still in my family, it's hamburger.
I love salt and pepper as the main seasonings. Along with onions, celery, and carrots there are a plethora of dishes you can make.
I love the food history with your recipes, Glen.
The best Peaches I've ever had in my life were in Port Jalousie Ontario.
Absolutely amazing. The size of grapefruits, perfectly ripe, sweet, juicy, intense Peach flavor, just perfect, they were at a company subsidized cafeteria for dock workers. Circa 1977.
Do you mean Port Dalhousie? It is (now) part of St. Catharines, Ontario, and on the edge of Lake Ontario. Niagara does have The Best Peaches! No locally grown grapefruit though. That would be imported.
Good morning friend. It’s the same here in West Virginia. All my friends and cousins say “hamburger” instead of ground beef.
You brought back memories of my mom!! She had a recipe she called "burger rice stew"... ground beef with diced carrots and peas, served on a bed of rice. As kids we would drown it in ketchup.
Born in 1972 in Michigan. To me, it’s always hamburg. I buy hamburg buns, eat cheeseburgs, etc. This has changed with younger generations. My husband, who grew up in Florida, was baffled by this usage when we got together. 😂
SO I grew up in the 40's/50's in a small farming community in Southern Ontario that my father and Grandfather did all their own butchering. We always called our "ground beef" hamburg. Salt and onions were the queen of the kitchen. Thank you so much Glen for bringing back a wee bit of my childhood.
I grew up next door to my mom’s family’s dairy farm. When we butchered in the winter, we labeled the packages HB for hamburger.