Meanwhile, i'm just figuring out how to make the ladder into Underworld Goddess of the Closed World work in my deck that's running all 3 gods + sphere.
Thanks for guide! I will say one problem with Downerd is that it requires it to be MP2 to be summoned via the "rank 3 or lower xyz" method, which doesnt exist in the first turn, and makes it very awkward to get out on Turn 2 (as it would require not using the two level 1s for something else) unless the opponent's board is complete junk. Though you did explain the deck wasnt really meant for the combo, and its likely to be useful in atleast a few games as you can aim to combine it for AA Zeus so he has two board clears in him (now that hes far cheaper due to the 2021 tins). This video definitely opened up my eyes to how crazy Isolde + Durandal + fire flint is, even without Renaud, and getting a Gearfried helps the deck (which has a ton of steam anyway) continue pushing out threats past the first turn.
As a very experienced level 5 spam player...consider 2-3 hop ear squadron to make black rose 🌹 and disrupt opponent it’s easier if paired with sanctum...
I'm pretty sure that Codebreaker Virus Swordsman's ability for Zero Day only goes off after he's been special summoned from the GY. It's why the card specifically states "when he's special summoned while co-linked", rather than "when he's link summoned while co-linked." Like, the card is asking for a generic special summon, not just "any" kind of special summon. Realistically, you're only going to be able to get out Apollousa after using Joker's Wild on your opponent's turn to set up your board if you want that +4 summon and the full 3600 ATK, and at that point, it's just a matter of protecting your units both during their summon and for the rest of the turn (i currently run 2 copies of Witch's Strike to stop negations, as well as 3 copies of Scarecrow to stop attackers). At that point though, I'm basically setting up my board for either her or Underworld Goddess next turn if I'm trying to sack an opponent's effect monster. Like, Renaud and Fire Flint does the job obviously when it comes to getting out Apollousa early-game if that's something you want (I'm personally not running Renaud and Fire Flint since my deck is more casual-oriented, Renaud kinda kills the Casino theme i have going for my deck). But personally, I'd rather just set up my OTK with Utopia Double if i see an early opportunity to shit on my opponent. That, and i'd prefer if I could get Apollousa out as a heavy beater if i can since i could get the most out of my negates along with just having high attack points. On top of that, Isolde is also good for searching Triumph Joker from your deck if you don't want to just rely solely on Thunderspeed Summon (which i mainly just use for Ra or Sphere Mode if i can). I get that this deck doesn't run the Egyptian Gods, but still, getting either Triumph Joker or Joker's Knight should be a main priority, and Isolde gets the job done.
Link summoned a special summon which is how swordsman brings zero day from deck, then beserker brings back swordsman and zero day aslong as the are colinked and the required zones are free
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh well we're stuck here flooded in Florida with no power bored out of our minds so if you wanna do another update for us that's my hurricane request 🤣🤣🤣 I couldn't find the other video what's it called?
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh well if I get pick I'm gonna say warrior route cause we dont have access to tins here right now 😭😭 and honestly the money I was gonna spend on tins has to go to hurricane relief. I still have big trees down in my drive and neighbors under 2 feet of water thank God my house is up on stilts.
Damn what a Banging deck man. I have always absolutely loved the Jacks, Queens and Kings cards especially with the new additions. You actually made them viable, maybe there can be done some Upgrades but this is absolutely fire.
Could you also add arcana triumph joker for discard with isolde and activate it on 3rd turn to raigeki? Since it can summon itself with jokers straight in the hand
Draco future won’t get all those materials the two rank four Xyz send their overlay units to the graveyard as materials aren’t transferred to utopic future since it doesn’t say that on the card. Just thought that clarification would help 🙂
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh true but could specify that for any Xyz card saying it doesn’t say you need to detach them or doesn’t specify transferring of materials. It is how the ruling works unfortunately. Otherwise this card would be too busted.
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh sweet, I’m wanting to build a poker knight deck that is competitive. I’ve got a poker knight deck but it’s not competitive. I’ll need some ideas to make it more competitive, so I’m going to wait until the set comes out to see what people do with this deck
This is why I don't like competitive decks because there are barely any actual poker knights. I personally feel this game changed too much once link summoning was introduced. But hey that's just my opinion.
Not in this particular version as its designed to be more fast paced combo and with no guaranteed way to get to jokers wild it hurts a little bit. In a pure or God version for sure,
in what sense? Most are used as free extenders, the only cards you ideally want to normal is King or Bower Maybe queen could be cut to 2 and Jack to 1 maybe?
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh I think your knight ratio is perfect. I've tried 2 of each, but I kept milling my Knights too quickly which effectively turns jokers straight and wild into bricks.
Utopic Future doesn't transfer the materials of the ranks themselves by the way, the draco future will only be 3 materials.
Love this build i like seeing poker knight builds not focused on the gods
Personally i like the rage of ra support better for the gods
Meanwhile, i'm just figuring out how to make the ladder into Underworld Goddess of the Closed World work in my deck that's running all 3 gods + sphere.
Thanks for guide! I will say one problem with Downerd is that it requires it to be MP2 to be summoned via the "rank 3 or lower xyz" method, which doesnt exist in the first turn, and makes it very awkward to get out on Turn 2 (as it would require not using the two level 1s for something else) unless the opponent's board is complete junk. Though you did explain the deck wasnt really meant for the combo, and its likely to be useful in atleast a few games as you can aim to combine it for AA Zeus so he has two board clears in him (now that hes far cheaper due to the 2021 tins).
This video definitely opened up my eyes to how crazy Isolde + Durandal + fire flint is, even without Renaud, and getting a Gearfried helps the deck (which has a ton of steam anyway) continue pushing out threats past the first turn.
Thanks.
And that's exactly it for downered it's Purley just to get zues material
This is a great deck profile.
Glad you like it
As a very experienced level 5 spam player...consider 2-3 hop ear squadron to make black rose 🌹 and disrupt opponent it’s easier if paired with sanctum...
what is sanctum?
I'm pretty sure that Codebreaker Virus Swordsman's ability for Zero Day only goes off after he's been special summoned from the GY. It's why the card specifically states "when he's special summoned while co-linked", rather than "when he's link summoned while co-linked." Like, the card is asking for a generic special summon, not just "any" kind of special summon.
Realistically, you're only going to be able to get out Apollousa after using Joker's Wild on your opponent's turn to set up your board if you want that +4 summon and the full 3600 ATK, and at that point, it's just a matter of protecting your units both during their summon and for the rest of the turn (i currently run 2 copies of Witch's Strike to stop negations, as well as 3 copies of Scarecrow to stop attackers). At that point though, I'm basically setting up my board for either her or Underworld Goddess next turn if I'm trying to sack an opponent's effect monster.
Like, Renaud and Fire Flint does the job obviously when it comes to getting out Apollousa early-game if that's something you want (I'm personally not running Renaud and Fire Flint since my deck is more casual-oriented, Renaud kinda kills the Casino theme i have going for my deck). But personally, I'd rather just set up my OTK with Utopia Double if i see an early opportunity to shit on my opponent. That, and i'd prefer if I could get Apollousa out as a heavy beater if i can since i could get the most out of my negates along with just having high attack points.
On top of that, Isolde is also good for searching Triumph Joker from your deck if you don't want to just rely solely on Thunderspeed Summon (which i mainly just use for Ra or Sphere Mode if i can). I get that this deck doesn't run the Egyptian Gods, but still, getting either Triumph Joker or Joker's Knight should be a main priority, and Isolde gets the job done.
Link summoned a special summon which is how swordsman brings zero day from deck, then beserker brings back swordsman and zero day aslong as the are colinked and the required zones are free
I'd love it if you'd revisit this. Always was a fun deck to play and everyone at locals loved to watch it
Yeah did a update a few weeks ago, but a lot has changed from that one now aswell
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh oh I didn't see that. I guess without watching the new video what your saying is the new banlist impacted it?
@@zaksoyka9705 not majorly, its more so the new slifer support or if I continue with the warrior route
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh well we're stuck here flooded in Florida with no power bored out of our minds so if you wanna do another update for us that's my hurricane request 🤣🤣🤣 I couldn't find the other video what's it called?
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh well if I get pick I'm gonna say warrior route cause we dont have access to tins here right now 😭😭 and honestly the money I was gonna spend on tins has to go to hurricane relief. I still have big trees down in my drive and neighbors under 2 feet of water thank God my house is up on stilts.
Pretty sure when you xyz with the 2 rank 4s for utopia future it doesn’t keep the 4 extra materials from the 2 other monsters
Yeah it dosent, still gives you a utopic draco with 3 materials, more than enough to see out the game
I came here to say this, just tested it on YGO Omega and it didn't work, that's a shame
Damn what a Banging deck man. I have always absolutely loved the Jacks, Queens and Kings cards especially with the new additions.
You actually made them viable, maybe there can be done some Upgrades but this is absolutely fire.
Thanks man, I've had so much fun running the deck and produces some great boards, I need to test the god version next and see where that takes it
But no matter what, best deck I've seen of the Pokers hands down
I actually have a reason to build this archetype now thank God
Its super fun and not an auto lose deck either
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh that's what I like to hear, actually enjoying the game instead of just losing before any fun happens
Would you consider running gamma for when bower might get handtrapped?
Yes I mention that over the imperms and they have been added in for that exact reason
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh listening is hard isn’t it?
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh I commented this at the beginning of the video and realized I should've just shut up and watched it lmao
@@soupdawhoop no worries man, bits get missed :)
Could you also add arcana triumph joker for discard with isolde and activate it on 3rd turn to raigeki? Since it can summon itself with jokers straight in the hand
Yeah for sure.
Draco future won’t get all those materials the two rank four Xyz send their overlay units to the graveyard as materials aren’t transferred to utopic future since it doesn’t say that on the card. Just thought that clarification would help 🙂
Dosent say they need to detach them tho lol loop hole
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh true but could specify that for any Xyz card saying it doesn’t say you need to detach them or doesn’t specify transferring of materials. It is how the ruling works unfortunately. Otherwise this card would be too busted.
@@Neo97774 yeah I'm just messing haha, dosent make much of difference card is still nuts with material
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh oh yeah it is! Nice deck profiles btw man love your channel! Keep up the good content!
@@Neo97774 thanks man, appreciate the support 😀
You can only make downerd in mp2. Kinda kills the Draco combo
Don't play Downered in this build,
The way you make draco is using Heroic challenger and paldynamo
I’ve come across this deck profile and it’s really good. Where abouts is your god version of this deck?
Also sorry, is there anything you would change for this format?
Here is the God version th-cam.com/video/BPxWsNAiigI/w-d-xo.html
In regards to the format I'd wait till post hyper nova to make big changes
Will you make a deck profile when hyper nova comes out?
@@lukeelsworthy4010 possibly yeah, lot of decks to update, this is one of them.
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh sweet, I’m wanting to build a poker knight deck that is competitive. I’ve got a poker knight deck but it’s not competitive. I’ll need some ideas to make it more competitive, so I’m going to wait until the set comes out to see what people do with this deck
This is why I don't like competitive decks because there are barely any actual poker knights. I personally feel this game changed too much once link summoning was introduced. But hey that's just my opinion.
no jokers wild?
Not in this particular version as its designed to be more fast paced combo and with no guaranteed way to get to jokers wild it hurts a little bit. In a pure or God version for sure,
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh I'd like to see a gods build if u have one
@@justinland6688 there is one currently on the channel, but planing to do another update soon
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh could you tag me in the video cause for some odd reason I cannot seem to find it
@@justinland6688 th-cam.com/video/BPxWsNAiigI/w-d-xo.html
Or just make the Gouki link 4 towers.80% of the decks dont have an out to that and its less bricky.
You lock yourself into light warriors if you got the jokers straight route sadly
Now make one in Duel Links once the cards come to that game.
Way too many monsters
in what sense?
Most are used as free extenders,
the only cards you ideally want to normal is King or Bower
Maybe queen could be cut to 2 and Jack to 1 maybe?
@@zephyrwargamesyugioh I think your knight ratio is perfect. I've tried 2 of each, but I kept milling my Knights too quickly which effectively turns jokers straight and wild into bricks.