100Watt 14,000 Lumen HYPERLITE high bay lights: LED Shop Lighting that even Manfred Mann would Love!
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✅ SHOP NOTES: After a BUNCH of research I decided to install several "High Bay" LED lights in my new shop space instead of going with my original plan of using traditional linear lighting. I'm fortunate that I have 12' tall ceilings, so that gives the light cone plenty of space to get its elbows out and spread around the space. I misspoke when I said they were 18,000 Lumens though. These are 14,000.
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Garage door opener is a must!
I get that but keep in mind that this building isn't our garage.
As an electrical engineer who does lighting designs too your choice of 500 lux is good choice. The difference I did in my shop is that I place quad receptacles 44 inches above the finished floor every 6 feet so they were above my workbenches and easy to get too. I also placed a 230 volt, 20 amp receptacle every other quad for my power pro shopsmith. I have been very happy with that arrangement.
Dan, it sounds like you made some very good choices.
One more thing that i am proud of is that my shop is completely off the grid and powered by photovoltaics with battery backup.
Great lights you will like the brightness.
I'm giddy!
Dude, don't EVER play poker !!! LOL !! YOU LOOK LIKE A KID IN A FREE CANDY STORE !! I'm SOOOOO happy for you !!! You and your family and sister have worked hard for this and you certainly deserve it IMHO !! Thanks for sharing some more GREAT INFO on the lighting. A friend of mine showed me his shop with the LED's and apparently they were very low K. I shied away from them instantly. But NOW that I can see what to look for, you may have very well sold me on the idea !! I'm also jealous of your new Kingdom !! EXCELLENT !! Looks like PLENTY of space (for now, lol). Definitely looking forward to the rest of the show !! I truly couldn't be happier for you Scott !! Stay safe and enjoy ! BTW, we got 5" of that white crap over here at the INNER BANKS !!! (I had enough snow when I lived up North, I'm good, no thanks)
P.S. I'd go for an outlet between the doors if it were me. You'll most likely be doing a little outside work in the future as well ?? Just a thought !! OR a walk through door ?? Or BOTH !!
Hey Art. Thanks for the advice on the poker face! You are exactly right, I really couldn’t contain my giddiness!
@@MyGrowthRings, I'm certainly not Judging you Dude !! I'd be doing cartwheels with a broken back and a metal plate in my neck !! I truly couldn't be happier for you !!
Awesome and the journey continues :). Great space .. lookin forward to the rest of the ride. Enjoy
Thanks, John.
Glad for you Scott. Great future shop for sure.
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Thanks! We’re working on it.
Thank you for the review Scott.
You bet! Great product.
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Your lights---these LED lamps are nice-this flashoholic approves!!I am in East NC-got snow out here last night-Saturday.Looks like you are going to have a safe,well lit shop!
We sure will and did you get snow again on Friday night? Being from Ohio originally I really enjoy driving in winter weather, but it sure is rough on the locals. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings yes-it snowed Friday night then stopped about 6:00am. Was at work at the VOA/Marti SW transmitter plant. Your videos are good watching when things are quiet and transmitters don’t need fixing. Greenville,NC.
@@rexoliver7780 Nice. Happy to keep you company!
What a wonderful thing for you Scott! It’s great to see good things happening to good people! Congrats
Thanks, Bob. Scott
Great shop space, I'm a bit jealous. And, thanks for the tutorial on shop lighting, very helpful. Your advice to have "500 lx at the surface for task lighting" is a good tip I hadn't heard before. I've downloaded a light meter for my phone and am heading to the shop now to see how my space stacks up. Side Note: Hard to believe Manfred Mann is still playing at 81!
Thanks, Michael. I’m glad that it was helpful. If you got the same meter as me don’t miss the part about needing to filter the light through a piece of paper. Scott.
I have 4 of those in a 2-car garage shop. It’s like daylight.
Man, I bet!
So awesome! I know you must have been feeling like a fish out of water as you’ve been transitioning, but am so happy for you nearing back to the new and improved shop! How cool!
Thanks, Todd. You are absolutely spot on!
@@MyGrowthRings then it must be nice to know how we share your angst and are looking forward to your new shop!
I'm really pleased for you Scott. I look forward to future episodes shot inside your new shop. Maybe of you fitting it out or your thoughts on your choice of placement of fixtures, tools etc.? Enjoy sir!
Thanks Colin. I'm on the fence about how much of that type of content to share as it really isn't what I've been thinking about all these years. There's so much more to say about woodworking. We'll see. Scott
Very nice building, I know it will serve you well! Look forward to seeing your progress on it in future videos.
Usually new technologies come with trade offs but LED lighting is an exception, it’s just better on every axis.
It would be more economical to put more outlets in now at this stage then later, and you will want more before you are done
That looks like its going to be a great space! I'm jealous :) My wife and I recently remodeled the kitchen and got into the LED bulbs and Kelvin frequencies. As we get older we like a brighter light. We decided on the cooler 5000 K lights as they seem brighter to our weaker eyes.
Hey Frank. Yes, cooler lights are slighting brighter than their warmer versions. We need 10% more light every ten years of aging, so more is better. Scott
Love the led lights. Put some in my garage. I can finally see in there now. Highly recommend the update if you have old lighting. I don’t know where you are but I’d light up the sides of the building for safety and also a good lock inside.
5000k to 5600k is considered as daylight temperature. This is what you’d find in a photo studio. That glare your having issue with caused by the size of your light source. Putting diffusers on your lights will allow the light to be bounced all around your space and softening up the light. This is why photo studios have all those large umbrellas and other modifiers on their very powerful strobe lights.
Thanks for the insight. We actually did install diffusers a couple months back and it really improved the glare.
I was never a believer in LED lighting until I took up some amateur photography. Incandescent lighting is just too yellow. Also, I'm so happy not to deal with fluorescent tube! Sadly no matter what situation I've found you always need task lighting. Thanks for the video. Good luck!
I totally agree. I’ll still have some portable task lighting, otherwise shadows get annoying.
You are really REALLY going to enjoy your place. Good on ya mate!!
Way nice!👍👍🤜🤛
Thanks, John.
I use some cheap plug in strip style lights that plug in an outlet. Already had 2 go out but they are fairly easy to replace. This looks much better for a permanent installed solution (mine are tacked up and plugged in on socket adapters)
Unrelated but what are your plans for storage in your new shop.
When are we going to get more Shopsmith videos? There are plenty of videos about LEDs and building shops.
That is true. It’ll be in about two weeks. I have one more non-Shopsmith video in the can that still have some Shopsmith applications, so I hope you’ll see some value. Scott
Congrats on the shop progress. I am sure there is a lot of good topics like this in the future regarding setting up a workshop from a basic shell. What about covering ceiling height issues? For example, those lights would never work for my 7.5 foot ceiling. I had to go with several led strip lights to spread the light over a shorter vertical distance. On the other hand my strip lights would never work for your tall ceiling.
Speaking of ceilings, for energy efficiency sake, are you considering a drop ceiling or loft over the work shop area? If so, that could change the lighting equation too.
Hey Tom. You are absolutely right that this type of light would be terrible on a low ceiling. I will be installing a ceiling but have yet to decide what type. There's a lot to be said for keeping it high, but if I lower it I will do a drop ceiling. I am researching...
Put the extra outlets in on the door wall and install the garage door openers. If you don't do it you'll end up kicking your self in the butt. Experience talk here.
Thanks, William. One important distinction is that this space isn’t our garage, so the overhead doors don’t have to be used daily. Of course, if I ever do begin to open them regularly I’ll be older then… ok, good point. Scott
With the future in mind, have you thought of a 220v outlet for a car charger? You may not need it now but it might be handy in the future with all that space and the bay doors. Congrats on the new digs. How exciting.
Yes, I did give that some thought and there is enough power to do that, but for my personal use, we would install that type of service up at the house. This building is a bit too far off from our house for us to use it for everyday parking. Good thought, though. Scott
I don't use anything but 5000-6000K anywhere in my shop or home. Once you get used to them, the old school light looks dim by comparison. We still have a few rooms in the house that have halogen bulbs that we used to think were white. The other day, my wife told me how dimly lit one of the rooms was and that everything looked yellow.
Why use 5000-6000K LEDs? Colors, for one thing, are about as close to as you can get to daylight. If you are painting or doing any photography, you need white light. You can see fine details much better, probably because of the colors.
CRI or the Color Rendering Index is an altogether different thing then color temperature. There are cool lights that render color poorly and there are warm lights that render colors well. If you look on the package of your lighting it’ll list CRI, which is on a scale of 1 to 100, with 100 being the color rendering of the daylight. These lights are 80 on the CRI scale, which is lower than I would like, but what I could justify purchasing. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings I don't yhink you are going to get a high CRI from a yellow light,
5500K is white.
@@RobertKeeney All LEDs begin their life as blue, cool diodes and they are made warmer by adding a “filter” of phosphor. The thicker the layer of phosphor, the warmer the light. My employer sells 2700k LEDs that render color above 90 CRI.
LEDs come in several colors: Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, Ultraviolet, Infrared, and White. Most lighting uses blue because of cost, ease of manufacturing, and other factors. I don't think you can buy the white LEDs. If you can, I would expect them to be very expensive. At one time, red LEDs cost $200 each. Today I can buy 450 LEDs for $13. In the early 1979's, a friend and I worked out a crude design for an LED TV that lacked only blue LEDs. I predicted that someone would make these, and they did, but the color was not good. I should have purchased some stock.
CRI is part of the issue, but not all of it. Ambient light changes as the camera angle changes. Suppose I put a toy car in a light tent; the white background changes when the toy is rotated because the light bounces around in the tent differently. The sensor in the camera, the software in the camera, and the format you are saving the image in all make a difference. Then you put it into a computer, and it can all fall apart. I have two monitors. One that is supposed to have excellent color. And a monitor that isn't to see the images on both. I only crop and adjust white balance because I don't want to create an image that looks like crap on a cheaper monitor. I don't have any lights, fluorescent or LED that are not CRI 80 or higher. Thes lights are good enough for what I do. When I started this high CRI, lights were costly, and I found that if I purchased quality 5000-6000K lighting, they all had CRI 80 or better. I soon discovered that I could see details much better with this lighting.
I went with 5k lights because I much prefer a cooler light, but I know most people prefer the warmer stuff. With respect to the outlets, I have never, ever regretted putting an extra outlet, so you may want to think about that before the walls get finished, lol!
For sure. I have a couple more planned and some pull downs as well.
Wow… do you think two is enough for 17 by 17 ft garage? Just wow.
Did I say that? No, I will wind up with four in a 20’ X 30’ shop space.
Sorry, George, I misunderstood your question. It depends. How high is your ceiling and how bright do you need it to be?
@@MyGrowthRings 8-9 ft ceiling. Good enough for camera.
Actually nevermind, I’ll ho with several smaller ones to spread light evenly.
Put outlets by the big doors. I did and found I use them all the time.
I've been wondering about that. If nothing else I could have put them there but on the outside.
@@MyGrowthRings I also have them outside as well. It's easier to install them now, not later. I've set up three shops and each one had more outlets then the last. Because I'd say gee I wish I'd of put an outlet there. IMO
For sure. Thanks for the suggestion. Scott
While on this topic: I had my shop (basement) remodeled as a woodshop 7 years ago. Best thing I did was have quads (four outlets per box), 42 inches off the floor (so no bending down and having to search behind lumber, cabinets, tools, etc. for an outlet) and those spaced every 4 feet apart. True I have some outlets I have never used but have several that I've used all four outlets in the box. I smile everytime I plug something in.
@@dwightl5863 Very smart move.
Great start! What size service did you run to it? I ran 100 Amp… that works out just fine. But, the breaker box was too small. I’ve had to upgrade several of the breakers to duplex breakers.
I have plenty of amps but, with some much machinery… I found that I had to split several runs to keep from throwing the breakers. For example having only one run for my planer and dust collector was overwhelming. Now, if I had sized the wires to run 30amp breakers I’d have been OK… but, we live and learn!
We discussed running 150 Amp but wound up with 200. I suspect I need to break up some runs too. I’ll admit to rushing a bit and not thinking things entirely through.
Thanks for the Kalvin chart and the explanation. We are remodeling our bathroom and will have to deal with the lighting choice soon. The chart is a great reference.
No 220V plug for the Shopsmith?
You are welcome. No, none of my Shopsmith tools are convertible to 220V. I have a couple tools, such as a Powermatic 66 table saw that are 220V or even 3 phase, but those aren't top of mind at this point. Scott
Let’s see if it comes rapped up like a deuce!
Well played!
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Man, it would be so fun to start with a blank canvas like that. Are you doing any sort of dust collection? After elec and lighting, I think that would be the next thing I'd be planning out. I run my DC on 240V. No particular reason other than that's what the used one I bought was set up for.
Okay, got the saliva wiped up, so here goes. Are you planning to put a ceiling in the shop space or leave it open? I assume you will do significant insulation. Looks like a great shop space, and since it's a completely blank slate, you get to arrange it to your satisfaction. I am thrilled for you as you venture forth in creating this space. Stay warm, Glen
Yes, there will be an insulated ceiling. Thanks for sharing my excitement. Scott
Nice video, thanks. I’m considering 100w Hyperlites as well for my shop (30x60). How big is your shop and how far off the floor are yours mounted? Thanks!!!
The space is 40 X 40 and the ceiling is 12’. I will be dividing the space in half and expect to put four of these lights in the shop space and two in the other half, which will be mostly used for storage. The four lights we have installed so far have blown my mind with how well they light the space. Scott
In my opinion you don't have anywhere near enough outlets, and why are they not 4 feet off of the floor. I put an outlet every 4ft in my shop and I still search for one on occasion
I totally agree, Mike. I plan to have some drop cords from the ceiling. Also, me had some issues with the electrical inspector who seems to be new and was enforcing things as “code” which I believe have no place in a separate building. We did what we had to in order to button it down and can always make additions. Scott
@@MyGrowthRings There is lots I could say on the subject. I'm a retired electrician and I know of no code that forces you to do that. But glad to hear you will make changes now that he is out of the picture.
LED are bad for your eyes (blue light)
If you explore the studies on health and LED lighting you'll find that the LEDs that have been determined to be bad on the eyes are industrial and automotive lights. According to the ANSES: "As a result, currently for indoor lighting, only LED lamps of risk groups 0 or 1 (in accordance with the NF-EN-62471 photobiological safety standard) are accessible to the general public. The most risky lights (groups 2 and 3) are, for their part, reserved for professional use under conditions guaranteeing the safety of workers." They also said : "Warm white" LED home lights are indistinguishable from traditional lighting and have a low risk of phototoxicity." Have I mentioned that I work with LED lighting in my day job as a Corporate Trainer? Scott
Here's a great article from UL: library.ul.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2015/02/UL_WP_Final_Assessing-the-Photobiological-Safety-of-LEDs_v3_HR.pdf In their summery and conclusion they mention standards in the EU, and my employer is a German company, so I know this well. Scott