Looks like a great idea, people like the look of the older locomotives and they were having problems with the bi-level control units, so keeping the cabs of the locomotives and using the engine bay as a baggage area looks like a great idea. Thanks for the video.
Glad the F40PH wasn't forgotten, but I do wish at least one NPCU gets it's prime mover back. Doesn't have to be OEM, could be from anything that used a 1616-645E3B engine, or could also be a 16-710.
I’m fortunate enough to live about four miles from the Metrolink/Pacific Surfliner mainline and see trains there. It’s nice being able to see all of the different cabbage car units in your video, since I can’t always go out there and see for myself
Yeah, that's one of the better meets I've seen! I'm not looking forward to it either. There are going to be some big changes coming. I'll probably be doing a video about it and the implications for the channel at the beginning of next month.
@Ali Muhammad Basically the federal government is intervening in what content creators can and cannot make (for monetization) based on an incredibly old, and vaguely written law that came out in 1998 that only suddenly became an issue. It's illegal to collect data on viewers under the age of 13. The way TH-cam (and any website for that matter) works is they collect all the data from the users (in TH-cam's case, what viewers watch, what content they watch, and when they watch, etc) to help predict and streamline the service for them by recommending content suited to your interests. Where this really violated federal law (so to speak) is targeted advertising. I could go into more detail but just look up videos on COPPA (the law). What this potentially could do to creators who create kids content, is seriously impact any revenue made on those videos, as well as all TH-cam features will be turned off for those videos since data cannot be collected (you will not be able to comment, etc). Even those who do not create kid-friendly content, and claim they don't, can still be at risk if somehow it is viewed or determined as such, in which case the federal government can come at you and fine you directly, even though it's something that's totally out of our control! I think it sounds like a bigger issue than it really is right now, so hopefully as time progresses TH-cam will come up with better ways to protect content creators, as well as the audiences watching the videos. Also, hopefully the government will ease up on their ridiculously unnecessary overreach in this position, which really at its core has NOTHING to do with protecting children, in fact, the blow back could be way worse for younger audiences by disincentivising the creation of content for younger audiences.
Nice video! I’ve seen 2 cabbages and you did a great Job on capturing these engines! Thank you for making More great content and I know where you can get some In Fort Worth at the 1001 Jones Street station! - with great thanks, UPRailfan5391 P.S. have a nice day!
Outstanding video, CoasterFan2105. I love these NPCUs. My favorite one is 90253. My second favorite is 90278. The reason I like 90253 is because it has a legendary K5LA. 90278 has an outstanding and legendary K5LA.
I have a goofy question ... slack control. The power unit is always pushing, or "tugging" when decelerating. Kinda opposite if power unit is up front. I wonder if operators have any trouble adapting if they come from head end power units? Also ... some control cars dont have independent brakes so the operator can't really do any bail off and he/she can only apply brake through whole consist. Do these former F-40 units have indep brakes? Just curious.
CoasterFan2105 hey, The fact that you have half 1 million subscribers, and you’re able to get back to your fans, not a lot of people can do that. Thank you!
I guess I spoke too late on the other video about coming up to the Downeaster portion! Shame I missed ya. Bradford is I go railfanning all the time! I loved the video!
@@4kbradddentertainment278 I can imagine the bulk will be scrapped. And it's looking like Amtrak's new passenger cars from Siemens will all have their own control cars delivered with them. I know this to be the case for the cars being delivered to California and Michigan atleast.
7:55 You have a catch from 2011 in a video in 2019 but also very good 👍 🤩😍😎😻😽 4:13 What is this F40ph carrying? 8:51 There's a coaster train in this video I like that meets! 4:52 cool train!!
About half is from late 2018/2019 and the rest is a mix of some older shots because I wanted to show all the different paint schemes that are on the cabbages.
I like the SC-44 it’s so quiet. Then the P 42. I don’t like it. The P 42 because it’s chug noise😅 but the chargers are so quiet to me. You’re more efficient and no one doesn’t want to replace them Every single opera has received old is SS-44 they get a second chance. But the P 42 disease does not get a second chance
I wonder why the trains that have 2 locomotives have them on the same end? Sometimes they even have 2 locomotives on one end and 2 cabbage cars on the other end. You'd think they would want to use the more modern cab/controls on each end . . . .
The funny thing is, Amtrak is planning to replace these, as they are too old. There is a PDF of Amtrak plans for the next 5 years published in January of this year, and they say they wish to replace these, as sad as it is. I can't post proof as mobile TH-cam sucks.
Make it an around-the-country train trip! Don't know where you live specifically, so I'll guess: Lake Shore Limited to Chicago, then Builder to Seattle, Starlight to L.A., Coaster to San Diego and back to L.A., then Chief to Chicago and Lake Shore home. Or from L.A., take Sunset Limited to NOLA, then Crescent to DC and NW Regional to MA. In case you're wondering: yes, I'm planning to take a trip like that in the next year or so before Amtrak kills any more routes.
I’ll never understand 90250, first it was in Cascades colors, then for some reason it gets removed and it’s back in phase 5, then put into a Seahawks Wrap, now it’s back to Phase 5. Poor odd ball unit.
Looks like a great idea, people like the look of the older locomotives and they were having problems with the bi-level control units, so keeping the cabs of the locomotives and using the engine bay as a baggage area looks like a great idea. Thanks for the video.
Yes, a pretty unique and very useful idea! Thanks for watching!
Awesome video Mike! I’m getting a lot of nostalgia from the non-rebuilt Downeaster NPCU’s!
I want to ride one of those one day.hopefully to California
Glad the F40PH wasn't forgotten, but I do wish at least one NPCU gets it's prime mover back. Doesn't have to be OEM, could be from anything that used a 1616-645E3B engine, or could also be a 16-710.
Well, never say never!
@@CoasterFan2105 Not even once!
0:19 Reminds Me Of The Brown Streak F40PH
FOLLOW THAT TRAIN!
Very interesting to see the various equipment used in California. Love those horns. Thanks!!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I’m fortunate enough to live about four miles from the Metrolink/Pacific Surfliner mainline and see trains there. It’s nice being able to see all of the different cabbage car units in your video, since I can’t always go out there and see for myself
Will you be talking about what an F40PH cab car is for the next episode of Train Talk???
Probably not, but I do talk about it in my Train Talk episodes on the F40PH (episode 2) and Cab Cars (episode 1).
Nice video! It is good to see footage of 90208 before its unfortunate accident in August that has sidelined it since.
Hi Coaster! Thanks for making these amazing videos. Have a great day!
Great video, that meet at 9:00 was definitely a jaw dropper! I'm not looking forward to the changes coming to TH-cam :(
Yeah, that's one of the better meets I've seen! I'm not looking forward to it either. There are going to be some big changes coming. I'll probably be doing a video about it and the implications for the channel at the beginning of next month.
@Ali Muhammad Basically the federal government is intervening in what content creators can and cannot make (for monetization) based on an incredibly old, and vaguely written law that came out in 1998 that only suddenly became an issue. It's illegal to collect data on viewers under the age of 13. The way TH-cam (and any website for that matter) works is they collect all the data from the users (in TH-cam's case, what viewers watch, what content they watch, and when they watch, etc) to help predict and streamline the service for them by recommending content suited to your interests. Where this really violated federal law (so to speak) is targeted advertising. I could go into more detail but just look up videos on COPPA (the law). What this potentially could do to creators who create kids content, is seriously impact any revenue made on those videos, as well as all TH-cam features will be turned off for those videos since data cannot be collected (you will not be able to comment, etc). Even those who do not create kid-friendly content, and claim they don't, can still be at risk if somehow it is viewed or determined as such, in which case the federal government can come at you and fine you directly, even though it's something that's totally out of our control! I think it sounds like a bigger issue than it really is right now, so hopefully as time progresses TH-cam will come up with better ways to protect content creators, as well as the audiences watching the videos. Also, hopefully the government will ease up on their ridiculously unnecessary overreach in this position, which really at its core has NOTHING to do with protecting children, in fact, the blow back could be way worse for younger audiences by disincentivising the creation of content for younger audiences.
@Ali Muhammad the changes of YTs new rules with COPPA & FTC
8:58 cool the diesel 2105 favourite diesel for coasterfan2105. ^^
And thanks for doing that video for train talk. I watch your videos a train talking a lot and it’s really awesome
Nice video! I’ve seen 2 cabbages and you did a great
Job on capturing these engines! Thank you for making
More great content and I know where you can get some
In Fort Worth at the 1001 Jones Street station! - with great thanks, UPRailfan5391
P.S. have a nice day!
Good video!
Thank you!
This is new as well! Cabbage cars? Short for Cab baggage cars?! What a discovery! Thanks very much for this fun fact! I love it!!
Outstanding video, CoasterFan2105. I love these NPCUs. My favorite one is 90253. My second favorite is 90278. The reason I like 90253 is because it has a legendary K5LA. 90278 has an outstanding and legendary K5LA.
Awesome now ya made me hungry cause cabbage is the name of a food lol
I like your videos but wish you could put a note on the screen as the train goes by the location so we know here we are. thank you
I’m wondering if 90208 is back in service because it hit a forklift sometime this year and had serious damage. I saw it in some parts of the video
Ive seen an Amtrak Cabbage Car train in Los Angeles Union Station!
I've always been wondering what the door on the locomotive was. Well at least I know! Nice video btw.
So cool! This is my favorite channel on youtube :)
It's my favorite as well!☺
Mine too
Wonderful location bro thanks for this video😍😍😍😍😍😝😝😝😘😘🥰🥰😘😘
Yep, I've seen them on the Downeaster trains running through Old Orchard Beach, Maine!
Great video. They used to be F40PH locomotives back then.
Amazing
Thanks, Ethan!
Super👌👍🚦🚦🚦
Thank you!
Nice vid Mike and on Christmas I'm gonna be getting a Amtrak Auto Train DvD which I'm excited about
I find Amtrak converting older locomotives into cab cars to be a really smart idea
Awesome
I like Amtrak’s f40ph npcus besides are they still riding to this day. Because I’m so excited to see them. Did they get replaced
Always been a fan of these, great video!
Gotta love them cabbages! Great video!
That train was flying at 4:14
Ethan Mitchell bruh
Talk about poor judgment right there
Look at the French trains then you know what flying is
👌🏿
I did like the horn tho
the episode we all needed!
I have a goofy question ... slack control. The power unit is always pushing, or "tugging" when decelerating. Kinda opposite if power unit is up front. I wonder if operators have any trouble adapting if they come from head end power units? Also ... some control cars dont have independent brakes so the operator can't really do any bail off and he/she can only apply brake through whole consist. Do these former F-40 units have indep brakes? Just curious.
Great video I see those all the time on cascades
2105 always seems to find its way into one of your videos lol. Great compilation!
If it can find a way in, it will! Thanks!
CoasterFan2105 hey, The fact that you have half 1 million subscribers, and you’re able to get back to your fans, not a lot of people can do that. Thank you!
@@727.chasse I try the best I can!
Lets face it 90208 and p42dc 162 are best friends
Cool
I guess I spoke too late on the other video about coming up to the Downeaster portion! Shame I missed ya. Bradford is I go railfanning all the time! I loved the video!
Man I love cabbages
Schön video
Danke
Nice video. I wonder if they still have the same horns from when they were original Amtrak F40PHs.
no they dont
Great video. I've been wondering after SC-44 replacesa huge chunk of P42s, will there be P42 based NPCUs ever.
Thank you! My guess is probably not because of the monocoque body, but who knows!
It’ll probably be only some of them if they were to be converted to the NPCU format while the others would just be ready for scrap
@@4kbradddentertainment278 I can imagine the bulk will be scrapped. And it's looking like Amtrak's new passenger cars from Siemens will all have their own control cars delivered with them. I know this to be the case for the cars being delivered to California and Michigan atleast.
@@done-ahhh578 looks like no
@@kenrichliu1153 Yeah on account of new Siemens rolling stock coming with their own cab cars, no need for new NPCUs
great video bro
GO DOWNEASTER!!!!!! Yeah!!!! I ride that one a lot down to Boston because it’s in my state MAINE.
Thanks mike, very cool
7:55 You have a catch from 2011 in a video in 2019 but also very good 👍 🤩😍😎😻😽 4:13 What is this F40ph carrying? 8:51 There's a coaster train in this video I like that meets! 4:52 cool train!!
This is Stupendous! :-D
Thanks, Kev!
F40PH 90340 still has the best horn
Obviously
Wow I love the amtrak cabbage f40ph
A Nice good video
Mike that was pretty good.
Neat video, wonder what maintenance is like on these compared to a standard baggage car, or bi-level cab control cars?
Probably similar to a commuter cab car. Thanks for watching!
I wonder the same thing
Coaster,may I offer a suggestion?maybe you can ride a cab car train
Awesome, keep up the good work😺
RIP NPCU 90208 we will miss your paint
Has the veteran unit came back yet? Also why did Amtrak have to remove its engine?
Amazing Video:)
Uh CoasterFan, you might've notice the baggage door on 90208 (208).
Was all of these trains in this year
About half is from late 2018/2019 and the rest is a mix of some older shots because I wanted to show all the different paint schemes that are on the cabbages.
Ok
Cool
Great video but it’s just so sad to see these as cabbage cars than F40PHs
Yes
Nice video
nice to see f40s are still in use. kinda
Good ol’ cabbage
Amtrak "cabbagized" my beloved F40PH #251! Such a disgrace. :-(
I like the SC-44 it’s so quiet. Then the P 42. I don’t like it. The P 42 because it’s chug noise😅 but the chargers are so quiet to me. You’re more efficient and no one doesn’t want to replace them Every single opera has received old is SS-44 they get a second chance. But the P 42 disease does not get a second chance
Do you think 90208 will go back in into service?
It won’t for a while because of its damage. It may not come back until ether 2021 or 2022
I wonder why the trains that have 2 locomotives have them on the same end? Sometimes they even have 2 locomotives on one end and 2 cabbage cars on the other end. You'd think they would want to use the more modern cab/controls on each end . . . .
I rode the exact consist shown at 0:19. Do they keep that coupled together most of the time?
Nice video Mike and I really like Amtrak here in California what is the train cab name that is dark red and white in Oregon!
Wait.... NPCUs are operational or the train behind it pushes it?
Transit Fan Productions The Locomotive pushes it, the NPCUs don’t have a prime mover.
@@jacksonskyline Oh ok, so they basically cab cars
Yep. They are. 90278 is my favorite cabbage unit
I hope they do this with the genesis locomotives, as they get replaced with chargers.
The funny thing is, Amtrak is planning to replace these, as they are too old. There is a PDF of Amtrak plans for the next 5 years published in January of this year, and they say they wish to replace these, as sad as it is. I can't post proof as mobile TH-cam sucks.
why didn't Amtrak Rebuild there f40phs like other railroads did like? such as New Jersey Transit, MBTA eggcetera.
I wanna ride those trains in CA but I live in MA so it will take me a week to get there by car :(
Make it an around-the-country train trip! Don't know where you live specifically, so I'll guess: Lake Shore Limited to Chicago, then Builder to Seattle, Starlight to L.A., Coaster to San Diego and back to L.A., then Chief to Chicago and Lake Shore home. Or from L.A., take Sunset Limited to NOLA, then Crescent to DC and NW Regional to MA.
In case you're wondering: yes, I'm planning to take a trip like that in the next year or so before Amtrak kills any more routes.
I live in Acushnet Massachusetts
No wonder the Surfliner and the Cascades F59s are sold to Metra!
Um mike are the npcus f40phs?
Hey Mike i see you video 3 year ago
Baggage cab cars? So they don't move on there own like a regular loco?
Nope
I’ll never understand 90250, first it was in Cascades colors, then for some reason it gets removed and it’s back in phase 5, then put into a Seahawks Wrap, now it’s back to Phase 5. Poor odd ball unit.
Why do trains need a double header with NPCUs sometimes
Qantas Pilot101 Extra baggage room
Mike Do More Train Talk Videos.
Rip 90208
It will be repaired and return to service
Eyelove m-trac
Are all these trains in California?
No, some are in the northeast and some are in Washington state
@@jwhitman2005 k
Awesome video mike I've uploaded to new videos on my channel and I have a question for you
Thanks! What's your question?
@@CoasterFan2105 whats your favorite place to Railfan?
I'm so sad about 90208 is crash because the forklift crash the amtrak npcu
:(
CoasterFan2105 Yeah Very Sad
1:13 Nathan K5LA
Mike Do atlanta streetcar
Can you send me some cabbage?
Pji
5:09 Two Chargers AND two NPCUs?! How much power is needed to power a train?!
Testing purposes
Love ur videos but amtrack s boring we need locomotive ones plz❤
aboud 113 we have the sc-44
What more do you want
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I've always found these locomotives very ugly
The Charger locomotives you mean?