I understand your point. The term Arabic here is used loosely, as is the term Greek when we refer to Mediterranean culture spread over a wide area including people's of quite different backgrounds. It also applies to Indian mathematics, and later to European mathematics. It is a simplification that is not meant to diminish the very important contributions of Persian mathematicians.
Thanks a lot for this great series (also your series on Foundations of mathematics). Whenever I look into the notes I made from your lectures (which is by the way around 200 pages) I feel grateful for the fact that knowledge is much more easily transferred nowadays. It could have taken me years to acquire this had I lived just 50 years ago! By the way I just want to make a point related to the era of this lecture. I understand that the term "Arab influence" or "Arab mathematicians" generally means the influence of mathematicians who lived in Arab territories of the time (and maybe nearby cultures) but I also think the term "Persian mathematics" also deserves to be mentioned. True that Khayyam, Kharazmi, Biruni, Buzjani and Kashani (known as Al Kashi by the Arabs) all wrote their work in Arabic but all of them were actually born in Persia at the time. Baghdad was the capital and Arabic was the language of the science at the time but in case of these 5, their mother language was Persian (Parsi) and their place of birth is also located in Persia (in most cases in present Iran or in the Greater Iran of the time). All of Khayyam's Rubayiats are in Persian. Kharazm (where Kharazmi and Biruni were both born) is actually in central Asia. Neyshabur (Khayyam's hometown) is also far away from the Arab-speaking territories of the time and present. Actually ordinary people never spoke Arabic in most parts of the Persia. Poets and scientists, on the other hand, had to be able to write and read in Arabic because Arabic was rightfully the language of science (due to being very regular and rich, all verbs have stems and you can derivate words from stems in an exclusively regular way and may other advantages over Persian). So I don't mean any disrespect for Arabs and their great contribution to the science through the history. I also don' mean any disrespect to you, Professor Wildberger, wish you all the best :)
اشتقت الازاد وانا. ببغداد واذا باعرابي يجر حماره فقلت الى اين يا ابا دحش قال الى الهند والسند وشرب الخمر فاذا بعمر الخيام.يجبد سيفه. ويحط خماره وسالني الى اين مغربي قلت الى الجزاير. لاشوف اخي الشاب خالد....
Yes , Persian was a well developed civilisation before rise of islam in arabia and it is highly likely most of the inventions of islamic golden age were from persians which had to convert to islam.
I would say that the term Arabic here is a cultural and language one, not an ethnicity. The same holds for Greek culture, which was spread with the language through the Mediterranean region in ancient times, going far beyond ethnic Greeks.
@@njwildberger both in culture and language they are still persians. and what you say here is so disrespectful to real Persians. Arabs were our historical enemies and they conquered Persia and killed everyone who spoke or wrote Persian. yet these brave wise men kept doing both languages. most Khayyam poetry is only PERSIAN not ARABIC
@@njwildberger unfortunately uneducated writings like the source you are teaching are the source of agony for Iranians as you are unconsciously supporting the occupying arab regime
@@njwildberger also don't get me wrong. I love you and what you do. I love math and I'm learning a lot from you and stillwell's book. but this little issue here is important for me and my country especially in this dark era of islamic occupation.
I understand your point. The term Arabic here is used loosely, as is the term Greek when we refer to Mediterranean culture spread over a wide area including people's of quite different backgrounds. It also applies to Indian mathematics, and later to European mathematics. It is a simplification that is not meant to diminish the very important contributions of Persian mathematicians.
Thanks a lot for this great series (also your series on Foundations of mathematics). Whenever I look into the notes I made from your lectures (which is by the way around 200 pages) I feel grateful for the fact that knowledge is much more easily transferred nowadays. It could have taken me years to acquire this had I lived just 50 years ago!
By the way I just want to make a point related to the era of this lecture. I understand that the term "Arab influence" or "Arab mathematicians" generally means the influence of mathematicians who lived in Arab territories of the time (and maybe nearby cultures) but I also think the term "Persian mathematics" also deserves to be mentioned.
True that Khayyam, Kharazmi, Biruni, Buzjani and Kashani (known as Al Kashi by the Arabs) all wrote their work in Arabic but all of them were actually born in Persia at the time. Baghdad was the capital and Arabic was the language of the science at the time but in case of these 5, their mother language was Persian (Parsi) and their place of birth is also located in Persia (in most cases in present Iran or in the Greater Iran of the time).
All of Khayyam's Rubayiats are in Persian. Kharazm (where Kharazmi and Biruni were both born) is actually in central Asia. Neyshabur (Khayyam's hometown) is also far away from the Arab-speaking territories of the time and present. Actually ordinary people never spoke Arabic in most parts of the Persia. Poets and scientists, on the other hand, had to be able to write and read in Arabic because Arabic was rightfully the language of science (due to being very regular and rich, all verbs have stems and you can derivate words from stems in an exclusively regular way and may other advantages over Persian). So I don't mean any disrespect for Arabs and their great contribution to the science through the history. I also don' mean any disrespect to you, Professor Wildberger, wish you all the best :)
اشتقت الازاد وانا. ببغداد
واذا باعرابي يجر حماره
فقلت الى اين يا ابا دحش قال الى الهند والسند وشرب الخمر
فاذا بعمر الخيام.يجبد سيفه. ويحط خماره وسالني الى اين مغربي قلت الى الجزاير. لاشوف اخي الشاب خالد....
Yes , Persian was a well developed civilisation before rise of islam in arabia and it is highly likely most of the inventions of islamic golden age were from persians which had to convert to islam.
Persia ' . I think these maybe Persian traders who had take Hindu numbers and geek geometry and invented algebra etc .
I came to know that Persians were one of the most intelligent races in the human history.
Indeed informative
Thanks for these nice and overviewing videos and your enthusiastic teachings ... top!
Thanks for your understanding and courtesy
Very interesting lectures Sir. Thank you so much ..
I am skeptical about this claim. Do you have some real evidence?
It's really disrespectful how you name all Persians as Arabs. Khwarizmi, Khayyam, Biruni, Kashi
I would say that the term Arabic here is a cultural and language one, not an ethnicity. The same holds for Greek culture, which was spread with the language through the Mediterranean region in ancient times, going far beyond ethnic Greeks.
@@njwildberger both in culture and language they are still persians. and what you say here is so disrespectful to real Persians. Arabs were our historical enemies and they conquered Persia and killed everyone who spoke or wrote Persian. yet these brave wise men kept doing both languages. most Khayyam poetry is only PERSIAN not ARABIC
@@njwildberger unfortunately uneducated writings like the source you are teaching are the source of agony for Iranians as you are unconsciously supporting the occupying arab regime
@@njwildberger also don't get me wrong. I love you and what you do. I love math and I'm learning a lot from you and stillwell's book. but this little issue here is important for me and my country especially in this dark era of islamic occupation.