How Sid Meier Almost Made Civilization a Real-Time Strategy Game | War Stories | Ars Technica
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- Sid Meier, the creator of the popular Civilization video game series, goes behind the scenes of the development of the franchise's first entry. Sid explains some of the challenges they came across while transitioning the game from real-time to turn-based strategy.
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Hi there. Welcome to the latest episode of War Stories. We took a bit of a hiatus but are now back in full force. We were lucky enough to get time with the legendary Sid Meier for this episode. We really appreciate all the feedback we see in the comments, here as well as on arstechnica.com. Please let us know if you have any questions or requests for upcoming episodes. We've got a fantastic slate ahead of us.
@@paddyotterness That's great to know. Is there anyone you've got in mind?
Sid is a massive gaming world legend. I started played Civ on 286.
What about the guy who made "castle of the winds"?
Hmm...
I think you should double it.
... or cut it in half.
@@arstechnica I would love to see an interview with the people who made Battletech Crescent Hawks Inception and Battletech Crescent Hawks Revenge in the late 1980s. The developer was Westwood Associates and the publisher was Infocom.
Imagine being able to say that you created civilization
Neither can Sid
He really seemed to enjoy that, huh?
@@SacchieILU right first there was the board game then the computer version. but still a great achievement.
Welcome to my new religion. Sid Meier is God.
@Aaron Z. There's a Civ game coming to PS4?
I play a quick game for 9 hours.
Sounds about right. Probably a cultural victory on later games with that kind of rapid speed.
@@Smokecall I could actually hit 19th century in 9 hours. Just couldn't stop because everything got complicated at that era.
Eh... a bit too quick. A fast game would last for 5 days to a week.
@@BasedAlaric oh yeah, in multiplayer terms, that is a fast game. Especially if the start is 1 city 4000 bc instead of accelerated starts that later civ titles allow
9 hours is not enough - it's only third.
so this is the guy thats responsible for my lack of social interaction
dont't worry, you socilize with other nations! you can put it on your CV
haha, dont hate the player, hate the game.
Dont hate CIV, its only good!
Hahaha, I remember losing much sleeping time trying to beat Civ (the original) at Emperor level
@@onisuryaman408 Civ (the original) at Emperor level, was easy. First, you research the wheel and get chariots. Then you can conquer Eurasia/Africa quickly with two chariots by saving before each attack. Next, research triremes and sail to America with your chariots and conquer that. Lastly, Australia, but you don't conquer the last civ. You force it to become a settler and trap it in the mountains while you build across the map. Your score will be unbeatable.
Sid Sid Sid.....Saving two generations of kids from the harmful effects of sun shine & fresh air.🌑⏳
😄
Truth! Sunshine LITERALLY causes cancer!
A hero through and through
Just 2 generations?
probably like two and a half.
the later half of gen x
millennials
gen z
This guy is bigger than any actor or rock star for nerds.
Infinite respect!
That's something ONLY a nerd WOULD say on youtube comments :P
Video game nerds* as a proud nerd myself I’d rather meet Tony Schaloub aka mr monk….but Meier is pretty damn close!
Sid Meier needs to do a let’s play video of Civ 1. That would be gold.
He could play as Gandhi and nuke everybody.
Or even the newest edition, that might make more profitable news for the game.
Everybody gangsta till you notice you can't see fog of war
Thing is you often find that developers of games like this suck at their own games, they pretty much just give the player the tools to play then leave them to it.
@@24magiccarrot If I was to make a game I have not the slightest doubt that I would be truly terrible at it.
I love how Sid Meier addresses the Nuclear Gandhi meme at the beginning.
It's not a meme. Civilization was invented before the internet was. Probably before you were born.
@Shawn Hughes and the word meme was coined in the early 70's by Richard Dawkins in The Selfish Gene.
@@shawnhughes4192
Sid Meier's Civilization: 1991
World Wide Web: 1989
Don't even ask about the internet itself. Way before you were born.
@@aexetan2769 You are cherry-picking dates and playing semantics with words. The web, as we know it, didn't exist before 1991, and ubiquitous access to the web didn't happen until a few years after that. And Internet memes didn't exist for at least a decade after that.
@@nicholasneyhart396 Congratulations, you can use Google. The internet meme, which is what is being referred to here, didn't exist before approximately the early 00's and claiming otherwise is disingenuous. If someone claimed they used the first printer in the early 70's, would you claim that Gutenberg actually crated the first printer in the mid 15th century? Context. It's a thing.
😍 Sid!
This is adorable
Fix AI in Civ 6! It sucks at war! Easiest in the series!
@@kenbee1957 Thanks, Ken! Appreciate your support. :)
cute!
Fix railroad tycoon
When two nerds ask each other "what's cooler than railroads"...
big fax... lol
I laughed out loud
It's actually heartbreaking when Sheldon explains why he loves trains.
A billion railroads
..and they go ZA WARUDO
"Germans capture Athens. 1 Gold pieces plundered" .. totally worth it
**Blitzkrieg intensifies**
Sounds like what EU got back from athens during the recent crisis
that sums up the 2008 financial crisis pretty nicely...
Lol exactly, still happening! IMF, WORLD BANK, EU
drunkensailor112 Hahahhahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha!
"Just one more turn"
*two hours later*
Mom: "you said one more turn"
Me: "Yeah im about halfway done the turn"
It wasn't only Civ. You had Master of Magic, Master of Orion and X-Com: Enemy Unknown all great turn based games that only got better.
Wow.... this comment is so relatable 😂😂😂😂
Me : so I'll just play 1 game for the day
9:00 pm and I'm only at turn 298
That's me playing Total War.
Literally me and my friend playing civ 6 last night to 4am
Being physically disabled, I'm so glad the decision to make the game turn-based happened! I can take my time in making decisions enabling me to play one of my favorite games
what type of physical disability?
@@iamwhatyouseeinyournightma708 a rare type of muscular dystrophy, genetic disorder of the peripheral nervous system that basically weakens the muscles slowly over time. losing the ability to walk at age 13 and my fingers have slowly over the years got weaker and unusable contracted into fists around age 25.
as I get older I adapt and figure out how to make things work to get by. often relying on new technology to help
@@zipzeolocke2like father stu?
@@henrybierman8431 I've never heard of that movie, I had to look it up and watch a trailer
“It starts small”
It sure does and then 6 hours later my computer is gasping for air trying to get to the next turn.
Bro in all my years I thought Sid was like dead or something like Tom Clancy.
@James Walker yeah he's died in 2016 iirc. Last book was the book version of Act of Valor.
I thought he was dead when I got the original version of colonization in 1996 or 1997, imagine my surprise when I see he’s alive like 24 years later.
I was just talking about Civilization with my mom the other day and she told me he's been dead for a while. Unless "a while" is less than a year ago, she's wrong.
I thought it was the name of the studio 😂
You weren't alone. Civ 1 was ported to the SNES. One reviewer said it was so bad that Sid Meiers was "rolling in his grave". That was like 1998 😑
Side note It's actually a pretty good port. I have it on my phone. Prefer it to the Dos version, on a mobile device at least.
So cool to hear Sid himself talking about this stuff.
@Mohan Sandal
Not related, but true...
It's great to hear Teller from Penn and Teller finally talking!
Ok when he said "hi, I'm Sid Meier" I was like "oh yeah, his name is not Sid Meier's"
Sid Meier's Sid Meier
Sid "Sid Meier's Civilization" Meier
It isn't?
I legit had the same reaction.
Me too!
So, when I was 11 years old and started to understand how this game works that was honestly the most exhilarating time in my life. I remember having butterflies in my stomach when school was almost over and was literally physically sick, trembling and shaking in excitement when I got to finally come home and play. Of course, my parents believed this game to be the work of the devil, but for me it was the most engaging and happy time I can remember. Even now, I still play civ6 and it's a great game.
So many fond memories of late nights creating worlds with this series.
Haha. I got into civ 3 when i was younger and I'd always play like..an hour then activate some cheats. Didn't have the patience until I was in college...many college classes were cut because of this man.
Your parents sound like mine back in the day. Games are evil!
Shoulda told your parents it was educational and shown them one of the technology text screens.
*points at screen* “see, I’m learning about bronze working!”
@@Palocles it definitely was educational. I got asked "who was the king of ancient Babylon" in 4th year med, and thanks to civ 3 was able to confidently respond "king hammurabi". Which was met with a blank look from the orthopaedic surgeon and the comment that you should never ask a question to which you don't know the answer.
SID MEIER is a legend in my household. I can't express how many hours of yelling at Gandhi took place in my home.
I was yelling at Hammurabi .
@@M.Ghilas and i at Boudicca in civ V (my first civ game) she always betrayed me
@@nicolasinvernizzi6140 Civ 5 is my favourite it's really good but I didn't have frustrating moments like Civ 1 the reason I hated Hammurabi that he was always getting Tanks out of nowhere.
Alexander in Civ V and VI, Hardrada In Civ VI
Can't believe you got the science advisor to speak on your show!
hahahahaaha
He was probably doing the intelligence advisor on the side....😁
Dude, I just had a revelation that he's the civ 3 science advisor. Thanks!
ha ha ha ha , only a civ nerd would know the significance of that comment! Believe me, I do!
A man speaking proudly about having created one of the most evil things of all time.
My water-bill was basically zero the month I got Civ2.
You got back the money
@@Dicaso9 Very true!
@@Dicaso9 No, cos water is very cheap. Electricity spent on escaping into the game world was much more expensive.
I wanted to say thank you for Civilization. Sid Meier helped me through a very tough time in my life. In 2006 I survived an inoperable ruptured brain aneurysm, follow by two heart attacks and (to date) seven strokes. The left side of my body was gone, unable to talk, read, walk, but my beautiful wife started my at home rehabilitation very a vengeance. One of the things she did was have me sit with Civilization. I had been playing it since it first came out, and she felt it would help sparking my brain back into action. It worked, slowly at first but it worked. I still suffer from stroke related seizures and migraines, but I went from a death bed to a wheelchair to a walker, a cane, but finally walking on my own with a slight limp. My recovery is not 100% but due to my wife sitting me down in front of your amazing game it helped immeasurably. I still play Civ 5 on a regular basis - sorry I don’t like 6, poor graphics and everything takes so long for turns. I just wanted to say thank you for helping me recover.
incredible story :D thanks for sharing and good luck on the rest of your recovery!
When I was 12 I was left alone at home for the week-end. I started playing Friday afternoon until Sunday afternnon non-stop. 48 hours straight no sleep.
lol, yip
my similar experience was with Diablo, but I did go to sleep :).
The longest time I ever played Civ non-stop only around 12 hours, U mad bro 🤯
@@snuffeldjuret D2 ;D
My record would have been about 12-15 hours for CIV IV. My all time record was 20 hours with Skyrim.
Back in the early 90s, my parents made me go to a dinner with them at my dads bosses house. He let me play games on his computer and the first one i picked was Civilization. I was hooked. Ive bought every one since, including every expansion or map packs. Im 39 years old, and I still play an occasional game to relax, though now i play on a 70” tv as a monitor with a second 70” next to it for movies.
I wouldnt have wanted my own computer as a kid. I wouldnt have learned electronics and circuits. I wouldnt have found my calling as an Electronics Technician in the Navy. And i wouldnt have my current job running the unix based display system and associated inputs. My grave should have on it that I just wanted one more turn...
this is amazing
Nice 👌
Nice 👌
I'm a little younger, but same story... living the life.
Good storytelling. Do the tvs sit directly beside each other or is one at an angle for when you look over at it
"You're almost not playing in the moment, you're playing into the future....and that future is just 1 more turn ahead" ---> yup, he just summed up the addictiveness of this game!! Been playing the Civilization series since Call to Power II in the early 2000's, and currently enjoying Civ 6 and its expansions.
Civilization I was my very first PC game after Warcraft: Orcs and Humans. I played the CIV series and peaked at CIV IV. I played CIV V very briefly and was sorely disappointed.. I felt they nerfed it to appease a more general crowd such as the artwork becoming more cartoony, the unrealism that even in the year 2000 there would be about a 1/3 of the land math still not claimed by a nation-state, etc. I didn't even bother with CIV VI and now get my grand strategy fix with Europa Universalis and Hearts of Iron :)
@@roseforeuropa Also played every iteration from the first one on, easily thousands of hours combined. I think the recent streamlining has both its pros and cons, but mostly I see it as a positive development. Games (especially later on) tend to flow much smoother now that there's no finicky management of "stacks of doom" and you can (and have to) play combat more strategically as opposed to just pumping out more units and steamrolling with sheer quantity. In terms of logistics and supply chains this seems more realistic as well.
The hex system is also arguably better as it makes all directions equal and removes the kind of OP weirdness of diagonal movement.
I also really like the district system from Civ VI as it adds another much needed layer of depth and meaningful decision-making in the city-building (and planning!) to allow for and reward actual specialization of each city, whereas before you would eventually build just about everything everywhere anyway, which makes for a very repetitive process with very little thought involved.
Separating the technology and civic trees also makes sense, and the eureka/inspiration boosts make for an interesting new mechanic to reward a more balanced approach as opposed to cheesier strategies that play almost solely into your one strength. Having said that, the differentiation between civilizations and leaders has also added some interesting variables into the mix. I think it's currently a pretty good balance overall, with all kinds of interesting dilemmas.
The other new additions like natural disasters are more cosmetic, but don't hurt either.
I'll give you the unclaimed land thing, although that's highly dependent of map size and type and the amount of civilizations in the game. I think it also keeps the late game more interesting when every inch of land hasn't been claimed yet. The city territories can also be viewed as more of a de facto developed part of your empire, whereas the political borders are intentionally left more ambiguous and debatable. Territorial disputes can and do happen to this day, and it would be kind of superfluous and excessive to include in the game such on-paper ownership of remote areas that doesn't involve actually settling in or utilizing them in any way. Settling near foreign territories is made more challenging without being outright impossible, which makes for some enticing expansion gameplay all the way to the end, allowing for sneaky land grabs and "culture bombing" around strategic resources and locations all that.
In the end the main priority should always be keeping the gameplay continually interesting, IMO, and if that means some hand-wavy solutions in terms of strict realism then so be it. In a sense I think it's always been one of the key strengths of the Civilization games that they leave many of the details vague enough to not get bogged down by such technicalities that could never be simulated fully accurately and comprehensively anyway. Either way, it's always nice to have options available for every kind of grand strategy itch.
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The 1st game I played wad Colonization, I love that game! Than it was 2,3,4,5, and I just picked up Civ6 for my PS4. Only other game that remotely comes close to the Civ series and Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Even in this day and age and the technology we have those are still my favorites!
@@kitzschy ^THIS you don't get many games like this, 6 games into the series and still well polished and true to the spirit of the original while adding more depth and keeping up with the times. Civ 5 was also very amazing and idk what OP meant by "cartoony" civ5 graphics, as civ5 is more "realistic" and civ 6 is more "cartoony"
Directory name is “civilize” because back then file and directory names couldn’t be longer than eight characters :)
You're absolutely right. And that just tell everyone how old we are. Computer sure were fun back then. Cheers!
That's names like deadmau5 were born.
If I remember, the final release directory was even shorter, just Civ
@@yahyaatiya1136 no, it was definitely civilize. Maybe later versions were civ though.
long filenames came with windows 95, was it up to 256 letters?
10:33
We fired up the computer *quite literally I might add*
this format where the central iconic people explain their stories with no interruptions is brilliant. thanks very much and please keep it up.
The first time I played Civilization, I played it for 34 hours straight. I never played any game for that length of time since.
I download Civ V last Friday.
I didn’t get any sleep at all Friday night and Saturday night.
“One more turn… One more turn … oh look it’s daylight outside”
@@notmenotme614 I had Civ 5 but I had to get rid of it because it was too addictive! Such a jump between Prince and King on Civ 5. It's like going from Prince to Emperor in Civ 1
@@notmenotme614 Get the "Vox Poluli" mod for Civ 5.
It literally makes it a new game.
That palace building from Civ1 really hit me in the nostalgia feels. Can still feel the excitement when the popup came and you had to pick the style of the addition to your palace. Hard to believe that was almost 30 years ago...
That ending! Seeing Sid using his old computer was somehow magical. I never heard about that spy game, seems really cool!
That man is a legend of gaming. I still play Railroad Tycoon, Covert Action, and Colonization. Age hasn't diminished the gameplay.
I laughed hard when he said that they haven't switched off the computer for a year. Hahahaha
I loved that first version and played it for more hours than I can remember. You'd develop a grudge against one of the AI opponents, and it was do or die. Truly deserving of its iconic status.
This man's game gave history more meaning than did my formal education. Thank you, Sid.
Exactly, I learnt history thanks by him
i like history because of Civ game
Civilization should be in every school
What a Legend. You literally changed my life M. Meier.
Wow, thought Sid Meier would be really old by now, he is looking fine.
He's a legend in gaming history far as I'm concerned. He helped to create and popularise a genre of games. One that is my all time favorite. Thanks Sid!
Spartan265 agreed. Without Sid Meier, we wouldn’t have the wonderful 4X genre.
Man, I'd love an hour or ten to volley questions at him. Just hearing him talk about the Valley of Dispair was validating and relieving
This series always gives me vibes of old G4 shows, especially of the show "Icons". Lots of stories you'd never hear otherwise.
How could any human being downvote this video? Sid Meier is a gem.
That would be Gandhi. He would normally like, share, and subscribe but when the aggression wraps around...
You get all of the coolest interviews! Keep it up!
One of my favorite developers. Love to hear him talk about his work. Always inspired afterwards!
1:58 Just realised Sid makes a cameo in his own game!
He also appears as a leader in through the ages board game
Ah, I see that you've never played the Tutorial of Civilizations 4. I highly recommend it. It's the worst/best tutorial for a game I've ever played.
Jchrispole thanks! I’ll go check it out
@@yoshi92491 was just about to say that as well hehe :D.
He's the science advisor in civ 3.
Simply amazing. We are so thankful to you Sid!
For me…still the best game ever made. I‘m playing it since 20 years…and it fascinates me every time again
Thank you Sid Meyer for enriching my childhood so much with this game, and thank you Ars Technica for this awesome interview!
Thank you Sid for all the games you've given us! They truly unique and amazing!
I still play Civ2, Test of time in 2019. Love it.
Test of Time is amazing. Certainly one of the best.
I hope they backed up everything on those computers to floppy and transferred the files to a modern PC for proper backup!
I remember playing this in Compsci class in 6th grades back in the 90's. I also love the Mage Wars board game in the background.
Thank you Sid for all the wonderful hours you gave me and my dad with this game, my dad introduced me to Civilization 1 back when I was still about 6-7 years old, I've been hooked on the game series ever since, I still own all of them
Hi Sid, thank you for giving me thousands of hours to learn, play and grow. thank you for making my childhood better.
Really interesting stuff, weird to think how the real time grand strategy did not seem to fit the genre but did eventually happen with Europa Universalis
The guy that helped create my fascination with history and helped me be ahead of everyone in school when going over different topics. Since I had already played the scenario a few weeks before class and read all the Civpedia stuff on the scenario.
He was able to succinctly define the "one more turn" phenomenon in a way I never would've been able to. So many nights playing until 3am in the morning even though I had school, and later in life, work the next day.
Wow... It's Sid!! I finally seen the guy who gave me literal years of enjoyment as a kid and even now as a 43yr old man playing Civ!!!!!!
Thankyou Sid for such an enjoyable series (Mostly) :)
This is an awesome interview, Sid Meier seems like a really nice guy! And he really does look like Civ 3's science advisor, I wonder why...
These have been really great, thanks for creating this amazing content!
Thank you for everything, Mr. Meier.
This the most addictive game IO ever played. Every version from CIV 1 , I end up playing in the wee ours of the morning of a major test day
1:54 That green square over Caesar's left shoulder. I always thought there was something wrong on my screen when I saw that.
Omg, I haven't played this game for maybe 25 years and seeing those images now, a nostalgia overload definitely kicked in :D :D
Civ and Pirates are such great games that capture your time for a long time. Love this.
Also Spearmen fighting tanks lol.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The trick is, at the beginning a turn takes 3 minutes. By the time it's 2AM, and you have a largish civ, "one more turn" takes 2 hours.
My first Civ game was Civ IV & definitely hooked me as I was that one more turn player LOL. As the most played Civ game for me would be Civ V, bar none.
This series is so well produced. The presentation is superb and the content is really engaging. Keep up the great work.
One of my all time favourite games! And Sid Meyer is such a legend!
Sid Meier and Brian Reynolds are true grandmasters.Civ. games are always in my top 5.
My Amiga 2000 was fed a steady diet of Microprose games. RIP this great company.
Love these war stories video series. Here's hoping for more !
I totally forgot about that adding on to your castle bit. That was one of my favorite parts, they should bring that back.
“The game that makes you want to take just one more turn” that describes my experience with civilization perfectly.
Me last night at 9pm: “ok one more turn then off to bed.”
Me at 1am: “ok just one more turn”
Me at 3am “oh my god what time is it? Ok just one more turn”
Better title: How Sid Meier almost created Age of Empires
I loved this game, played a lot of hours from a ram drive. Still have the original floppies. Thanks a bunch Sid for giving me many many hours of joy.
Exactly how I remembered it! :-D sooooo nice to dive into so young memories (and still enjoying new releases)
I was raised on Sid Meiers Alpha Centauri, the game that taught me that even after almost destroying ourselves once, we are more than determined enough to try again!
Me too. I still play it sometimes, even though it's 20 years old now and my 20 year old PC barely works. lol
This man is a national treasure. NOBODY TOUCH HIM. I need him around the create games for my offspring.
Great interview. It's a real gem to hear about the trials of real and successful designers. A shame we couldn't get the feedback from the entire team. He Valley of Desire concept is brilliant.
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for this.
I wish Firaxis would partner up with OpenAI so we can have AI's that provide a challenge to humans without any buffs.
That is actually an interesting idea...
I could smell my pc burning.
Maybe the tech tree was the first in a computer game, but there's a pretty convincing card based analog in the Hartland Trefoil game Civilization from 1980.
I had a C64 and an A1200 (still do actually) and I spent HOURS on Sid Meier's games. LOVED Pirates and Civilization. When games had books with them (still have the original disks/books).
Fantastic to see this. THANK YOU for this.
Most of my favorite games from the 80s & 90s were from Sid. He is an awesome talent!!
This guy looks like he runs a hardware store in a small town, not one of the most famous strategy game series ever.
I understand why rich white guys dress ironically conscious or not, I just don't like it or agree remotely.
@@sleepsleeper4466 Not sure what your comment is implying, but many wealthy people dress "average" because they genuinely don't care about wearing expensive clothing.
@@Wheelio Not sure what your comment is implying, but many wealthy people dress "pretentiously bad" because they genuinely, like every human ever do care what others think of them on a conscious or unconscious level, and wish for it to be "he's one of us", not, "he doesn't care"
@@sleepsleeper4466 yeah, I just don´t tink people like Sid Meier or Bill Gates dress pretentiously bad. They are nerds and I really don´t think their priority is how they dress.
@@sleepsleeper4466 Project more about how self conscious and phony you are.
This was wonderful, it was especially great when he broke out the original dev PC and showed us that. Fantastic interview, please keep it up! :)
Sid Meier = Genius. Thanks you for the hours and hours of enjoyment you've created for me! :)
This man squandered so much of my childhood ... those one more turns ended being thousands!
Playing civ 6 all week . Everytime I looked up and it was 4 o'clock in the morning 😂
Played Civilization 1 this summer for the first time in maybe 17 years or so. The nostalgia was almost unbearable, was impossible to stop playing :P.
I love everything about this. Been hooked on Civilization since day one. Seeing the computer on which it was made was an awesome feeling. No Civ title ever disappointed, and Sid always delivered something new, and exciting with each new game. Keep up the great work, Sid. Thank you for countless hours of fun, and wonder. And now if you'll excuse me, I need to get back at Gandhi.
I've watched so much Ars Technica, can't believe I wasn't already subscribed...
Whenever I'm playing Civ my wife asks "hows the crack?" lol.
Lmao
I love it. Like others have said, this man is responsible for thousands of hours of gameplay on my end. Which brings up the question. Isn't it high time for a re-release of Civ 1 with updated graphics? Can we do the same for Civ 4?
Hell no. Just redo Civ2
I get what your going for. Like haveing a smarter enemy to play against instead of spawning enemy units for the player to destroy, right?
God I wish. Literally a favorite prayer of mine.
Watching this made me feel so good. Great times. Great game.
That was a great interview. No petty politics or cheap shots. Just the good stuff.
Either Rome or the Mongols were always the two nations (when playing on Earth) that I would pick from, and I'd always recreate the game until I started with two settlers. If I started as Rome, I'd always send my other settler to capture Berlin or Paris. When it was Berlin, got a free extra city right off the bat. Good times...
I was trying to remember which was the best to start with, thanks!
Carlos Dudas no worries!
Interesting
😁👍🏼 Sid it is a huge honor to meet you; I never got the chance to play your past works. I only took interest in Civilization VI out of curiosity. I had a feeling it was going to be an awesome game, so I bought it.
I like his boardgame collection in the background. Some good choices there!