Is the Pentagon considering criminal charges against David Grusch?
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David Grusch has been a MAJOR player in the fight for UFO disclosure. The former high level official testified that there was not only a reverse engineering program but that NHI remains have been found. There is a report from The Hill that talks about the recently declassified document of high level politicians dating back to 2011 that wanted to disclosure the reverse engineering programs. Lue Elizondo not only reweeted out this article but insinuated that the Pentagon has already looked into having criminal charges against Grusch for speaking out about UAPs Kristian Harloff discusses.
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I saw the United States Government's Antigravity craft... I absolutely know that they have the technology...
I'm going to share this to my Alien Anunnaki wall... I don't have many people following it but it can't hurt.
Stop repeating yourself. We know you dont know what the f**k you are talking about. Say it in one sentence. Or put it in the pinned comment.
No wonder Grusch never wanted to talk to Kirkpatrick 👀
If the Pentagon is even considering charging Grusch then that tells me that what he has been reporting is true !
They need to make an example out of him
It's not true that they were considering to charge Grusch.
@@jamescoyle4899 if they make an example out of him, they have the spotlight on them from the opinion of anyone invested or interested in the topic at all, if they make an example out of him, they're, whether he goes to prison, pays a fine, or dies for his "charges", he'd become a martyr. Nobody (in intelligence in the last few decades) silences a person who says all the things without giving what they said credibility. it's not good for secret-keeping to punish the whistleblowers, anyone with half a brain knows that the secrets are more easily kept if they don't act against him. I wonder why they'd ever consider it at all. I think the last time someone was silenced , or so it seems, that went really badly is the late 1990s. I'm not saying it was or wasn't the case but I'm pretty sure that Phillip Schneider didn't kill himself.
@@seanabsher5577 yes I’m not saying that they would actually go through with it. I agree with you completely. it would be very foolish on their part. If they went through with it, I don’t doubt though they’re furious, and they would love to make an example out of him.
@@jamescoyle4899 I agree on all points but the last, no matter how furious they are, if they make an example out of him, they martyr him, even if they don't kill him. It shows that he's right. That's definitely the one thing they don't want to make public at all. Why? because they'd be responsible for all the deaths, all the tests, and all the other companies and labs that never got a chance to do research on what they have access to, or had access to --- not sure which, it's all so muddy.
Why would you prosecute someone for something you say doesn't exist??
"for lying"
To make an example out of him
Bingo... They do not want the truth to come out by any means necessary.
@@muellerr12What a joke
Because there all born again CUN*s, Think we are all some stupid idiots, like we just got off the last boat
This makes no sense. He has top secret clearances. Also, they gave them permission to talk and testify among Congress. 🤔🤔🤔🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🙅♂️🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
It's to scare future whistleblowers
@@cyeamaculture8486 The Pentagon's broken AARO has failed The People making it an utter laughing stock with zero credibility.
The majority of The People are waking up to the realisation that they've been a victim of the control-system, in order to keep us dumbed-down, and the secret-keepers and politicians know that the truth is coming out imminently because The People demand it and because all of those who deceived The People must be held Personally Accountable.
Who trusts the pentagon at this point? I don’t see any reason to trust them.
Yep,nope.
NOPE‼️
Look at the last 10 or 15 wars.
So. How do we go about criminal charges on the Pentagon ?? .. real crims
Oh my God, please people protect David they are throwing their final hail marry and it is so desperate lol, keep pushing everybody!!!
Who gets to press charges against the Pentagon for not being able to account for 1.6 TRILLION dollars last year?
Who gets to prosecute the Pentagon for failing its financial audits for the past six years in a row?
I would not be surprised if certain factions within the DOD would like to bring legal action against Grusch, but I
doubt they'll do it. It would only work against their TOP priority of keeping the UAP/UFO topic completely out of public
perception.
But once again, Kristian zeroes in on one of the MAIN aspects of this that needs to be addressed.
Mainstream Media's complete dismissal of the subject. It stinks beyond endurance.
This may be proof-positive that we do not have the Rule of Law.
When we return to the Rule of Law, and the UFO/ UAP Disclosure Process will achieve this, by operation of law, all of the secret-keepers & liars will be held Personally Accountable.
have you read the declassified report on the Robertson panel? there are a few ways to find it, but if government websites aren't your thing, try the black vault. There's an entire section about "educating" the masses and "devaluing" the concept of the UFO topic during the early years of the Cold war, in order to provide more signal bandwidth for military action involved with making sure potential attacks from the USSR didn't go un-noticed.
"the Communist threat is more clear and present than the UFO threat" combined with "we don't have communications resources to handle both the communist threat and the immense quantity of civilian reporting of the UFO topic to military departments"
this is all 1940s to 1960s era discussion stuff in the CIA, some scientists, and military / etc people who decided that documentaries, public school programs, and so on would be a good way to divert attention from the UFO topic by making it less important.
One thing I have heard that sticks in my mind is that people have died because of it. That is a question that needs to be answered. Why and if so who was responsible?
Well , Boeing Whistleblower death count: 2. Same club.
The charges may be against office bearers of the Pentagon, the director of National Intelligence and Kirkpatric for lying to The People.
there's a degree of evidence, or at minimum whispers across the ether (internet etc) that have said that some if not most of the threat of death is due to UFO / UAP hardware being fatal if too close to a human while in the right operational mode / power level / etc.
There's also a lot of stories about decades of "silencing" being done to keep secrets. (take with that a grain of salt, but I believe some people may have been killed by program operators and officials and "clean up crews" who's goals were to keep things secret at any and all costs)
Ask yourself why J Allen Hynek worked for Blue book and later said that while a majority of reports were misidentifications etc, there was a non-zero quantity of valid unexplained phenomena, and the during his time working on Blue book, the instruction was to discredit or explain away any and all reports of UFOs, even if there was no other way to legitimately explain it, it was still to be swept away with the rest of the reports as non-issues.
I love what you, Pavel, Patrick, Ben, Jack, Matt, AJ, Christina and all the other Content Creators are doing for the community. KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK AND MORE COLLABORATION PLEASE.
I don't see how they could press charges at this point. He went through the appropriate channels, he did DOPSYR. So everything he's said was approved. Only thing I could think if they had a chance would be if he slipped up. Being he hasn't spoken at all lately and this is new news, I'd go with they were pulling at straws in the beginning. Thanks Kristian. Another great piece!
Grusch did everything by the book. To attempt to arrest him would just expose thr cover-up even more.
Would explain why he's reluctant to speak at SALT conference potentially adding more routes to pursue charges
Totally agree
Hence why he’s always been insistent on asking for clearance from the senate
I agree with you Kristian, I think the investigation may reference actions they were considering taking against Grusch when he first came forward. But, if this is referencing current/ongoing investigations, then this sounds like an intimidation tactic against Grusch himself and any other potential whistleblowers. That wouldn't be out of character for our government.
Whomever charges him should be immediately indicted by the justice dept since whatever they’re doing is illegal in the first place. Imagine charging someone with a crime for exposing you committing a crime. 🙄
Most all of the people who started all this secret space program are either old basketcases or have gone to be with the lord...that's why it's finally coming out at all...that way they can say..ohhhh we didn't lie to the public...those other old guys did...so the finger can't really be pointed...that's why they put these ridiculous disclosure timeframes.
A prosecution of Grusch would only put a giant spotlight on the matter. There's probably some other flavor of skullduggery going on.
It stunk pretty bad to begin with but it’s beginning to rot and the smell is just getting worse. The public is gonna have to either get accustomed to the stench or stand together and clean up the poopy diaper.
Truth
I see a down to earth upload, I click, simple 🙌
Kris, loved the 'cast. Here's how I see it. IF AARO or any intelligence agency is going after Grush with charges, then this is a TOTAL admission to his testimony. Otherwise, why would you charge him with anything? He's got to be, not just rocking the boat, but capsizing it. I love the thought of Sean Kirkpatrick or some Intel chief just sitting in his office, fuming. Just turning purple livid with what is getting out. This has gotta be their worst nightmare. Because when the ship sinks, we'll see the rats drown. At this point, I don't really care about disclosure (much). What I want to see is the Deep State come tumbling down. I want these corrupt, lying, stealing scumbags brought to justice. Or, in lieu of that, at least drummed out of the corps. That is my golden delight and I pray it comes to fruition one day.
I’m thinking something else ‘maybe big’ is coming and it’s the quiet before the storm. We have all been waiting for the next big thing after Grusch…maybe a first hand witness, maybe info that would push towards disclosure? I just have a feeling something is coming. Keep up these great videos. You are doing so much to help the masses that are waking up, understand.
They have been saying something big is just around the corner since last year..yet here we are almost half way through 2024 and the ole toothpaste has dried up and nothing is coming out the tube.
Everything was approved for the hearings,can`t see what they can charge him with,maybe try and slow things down,but that`s it
Agreed
@@DOWNTOEARTHKH Dave Grusch did let it slip, in his testimony, that 'they' were extraterrestrials, but at this point, everybody knows this anyway.
We need to get Mr.FOIA, Ashton Forbes, on the case to FOIA what kind of legal paperwork is out there regarding brush.
Where's POTUS in all of this? Seems like he could force things to be declassified.
Asleep at the wheel, yet again.
Biden can barely string together a sentence these days. He is the last person I'd want the disclosure to come from. Can you imagine him trying to mumble his way through that press conference? Ugh, no thank you. Let's keep the current and any soon-to-be Presidents out of this topic, please.
W or Obama would’ve been good disclosure presidents
He’s too busy gathering aid for other countries and stomping on first amendment rights of American citizens.
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So AARO releases a report saying “nothing to see here” but they were going to prosecute someone for revealing details about the “nothing to see here” program. Yeah, good luck with that prosecution.
But tbh I’m weary of all the bigwig types on the circuit. If there were ever a UFO bigwig circuit members badge, the motto should read “someone told me”
I don’t believe he’s being prosecuted. But we’ll see won’t we.
Forgive my sarcasm
Cheers Kristian
I'm feeling the same way. The "you will see soon" and "sources" gets old after awhile.
I wish someone would flat out ask Kirkpatrick if he is saying people like Bob Jacobs and Mario Woods are liars.
@@superbwater78yep, it’s just so fishy. TY
Thanks for reporting Kris. Agree with the lack of mainstream coverage; but at this point it’s got to be clear a narrative is being controlled here. Just like pressure on the US government, I think it’s time we direct efforts into finding our own answers.
Great words as usual Kristian👍👍
Another great show Kristian. Keep pushing, there's obviously something really deep and important going on.
How can they arrest him for talking about a subject they say doesn't exist? Wouldn't they need a trial and than his legal team would just subpoena witnesses to collaborate his claims.
A military trial is completely different in a public trial
@@jamescoyle4899 I'm by no means an expert, but I don't think this would involve a military trial. The DoD is still part of the federal government, meaning any charges would be federal.
@@mikethehunter5212 good point!
@@mikethehunter5212 Plus, Dave Grusch was a civilian operative at the equivalent level as a military colonel.
Thank you for raising awareness of the UFO situation..
I think this story will be mainstream soon.
God damn! It really feels like things are coming to a head right now. Let’s ROCK! 😎
First time watching. Thumbs up!!
Reading that last part carefully, I think it's implying that the justice dpt is looking at potential criminal charges in relation to gruschs complaint... as in charges related to any retaliation he might of been subject to, and maybe also charges that could relate to any law broken, criminal activity that occurred in an effort to maintain secrecy of the alleged programs. That's how I read it anyway.
I would agree.
Having spoken personally with someone close to Grusch, I can confirm that there is nothing exciting about why he is not going to SALT. Not everything is a thing.
Love these updates
Someone should setup a Twitter/Insta/Facebook group and get Kristian, Patrick and others from the community to endorse and organise a mass email campaign to Congress/Pentagon.
Well said!!!
Listen, I think that the people subscribed to this channel and like what was said in this podcast should copy the link, add a footnote and send it to Fox News, CNN and other major news networks’ editors desks, and ask them why they are not covering this?
If we all did this, day after day after day- let’s see what would happen?
One sure thing is that it would block up their inboxes!!!
I see a lot of comments like, "Why prosecute him if it's not true?" I get that and I suspect that it might actually be true. That said, the pentagon has an easy path to hand wave away concerns about that.
All they have to say is that he was incorrect, and exhibited gross negligence and incompetence in his investigation, wasting the time of government officials and tax dollars while drawing public eye to a non-existent issue and getting dangerously close to exposing real but conventional and prosaic SAPs threatening national security.
I mean it's possible the second part of what you said is true.
@@TweezerShred That is also possible for sure.
He was authorized by the ICIG and the issue was labeled URGENT….but there’s nothing to see and now he’s facing charges? My momma lie detector test says something aint right.
Yes but he got the go ahead from the relevant authorities to say what he said. But yes these bastards are capable of anything, because they just don't want this made public. And they will try and try forever and a day...
I have to imagine that if they try it, the ICIG will step in and remind those treasonous snakes that he has the "Grusch file."
They go after Grusch, and succeed, game over.
Not necessarily. I'd imagine he would go down as a martyr. Pentagon put themselves in zugzwang if they actually charge him.
Holy shit you’re not wearing a hat haha
If Grusch were indicted at this point it would trigger a firestorm of protest.
It would bring their whole House of Cards down as Dave Grusch could sue the DOD as he knows where the bodies are and knows where specific pieces of evidence are. Notwithstanding, he could call all 40+ first hand witnesses to give witness testimony.
Just found Down to Earth on Spotify. It's going to be my nite nite listen .
Awesome. Yeah, we put our longform show on there also so you will have a lot of fun.
Thanks Kristen, you can thank our friend mutual Patrick, for me finding you and Pavel. Love what you're doing and the collaboration is awesome. @@DOWNTOEARTHKH
first time I've seen Kristian without a hat
The problem with that is everything he said cleared a Dopsr review by the department of defense. Just like when former military members write a book and their stories and the details are cleared for what you can mention.
Keep in mind.. that these unacknowledged programs are also “unacknowledged” for a reason.
If these defence contractors are tried in any court, the programs don’t exist.
They are fully covered, because there is “no such program”
From the Hill article; "In another fascinating twist, Kirkpatrick told Mellon that the Department of Justice is in possession of Grusch’s whistleblower complaint alleging the existence of illegal UFO programs “since it’s part of a criminal investigation.”
Could this mean that Mr Grusch cannot make public comments because he is a witness for a pending prosecution rather than a defendant?
Good info. Thanks.
15:20 I will be using this when I get to work tomorrow
Great video
I appreciate you letting me comment Kristian. Most channels blocked me because I'm a skeptic. I'm at the point of becoming disinterested in this whole thing and I'm probably going to bow out for a while and focus my attention on other things for a while but good luck on the channel and I hope you are able to see through the BS being thrown out there left and right.
Skeptic point of view is important but so is respect to both sides right? As long as everyone is cordial, everyone should have a voice. Thats my thought process.
We seemed to have achieved reverse engineering. Now the push is to contain it.
You took the hat off!!!!! Ok . Your not bald. Allright ill subscribe. .
I don’t think anything is off the table for those in the know to keep this away from mainstream consciousness
Eighty years of secrecy. Keep chipping away. 🛸👽✨
This (topic) IS insane and it DOES stink! This CHANNEL is legit tho thanks for always breaking it down 🙏 🍿🍿🍿
Good stuff
The old rev.-eng. prg. was for a lot of the WW2 Stuff. One of them was the Horten H XI witch got later refurbished. The Horten H IX V3 can be seen in The Air & Space Museum in San Diego. A lot of the old "UFO" cases went back to Delta Flyer´s or "Triangel-Shaped UFO´s", even in South America. We had Quartett Card games with the experimental planes.
The opposition will go to any length to keep this a niche topic. They have been successful for 70+ years.
This will be a long fight!
That’s why Grusch was smart and said things within his range. He did his homework and had/has knowledgeable lawyers. They woulda fried his butt in a heartbeat if they could had!!!
Stephen greensteet was interviewing the lovely Sean Kirkpatrick on his channel few days ago and I am surprised nobody had covered this yet?
What's the story?
A lot of very interesting things said there.👍🇮🇪👍
It would be a really big deal if they arrested Grucsh and charged him. Isn’t that the same as the criminals arrest, the victim and witness of a crime? How is that possible? If it happens that could easily cause a constitutional crisis in our country.
Elizondo and Grusch have known each other for years.
It's not complicated, you work it out.🤔
Other first handers need to come out now to back him up!!
If there's nothing to Grusch's allegations, why are they trying to keep him from making further claims? 👽
Once again, great job Kristian! Your efforts are appreciated. My guess would be that the Pentagon probably tried to blackmail Grusch with threats of prosecution but since he had gone through all the necessary legal and security channels, they couldn't do shit. This is typical of how the system works. The extreme, worst case scenario is when people go missing on a fishing trip, fall out of a window (a favorite of Russian Intelligence), have a sudden heart attack or get killed in a mugging. It is aggravating that legacy media outlets are totally ignoring this issue. With very few exceptions, the networks are staying as far away from this subject as possible. And when I ask among friends and casual acquaintances what they think about this stuff they usually look at me like I just grew a second head. If the government, shadow or not, wants to get to David Grusch or any of the other witnesses or whistle blowers, they can and they will. Trust no one. Keep your back to the wall. Thanks again for the video today, Kristian! See you tomorrow.
Nice to see your hair. Fresh look.
The pentagon is so quick to want to prosecute whistleblowers, yet i believe there needs to be more emphasis on prosecuting officials like Kirkpatrick for lying. They need to be held to their own standards.
Aaro needs to be held accountable
Grushes reserve ace in the hole may be his op ed. “Lean on me too much and the op ed drops”.
Wouldn't they have to disclose the reasons for the charge publicly? And would they have to release the evidences or stuffvlike that to the public as well?
Charges could also have been made on Grusch's behalf related to his whistle-blower case, as his life and family were threatened. That might account for his case being in the hands of the DOJ.
How do we have been having so many generals, majors telling that they had the knowing like Philip Corso for example.. and do we still hear these non truth tellers? And again… who are “they”, the people that are doing these things to whistleblowers? Their names?
Is it possible to get Bob Greenyer and/or Salvatore Pais on the show?
You present the latest news in a great way. I’m glad I found your channel to get the latest updates from the greatest story never told. We need people like you who continue to keep information out there. Don’t let it discourage you. Keep up the fight.
Grusch has been very careful not to violate his dopsor so i don't know how they could charge him ? also he is a patriot how can we allow his name and record to be slander by these cowards.
I doubt they can criminally charge Grusch if he has already submitted formal complaints that would be seen as retaliation. Kirkpatrick needs to provide us a list of his definitions on the UAP topic before any future interviews; enough of the semantics.
Maybe he isn't talking because they crossed some line that has him very spooked.
Okay You Asked For it ! So here is my take on Courageous and Honorable David Grusch ! There's little doubt in my mind the Man has a lot on his plate ! Making The Salt Conference would certainly Not be at the top of my go to list If I were Him ! Protecting my family and my own 6 would be ! I agree that the Pentagon question and allegations may be weighing on Mr Grusch but more importantly the outstanding litigations he has to protect his family and himself ... Because of his Courage to testify before Congress certainly has more weight on him ! I Certainly would put my family first !
Bad idea. Real bad. He has the former ICIG and Danny Sheehan. They will force so much info into the public record. That would be catastrophic disclosure. And Grusch walks away the hero
A huge amount of lies requires even more lies to cover up, then it just keeps going.
mmm down to feed podcast
After Roswell in which members of the Army Air Corp saw the wreck of a Project Mogul spy balloon and went to the press, the decision was made to create these bureaucratic entities where servicemen who unkowingly saw a black budget project were supposed to go and report it to and not spread it. These things are catch and kill operations. As seen with Roswell, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The cleanup becomes a big problem.
If they sue him - more information will be exposed
Dang, so hatless!
Who ever the 'Gate Keeper' is ......arrest him and charge him with the obstruction of justice (or something similar).
All of the above. The gatekeepers will do everything to keep this quiet.
I think it really could just be scheduling
Kristian great talk like always. Also you should point this fact out to people making two things that seem unrelated but definitely are related. David grusch and Boeing whistleblowers. David grusch was asked if people have been hurt or killed his answer was I directed to them to the proper authorities so the answer was yes. Now two boeing whistle blowers were killed for testifying about the quality issues Boeing has. Boeing is a military contractor. So in my personal opinion this proves david statement he made to Congress. If a military contractor is willing to kill over quality issue then they definitely will kill over uap information. Difference between the two cases is that Congress is protecting the uap whistleblowers.
Also side note Dr John McDowell and two other American scientists have confirmed the nazca bodies to be real the ones they studied and concluded, but they don’t know what they are and he has told the scientific community they are real and more research need to be done by more scientists on them. Also he is trying to get the Peruvian government to release the bodies to the US so he can study them with better equipment.
They're not going to press charges against Grusch... he's done everything by the book...they're scaring off future whistleblowers
As a hypothetical, imagine if you were David Grusch and you knew you were 100% going to jail and theres nothing that could be done. Would you then do a catastrophic disclosure and tell all? Ie - if I'm going to jail I might as well go down swinging (tell all).
I would make the choice that was best for my family.
I promised. You took hat off. Ill subscribe.
You have a cranium? And hair? Learn something new everyday.
Yeah, holy shit. This is my first time seeing it too.
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This all makes sense .. His OpEd isn’t out yet.. Grusch always says he can’t talk about certain things because he’s involved in some investigations, and now his SALT conference appearance isn’t gonna happen .. all probably because the Pentagon is investigating him for this .. also makes sense now why he didn’t want to meet with AARO not just cause him and Kirkpatrick don’t like each other.
Spiritual battles have a lot of collateral damage, unfortunately. The adversary wants souls dead or alive, and has no inhibitions how to collect them
Why the empty picture frame behind you ?
Moving
If your being charged for something than that means what you were saying has merit.
It would be dumb if they did charge him considering he hasn’t released any evidence yet except ‘trust me bro’
My guess is he's working with the senators over these hearings they want to have , that is more important as it will get the headlines more.
Clearly the big shots want to stop the truth is why DG is under the radar, also most likely he's being threatened if he's supposed to go to public meetings about this matter, again this is keeping power and control over everything. They don't want to reveal anything because it might be doing something good to the world, for human kind getting better . And that will cost them big time.
The pentagon should be investigate their cover up programs are obvious