End Game Under $300?: HiBrew H10A Review
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Controversial, but I think this is better value for money than what James reviewed today.
really isn't controversial
@@bigplaneenergy8674 controversial, but i think it might be sarcasm
Thing is, when James reviewed the Lidl/Aldi machine that looked like this, he didn't even drink the espresso! Come on James, go to Lance's house in Portugal and tell us what you think 🫠
@@yayicecream2600 it wasnt.
He got to keep the gold plated cup. Does this machine come with one of those?😂
That included tamper puts a lot of "premium" manufacturers, with their embarrassing plastic tampers to shame.
insane to think I spent more on a gaggia that included a pathetic plastic tamper.. that didn't even fit the included basket properly
yeah, you can cheap out in a lot of other things, but the tamper and portafilter are things that you're literally using/touching every time you're going to make a coffee, I can't comprehend that some machines still came with that spoon-tamper thing.
Mine is a 58 mm . (not 58.25) So it leaves some small gap in typical basket
I mean I'd be kinda okay with a plastic tamper in a cheap machine... If they'd properly shape it, so it is not just flat!
the cheap, plastic tampers included with cheaper machines from "premium" brands is such a weird concept to me, when you spend $150 or more on a machine. when a decent tamper (full metal or metal with a wooden handle) costs as little as $5-10 (retail), and yeah it wont be the best tamper to ever tamp, but it will be miles ahead of the plastic bullshit they ship with now, even if they increase the price of the machine by that $5 to cover the cost of the tamper so it doesn't "eat into their profit margin", as someone shopping for a entry level machine i would pick the machine that costs $5-10 more that comes with what looks to be fancy accessories.
"It's that. Whatever that means, that's what it is."
I laughed out loud.
This looks great for $300 I'm really impressed with all the cool stuff the Chinese are coming out with in the coffee realm.
It’s on sale now for like $200 in China. However there aren’t many Chinese budget espresso grinders to choose from.
@samsi1497 there's plenty.
Are we actually looking at a bargain here….I think we are, Lance being excited about it is huge
Man, it is nice to have a low budget espresso machine option. I will probably buy it.
Thank you for doing a review of this budget option 🙌
These are the best videos, IMO. I understand the appeal and insterest in innovation and cream of the crop tools, but I can't help feeling a bit "bad" when watching something I could never afford in a million years.
Thanks for the review, Lance.
Lance I found your channel about a month ago when I decided it was time to up my espresso game, and I LOVE it. While this machine may not be in my future plans, watching how you analyze the intricacies of these machines, and how you alter variables inspires me and I really appreciate the content!
I dig reviews like this. Love seeing the full capacity of options that a budget machine creates.
Glad that you and Morgan are show case cheap espresso machines and technoques to get the best shot out of them.
I definitely enjoyed this video more than the last few ones, especially the second part with the "experiments." I know we talked about how we all can learn from the expensive machines but for some reason I feel more willing to try these "experiments" when I see them in a cheaper machine or done more manually, since those expensive machines have a lot of programing and software that my machine does not. In all, fun video, thanks for balancing the expensive stuff with down to earth things too. Also, the "live" review was a fun touch.
So much to learn so little time...thank you Lance for helping out the brew challenged !
Omg I can’t wait for that next review. I am so excited
❤ Thanks so much. I have this machine in the kitchen. Doing blooming style tomorrow then.
Love this review! Great job!
Great review Lance! Please keep reviewing equipment at all price points.
This might be my first espresso machine thanks to this review haha
Lance, thank you , I appreciate everything you do!, now! This showed me that you are one of the best!
Super interesting. Love your reviews!
I own this machine some months now. By opening the steam wand at the later half of the brewing time to sort of pressure profiling is a revelation! I bought the machine from mainland China from Taobao which costed less than US$180. Very enjoyable little machine indeed.
Interesting content. Thank you for showing the whole gambit of machines
im a noob coffee enthusiast so i thought to have this machine. its been more than a month now that i have this and i don't even thought about this things done by by mr lance. thank you for this review and experimentations. it really maximizes the machine's full potential. ☺️🙏🙏🙏
What a cool little machine! So cool, and great review!
This was fun. Thanks mucho for reviewing a budget machine.
I have been using this machine for some time now, never realized I could do pre-infusion like this, and that flow control hack! Thanks for this awesome review and tips!
Great video, loved it!
Nice! It is truly fascinating how the quality coffee sphere becomes more affordable to people of different wealth😍
always a good job Lance! enjoy this review....
This machine is like the single "boiler" version of my apex. Great value. Thanks for the review, Lance!
I am so blown away by using the steam wand to lower pressure on the puck. I’m going to use the hell out of this.
The tip to use the steam wand to lower the flow rate towards the end is so simple and brilliant, thank you Lance!
thank you for ur review in it . its in my wishlist for couuple of month now
Clever way to profile the pressure,n some good beatboxin too 🙏🏼
It's glorious to see how you pull a very appetising cappuccino from such a budget product. I'm glad to hear that I no longer need to sell both kidneys to buy a hand grinder. Great content, Lance!
I really like the texture of the machine, it is very simple to use, I make a cup of coffee every morning, I really like this machine.
Nice machine. nice and fun review! Thank you bro!
Machines like this make me want to frankenstein some of their components to create an even better machine
I own this machine and have had it for a while. I initially had somehow mixed feelings with it in the beginning, especially with lighter roasts. No matter what I did, I always got super sour espresso with it.
After trying out the blooming techniques on the machine, I feel like it is really capable machine.
I also own a flair58, and use both of machines. Although the flair58 gives you full control over the shot and you can make better espresso, but it is still a double edged knife (you can end up messing it up)
I do feel like you need to grind a bit coarser for this machine, because of the high preassure the machine creates.
I’m not sure how it compares to the gaggia classic pro, but I can say it is great value for the money - with the right workflow-techniques.
Hibrew also makes grinders, and I own their g5. I’m eager to watch a review for it, because I was thinkinng of getting eureka mignion specialista or niche zero, just to see if it is worth upgrading.
Thanks for thir great review Lance ! I just bought it on Aliexpress for 180€ shipped from and to France !
I have mine for 9 months already here in the 🇵🇭. It's pretty decent for a home espresso machine. 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Is Phlipeens a real city?
@@m420-nd1if Phlipeens? Is that a country or city?
Cheaper machines are always of interest. So much of what we watch as coffee nerds, is high end, stuff-to-dream-about equipment. It's great to see that we can get good results with reasonably priced kit.
The machine looks nice.
Lance Hendricks' improvisational skills in this one was on point! :)
Hell yes! I’ve long been a proponent for utilising cheaper machines. While I’ve been pretty settled with my BDB for a few years now I’ve used lots of cheaper machines in the past from the likes of Sunbeam, Breville, Delonghi etc. and have always been able to get decent quality coffee from them.
Interesting and I’m loving all these low budget machines kicking out decent shots. I have my DeLonghi 3630 pretty dialed in so good for now waiting on that big lottery hit to upgrade.
his review is da best!!
Got the mini version recentlyas my first machine, which has a 51mm basket, but the internals are the same. I'm glad this was a good buy. Now, at least, I know it will have been my fault if the espresso sucks ^^
Damn Lance brandishing those GUNs today!
love this video
Great review and reveal of blooming capability on a budget machine with no solenoid valve! So how hard would it be, to have an enable/disable switch on a solenoid valve? I see expensive machines with no pre-infusion/flow control functions able to overcome with such a possibility?
The thermoblock is a nice touch!
This is a video about shocking value. Superficially it's about the $280 HiBrew H10A which can make amazing espresso drinks under the guiding hand of a master. More importantly, it's about the shocking value delivered by Lance Hedrick day after day, video after video. His knowledge, delivery, and generosity of humor raises my spirits in an ever darkening world. I recommend his video to my non-coffee-drinking friends and family because he is a fount of joy. Someone recommended Masterclass. We have one right here which is why I give back to Lance at Patreon. Thank you sir. You are appreciated.
I really like seeing a cheap machine with some capability. I bought a Bambino because it had PID (and was cheap) only to find out it wasn't adjustable (sad face). This seems more gooder.
What isn't adjustable?
@@blutcheramathe PID or temperature control isn't adjustable on the bambino. It has one but it's set to 200f internally I believe.
In February 2024 I had a HiBrew in my shopping cart, ready to purchase. My concern was the the electronics and/or the sensors failing within the first year. I happened to look at local Facebook Marketplace and bought a barely-used Gaggia Classic Pro for $350 with lots of accessories. I put in a dimmer switch and a 9 bar spring. I quickly learned how to dial in awesome shots, I figured I probably would never use the PID and the HiBrew lacks an OPV. I don't make milk drinks, which keeps it simpler. Electronics can be problematic and the GCP has none.
I have a gaggia that I modded with a pid. It was an adventure. If I breaks, I see myself buying that machine instead. The black exterior looks nice too.
I made a video of how I improved my Gaggia Classic Pro - Gauge, PID, Dimmer - How This Gaggia Classic Was Modified!
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This was very fun! For these types of machines this feels like a great format but maybe an extra video, maybe an unfiltered, would be good with more interesting cheaper end machines to really go more in-depth on them. But this was very fun! You've definitely got my favourite unboxing skills
Surprisingly, it pulls shots better than my previous Oscar with opv kit.
Very interesting especially some comparison against the infamous delonghi, breville you reviewed earlier is what I, and probably all who consider buying something in that price range, are interested.
Awesome Video! What kind of coffee were you using? I'm getting low on my Tropical Weather and looking for another to try from Onyx.
I think for the money is a viable option for those getting into espresso.
However, I'd still recommend the Breville Bambino over this - A few bucks more and much better all round quality, especially in the build.
Big boy with a fresh whoop, congrats! Full health & fitness mode on?
I had this as my first espresso machine. It is indeed incredible value for money.
I originally contacted the company about the pressure gauge, and they said the green zone is 7-16 bar, and having my shots all come out at the upper end of that range had me really concerned and I was ready to open it up and mod it. The Russian guy’s teardown, which I originally watched to find out where the opv is, eventually just gave me comfort that I wasn’t getting any higher than 10 bar which is fine by me tbh.
Glad to see a more “mainstream” channel review this machine, it’s a good one.
I don’t think daddy Hoffman will like it though. He’s very particular about the UX and build quality 😁
Thanks for the reiview Lance. Will this be the machine to buy instead of the bambino? Asking as someone thinking of getting the first machine
I just bought this machine and I love it because for the price you get many functions on machine. I switch this machine from delonghi ECP 3531. I only have one minus that the water from the grouphead doesn’t have a road to the drip tray, so you can’t backflush
Correct. No solenoid.
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Hi
Do you have a video demonstrating pre-infusion?
I'm interested in seeing how it affects the process and results with pre-infusion times of 0, 3, and 6 seconds, along with different grind sizes.
- Have you noticed the taste difference between espressos with and without pre-infusion? How do they compare?
- Are there specific coffee beans or roasts where you think pre-infusion isn't needed?
- Have you tried adjusting pre-infusion settings to customize your espresso's flavor? What were the outcomes?
Nice video!!
Thanks
Would love to see you do something similar with the De'Longhi ECP 35.31
Cheers
I bought this same machine some time ago, but unfortunately their customer service is not very helpful. I had problems maintaining a 9 bar pressure and they couldn't help me even if I was asking about an OPV valve. Didn't have the confidence to open the machine, but big thanks to Lance and the other source for pointing out that there is one.
Very impressive hit price point.
Got it for my parents with varia vs3 , a really nice setup , the steam is more powerful than breville barista pro which i had at one time and milk is much Smoother .
Just bought this few days ago
As always, a fun review to watch,
Are you gonna review the HiBrew grinder(s?) as well?
I like the “on the fly” review! Q: does the lower voltage (American) version perform the same as far as heat up times?
Thanks for the review. it is my first espresso machine, and I feel good about it.
They also make a good grinder, G5. Lance, can you review this grinder too?
Like the smartphone market, the budget end of espresso machines is becoming more and more competitive and the flagship end becoming more niche. As this is a Lance video, at least we'll know if this thing is capable of creating a decent shot.
Love your videos. Can you do a video on what grinder and espresso machine you would purchase if you had $1,000. Maybe a series starting from $500 and working up to a few thousand dollars?
Hi Lance. thank you for reviewing. Can you please review Profitec Go. Thank you for advance.
Pretty impressive for the price!
Off topic: lance, my setup consists of a k6 and j ultra for pour overs and espressos. Would keep this setup or you think j ultra can do both pretty well? Much appreciated
😂300 Milli Vanilli’s😂 The infamous duo.
Dope video
Here just to comment something for you Lance (enjoyed the chill review though!)
I believe those are 4mm tubes? Just like the sage dual boiler? Could it be possible to put the same needle valve,.? Just bringing crazy ideas to the table
I am currently looking at my gaggia classic like old yeller.
Lol
Seems like a decent machine and good way to experiment with it. The breville bambino non plus also doesnt have a solenoid and can do the super long bloom or pre infusion similarily. But no temp control on it and its a 54* ish mm portafilter not 58mm. Nice to see more advanced features coming out even on these lower end machines ! Adjustable steam temperatures!? I can't even do that on my old breville dual boiler (latest version you can)!
The breville bambino has a 54mm portafilter, doesn't!?
@@dejedejssonoops yeah you're right its somewhere between 53-54mm
This one or Bambino? Similar price point.
I’m asking the same question…
My quickmill stretta does also have a handle with three flaps
Huh, this is an interesting alternative to a modded Gaggia Classic, which is what I was thinking about getting.
I have one and modded it myself. It's quite a process to order every bit and then assemble everything, and I own a 3d printer. Whereas that machine is turn key. With warranty. Looks very compelling to me
Thanks for this review! I've been considering this Semi Auto for its budget and good availbility in my country. I've even had a chance to communicate with Hibrew and they are planning a new machine with a solenoid valve.
I've been told to go for something that has a solenoid but thanks to this video I've learnt something about blooming and pre-infusion! The temp surfing and milk wand purging to control temps are good tips for those who are newer to the caffeine addiction.
Does the basket really change the taste so much its worth investing? Appreciate any short and long term opinions.
Lance love your videos! I am shopping around for my first espresso machine. Would you choose this over the Breville Bambino Plus? The HiBrew seems to have a fair amount of added features and at a lower price point. I appreciate anyone’s thoughts on this!
Possible to do a video on comparing the complexity of a semi-automatic with full manual (flair, etc)?
Cool shirt
Thoughts on this vs a bambino plus?
nice one
Great video, can you compare it with gagguino please?
Hi Lance. Is it good to use RO water system with the output about 5-6 ppm for espresso machine? Previously using deLonghi dedica, just switch to Breville dual boiler recently.. thanks in advance..
What grinder did you use @lance?
Lance - could you also put a dimmer on the heating block and independently alter the heat and the flow?
Hi Lance, thanks for the video. Unrelated question - my shot times can change drastically when brewing two espressos at home using a Breville Barista Max. Have you got any advice on how to work around this? It makes dialling in a coffee tricky! Thanks :)
Hi lance! Could you do a video about selenoid valves? I’m trying to decide between bambino and bambino plus
This is actually very cool, for the price, seems pretty good.
Personally I think it's more of a fun machine to try different things because the lack of the valve , but as an everyday machine seems a bit annoying.