"Ah yes, Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him." The rest of the smash team claps as Sakurai proves once more that he is playing 4d chess while we are playing checkers
Akantorz if you've ever read the book series called the Demonata(i think thats the name haven't read it in a long time) sakurai would actually be playing the chess game in that book where the two players play on 5 chessboards and can only use their turn on a single board (normal chess but you have to decide what board to use your turn on) and win a total of 3 of the boards. This chess game in particular is played by a demon lord who likes to makes deals with people on the condition that if they win they get what they want.
MrDanish ButterCookie you are my inspiration MrDanish, Im just a noob in Puerto Rico but I will try my best and hopefully one day get to show my Icies in a big tournament.
I loved this video, especially since I main ice climbers, and I've been practicing this stuff since this has come out. Can't wait to see more content. Also, curious if you think there's footstool combo potential with ice climbers. I've seen a few interesting clips of stuff, but want to know if you think that there's more things to be done with it.
This is AMAZING. I just tried it in training with the dash-jab approach. Here's a really easy 40-50% combo that I've gotten near 90% consistent in just 1/2 an hour: Dash, buffer popo's jab, buffer nana's down-b, short dash w/ popo into another down-b, buffer an up-tilt for both, then finish with buffering a jump Uair with nana. Works like a charm at just about any percentage (tested 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 120 against ridley). Against a smaller character like Pichu, I did jab, down-b, NO DASH for popo's down-b, side-b for nana, then jump to Fair for popo. Works at all percentages as well, but the timing for Fair is harder at higher percents. This is a huge breakthrough....
In January I took notes for jab desyncs' frame data out of dash and out of shield. Here it is: FROM DASH: • Works: frames 6-13 of the dash • Frames 6-8 you only need to jab and Nana won't act. • You'll need to buffer something with Nana for the desync to work frames 9-13 or else she'll jab too. • Jab hits frame 18 after initiating the dash, no matter when you input the jab. FROM SHIELD: • Works: frames 3-13 after Popo drops the shield • Desyncable from frames 3-5 without buffering Nana. • Desyncable only by buffering Nana: 6-13 • Jab hits frame 15 after dropping shield; Hits frame 16 if you jab frames 12-13 after dropping shield. • Frames 12-13 are only cancelable by specials, taunts, jumps, or rolls.
Anyone interested in learning more cool desync setups or want to pick up ice climbers should check out the character discord. Most of the tech and desyncs (like the one gimz showed in his video) are documented there first. If anyone wants to join go to the smashcords website which lists the discord’s for all of the characters with invite links.
Believe it or not, on fast fallers like fox, if you catch their jump, you can jab into side special, into side special, until you reach the other side of the stage. It’s a true combo
The shield break de-sync can still be useful for shields that aren't full health or if you catch your opponent by surprise and they don't buffer a roll
Honestly I absolutely love your videos, you are the most entertaining smash youtuberhands down. You make some great stuff. Best of luck with your ices in bracket!
Even if there is a frame 1 invincible roll, icies desynced actually have a way to punish that provided they don't roll away from you. A like for the jab desync alone, but rolling through my friends' rapid jabs and them not knowing what hit them is priceless.
I'm so glad that I was right when I was thinking about the jab thing before the end of the video. I will make sure never to get stuck in Rapidjab Hell again.
Hey, I've discovered a way to make the Icies shoot Blizzard from both sides like in Melee and Brawl. Do a down smash, inmediately roll left or right and mash down B, and the Icies shoot Blizzard from both sides
I've been waiting and seeing how this character evolves, they're really fun to play. Shame that you can't break shields, but maybe Sakurai didn't want more BS Icies tech like in previous games. But wouldn't this work on a lower health shield before the 11th frame? still might be useful???
Was literally looking for the next video to watch when he goes “Wait...” And that’s when things went from sick af to amazing! If this is a new discovery, that’s a huge deal for casuals, professionals, and everyone in between. Spread the word all!
Excellent, very well made explanations and constant tech discoveries with entertaining commentary. Also... HunterXHunter music. You just earned a subscriber dude.
Well I learned a lot this vid. I can instant sheild break my trashy friends, get out of jabs, and make icies even more fun The gims truly did wins today
Hey GimR, I was practicing with ice climbers and I noticed that while landing with an arial that if you do a quick early buffer that only nana will perform the buffered move
Great video! Definitely see icies being a top tier once people can get consistent timing and can use their kit to their full potential. As long as they don’t get nerfed
What would be hilarious is if the frame 1 roll can be punished if predicted properly when the opponent rolls during Popo's blizzard walk Nana to the other side and side smash
well, I learned two things from this video. ICs are going to be fucking nuts if they can get easy desyncs off of jab. The only time I can think of that you would really be idle in a match would be ledgetrapping. How to deal with inkling's rapid jab on shield.
So all my IC mains know how at lower percents up-tilt to up-air is true? And how at percents where up-air will kill, it no longer true combos off of up-tilt? Get a blizzard freeze, spaced correctly so you can dash-popo jab-Nana up tilt-double jump up air. Kill confirm off or blizzard and it's an alternative to the much harder to pull off and untrue (although less cheesey) footstool off of the Nana up tilt.
Hey Grimer! I love the video, but had a question about the jab desync. Is there any reason to jab->forward smash instead of jab->Down special->forward smash? I was thinking about this, because in this case you can react to if they shield or not, by either going for the smash attack or something safer. I'm new to Ice Climbers, so if there's some obvious reason why this is dumb, please inform me! Thank you so much for the video!!
Nintendo: lets make a casual fighting game Also nintendo: okay if you punch 7 / 90ths of a second into them trying to grab you their disjointed hitbox hasnt appeared yet so you can launch them at a 61 degree angle with a drag coefficient of....
Okay, that roll tech is useful, but Icies can still abuse that and read for a follow up. On other jabs it will help, but Icies still seem scary if they know you will roll.
Hope you guys enjoy the video! Been a while. I'm sorry for the delay! I'm gonna do my best to upload weekly!
Hope you guys enjoy the video! Been a while. I'm sorry for the delay! I'm gonna do my best to upload weekly!
Look at this pleb liking his own comment
it's hard to pin comments huh
how many ice climbers do you fucking have
Hope you guys enjoy the video! Been a while. I'm sorry for the delay! I'm gonna do my best to upload weekly!
Still waiting for the tech that stops nana from killing herself at 20% to be discovered
Yeah nana here feels more stupid than melee nana unless we talk about recovery in this game she actually tries to recovery
@Rique sometimes when youre at ledge nana randomlly decide to suicide and that makes me really mad
Rique I’ve also seen her airdodge back to stage and completely miss the ledge
She sometimes gets depressed. Leave her alone, she's trying her best!
Yea all this new IC desync tech is great but my Nana is dead usually lol
Respect for the using the best alt
Red and white is the best 🇨🇦
Used it in Brawl. Never forget Grey Climbers
Yellow and green bro. Maximum contrast, never lose track of popo.
White is the best alt
You have to start using this
Lowkey the last part of the video is the most helpful part. Funny too.
Huh, I actually got hyped about rolling out of jabs in 2019. Your vids never cease to amaze me dude
thank you :)
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This looks deadly.
PLEASE do a video on ice climbers!!! love your content!
To be fair the shield break can still work. Just got to catch them off guard with it.
or play with your mom who doesnt know how to play XD
Also if you already know that they know they can get out of the shield break setup then you are ready to punish that roll.
@@Carlisho As the second ice attack is made by the main climber, you wouldn't be able to punish.
@@erigor11 if you're still desynced u might be able to buffer a side b and combo off of it
Or read the roll
lmao that ending was golden 😂
That Chimera ant music when that shield breaking tech failed tho.
4:48 THIS IS INCREDIBLE
This video is a wave of emotion.
Icies have a crazy amount of tech, hope they're good characters! Always liked them.
They've always been good tbh
Icies are doodoo
multiplemeats sword character user
Some of my friends say "you play IC just so you can say you played him before everyone knew he's OP".
You're god damn right.
Step 1: Get hype for gimr's IC's combos
Step 2: Watch Video until 3:38
Step 3: Eternal depression
"Ah yes, Ladies and Gentlemen, we got him."
The rest of the smash team claps as Sakurai proves once more that he is playing 4d chess while we are playing checkers
Sakurai is playing 7D Skyrim while we playing tic tac toe.
Akantorz if you've ever read the book series called the Demonata(i think thats the name haven't read it in a long time) sakurai would actually be playing the chess game in that book where the two players play on 5 chessboards and can only use their turn on a single board (normal chess but you have to decide what board to use your turn on) and win a total of 3 of the boards.
This chess game in particular is played by a demon lord who likes to makes deals with people on the condition that if they win they get what they want.
Liked the second I heard that HxH OST
as soon as it hit I was like wait a minute i know this song lol
But which song is it?
@@Celstray Shiapouf's theme
th-cam.com/video/s7ZPdaqxsnU/w-d-xo.html
Funnily just watched and ep of HxH
didnt even notice lol
That roll tech will be useful!
Lmaooo gimr the end was so dramatic 😂😂
What a great touch with that hxh music i love you
Which song is it?
Winkie kingdom of predators
No one tell MrDanish ButterCookie or we're all dead D:
_immediately tells Danish_
He's already used it on his first ICs video lmao
Too late
@@MrDanishbuttercookie LOL, you just made my night ♥️
MrDanish ButterCookie you are my inspiration MrDanish, Im just a noob in Puerto Rico but I will try my best and hopefully one day get to show my Icies in a big tournament.
I loved this video, especially since I main ice climbers, and I've been practicing this stuff since this has come out. Can't wait to see more content. Also, curious if you think there's footstool combo potential with ice climbers. I've seen a few interesting clips of stuff, but want to know if you think that there's more things to be done with it.
I actually really appreciate that last part, feels nice watching a inkling get punished by snakes Fsmash lmao
Rip rapid jabs are now most punishable things on shield in the game
oh hey thanks for crediting me! hope more ICs abuse this 👌
TGN Epic never thought I’d find you here 👀
@@XcitaTheArceus im everywhere ICs are 👀
This was one intense emotional rollercoaster.
This is AMAZING. I just tried it in training with the dash-jab approach. Here's a really easy 40-50% combo that I've gotten near 90% consistent in just 1/2 an hour:
Dash, buffer popo's jab, buffer nana's down-b, short dash w/ popo into another down-b, buffer an up-tilt for both, then finish with buffering a jump Uair with nana. Works like a charm at just about any percentage (tested 0, 20, 40, 60, 80, 100, 120 against ridley).
Against a smaller character like Pichu, I did jab, down-b, NO DASH for popo's down-b, side-b for nana, then jump to Fair for popo. Works at all percentages as well, but the timing for Fair is harder at higher percents. This is a huge breakthrough....
I love it when Nana refuses to walk/drift towards Popo. Lovely AI.
In January I took notes for jab desyncs' frame data out of dash and out of shield. Here it is:
FROM DASH:
• Works: frames 6-13 of the dash
• Frames 6-8
you only need to jab and Nana won't act.
• You'll need to buffer something with Nana for the desync to work frames 9-13
or else she'll jab too.
• Jab hits frame 18 after initiating the dash, no matter when you input the jab.
FROM SHIELD:
• Works: frames 3-13 after Popo drops the shield
• Desyncable from frames 3-5 without buffering Nana.
• Desyncable only by buffering Nana: 6-13
• Jab hits frame 15 after dropping shield; Hits frame 16 if you jab frames 12-13 after dropping shield.
• Frames 12-13 are only cancelable by specials, taunts, jumps, or rolls.
18 years
After 18 long years the ics have kill power. Its a miracle
Now I can abuse this on my friends who spam rapid jab on shield, thanks GimR!
"Doing this is super easy"
That proves i'm bad i guess
Informative, plot twist and quality memery 10/10 vid.
Anyone interested in learning more cool desync setups or want to pick up ice climbers should check out the character discord. Most of the tech and desyncs (like the one gimz showed in his video) are documented there first. If anyone wants to join go to the smashcords website which lists the discord’s for all of the characters with invite links.
Believe it or not, on fast fallers like fox, if you catch their jump, you can jab into side special, into side special, until you reach the other side of the stage. It’s a true combo
We IC mains really needed this
The shield break de-sync can still be useful for shields that aren't full health or if you catch your opponent by surprise and they don't buffer a roll
Honestly I absolutely love your videos, you are the most entertaining smash youtuberhands down. You make some great stuff. Best of luck with your ices in bracket!
Thanks dude! Really appreciate it!
Oh god Ice Climbers just sprung up in popularity...
1:50 "Use it to whiff punished moves" haha I too enjoy whiffing punished moves
That last point about being able to roll out of shieldstun really deserves its own video.
I love the well placed theatrics. Made me subscribe
If popo's jab was the future then the universe would all be focused on popo's jab
Even if there is a frame 1 invincible roll, icies desynced actually have a way to punish that provided they don't roll away from you. A like for the jab desync alone, but rolling through my friends' rapid jabs and them not knowing what hit them is priceless.
I'm so glad that I was right when I was thinking about the jab thing before the end of the video. I will make sure never to get stuck in Rapidjab Hell again.
Omg Gimr please do more of this, I highkey want to help ICs be top tier again💜
We can do this together
Gimr: Leading to massive damage
Also Gimr: *Whiffs*
GimR, I love you
Not gonna lie, I was ResidentSleeper this video since Ice Climbers don't exist in my area...
...until 3:38
That's the real new tech I didn't expect.
Sir your thumbnail honest scared the shit out of me
Lmao i just noticed
Hey, I've discovered a way to make the Icies shoot Blizzard from both sides like in Melee and Brawl.
Do a down smash, inmediately roll left or right and mash down B, and the Icies shoot Blizzard from both sides
Never seen more swagger than that end screen Gimr
Popo in the thumbnail is giving me nightmare fuel vibes.
I enjoyed the video! It's been a while. But don't worry about the delay! I'm looking forward to more weekly uploads!
That frame 1 invincible roll thing was such a smart decheese.
They had us in the -first- -second- third half not gonna lie
They just keep getting stronger... They were my 2nd favorite in melee. I guess I should pick them up soon lol
I've been waiting and seeing how this character evolves, they're really fun to play. Shame that you can't break shields, but maybe Sakurai didn't want more BS Icies tech like in previous games. But wouldn't this work on a lower health shield before the 11th frame? still might be useful???
4:00 When he slipped in the Hunter X Hunter music, I lost it. I see you GimR.
the thUMBNAIL THO POPO WAT R U DOIng
4:50 Gimr, you genius! You have shown me the way!!!
Was literally looking for the next video to watch when he goes “Wait...” And that’s when things went from sick af to amazing! If this is a new discovery, that’s a huge deal for casuals, professionals, and everyone in between. Spread the word all!
Excellent, very well made explanations and constant tech discoveries with entertaining commentary.
Also... HunterXHunter music. You just earned a subscriber dude.
Well I learned a lot this vid. I can instant sheild break my trashy friends, get out of jabs, and make icies even more fun
The gims truly did wins today
8 months later and noticing Nana still cracks me up.
Hey GimR, I was practicing with ice climbers and I noticed that while landing with an arial that if you do a quick early buffer that only nana will perform the buffered move
Great video! Definitely see icies being a top tier once people can get consistent timing and can use their kit to their full potential. As long as they don’t get nerfed
emotional roller coaster of a video
Finds an op desync combo
Gets shut down
Uses shut down as a op counter
STREET SMARTS
That moment in an anime where you think the main character can't lose against the villain.
GimR please never stop trying to break the meta of this game.
I like how in the slowed down visual example Popo is clearly the secondary fighter yet you still refer to him as Nana.
2018: "Just don't get grabbed :^)"
2019: "Just don't get jabbed :^)"
Excellent Video man.
LoL
Great video! The ending was amazing!
The future is Olimar and Ice Climbers
Also shoutouts to HxH for that godlike ost
What would be hilarious is if the frame 1 roll can be punished if predicted properly when the opponent rolls during Popo's blizzard walk Nana to the other side and side smash
Dude that shield break setup forces players to roll or die. Just chase the roll. Super useful tech!
This is it. This is how I become the best player in Ultimate.
Among my friends.
*gets patched from every move*
GimR: oh and by the way you can also do it out of taunt
And here's where the roll out of shield tech was discovered
Im scared of popo in the thumbnail, he has creepe eyes, monkaS
The ending makes it seem like sakurai is a really smart evil anime villain
Sakurai: *N i n g e n*
well, I learned two things from this video.
ICs are going to be fucking nuts if they can get easy desyncs off of jab. The only time I can think of that you would really be idle in a match would be ledgetrapping.
How to deal with inkling's rapid jab on shield.
Kingdom of Predators hurt me personally
But Baby I'm Yours brought me back.
Finally IC’s look crazy but aren’t broken
I wonder if you could react to the roll out of blizzard with a dash grab or up tilt to continue the combo
The feels in this video hit me harder than a truck. This was an experience.
Has this been changed in a recent patch?
I can’t get to work, or am I just bad?
All we need is some player to pick up ICs and start desyncing their opponents' hands from their eyes.
Cullen Hutchison big D
Devilman - Does he do a lot of desyncs?
So all my IC mains know how at lower percents up-tilt to up-air is true? And how at percents where up-air will kill, it no longer true combos off of up-tilt?
Get a blizzard freeze, spaced correctly so you can dash-popo jab-Nana up tilt-double jump up air. Kill confirm off or blizzard and it's an alternative to the much harder to pull off and untrue (although less cheesey) footstool off of the Nana up tilt.
That's the cleanest outro I've ever seen
That's HxH at 3:44 i see you
I would say I love Gim more for watching hxh but that is literally impossible because he is already the goat.
Hey Grimer! I love the video, but had a question about the jab desync. Is there any reason to jab->forward smash instead of jab->Down special->forward smash? I was thinking about this, because in this case you can react to if they shield or not, by either going for the smash attack or something safer. I'm new to Ice Climbers, so if there's some obvious reason why this is dumb, please inform me! Thank you so much for the video!!
Yeah so, at kill percentage they will turn into Ice. You can't hit someone out of ice you either up tilt or guess when they'll come out and upsmash
@@GimR Ohhh that makes sense. Thank you!
Love these videos!
Nintendo: lets make a casual fighting game
Also nintendo: okay if you punch 7 / 90ths of a second into them trying to grab you their disjointed hitbox hasnt appeared yet so you can launch them at a 61 degree angle with a drag coefficient of....
*GET RID OF YOUR FRIENDS AND CLIMB THE ICEBERG*
Love the videos, I'm utterly garbage at Ultimate so these videos help me learn and I appreciate that
Okay, that roll tech is useful, but Icies can still abuse that and read for a follow up. On other jabs it will help, but Icies still seem scary if they know you will roll.
this is what esam was talking about in his tier list video when he talked about ice climbers
You're a beast!! This awesome.