I think what he is saying is that, you keep the position of the arm and lower stroke stick to the surface upon initial contact. at the moment of execution, the stick may bounce or micro buzz roll. on the surface, the position and sticking you execute gives it the Scottish pipe drumming name. very different indeed.
In pipe bands, the drag is played TOTALLY different than any other style of music. Ed is playing it correctly. It should NOT have a buzz associated with it at all. It should be a total dead stroke. It should not be a buzz at all (and Ed's don't appear to be). My only complaint is that the main hand should not come up so high, as it can make it too loud. But otherwise, his dead stroke hand is correct.
Respectful, No. Not true. Both the grace note and primary stroke are different. Also, they function differently. I'd like to invite you to one of my classes to explore this further.
Then you are playing your flams incorrectly. (Sorry for the snark...but, welcome to the internet) Look at how the grace note is set up and executed. This is a unique rudiment to pipe band drumming, take a moment to reflect on it's subtle nuance. It has a dull quietness, and it stays on the drum longer for a fullness. A flam grace note would rebound off the drum immediately.
Nope, pipe band interpretation of drags is different from typical marching band interpretation in that they play the grace notes on drags/ruffs closed like a buzz roll. His drags however do sound like a flam, probably because he is choking the stick too much and not letting it buzz, or it could just be the camera not picking up the audio.
@@ZomgToastWtf No. Drag grace notes do not buzz. They are a dead stick. It's almost like when a drum kit player puts his elbow down on the drum to change the pitch, but for a split second.
@@GussieBabes Thank you! I rewatched the video and five years later I have learned something new. I just tried playing around with it and see how hard it can be to not get a rebound or a buzz using this technique at tempo which might explain the misunderstanding.
@@ZomgToastWtf Yeah, man. At speed it gets very tricky. I'm sure you can appreciate the difference between a drag tap and a tap drag as well. Going from a dead stick to a regular stroke on the same hand can be very tricky.
Saw you at Seaside Highland Games in Oct '18 and said hi.
Hope you make some more snare vids - they really help for a beginner.
the guy is absolutely right, subscribed to your channel as love the way you teach!
I think what he is saying is that, you keep the position of the arm and lower stroke stick to the surface upon initial contact.
at the moment of execution, the stick may bounce or micro buzz roll.
on the surface, the position and sticking you execute gives it the Scottish pipe drumming name. very different indeed.
Although technically it is a "dead" stroke, it is OK to have a bit of a buzz. The drag is always played softer than a flam.
In pipe bands, the drag is played TOTALLY different than any other style of music. Ed is playing it correctly. It should NOT have a buzz associated with it at all. It should be a total dead stroke. It should not be a buzz at all (and Ed's don't appear to be). My only complaint is that the main hand should not come up so high, as it can make it too loud. But otherwise, his dead stroke hand is correct.
Drags are played quietly, but it makes perfect sense to put an accent over one and play it loud. The grace notes are a different story.
LOL! Hey Dude why don't you watch the Flam Video so you know what the difference is between the two.
are you shure ? when you listen fames of scottish Drummers,the buzz of drags are not dead,are they?
If it walks like a flam, talks like a flam, and shits like a flam, it's a flam
Respectful, No. Not true. Both the grace note and primary stroke are different. Also, they function differently. I'd like to invite you to one of my classes to explore this further.
it is literally a flam
It's actually quite different. Please feel free to watch the flam video. I welcome any questions or discussion
This is a flam not a drag
Then you are playing your flams incorrectly. (Sorry for the snark...but, welcome to the internet) Look at how the grace note is set up and executed. This is a unique rudiment to pipe band drumming, take a moment to reflect on it's subtle nuance. It has a dull quietness, and it stays on the drum longer for a fullness. A flam grace note would rebound off the drum immediately.
that's a flam not a drag man
Nope, pipe band interpretation of drags is different from typical marching band interpretation in that they play the grace notes on drags/ruffs closed like a buzz roll. His drags however do sound like a flam, probably because he is choking the stick too much and not letting it buzz, or it could just be the camera not picking up the audio.
@@ZomgToastWtf No. Drag grace notes do not buzz. They are a dead stick.
It's almost like when a drum kit player puts his elbow down on the drum to change the pitch, but for a split second.
@@GussieBabes Thank you! I rewatched the video and five years later I have learned something new. I just tried playing around with it and see how hard it can be to not get a rebound or a buzz using this technique at tempo which might explain the misunderstanding.
@@ZomgToastWtf Yeah, man. At speed it gets very tricky. I'm sure you can appreciate the difference between a drag tap and a tap drag as well. Going from a dead stick to a regular stroke on the same hand can be very tricky.