I've been thinking about how quickly America abandoned the horse for automobiles. This says something about our expectations for the rate of change in other areas, also -- that is, for the schedule in other situations upon which one technology is replaced by another. One might expect that use of the horse experienced a long, slow decline until finally it fell below some threshold and was recognized as having "disappeared" from America's roads. But in fact, while the horse as a means of transportation was overwhelmingly dominant until about 1908, automobiles had almost entirely replaced in non-farm applications it by 1918, just a decade later, by which time the many points of superiority of the gas-engined auto over animal power had become clear. Lesson: This is the way things usually go. When a superior product/technology comes along, the public tends to replace the old one, FAST. The horse's many defects became all-too-manifest once automobiles broke through into the public consciousness as a practical tool.
You make an excellent point. However the automobile wasn't an entirely new concept in 1908 as it had been seen by the American public for at least two decades, and many people were interested, but few could afford one though, until the model T came along. The Model T was first made in 1908 and it sold very rapidly since it was affordable. I believe that may explain the 1908 to 1918 change.
i had heard that company's like Oldsmobile had been playing with the idea of assembly lines and that ford had taken the idea and put it in to mass use before Oldsmobile did.
Oldsmobile had used the assembly line, but not for all of their car components. Since some components weren't on the line, it limited the idea's full efficiency and speed potential. Ford was the first to use it for all parts.
Well, I'll admit that there's quite a bit mentioned in this video that I don't agree with. For example, chrome didn't replace brass- nickel did, then chrome. The true brass cars weren't made after World War 1- brass was needed for making small arms ammunition and when the war was over, manufacturers didn't go back to it. And mass production didn't begin with Henry Ford. Mass-produced and thus not hand-made cars date to the late 1890's and beyond. Ford did employ the moving assembly line for the first time but assembly lines could be found at Oldsmobile, De Dion Bouton, Renault, Peugeot, Winton, Humber and many, many other factories long before 1913. There's more I could mention but in my final analysis, I do believe, Sir, that this is very much oversimplified.
I understand your point of view. I am certainly not perfect in my research. However the goal of this video is not to recite the complete history of the brass era, but to provide a general understanding of it. I currently lack the necessary amount of footage and time that would be required to produce a video with a more detailed history, but I am doing my best. Thank you for your corrections.
The true brass era was from 1905 to 1915, brass era is a american term for car makes in wood and part in brass, billion of car brand and models : fantastic! I try to make brass era model cars in 1 :20 scale in brass and wood here in Italy, simple cars like 1903 Ford A (and 1904 C) , 1911 Maxwell AB, 1902 Northern 5 hp, 1910 Stanley steamer, 1910 International Harvester model F, 1902 Rambler model C etc.
Those may be the years of the brass era, but traces of it existed until the great depression. That's quite a collection of models you have. I am into model making myself and have even done a few videos of model cars on my channel. Here are the links: th-cam.com/video/F9zthQf4fU4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/v0TlqnKQv5g/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/EJPVITlaUXE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/miRyvcEoPxU/w-d-xo.html I have more in progress.
@@carhistorian Only in the USA there are a interest for ancient automobiles, veteran and brass era cars, it's a incredible history and there aren't model cars on this age. Then i try to build at least something scale models. Excuse for my poor english
Sadly few models are made for that era. It's not impossible to find some old ones on Ebay, but they are rather expensive. By the way, your English is better than what I often hear on a day to day basis.
I can argue that from the Brass era as important as the Model T was Cadillac's pioneering in interchangeable parts based on precision engineering. I wonder who actually came up with that idea.
@@carhistorian I also have no idea who started the idea of interchangeable parts. However I can argue that Henry Leland seemed to be important as far as helping to bring them to the automobile. Seems before he got into the automobile business he learned some things about manufacturing machinists instruments and firearms.
@@carhistorian Thanks but not really. I watched a video about the Ford Piquette Avenue plant. It had one of the first fire sprinkler systems. And somehow that led to a post somewhere about the similarity between the Ford Model A (the 1903 one) and the Cadillac Model A, and how they shared some of the same people. As you know the cars from this period and the ingenuity and inventiveness of the men designing them is fascinating.
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I've been thinking about how quickly America abandoned the horse for automobiles. This says something about our expectations for the rate of change in other areas, also -- that is, for the schedule in other situations upon which one technology is replaced by another. One might expect that use of the horse experienced a long, slow decline until finally it fell below some threshold and was recognized as having "disappeared" from America's roads. But in fact, while the horse as a means of transportation was overwhelmingly dominant until about 1908, automobiles had almost entirely replaced in non-farm applications it by 1918, just a decade later, by which time the many points of superiority of the gas-engined auto over animal power had become clear. Lesson: This is the way things usually go. When a superior product/technology comes along, the public tends to replace the old one, FAST. The horse's many defects became all-too-manifest once automobiles broke through into the public consciousness as a practical tool.
You make an excellent point. However the automobile wasn't an entirely new concept in 1908 as it had been seen by the American public for at least two decades, and many people were interested, but few could afford one though, until the model T came along. The Model T was first made in 1908 and it sold very rapidly since it was affordable. I believe that may explain the 1908 to 1918 change.
i had heard that company's like Oldsmobile had been playing with the idea of assembly lines and that ford had taken the idea and put it in to mass use before Oldsmobile did.
Oldsmobile had used the assembly line, but not for all of their car components. Since some components weren't on the line, it limited the idea's full efficiency and speed potential. Ford was the first to use it for all parts.
Well, I'll admit that there's quite a bit mentioned in this video that I don't agree with. For example, chrome didn't replace brass- nickel did, then chrome. The true brass cars weren't made after World War 1- brass was needed for making small arms ammunition and when the war was over, manufacturers didn't go back to it. And mass production didn't begin with Henry Ford. Mass-produced and thus not hand-made cars date to the late 1890's and beyond. Ford did employ the moving assembly line for the first time but assembly lines could be found at Oldsmobile, De Dion Bouton, Renault, Peugeot, Winton, Humber and many, many other factories long before 1913. There's more I could mention but in my final analysis, I do believe, Sir, that this is very much oversimplified.
I understand your point of view. I am certainly not perfect in my research. However the goal of this video is not to recite the complete history of the brass era, but to provide a general understanding of it. I currently lack the necessary amount of footage and time that would be required to produce a video with a more detailed history, but I am doing my best. Thank you for your corrections.
A good little summary. Thank you.
You’re welcome.
Great video, I love brass era cars , I agree history does belong to God ✝️❤
Thank you. I hope to keep improving my content so that you may continue to enjoy it.
@@carhistorian I am sure I will, It's good stuff 😊
At the beginning the Ford Model T have not a lower price than another american cars of 1908 / 1910
You are correct. However it was on the cheaper end of the spectrum when you consider some of the luxury cars could be $2000.
@@carhistorian Yes luxury car price was between 2000 and 12.000 dollars of european imported Fiat for example
Wow. I wasn’t aware the price went that high.
The true brass era was from 1905 to 1915, brass era is a american term for car makes in wood and part in brass, billion of car brand and models : fantastic! I try to make brass era model cars in 1 :20 scale in brass and wood here in Italy, simple cars like 1903 Ford A (and 1904 C) , 1911 Maxwell AB, 1902 Northern 5 hp, 1910 Stanley steamer, 1910 International Harvester model F, 1902 Rambler model C etc.
Those may be the years of the brass era, but traces of it existed until the great depression. That's quite a collection of models you have. I am into model making myself and have even done a few videos of model cars on my channel. Here are the links:
th-cam.com/video/F9zthQf4fU4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/v0TlqnKQv5g/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/EJPVITlaUXE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/miRyvcEoPxU/w-d-xo.html
I have more in progress.
@@carhistorian Thank you!
You are welcome.
@@carhistorian Only in the USA there are a interest for ancient automobiles, veteran and brass era cars, it's a incredible history and there aren't model cars on this age. Then i try to build at least something scale models. Excuse for my poor english
Sadly few models are made for that era. It's not impossible to find some old ones on Ebay, but they are rather expensive. By the way, your English is better than what I often hear on a day to day basis.
I can argue that from the Brass era as important as the Model T was Cadillac's pioneering in interchangeable parts based on precision engineering. I wonder who actually came up with that idea.
Unfortunately I wasn’t able to find a name for such a person. Apparently the idea of interchangeable parts dates back to the Punic wars with Carthage.
@@carhistorian I also have no idea who started the idea of interchangeable parts. However I can argue that Henry Leland seemed to be important as far as helping to bring them to the automobile. Seems before he got into the automobile business he learned some things about manufacturing machinists instruments and firearms.
Impressive. You really seem to know how to do research.
@@carhistorian Thanks but not really. I watched a video about the Ford Piquette Avenue plant. It had one of the first fire sprinkler systems. And somehow that led to a post somewhere about the similarity between the Ford Model A (the 1903 one) and the Cadillac Model A, and how they shared some of the same people. As you know the cars from this period and the ingenuity and inventiveness of the men designing them is fascinating.
Indeed they are.