@InMoneroWeTrust but Sophie went in there like a freaking peacock. She should have told Her herself instead of being a fourteen year old girl and sitting back and enjoying what's going on. A real woman would have went to Natalie herself instead of gossing around to everyone else but.... So no it's Sophie's fault 100% have a good day.
Cause SOPHIE went on and told everyone except Telling her which means she is equal culprit. The way Sophie adversities everything to entire group but not telling Natalie was a cheap act .
I love how Natalie just uses her mouth versus getting physical. But hey, some of us are raised differently than others. It’s called emotional intelligence 🤭
@@Princess-ev8vk are you being sarcastic? natalie was being physical, she literally broke that glass and was calling an innocent girl a slut when it was her man that was trying to cheat. but yeah.. “emotional intelligence”
@@Princess-ev8vk are you being sarcastic? natalie was being physical, she literally broke a glass and was insulting an innocent girl when it was her man trying to cheat. but yeah… “emotional intelligence” lol
I think that jasmine was trying to side with Natalie , wanted her to know how sneaky and weird Josh is. But of course Natalie overreacted and attacked Sophie the most
I think she wanted Natalie to leave Josh by saying Josh's fault but Natalie vent her frustration on Sophie instead. I don't think Jasmine wants drama from Natalie, Jasmine only creates drama for herself and Gino
@@bellam7546 of course I’m sure we can all agree the time and place was wrong, but to me she unintentionally started something. I don’t think her whole goal was for it to blow up the way it did. That’s why she was pissed at Natalie after she walked out
What's he supposed to do? It's a battle between 2 women. Sophie can stick up for herself. She did fine on her own and kept her cool. In the end, Natalie just made herself look crazy (as always) and Sophie went on with the night. Rob getting involved wouldn't have made things better.
Well he made clear to her they are just friends. He made clear he won't invite her to his home. He made clear he won't go with her to Vegas and the whole reason for it is that she can't control her emotions and argues and cries and causes a scene. I'm pretty sure he does not want her to meet his kids. I'm sure he does not want his kids to be exposed to this kind of drama. It wouldn't be healthy anyway for kids to watch this and I'm sure he can't see himself having kids with Natalie.
Natalie has severe abandonment issues since her dad left when she was very young. Did you see the way she broke down crying when she first got on the show talking about her dad? That comes from an unhealed person which we all are, but it’s that dad abandonment issue that really cuts deep for her. That’s what this is really all about, her feeling abandoned. I think she’s low key a self fulfilled prophecy.. she projects that desperate, orphan energy onto guys and they eventually RUN 🏃♂️.. understandably. Could you imagine living in a house with Natalie’s ass?!😩😩😩
She is telling Sophie how can she do his cause she's married when she was on the show already hooking up with Josh but still married to Mike. This woman is insane 😂
Natalie stalked him claiming she's an actress/ model so he introduced her to people able to help her. At no point has claimed to be in love with a married woman that stalks him.
Agree, it is Josh’s fault. He lied to Natalie and he absolutely flirted with and invited Sophie to Vegas. On the after show he had the nerve to blame Sophie and sanction Natalie’s actions. He should let Natalie know it’s never happening and let her go.
Sophie intentionally told everybody Josh texted her since day one to start up drama , instead of just speaking with Natalie lol She wants to be the center of attention like a teen , Jasmine is bored and also told Natalie on purpose to watch circus unfold. All those women have no class or whatsoever . Also no point of Natalie and Josh being there since they are only friends with benefits lol
Sophie could have kept info about Josh to herself rather than sharing it with people. But she is not obligated to share that info with Natalie. I don't think anyone would give that kind of info to Natalie first. That woman is unhinged. There is no telling how she would react.
@@graceanderson7933 I think Sophie should have told Natalie instead of telling the whole group behind Natalies back. It seemed like she was proud that Josh was messaging her,she was giggling like a teenager.
Sophie is very immature. Maturity is pulling Natalie to the side and being honest with her about what happened instead of gossiping to other people behind her back.
@bellam7546 Honestly, if I were her, I would be afraid of how Natalie would react. We all know Natalie isn't the most stable person in the world and she would have lost her shit the same way even if Sophie had been upfront
in that moment he could have said something like "yes I would love to go to Vegas with you"....etc etc. Man he REALLLLLLLLY does not even like her at all. Natalie needs to walk away. or else she is going to go crazy with all the gaslighting. Calling Natalie alone when jasmine's own husband wount have sex with her......they are all in the same mess...
Why'd he have said that??? That woman is crazy and her behavior was DISGUSTING! Why'd he reward her with a vacation for almost seriously injuring someone????? SO glad he wasn't playing those games!!
Natalie and Jasmine like to bully simps who will bark and sit on demand.. Josh and mr. Baldy are simps who realized this at some point. So they withhold things from them to try being in control every once in a while 😂 and that’s why everyone is miserable
@ I don’t know what I see in Natalie, when jasmine went off on her she is standing there like a child who got told she did a bad thing. I think she is crazy and she kinda scares me is someway
The glass that Natalie kicked out of Sophie's hand could have landed on someone's bare legs or feet. She could have injured some one. If I were Sophie I would have talked to the producers about being unsafe around Natalie.
It was so triggering watching Jasmine abuse Natalie and the way she grabbed her ear. Jasmine needs to be in a cell. Natalie should sue TLC. The gaslighting is unreal.
she literally broke a glass on her foot lmao and she didnt grab her ear rough or aggressive. It was the threat of something sure, but she didnt actually do something.
Jasmine is the real crazy one ….. she gives Natalie fuel knowing she would go crazy . Then gets mad and turns in her…. Super manipulative and that’s the true crazy person. Natalie is crazy and rude but stupid and impulsive so she poses no real threat .
The best thing for Natalie is to say GOODBYE to Josh . She needs to understand Josh only keeps her around as a Friend and nothing more ! I wish Natalie would find a real man who is all in it for her ❤️
@@naimam3976She didn’t start it, she just revealed it. Everyone was talking about it behind Natalie’s back… she deserved to know. Josh should have been the one to tell her.
@@Monstera1005 Lets be honest Jasmine loves drama and she couldnt wait to tell Natalie, if she really cared she could have told when they were all alone, but she thought it was the perfect timing to tell when Josh was standing close to Sophie.
@@naimam3976 that’s true Jasmine did start it, but Natalie has a screw loose, she didn’t like Sophie from the get-go for no reason at all and talking bad about her to the other women
When Natalie saw her own size for the fight she was looking for in Jasmine she was shaking in her shoes 😂😂😂 where's all the tough fighter when she was in Sophie's face
Jasmine knew what she was doing telling natalie that, she knows how natalie gets dont know why she gets all mad getting caught in the middle of what she provoked
Im glad to see Natalie put in her place. Someone needed to tell her she's no better than anyone else. I don't care how it got to that point but it should have been done long ago.
Put in her place for what? I find it cringe that most Natalie haters don't see how Mike and Josh gaslight her and make her look crazy. Jasmine knew how unstable Natalie is and she decided to start shit and now when Natalie states facts, she is crazy and needs to be put in her place? Y'all just hate Natalie cause she's honest and doesn't let people get away with bs.
@PatriciaMunsch maybe your just like mike and Josh, both of them ain't better than natalie, and with jasmine?? jasmine is just as fake and her acting like she's putting natalie in her place is cringe af, it's funnier with gino being behind her deep down thinking (look who's talking) 😂
How is it Jasmine fault? She's being a woman.. she's telling another woman that her man is texting another woman and inviting her to Vegas... it's the MANS fault not anyone else! Stop blaming the women
Not tell her at the bar when she’s drinking , then trying to eat popcorn watch a show that Natalie is going to be the fool. Then later go crazy at Natalie when she is already acting like the fool. Jasmine sux
Jasmine is so fark up seriously , she stirred the shit drama by being the big mouth . Tried to make Natalie be the fool and then blew up at her when she acted crazy. Jasmine is the worst of all
@ she chose the worst time tell her, in a club with drinks and emotions run high while Josh is talking to Sophie , with the intention of watching a big fight erupt.
@ I’m not disagreeing that she stirred the pot, she definitely did. These people love the gossip as with any reality show. But Natalie would’ve acted like this at any moment that she found out
Jasmine calling someone insecure when she wouldn’t allow Gino to have female friends lol and is jealous insecure herself. She said that’s why you alone but yet she and Gino aren’t together! Jasmine has mental issues Of her own. Jasmine is a grown old woman trying to start something and being snitch she could have just kept her mouth shut!!
I mean Natalie should know. At least now Natalie knows Josh doesn’t want to go anywhere with because she’s so destructive. Then again they’re all drunk af.
@@jstartech2812 i didn’t say anything that’s not true lol. just adding context to the original comment. stops self projecting . are you jealous of the type of relationship they have?
@@itrytobegood You are so jealous, you keep writing. He funds her in the USA SO WHAT. He is not in chains to do that. I guess this is your first time seeing a man caring for a woman, since you fell from somewhere onto Earth
Natalie and Josh aren’t even together and she’s crashing out over him. Her anger needs to be directed at Josh because it’s not Sophie’s fault that he doesn’t want her. Rob is pathetic to chill with a guy who was hitting on his wife. I thought this was a couples’ retreat, not for friends😅
I really don’t blame Natalie for going off at all. If any of these other girls found out their man was doing this just imagine. Jasmine told Natalie right when Sophie is at the bar talking to Josh. Like I’d be livid especially if someone came to me at that timing with that bs. Hoping Natalie leaves this guy though.
Natalie shouldn’t even be still on 90 day fiancé, as she has NO fiancé lol. Natalie is upset and frustrated because she can’t keep a man, can’t get the man she wants. That’s what the situation with Mike was all about, and truth be told she should’ve been deported a long damn time ago. She clearly used Mike for that green card! Mike actually loved her, but she thought he and his home were beneath her so she left as a married woman moved across the country to Florida and what does she do for a living again? Besides living off the American dollar?💀. I love Natalie’s mother, but Natalie was raised by a single mother because she was abandoned by her father at an early age so the mother gassed her head up, telling her how pretty she was so she would feel special. Natalie gets to the US and sees there are more attractive levelheaded women than she, that have a man she so desperately wants, that can get pregnant, all the things she desires and has always wanted. Natalie has been married and divorced three times. I believe Natalie’s miss placed ego allowed her to believe she would have plenty of time to find Mr. right but now that biological clock is ticking and she realizes she has not accomplished much of what she actually wanted. I hope if she finds an available man because I believe Josh is not emotionally or even physically available for a relationship, that she will try to stick with him this time try to work things out instead of running.
I can’t believe that guy Josh can’t even comfort Natalie ! As a woman we just want assurance when we feel jealous just say the words i love you im here for you im never going to hurt you! And that’s it
Jasmine chose the wrong environment to bring it up to Natalie tho. She could’ve/had plenty other appropriate times to mention it to her. Why AS he’s talkin to Sophie in front of her KNOWING Natalie’s insanely dramtic + drinks in the mix. She reacted childish. She has every right to be mad but GIRL, learn to handle it like a boss. Not a toddler.
I think Jasmine is one of the worst people to appear on the show. I used to like her, but she's so toxic. Dancing with Bini when she knows it would upset Ari. If Gino even glanced at another woman, she would flip! She then drops the Josh bomb and then gets mad at her reaction! She seems to forget we've seen her childish tantrums and unreasonable behavior.
Sophie knew what the hell she was doing! She knew how dramatic Natalie can be that’s why she chose to respond and share it with the others. If she had any respect she would have kept that to herself or told Natalie. Sophie kept giving Josh that “say something” look. Like he was gonna be her savior. I think the only reason he did say something was because he knows he is guilty and he wanted to twist the story before Sophie told the truth. Just look at the expression she gave when he said he asked her if she’s BEEN to Vegas. Side note: isn’t it crazy how Josh is hitting on Sophie and rob was supposedly so upset about it but he didn’t seem so upset when they were talking at the club. I think that’s what set Natalie off. She was fine before finding out what he did. I mean I would have acted the same if my man did that. It’s mad disrespectful. People always cause problems then blames the person for reacting.
This is why I believe you need to reflect and have a mind of your own, especially when you're hurt. I'm pretty sure Natalie got all hyped up because Jasmin encouraged her too, then she ended up in Natalie's face when she got extra. Now everyone is singling her out as the bad guy for taking it too far, but she's just hurt. Isolation and reflection is definitely important when you're angry or hurt.
They showed the texts on TV to the viewers. However, if I were in Sophie's place I would also not show those texts while people are screaming and cursing at me. Sophie offered to talk to Natalie privately. Natalie blew her chances to see the texts right there.
@@Kells33 It was in the first episode when Sophie and Rob were talking about it, the producers displayed a few screenshots of the messages from Josh to Sophie so that the viewers see them. Josh even admits about it to the group (when Natalie is not around) in the bar. Then, he lies to her. No one can be honest about it to Natalie. I understand your thought process of clearing names, but Natalie can simply attack anyone who is involved simply because Josh messaged them. "Why did you respond to him? You are a married womaaaaan. He invited you and you did not cuuurse at him. WHHYYYY? YOU HOOOKER."
Jasmine knew when she told Natalie that Josh liked Sophie that she was lighting a fire. I've never seen Jasmine stir the pot like that then pretend that she didn't do anything wrong. She deliberately fired Natalie up. Natalie is right that Jasmine started that fight. If the tables were turned Jasmine would have behaved exactly like Natalie. Jasmine dancing with Beni is another situation that would have made her mad if it were Gino dancing with Arie. It seems to be ok for Jasmine but not anyone else to behave like a fool. Sophie got caught in the crossfire and didn't deserve to be treated the way she was. She can't help she's beautiful
Brandon knew who he married. But that dancing on the bar showing her whoo haa was wrong. You were embarrassing your husband acting like that Julia. Also Rob was enjoying them fighting. I loved the way Bini was dancing with Jasmine, he could get down. I think they are all immature actually. They are all acting like they have the perfect relationship. I am glad Josh finally put his foot down with crazy ass Natalie.
@@belgiumgirl8970he’s a lot more mature than her though. You can tell she’s trying to live through her fun 20s and Brandon is over that stage already. They are on 2 different paths and I hope Brandon dodges this bullet. Julia is a honeybee who wants to explore all of the different nectars before coming back home. Just like how Natalie did to Mike.
It’s a shame Julia doesn’t realise what a great man her husband is. He loves her and is totally committed to her. She’s acting like an immature, messy brat.
Jasmine started it and then got mad when she knew Natalie would go nuts. They are all awful.
This girls must be willdd in bed haha
At the end of the day thats all it matters
Because maybe she thought she'd go after her man not the person who doesn't owe her loyalty.
Sophie the cocky Peacock started all this.....
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Josh started it
@InMoneroWeTrust but Sophie went in there like a freaking peacock. She should have told Her herself instead of being a fourteen year old girl and sitting back and enjoying what's going on. A real woman would have went to Natalie herself instead of gossing around to everyone else but.... So no it's Sophie's fault 100% have a good day.
Idk why Natalie is acting like Sophie is the problem and not Josh….
Yeah that’s her mistake seriously . Act crazy on Josh not Sophie. I guess jealousy rage mode made her turn on a gal
Plus don't they have an open relationship? He has probably gone to Vegas or wherever with dozens of women. Why is Natalie not thinking about that 😮
@ for real! Like Sophie doesn’t want him, she needs to chill
@@musingwanderer2765 absolutely
Cause SOPHIE went on and told everyone except Telling her which means she is equal culprit.
The way Sophie adversities everything to entire group but not telling Natalie was a cheap act .
Not Jasmine acting like she didn't instigate all of this with her big mouth 😂😂
she did what had to be done.
She's a terrible person
And we’re so here for it, 😂
Producers are the real instigaters. It's obv staged duhhhh
That Jasmine is Evil. Her fake books are horrendous
Natalie "I NEED A HOT SINGLE GUY" and Josh didn't care lmao
Josh was like please please 🙏🏾 find one and leave me the hell alone.
he didn't understand her accent
@@faustopacheco120
You reckon? They have been sort of together for three yrs thought he would have got used to her accent
i was going to say the same thing he didn’t care at all he was looking for another replacement lol 😂
@@katcat1694 he probably tunes her out a lot
LOVEEEE how natalie went completely silent when jasmine went off on her 😭🤣 crazy recognises crazier and natalie knew she wasn't gonna win that fight
I love how Natalie just uses her mouth versus getting physical. But hey, some of us are raised differently than others. It’s called emotional intelligence 🤭
@@Princess-ev8vk she broke the glass with her mouth then?
Natalie can handle jasmine as not everyone is gino Natalie is beautiful but entertaining. Ari is awesome
@@Princess-ev8vk are you being sarcastic? natalie was being physical, she literally broke that glass and was calling an innocent girl a slut when it was her man that was trying to cheat. but yeah.. “emotional intelligence”
@@Princess-ev8vk are you being sarcastic? natalie was being physical, she literally broke a glass and was insulting an innocent girl when it was her man trying to cheat. but yeah… “emotional intelligence” lol
I think that jasmine was trying to side with Natalie , wanted her to know how sneaky and weird Josh is. But of course Natalie overreacted and attacked Sophie the most
Nah, Jasmine was starting shit. If she really carer about Natalie she would've have told her about Josh at an appropriate time.
@@bellam7546why walk on eggshells !!!! Stop it.
I think she wanted Natalie to leave Josh by saying Josh's fault but Natalie vent her frustration on Sophie instead. I don't think Jasmine wants drama from Natalie, Jasmine only creates drama for herself and Gino
@@bellam7546 of course I’m sure we can all agree the time and place was wrong, but to me she unintentionally started something. I don’t think her whole goal was for it to blow up the way it did. That’s why she was pissed at Natalie after she walked out
@@jasg771 agree
And Rob just stood there, mouth shut, in a ponytail like the princess he is.
They don't call him Rob the knob for nothing 🤪🤪
What's he supposed to do? It's a battle between 2 women. Sophie can stick up for herself. She did fine on her own and kept her cool. In the end, Natalie just made herself look crazy (as always) and Sophie went on with the night. Rob getting involved wouldn't have made things better.
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Lmao shade! 😂
So nobody is blaming "the guy" called Josh
He's definitely shady lol "Nobody went to Vegas" that's not what she asked you, bruh
EXACTLY!!!! but she has to understand, the man don’t want to ass girl so move on
He was hiding behind Gino watching J tell Nat off. Totally stafed
Well he made clear to her they are just friends. He made clear he won't invite her to his home.
He made clear he won't go with her to Vegas and the whole reason for it is that she can't control her emotions and argues and cries and causes a scene.
I'm pretty sure he does not want her to meet his kids.
I'm sure he does not want his kids to be exposed to this kind of drama.
It wouldn't be healthy anyway for kids to watch this and I'm sure he can't see himself having kids with Natalie.
Yep!!!!
What a crazy crowd 😂😂😂😂 TLC has done it again
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Yah well, that is the reason for them to be there, lol.
These people are all re-living their freshman year in high school. 😮😢 That being said, I love it 😂😂😂😂
This comment deserves a reward ❤🎉
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Exactly
omg, Natalie acted so cringe here!! Holy shit!!!
Her going berserk made her look so damn insecure, she don’t know how to act 🤦🏻♀️
@lucille3281
ENAG you got a tongue ring?
Only here? 😂
Natalie has severe abandonment issues since her dad left when she was very young. Did you see the way she broke down crying when she first got on the show talking about her dad? That comes from an unhealed person which we all are, but it’s that dad abandonment issue that really cuts deep for her. That’s what this is really all about, her feeling abandoned. I think she’s low key a self fulfilled prophecy.. she projects that desperate, orphan energy onto guys and they eventually RUN 🏃♂️.. understandably. Could you imagine living in a house with Natalie’s ass?!😩😩😩
Nataly should be declared insane. 😅
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Everyone knows she is
She is telling Sophie how can she do his cause she's married when she was on the show already hooking up with Josh but still married to Mike. This woman is insane 😂
The show is insane
Ha I know right I was thinking exactly the same
I said it before I say it again she needs a psychiatrist there's something wrong with her very insecure woman
😂😂😂 Natalie and her insecurities 😂😂😂 she's the wrost
“You wanna meet with crazy”
“I’m crazy”
So iconic
I lost it 😂😂😂
She’s a female narcissist. Jasmine triangulates people against each other
Lol Jasmine reading Natalie for filth was everything!
I was actually hoping Natalie was going to slap her 😂
Lets not forget she instigated the fight
Rather ironic since everything she said applies to herself aswell
I was LIVING for it. Regardless of the source she was spitting bars
Jasmine is a female narcissist. She triangulates people against each other
Natalie is becoming older and crazier. Ridiculous 😂
I hate when women blame the other woman and not the man who is the one lying and cheating on them 😒
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Women cheat much more than men do
Yeah but we all did see what sophie planned and did too! Rite?
"INVITE ME TO VIIIIIIEGAS"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Omg 😂😂😂😂
How come Florian always says what we think? 😂
Yess they are the most down to earth couple lol I love them
He is better than "Harold" from monk therapist. We Albanians are thinking of having a holiday on his honor.
With his veneers 😂😂
He’s to funny 😂
The whole situation is clearly Josh's fault. He is not interested in Natalie and keep promising something else. Natalie go way from this shit man.
Natalie stalked him claiming she's an actress/ model so he introduced her to people able to help her. At no point has claimed to be in love with a married woman that stalks him.
Agree, it is Josh’s fault. He lied to Natalie and he absolutely flirted with and invited Sophie to Vegas. On the after show he had the nerve to blame Sophie and sanction Natalie’s actions.
He should let Natalie know it’s never happening and let her go.
I hate how jasmine is playing both sides shes so fake
Sophie intentionally told everybody Josh texted her since day one to start up drama , instead of just speaking with Natalie lol She wants to be the center of attention like a teen , Jasmine is bored and also told Natalie on purpose to watch circus unfold. All those women have no class or whatsoever . Also no point of Natalie and Josh being there since they are only friends with benefits lol
Thank you for pointing this out.
@@bellam7546 I really sometimes wonder if producers make them do it or they do but it was so obvious it was on purpose all of it . 😅
Sophie could have kept info about Josh to herself rather than sharing it with people. But she is not obligated to share that info with Natalie. I don't think anyone would give that kind of info to Natalie first. That woman is unhinged. There is no telling how she would react.
@@ozlemsuleyman9760you’re scared then
I think Sophie handled it well
Ditto 😂
For her age she’s extremely mature 🙌🏻
@@graceanderson7933 I think Sophie should have told Natalie instead of telling the whole group behind Natalies back. It seemed like she was proud that Josh was messaging her,she was giggling like a teenager.
Sophie is very immature. Maturity is pulling Natalie to the side and being honest with her about what happened instead of gossiping to other people behind her back.
@bellam7546 Honestly, if I were her, I would be afraid of how Natalie would react. We all know Natalie isn't the most stable person in the world and she would have lost her shit the same way even if Sophie had been upfront
Josh is a jerk, but Natalie is definitely unstable as hell and he needs to get away from her as fast as he can
Natalie made a complete fool of herself, how embarassing for her soul....😮
That's what TLC wants from her (and the others), that's what brings audience to their show.
@brenturner9231 yes and I am here for it!!!
in that moment he could have said something like "yes I would love to go to Vegas with you"....etc etc. Man he REALLLLLLLLY does not even like her at all. Natalie needs to walk away. or else she is going to go crazy with all the gaslighting. Calling Natalie alone when jasmine's own husband wount have sex with her......they are all in the same mess...
Why'd he have said that??? That woman is crazy and her behavior was DISGUSTING! Why'd he reward her with a vacation for almost seriously injuring someone????? SO glad he wasn't playing those games!!
It’s not hard to tell that Josh never liked Natalie from the start. He’s just here for the show and fame.
Natalie and Jasmine like to bully simps who will bark and sit on demand.. Josh and mr. Baldy are simps who realized this at some point. So they withhold things from them to try being in control every once in a while 😂 and that’s why everyone is miserable
@@Ohana9999 he has said ALOT of stuff to her that is a blatant lie, so whats one more lie to him?
why would he invite her to vegas because she threw a tantrum?
Natalie is nuts, its wrong of her to go off on sophie as if she went after josh.
And also calling Sophie a whore- the woman is unhinged
@ I don’t know what I see in Natalie, when jasmine went off on her she is standing there like a child who got told she did a bad thing. I think she is crazy and she kinda scares me is someway
But Jasmine isn’t nuts? She’s a female narcissist
Jasmine gaslight and triggered Natalie and later she is acting like she didn’t 🙄
How blind are people to not see what Jasmine did .
Maybe Natalie was triggered because of what Josh did and get mad at the wrong person.
@ look at the scene again n watching Jasmine whispering into Natalie’s ear .
That was fucked up honestly.
@bellam7546 that's how Nataly talks... honestly... 😅 Nataly incognito the level of crazy...
Jasmine triggered Natalie, but she didn't gaslight her. She was honest about Josh.
The drama......Natalie is going too far.
And we’re here for it! 😂
@mohammadal-drees3106 hahaha true 🤣
What did Natalie do after this? She didn't fight back?
The glass that Natalie kicked out of Sophie's hand could have landed on someone's bare legs or feet. She could have injured some one. If I were Sophie I would have talked to the producers about being unsafe around Natalie.
It was so triggering watching Jasmine abuse Natalie and the way she grabbed her ear. Jasmine needs to be in a cell. Natalie should sue TLC. The gaslighting is unreal.
she literally broke a glass on her foot lmao and she didnt grab her ear rough or aggressive. It was the threat of something sure, but she didnt actually do something.
Jasmine is the real crazy one ….. she gives Natalie fuel knowing she would go crazy . Then gets mad and turns in her…. Super manipulative and that’s the true crazy person. Natalie is crazy and rude but stupid and impulsive so she poses no real threat .
The best thing for Natalie is to say GOODBYE to Josh . She needs to understand Josh only keeps her around as a Friend and nothing more ! I wish Natalie would find a real man who is all in it for her ❤️
Jasmine totally initiated the fight (on purpose) between those two girls...
I loved when Josh told her absolutely not he was going no where with her 😂😂
The way her face changed immediately after
😂😂😂😂same
I’m so happy that Jasmine put Natalie in her place. 😎♥️👍
lol.... jus two snakes
doin wat they do best
pathetic
But she also started this drama😅
@@naimam3976She didn’t start it, she just revealed it. Everyone was talking about it behind Natalie’s back… she deserved to know. Josh should have been the one to tell her.
@@Monstera1005 Lets be honest Jasmine loves drama and she couldnt wait to tell Natalie, if she really cared she could have told when they were all alone, but she thought it was the perfect timing to tell when Josh was standing close to Sophie.
@@naimam3976 that’s true Jasmine did start it, but Natalie has a screw loose, she didn’t like Sophie from the get-go for no reason at all and talking bad about her to the other women
It’s crazy that Jasmine is saying that Natalie is with a man who doesn’t want her, but isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black???
Projection
@@user-pd3el7yt7sgino makes some effort, natalie hasn’t even been to josh’s house
Jasmine saying natalie is alone when clearly gino didnt want nothing to do with her lmao 😅😂
Josh is clearly playing games with Natalie..what a storm his games and her insecurities. It’s sad to watch.
When Natalie saw her own size for the fight she was looking for in Jasmine she was shaking in her shoes 😂😂😂 where's all the tough fighter when she was in Sophie's face
The internalized misogyny in Natalie is real😮💨
She's from Ukraine, that's the culture.
Jasmine knew what she was doing telling natalie that, she knows how natalie gets dont know why she gets all mad getting caught in the middle of what she provoked
Jasmine smiling the whole time. She instigated everything. She knew what she was doing with that ear worm
Im glad to see Natalie put in her place. Someone needed to tell her she's no better than anyone else. I don't care how it got to that point but it should have been done long ago.
Put in her place for what? I find it cringe that most Natalie haters don't see how Mike and Josh gaslight her and make her look crazy. Jasmine knew how unstable Natalie is and she decided to start shit and now when Natalie states facts, she is crazy and needs to be put in her place? Y'all just hate Natalie cause she's honest and doesn't let people get away with bs.
@bellam7546 maybe you are just like her. All she's done is talk about the other women behind their backs. The show would be a lot better without her
@PatriciaMunsch maybe your just like mike and Josh, both of them ain't better than natalie, and with jasmine?? jasmine is just as fake and her acting like she's putting natalie in her place is cringe af, it's funnier with gino being behind her deep down thinking (look who's talking) 😂
@@seekp2676 I guess you forgot the way she ran Mike down. She's disgusting
That was fucked up. Jasmine knew that Natalie is unstable and she decided to stir the pot and now she's acting innocent.
natalie is pushing 50 and still acting like this
40*
How is it Jasmine fault? She's being a woman.. she's telling another woman that her man is texting another woman and inviting her to Vegas... it's the MANS fault not anyone else! Stop blaming the women
Not tell her at the bar when she’s drinking , then trying to eat popcorn watch a show that Natalie is going to be the fool. Then later go crazy at Natalie when she is already acting like the fool. Jasmine sux
r she did what had to be done
Exactly
But she could've chosen a better time to be a girls girl. Telling Natalie while they are drinking and at the bar was so inappropriate.
@@bellam7546 they were all drunk. she did try restraining nathalie and pointing out who was to blame
"INVITE ME TO VIAYGUS RIGHT NOW!"😡
I’m with Stacey - “oh boy” 😂
Sophie is hotter than Natalie for sure ❤😂
No she’s not. She looks the same age as Natalie.
Hotter and more mature ❤
Don't lie 😂@@Valhalla_Heathen
Nah, if you call the way Sophie behaved maturity then you are dull.
For me Sophie looks like a man, but beauty is relative
natalie is jealous of shopie's relationship because rob really loves her
Not true. Natalie actually sees Sophie for the classless little girl she is.
He cheated on her plenty of times lol
@@bellam7546 so Natalie is very classy? 💀
@@bellam7546they are all classless but sophie is the prettiest girl and nat gets jelly
And don’t forget Julia. Natalie was so rude to Julia. Julia doesn’t like other women.
Julia was freaking rude to Natalie at the last tell all saying all kinds of stuff at Natalie
Because she deserved it ..😂 Natalie is rude af 😒 jealous is a scary thing no wonder she's alone
@@leslienava3076 Jesus is coming back. Please repent to be saved.
@@musingwanderer2765 Jesus is coming back. Please repent to be saved.
Sophie being the youngest of these broads handled it the best lol
Natalie is just pissed that she's not invited to "Viegas" 😂😂😂
Sophie did an amazing job handling the situation.
Nah, Sophie is trash for instigating shit.
Jasmine is so fark up seriously , she stirred the shit drama by being the big mouth . Tried to make Natalie be the fool and then blew up at her when she acted crazy. Jasmine is the worst of all
I mean it’s good she told her. Natalie overreacted like a high schooler.
She wouldn’t dare do that to Angela with her fake chest and face.
@ she chose the worst time tell her, in a club with drinks and emotions run high while Josh is talking to Sophie , with the intention of watching a big fight erupt.
@@musingwanderer2765 I see your point. But Natalie would react like this anywhere she is. She’s toxic
@ I’m not disagreeing that she stirred the pot, she definitely did. These people love the gossip as with any reality show. But Natalie would’ve acted like this at any moment that she found out
Nattlie and Angella would be good friends lol
Natalie -Invite me 2 Vegas
😡😤
Josh Absolutely NOT 🙄
Natalie 😲😳
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Omg Jasmine really went at Natalie at the end 😳🍿😂😂
Jasmine should have been escorted out. She started the entire situation what's wrong with her.
Sophie handled that really well
Jesus is coming back. Please repent to be saved.
@IloveJesus777j77when?
@@nishadh366 SOON. That’s when! 🙄 smart 🍑! Grow up 🙄
Shopie is using Rob all the way form England for attention. She is everywhere, in all seasons complaining about old stuff on and on just be on tv.
Fake fights, fake plot, fake people.
Also did anyone forget... NATALIE IS STILL MARRIED!!!!! Why is she on this show 😂
No mike and her divorce already
Remember how she was always saying Mike was a low class drunk man? And now she is getting wasted and acting crazy on national tv. Nice.
I didnt
Jasmine calling someone insecure when she wouldn’t allow Gino to have female friends lol and is jealous insecure herself. She said that’s why you alone but yet she and Gino aren’t together! Jasmine has mental issues
Of her own. Jasmine is a grown old woman trying to start something and being snitch she could have just kept her mouth shut!!
Jasmines great ..lol
How old are u to be calling a 30something "old" lol 12 ?
Jasmine sweet little Jasmine NOT.. YOU STARTED IT, telling Natalie about Josh inviting Sophine to Los Vegus.!!
I mean Natalie should know. At least now Natalie knows Josh doesn’t want to go anywhere with because she’s so destructive. Then again they’re all drunk af.
She did what had to be done ! She didn't start anything ..Josh and sophie did
Natalie is a gold digger her only interest in Josh is financially she thinks he will buy her anything she wants 😕
he is literally funding her stay in america
@@itrytobegood so? Do not be jealous, it is not your money. He gets something in return
@@jstartech2812 i didn’t say anything that’s not true lol. just adding context to the original comment. stops self projecting . are you jealous of the type of relationship they have?
@@itrytobegood You are so jealous, you keep writing. He funds her in the USA SO WHAT. He is not in chains to do that. I guess this is your first time seeing a man caring for a woman, since you fell from somewhere onto Earth
She acts like Sophie agreed to go to Vegas though. She needs to yell at Josh
FLORIAN IS THE BEST
😅 he is
He’s hilarious 😂
He's making us proud as an Albanian.
Says Jasmine like seriously! How is she going to point a finger when she would have done the same if roles were changed!
The only thing that gets Sophie upset is the truth. Natalie might be on to something. Sophie is an instagram model and she has traveled to Dubai !
Haha Dubai haha 😂😂😂
I thought I was the only one.
Natalie and Josh aren’t even together and she’s crashing out over him. Her anger needs to be directed at Josh because it’s not Sophie’s fault that he doesn’t want her. Rob is pathetic to chill with a guy who was hitting on his wife. I thought this was a couples’ retreat, not for friends😅
Poor Nathalie. Josh, Jasmine and Sophie are professional gaslihters.
JASMINES SO JEALOUS OF NATALIE!! 😂
Lol why would she be jealous of Natalie??
No one is jealous of that itch 😂
Nathaly deserves every single bit. She played Michael wrong.
Why is she not yelling at josh, josh was messaging
She did yell at Josh, are we watching the same show.
Natalie is unhinged.
She needs Lamotrigine.
I really don’t blame Natalie for going off at all. If any of these other girls found out their man was doing this just imagine. Jasmine told Natalie right when Sophie is at the bar talking to Josh. Like I’d be livid especially if someone came to me at that timing with that bs. Hoping Natalie leaves this guy though.
Natalie shouldn’t even be still on 90 day fiancé, as she has NO fiancé lol. Natalie is upset and frustrated because she can’t keep a man, can’t get the man she wants. That’s what the situation with Mike was all about, and truth be told she should’ve been deported a long damn time ago. She clearly used Mike for that green card! Mike actually loved her, but she thought he and his home were beneath her so she left as a married woman moved across the country to Florida and what does she do for a living again? Besides living off the American dollar?💀. I love Natalie’s mother, but Natalie was raised by a single mother because she was abandoned by her father at an early age so the mother gassed her head up, telling her how pretty she was so she would feel special. Natalie gets to the US and sees there are more attractive levelheaded women than she, that have a man she so desperately wants, that can get pregnant, all the things she desires and has always wanted. Natalie has been married and divorced three times. I believe Natalie’s miss placed ego allowed her to believe she would have plenty of time to find Mr. right but now that biological clock is ticking and she realizes she has not accomplished much of what she actually wanted. I hope if she finds an available man because I believe Josh is not emotionally or even physically available for a relationship, that she will try to stick with him this time try to work things out instead of running.
I can’t believe that guy Josh can’t even comfort Natalie ! As a woman we just want assurance when we feel jealous just say the words i love you im here for you im never going to hurt you! And that’s it
natalie deserves a guy that would invite her to vegas 😢
Jasmine chose the wrong environment to bring it up to Natalie tho. She could’ve/had plenty other appropriate times to mention it to her. Why AS he’s talkin to Sophie in front of her KNOWING Natalie’s insanely dramtic + drinks in the mix. She reacted childish. She has every right to be mad but GIRL, learn to handle it like a boss. Not a toddler.
I think Jasmine is one of the worst people to appear on the show. I used to like her, but she's so toxic. Dancing with Bini when she knows it would upset Ari. If Gino even glanced at another woman, she would flip! She then drops the Josh bomb and then gets mad at her reaction! She seems to forget we've seen her childish tantrums and unreasonable behavior.
😂🤣 Jasmine shut Natalie right up👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Sophie knew what the hell she was doing! She knew how dramatic Natalie can be that’s why she chose to respond and share it with the others. If she had any respect she would have kept that to herself or told Natalie. Sophie kept giving Josh that “say something” look. Like he was gonna be her savior. I think the only reason he did say something was because he knows he is guilty and he wanted to twist the story before Sophie told the truth. Just look at the expression she gave when he said he asked her if she’s BEEN to Vegas.
Side note: isn’t it crazy how Josh is hitting on Sophie and rob was supposedly so upset about it but he didn’t seem so upset when they were talking at the club. I think that’s what set Natalie off. She was fine before finding out what he did. I mean I would have acted the same if my man did that. It’s mad disrespectful. People always cause problems then blames the person for reacting.
I cant believe im saying it but in this case im on Natalies side. Everyone was extremely mean to her here.
I totally get Natalie.
Wow Jasmine really put her in her place, Natalie didn't dare to say a word. lol
This is why I believe you need to reflect and have a mind of your own, especially when you're hurt. I'm pretty sure Natalie got all hyped up because Jasmin encouraged her too, then she ended up in Natalie's face when she got extra. Now everyone is singling her out as the bad guy for taking it too far, but she's just hurt. Isolation and reflection is definitely important when you're angry or hurt.
True.
Someone tell Jasmine that the only person she scares is Gino. Natalie didn't flinch 😂
Jasmine starting everything and playing innocent
5:06 Good for Sophie for staying calm
She’s definitely an ENBG haha
Perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. cause uhh jasmine who is spoiled and impatient? 🤣🤣🤣
Natalie is what people refer to today as a crash out 😂 so sad
Why isn’t Sophie showing the text messages from Josh? Kinda sus
They showed the texts on TV to the viewers. However, if I were in Sophie's place I would also not show those texts while people are screaming and cursing at me. Sophie offered to talk to Natalie privately. Natalie blew her chances to see the texts right there.
@@ozlemsuleyman9760 really? I must have missed that. I would def show them to clear my name.
@@Kells33 It was in the first episode when Sophie and Rob were talking about it, the producers displayed a few screenshots of the messages from Josh to Sophie so that the viewers see them.
Josh even admits about it to the group (when Natalie is not around) in the bar. Then, he lies to her. No one can be honest about it to Natalie.
I understand your thought process of clearing names, but Natalie can simply attack anyone who is involved simply because Josh messaged them. "Why did you respond to him? You are a married womaaaaan. He invited you and you did not cuuurse at him. WHHYYYY? YOU HOOOKER."
Talking condescendingly to someone who is in a crisis and is ganged up by everyone doesn’t help
And bullied, Rob and Sophie laughing at her. Cause she’s the crazy Ukrainian right?
Of course she's a creepy psycho.
Natalie is cringe af 😂
ENBG you got a tongue ring?
Nah im over jasmine trying to play both sides like she didnt start it
Jasmine, you got what you paid for! 😂
I appreciate friends that tell me the truth
Jasmine knew when she told Natalie that Josh liked Sophie that she was lighting a fire. I've never seen Jasmine stir the pot like that then pretend that she didn't do anything wrong. She deliberately fired Natalie up. Natalie is right that Jasmine started that fight. If the tables were turned Jasmine would have behaved exactly like Natalie. Jasmine dancing with Beni is another situation that would have made her mad if it were Gino dancing with Arie. It seems to be ok for Jasmine but not anyone else to behave like a fool. Sophie got caught in the crossfire and didn't deserve to be treated the way she was. She can't help she's beautiful
Brandon knew who he married. But that dancing on the bar showing her whoo haa was wrong. You were embarrassing your husband acting like that Julia. Also Rob was enjoying them fighting. I loved the way Bini was dancing with Jasmine, he could get down. I think they are all immature actually. They are all acting like they have the perfect relationship. I am glad Josh finally put his foot down with crazy ass Natalie.
I really hope Brandon and Julia break up
Julia doesn’t want to have a child. Brandon is a mama’s boy, and he can’t force her to have a child. So I don’t even see how they can work out.
Its very obvious her feelings for Brandon are not genuine anymore. She already cheated, and wants a way out. She is a huge flirt lol.
@@belgiumgirl8970he’s a lot more mature than her though. You can tell she’s trying to live through her fun 20s and Brandon is over that stage already. They are on 2 different paths and I hope Brandon dodges this bullet. Julia is a honeybee who wants to explore all of the different nectars before coming back home. Just like how Natalie did to Mike.
@@lesleytorres5080 shell become another Natalie. Delusional assuming all men want her. Nope might use her but unlike both husband's don't love her.
Brandon needs to run!! Julia is an immature, self-centered brat!!
It’s a shame Julia doesn’t realise what a great man her husband is. He loves her and is totally committed to her.
She’s acting like an immature, messy brat.
She's not acting!!