I appreciate the kind words. I agree, and need to do better personally at telling stories from medical history that don't strictly center western doctors.
@@PatKellyTeaches But what if (ahem) Western doctors _were_ at the center of (virtually) all the most important medical breakthroughs of the past few centuries which characterize modern medicine? Would you prefer to ignore covering a profound breakthrough from a Western (re, _white_) doctor at the expense of covering a comparatively trivial contribution from someone who happened to have been from somewhere else and looked a bit different? And I’ll just note how meager and trifling these supposedly revolutionary contributions were. Even your video ostensibly “centering” the Islamic world can only scrounge up a few examples wherein _some_ level of interest was shown by a couple polymaths at the time. This was then followed up with evidence-free speculation about what they were possibly researching in their own right… this is condescending, and it reminds me of those “inspiring” news profiles of a teenage prodigy in Ghana who has been working on his new invention which will _totally_ change the world 🙄
@@Aquarius444K They should get only the amount of credit they deserve. It’s videos like this which are warping history by absurd exaggerations, not me.
Muslim medical student here! Awesome video! Thank you for shining some light on the contributions of the medieval Islamicate world to modern day science, especially in the field of medicine. I'd just like to clarify a few things; It's a bit long, so bear with me :) - Hadith is defined as a collection of sayings of the Prophet Mohammad Peace be upon him (think of it like a quote). It also refers to his actions. * (The hadith and the Quran (Muslim holy book) complete and compliment each other, and together they are the main sources of guidance in Islam.) - Sunnah (or Sunna) on the other hand is the example set by the Prophet PBUH through his sayings and practices, this includes Hadith. ** - Regarding cadavers: as Patrick mentioned, there is no explicit ruling with or against dissection. Mutilation however is strictly prohibited and is mentioned in both the Quran and Hadith. This is what Patrick's quote at 04:54 refers to: inflicting harm on anyone, dead or alive, is forbidden. (Hence why cremation is is prohibited in Islam; it is considered disrespectful to the dead.) In Islam, the deceased are treated with respect and dignity; they are cleansed, wrapped in shrouds and a special prayer is performed and they are buried usually on the day of passing. This is why cadavers aren't really used. It is permissible though where necessary.*** I've just finished my first year in med school and we only used plastic models/ digital cadaver table/ embalmed cadavers. My science teacher dissected a rabbit when I was in year 6 (at my request) and it was really cool. I really hope this helped. Greetings from Jordan :D --------------------------------------- *An example of a Hadith: Umar Ibn Khattab (may God be pleased with him) narrated: "I heard the the Prophet Peace be upon him say: (Verily actions are only dependant on intentions..) " Bukhari & Muslim. >> veiledgems.com/tag/innamal-amaalu-binniyaat-%D8%A5%D9%90%D9%86%D9%8E%D9%91%D9%85%D9%8E%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%A3%D9%8E%D8%B9%D9%92%D9%85%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8F-%D8%A8%D9%90%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%90%D9%91/ **An example of Sunnah: Smiling! Smiling is awesome and was the Sunnah of the beloved Prophet PBUH. Other examples include sleeping on your right side, table manners, maintaining personal hygeine etc. >>en.islamway.net/article/38363/6-the-sunnah-of-smiling >> productivemuslim.com/12-super-sunnahs/ >> www.islamreligion.com/articles/653/viewall/what-is-sunnah/ *** This is a really excellent article ans will hopefully make things clearer: >>questionsonislam.com/question/using-cadaver-permissible-it-religiously-appropriate-students-studying-and-academicians#:~:text=Acting%20upon%20this%20point%2C%20if%20working%20on%20cadavers,great%20importance%20to%20protecting%20property%2C%20life%2C%20religion%2C%20etc. Thank you very much :)
Hi! Thank you for your wonderful insight and research. Since this comment is two years old I can't help but ask - how is it going? Are you still in med school or have you finished it? I wish you the best of luck either way!
1:48 A hole in the heart like that is normal for fetuses, because their hearts don't need to send a lot of blood to their lungs to get oxygenated. As they take their first breath (or first few breaths) most babies close up that hole with muscular action and it soon seals shut. If this doesn't happen, they are likely to need heart surgery, at an age where surgery in general tends to be extra risky. Luckily, most kids with this issue get through the surgery fine and live happy, healthy lives with a heart that is just slightly weaker than average.
One theory concerning the decline of knowledge about science and medicine in Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire while that knowledge flourished in Arabic countries is that Europe relied on papyrus. After the fall of Rome, the papyrus industry was lost and thus it was impossible to document anything. Their solution was using vellum, which is difficult and costly to make, so it was reserved mainly for religious or legal purposes. In Arabic countries, however, they acquired the know how to make paper from the Chinese using tree bark and other plant fibers. Thus, science and mathematics progressed in those countries and not in Europe until finally the paper-making industry came to Europe.
I really like your content. I want to suggest something. I was able to subscribe to this channel only because of your community post on the previous channel. This was because I wasn't able to find this channel with just searches because there's a music artist named Patrick Kelly. It will be hard for people to search for your channel and videos in the future as well. It will take a long time to get subs just because your channel name is not unique. So if possible, please change your channel name. Thanks for reading this.
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This video deserves more traction. Rarely is there a source crediting the development of science from non-western thinkers.
I appreciate the kind words. I agree, and need to do better personally at telling stories from medical history that don't strictly center western doctors.
@@PatKellyTeaches But what if (ahem) Western doctors _were_ at the center of (virtually) all the most important medical breakthroughs of the past few centuries which characterize modern medicine? Would you prefer to ignore covering a profound breakthrough from a Western (re, _white_) doctor at the expense of covering a comparatively trivial contribution from someone who happened to have been from somewhere else and looked a bit different?
And I’ll just note how meager and trifling these supposedly revolutionary contributions were. Even your video ostensibly “centering” the Islamic world can only scrounge up a few examples wherein _some_ level of interest was shown by a couple polymaths at the time. This was then followed up with evidence-free speculation about what they were possibly researching in their own right… this is condescending, and it reminds me of those “inspiring” news profiles of a teenage prodigy in Ghana who has been working on his new invention which will _totally_ change the world 🙄
someone's a bit upset that the white people aren't getting all the credit huh? @@JJJRRRJJJ
@@Aquarius444K They should get only the amount of credit they deserve. It’s videos like this which are warping history by absurd exaggerations, not me.
Islam is western, too
_(I personally don't use that dichotomy because it's extremely outdated & excludes a lot of the world)_
Muslim medical student here!
Awesome video! Thank you for shining some light on the contributions of the medieval Islamicate world to modern day science, especially in the field of medicine.
I'd just like to clarify a few things;
It's a bit long, so bear with me :)
- Hadith is defined as a collection of sayings of the Prophet Mohammad Peace be upon him (think of it like a quote). It also refers to his actions. *
(The hadith and the Quran (Muslim holy book) complete and compliment each other, and together they are the main sources of guidance in Islam.)
- Sunnah (or Sunna) on the other hand is the example set by the Prophet PBUH through his sayings and practices, this includes Hadith. **
- Regarding cadavers: as Patrick mentioned, there is no explicit ruling with or against dissection. Mutilation however is strictly prohibited and is mentioned in both the Quran and Hadith. This is what Patrick's quote at 04:54 refers to: inflicting harm on anyone, dead or alive, is forbidden. (Hence why cremation is is prohibited in Islam; it is considered disrespectful to the dead.)
In Islam, the deceased are treated with respect and dignity; they are cleansed, wrapped in shrouds and a special prayer is performed and they are buried usually on the day of passing. This is why cadavers aren't really used. It is permissible though where necessary.***
I've just finished my first year in med school and we only used plastic models/ digital cadaver table/ embalmed cadavers. My science teacher dissected a rabbit when I was in year 6 (at my request) and it was really cool.
I really hope this helped.
Greetings from Jordan :D
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*An example of a Hadith: Umar Ibn Khattab (may God be pleased with him) narrated: "I heard the the Prophet Peace be upon him say: (Verily actions are only dependant on intentions..) "
Bukhari & Muslim.
>> veiledgems.com/tag/innamal-amaalu-binniyaat-%D8%A5%D9%90%D9%86%D9%8E%D9%91%D9%85%D9%8E%D8%A7-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%92%D8%A3%D9%8E%D8%B9%D9%92%D9%85%D9%8E%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8F-%D8%A8%D9%90%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%86%D9%90%D9%91/
**An example of Sunnah: Smiling! Smiling is awesome and was the Sunnah of the beloved Prophet PBUH. Other examples include sleeping on your right side, table manners, maintaining personal hygeine etc.
>>en.islamway.net/article/38363/6-the-sunnah-of-smiling
>> productivemuslim.com/12-super-sunnahs/
>> www.islamreligion.com/articles/653/viewall/what-is-sunnah/
*** This is a really excellent article ans will hopefully make things clearer:
>>questionsonislam.com/question/using-cadaver-permissible-it-religiously-appropriate-students-studying-and-academicians#:~:text=Acting%20upon%20this%20point%2C%20if%20working%20on%20cadavers,great%20importance%20to%20protecting%20property%2C%20life%2C%20religion%2C%20etc.
Thank you very much :)
Thank you for the insight and context Noor!
Hi! Thank you for your wonderful insight and research. Since this comment is two years old I can't help but ask - how is it going? Are you still in med school or have you finished it? I wish you the best of luck either way!
@@ga1axyshad191 You are most welcome! I started third year a few days ago, thanks for asking :D
@@noorrefai4639 Thar's amazing!! Best of luck! :D I hope you're enjoying it so far! You got this mate
1:48 A hole in the heart like that is normal for fetuses, because their hearts don't need to send a lot of blood to their lungs to get oxygenated. As they take their first breath (or first few breaths) most babies close up that hole with muscular action and it soon seals shut. If this doesn't happen, they are likely to need heart surgery, at an age where surgery in general tends to be extra risky. Luckily, most kids with this issue get through the surgery fine and live happy, healthy lives with a heart that is just slightly weaker than average.
Great bro, you have incredibly epitomized the Islam scholars contribution unto anatomical science, may you be blessed with the wealth of Iman. Ameen
MUSLIM PHYSICAL THERAPY STUDENT HERE!
ONLY 1.6K SUBS? Let's make Patrick 1M Subs by the end of 2021. Amazing content keep it up.
I appreciate the kind words. I love this stuff
Still less than 100K subs, and after 3 years still 16K views? This is amazing content, all of the videos deserve hundred million views
Thanks . l'm from iraq contry for rases and baghdady sintest
One theory concerning the decline of knowledge about science and medicine in Europe after the fall of the Roman Empire while that knowledge flourished in Arabic countries is that Europe relied on papyrus. After the fall of Rome, the papyrus industry was lost and thus it was impossible to document anything. Their solution was using vellum, which is difficult and costly to make, so it was reserved mainly for religious or legal purposes. In Arabic countries, however, they acquired the know how to make paper from the Chinese using tree bark and other plant fibers. Thus, science and mathematics progressed in those countries and not in Europe until finally the paper-making industry came to Europe.
I appreciate that you have the courage to review the Unjust historical narratives 🙏 Good for you to respect your conscience like this
Wonderfully put together presentation as always
Binging all your videos man, fantasic work. Thank you.
This sounds good. But have a look over Sushruta samhita.. you'll surely be stunned.
He already has. Look at his rabies video
I really like your content. I want to suggest something. I was able to subscribe to this channel only because of your community post on the previous channel. This was because I wasn't able to find this channel with just searches because there's a music artist named Patrick Kelly. It will be hard for people to search for your channel and videos in the future as well. It will take a long time to get subs just because your channel name is not unique. So if possible, please change your channel name. Thanks for reading this.
Hi Daniel, thanks for the kind words :) You're right, my name is super common worldwide -- and isn't conducive to search results. The good news is that potential viewers are more likely to search for the video topic than to search for me, which will help build the channel. I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm pretty committed to using my name as the channel name. Hopefully, someday I'll eclipse the other Patrick Kelly's in SEO
@@PatKellyTeaches I will look for your channel, whether by your name or the other channel. I found Corporis when I was looking for info on cells, etc.
Another excellent presentation
Unfortunately, I do in fact have a neat little vent between my ventricles. XP It's not excellent.
I’m so glad your channel was recommended to me! You make my work days so much more bearable XD
You deserve the greatest Subscribe 🌷
I respect the research and even-handed approach that has gone into this episode.
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I would like to point out that the vast majority of the scholars involved in the so-called Islamic Golden Age were of Iranian descent, not Arab.
Ok? That's why it isn't called the Arab golden age
Iran didn't exist back then.. ..
You can say Persians
Islam Saved anatomy by supplying the curious with a plentiful supply of human cadavers!
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