This was very informative, I didn’t realize that Kenta died so young and that BonBon defeated him as alpha, very interesting. Poor Kibo he’s too old for young, crazy children, he needs peace and quiet. Really enjoyed this 🥰
Well bonbon is the alpha Male in his group, and Decky is the other alpha Male in his group, rotating females within the group's, only Gin and fubuki are the only males allowed in bonbon's group, while gin, max, and fubuki are allowed in Decky's group, decky and bonbon sort of fought with decky losing a toe, so they separated them, I'm glad they did that rather than allow them together again. Max would easily overtake bonbon as alpha Male with Gin at his side.
@@bapbaby4life503 I agree, because Max will never summit to BonBon. and Gin will and always roll with Max they are close and will have each other backs. Anna taught Max well, I know he misses his sister.
Poor Keybo, great picture of Joe and Kenta. Picture shows Kenta in his prime, sometimes I hated him for how he ruled, but Im not a chimp. I don't think Kenta ever recovered from the Bonbon fight. Keybo need an old female and him to run off together.
It's sad but these are the economics of chimpanzee's, it would be this way even in the wild, I think even with studies humans will never understand it. I hope he can live his life peaceful, would they ever consider a sanctuary for him?
I also think it's better to separate him from this group. But I've never met the zookeeper at this zoo, so I'm not sure if the zoo will separate him from this group.
@@GreatApesZoo as long as they keep an eye on him. That young one is very rambunctious, I saw your other video with them in the enclosure and katou (if that's his name) was again playing or hitting him again.
This was very informative, I didn’t realize that Kenta died so young and that BonBon defeated him as alpha, very interesting. Poor Kibo he’s too old for young, crazy children, he needs peace and quiet. Really enjoyed this 🥰
Thanks for watching.
Well bonbon is the alpha Male in his group, and Decky is the other alpha Male in his group, rotating females within the group's, only Gin and fubuki are the only males allowed in bonbon's group, while gin, max, and fubuki are allowed in Decky's group, decky and bonbon sort of fought with decky losing a toe, so they separated them, I'm glad they did that rather than allow them together again. Max would easily overtake bonbon as alpha Male with Gin at his side.
@@bapbaby4life503 I agree, because Max will never summit to BonBon. and Gin will and always roll with Max they are close and will have each other backs. Anna taught Max well, I know he misses his sister.
体力、精神ともにきつそうですね。
最近デッキーもきつそうで心配です。
懸命に生きていた子には、穏やかな老後を過ごしてほしいですが、無理なのでしょうね。
また厳しい冬がきますが、体調を崩さぬようすごしてほしいです。
かなりきつそうですね。一番年上のキャロがキーボを敵視していないのでほっとします。日本では、大きな群れでキーボほど長生きしたチンパンジーはいないでしょう。群れと分けるとフルトと暮せなくなってしまうし・・人間もそうですが、最終的にどちらが良いのかわかりません。
何をしても正解はないのでしょうね。
いろいろな子を取りあげてくださって感謝です。
こちらこそありがとうございます。
多摩でそんなアルファオス争いが起きてたとは(汗 ジョー→ケンタ→ボンボンへと、アルファオスとしてのリーダーへの厳しい時代があったんですね・・・。今現在、ボンボンが多摩ではアルファオスですが、マックスやジン君も力をつけてきているので、これも結構厳しい争いになるんじゃないかと・・・多摩チンパンジーも心配です(汗 そして本題の動画での感想ですが、シンバさんも、わずか１９歳の若さで亡くなるとは・・・改めて「アルファオスについて」、色々勉強になりました。ありがとうございます。
こちらこそありがとうございます。個人的には、ボンボンとは一緒にしないのではないかと思っています。
マックス、ジンは、デッキーに対して攻撃的ではないですし、２つの群れが作れる多摩で、わざわざ闘争を作り出す必要はないと思っています。さてどうなるのでしょうか？
そろそろ、一人でノンビリの環境もいいのかな?、それとも、最後まで群れの中で暮らすのがいいのかな?
こればかりは、どちらが良いのか人間ではわかりかねますね。もちろん、本格的に不自由になったら別室でしょうね。王子のジョニーがそうであったように。
Nice to see a picture of Joe. Never seen one of him before. Great story about Joe and Kibo.
I personally want to drink whisky with Gin. =_+
😀
He may be the oldest one at this zoo but they have one at 75 years old in Africa
Poor Keybo, great picture of Joe and Kenta. Picture shows Kenta in his prime, sometimes I hated him for how he ruled, but Im not a chimp. I don't think Kenta ever recovered from the Bonbon fight. Keybo need an old female and him to run off together.
It's sad but these are the economics of chimpanzee's, it would be this way even in the wild, I think even with studies humans will never understand it. I hope he can live his life peaceful, would they ever consider a sanctuary for him?
I also think it's better to separate him from this group. But I've never met the zookeeper at this zoo, so I'm not sure if the zoo will separate him from this group.
@@GreatApesZoo as long as they keep an eye on him. That young one is very rambunctious, I saw your other video with them in the enclosure and katou (if that's his name) was again playing or hitting him again.
俺もジジイになってもモテ続けるアルファオスになりてぇわ
キーボは、年末に亡くなってしまいました。
こんばんは🌠。
見るからにつらそうです😣。子供相手ですが、余裕がなく必死で😫、そこまでして一緒に群れに入れおかなくてもと思いました。今まで頑張って来たんだから、ゆっくりさせてあげて欲しいです。本人も身体の不自由さを感じてるでしょうし。見てる方も切なくてつらくなります。
おはようございます。🥱メスのフルトには未練があるでしょうから、どちらもせつないですね。いつまでも健康で長生きというのは願いですが、生きている以上、いつかは・・がありますね。
キーボ疲れきってます目に力がないケガしない内に交代したほうが52歳偉いね
キーボの対応は難しいですね。どうにかキーボが平和に暮らせる方法を考えてもらいたいです。