Skiing has been in my blood from 5 years old to present day.i can remember dad"ski coach"put me in a canoe got me to stand look straight ahead and keep my balance only using my legs.i had a few coaches since then,and still pick up some valuable info watching some of your vids. Thanks for sharing Deb
Great video! Tightening the turning radius by shortening the inside ski: I totally agree. That makes the center of the gravity of the body to move inside the turn to create higher edge angle. It makes sense. But, to do that, both legs/knees have to be close together so that shortening of the inside leg occurs vertically along the leg. Widely accepted wide-stance skiing doesn't work since you really can't balance with your legs/knees wide apart.
Stance is wide only in transition at high speeds (and steeps). Watch carefully. But for rec skiers they will never experience the force of World Cup racing, so they should focus on ‘separation in the vertical plane’, and keep the horizontal separation as a natural standing-stance.
Many people get confused about this separation issue. Your "feet" get separated as you shorten your inside leg. When you do this, your hip gets down and closer to the slope to create a good balance and a higher edge angle. But, while the distance between your "feet" gets wider, your "legs/knees" have to be closer together. I've never seen a good racer who ski with his/her legs/knees wide open. I only see that in bunny slopes and green trails.
not really. I guess that is a video I need to do. how to shorten a leg, how to flex a leg. Well, you do it when you ride a bike. Anyway, i will have to make a video on this topic. Take care
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Great. I've never raced but am a 59 year old racer wanna be. I would like to learn how to get my inside hip closer to the ground during GS turns.
@@stevenfleisig6330 the ‘trick’ is, in essence, to go faster. At higher speeds, there’s more downhill momentum to resist and the edge angle is higher, allowing the hip to get lower/closer to the hill. You can do it with great muscular effort at slow speeds, but that’s no fun, and no benefit.
Hey Deb, Why do most coaches always tell their athletes to get forward vs. staying centred? Last time I checked you never see a WC athlete hanging on the front of their boots. The comment at 8:58 "the more forward you don't end up rotated??" last time I checked one leads to the other... Keep up the good work!
Not Deb but, I think the point is that if your center of mass gets behind your feet your inside shoulder and even hip can get caught behind causing the rotation. To avoid getting caught behind the turn and get quickly into our next turn we need to force our center of mass down the hill. You can see WC athletes push down the hill with incredible force to translate the power of the ski's flex into froward momentum. If you look at any still shot of say Ted Ligety in the apex of the turn, observe his ankle flexion. You can see even on the extended outside leg how much he is flexing the boot, in this sense, yes WC athletes are "hanging on the front of their boots."
@@TheLawyerMechanic I bet if you ask Ted he'll tell you he's moving more laterally vs. forward especially at the apex. This is what allows him to resist the force/pull to the outside of the turn and maintain his edge/steering angle. In terms of balance the same goes for if you get too far forward... You'll rotate every time. Because you've twisted yourself into the turn, the tails of the skis are unable to grip the snow. Hence why not just move appropriately to stay centered... let gravity do the work for you while you focus on redirecting your mass on the best line possible to ski the fastest using your lower body..... Its mostly semantics and a different way to think about how to achieve the desired result.
@@kristian1977 as @connor s. Coupe said, I’m not deb either but I’ll share my thoughts :) i mostly agree and I don’t think you are wrong, but we may also consider that Ted is a very strong and fully developed adult with lots of strength, fine motor control, and feel to regulate the pressures to his boot tongues and the soles (finessing the forefoot and heel) independently from each other which allow him to topple or move laterally while still driving his mass down the hill also; these require cognitive and fine psycho motor skills that often times kids haven’t developed yet. Also as kids grow their heads typically grow faster than their bodies so their center of mass is much higher than an adults (proportionately to their body) therefore they will have a tendency to get backseat from an early age and this creates a habit that continues even when they have grown more into adult proportions. Coaching them to simply get forward is retraining them to move the COM forward to drive the skis and maintain a degree of flexion in the cuff which as far as priority in skill progression goes, would rate higher than topple and pressure through the bottom of the foot; which they will build upon as their muscular ability and psychomotor skills (or brain body connection) develops further. I think that then being centered and keeping the tails from washing out is more a result of foot flexion, regulating pressure to the forefoot in initiation, to centered at the apex, and slightly to the heel in the finish phase. The foot flexion is a more fine motor skill that comes once the ankle flexion and cuff pressure is established. Knowing where the kids are in their physical and mental development is important because if we ask them to do something that their body and brain aren’t quite capable of yet we risk confusing them and making them feel defeated since they can’t accomplish the task yet and it’s not their fault. Great point to bring up Kristian, it would be awesome to hear Deb’s feedback on this!
@@justinrichardson1918 Hey just saw your comment. Very well articulated! Whats your thoughts on getting forward vs. pulling your feet back? An athlete who develops mobility in the lower joints can stay better balanced and use the skis as they were designed. This stronger alignment will also allow them to resit and manipulate the forces that can help build speed.... Working the ski tip to tail I feel is a thing of the past. Im not sure the advantage to this exists as it disrupts the balance along the skis length and then puts the athlete in a constant recovery move... (slow) I do agree that younger athletes U10 (but not all) have a challenge staying centered as their legs havnt developed yet to the point were they can. I'd still show them how and develop mobility and let the skill work with the strength as they get stronger. You never know until you let them try. Train to train. I believe in not teaching something that I will have to unteach later.. My two cents.
I agree. Totally looks like Steamboat. (Just checked a photo I took last year. They are definitely on Howelsen Hill with Steamboat in the background. )
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You are the ultimate teacher- each and everyone one of your videos teaches me something. Forever grateful 😊❄️❤️
Love it. Have an awesome season Brenda. Spread the skistrong message😉
Great lessons Deb. Thanks for your work and sharing. So nice when an Olympian devotes themselves to the same excellence in teaching.
Another epic tutorial. Thanks so much for sharing your talents.
thanks Debra. My U8 Skiers learn so much from your videos.
Devi Prasad
Great advise thanks Deb!!
Thank you! Hope to see you at Jahorina
Skiing has been in my blood from 5 years old to present day.i can remember dad"ski coach"put me in a canoe got me to stand look straight ahead and keep my balance only using my legs.i had a few coaches since then,and still pick up some valuable info watching some of your vids.
Thanks for sharing Deb
LOVE your canoe story!!! so fun. all the best and happy skiing
Wow. Hope to use all of this.
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Hard core!
Wow those U10s are pretty big!
I love your channel, well maybe you love is a bit strong but great stuff.
Deb thank you so much for your videos! I would love to see something on handling speed. How to get more comfortable going faster?
Skill level, with more skill and control comes more comfort with speed. Enjoy!!!
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Varying leg lengths = telemark
Great video! Tightening the turning radius by shortening the inside ski: I totally agree. That makes the center of the gravity of the body to move inside the turn to create higher edge angle. It makes sense. But, to do that, both legs/knees have to be close together so that shortening of the inside leg occurs vertically along the leg. Widely accepted wide-stance skiing doesn't work since you really can't balance with your legs/knees wide apart.
Not true. The steeper the slope the wider the stance. If you narrow your stance
on a steep slope at high speed, down you go, crash.
2drsdan totally agree. How wide the stance is depends on speed. The higher the speed the wider the stance. Just my 2 cents
Stance is wide only in transition at high speeds (and steeps). Watch carefully. But for rec skiers they will never experience the force of World Cup racing, so they should focus on ‘separation in the vertical plane’, and keep the horizontal separation as a natural standing-stance.
Many people get confused about this separation issue. Your "feet" get separated as you shorten your inside leg. When you do this, your hip gets down and closer to the slope to create a good balance and a higher edge angle. But, while the distance between your "feet" gets wider, your "legs/knees" have to be closer together. I've never seen a good racer who ski with his/her legs/knees wide open. I only see that in bunny slopes and green trails.
@@KenpoOjoko Exactly. Separation in the VERTICAL plane, not the HORIZONTAL plane.
Deb - do you have any videos that show how to shorten the inside leg during GS type turns on green or blue groomers?
not really. I guess that is a video I need to do. how to shorten a leg, how to flex a leg. Well, you do it when you ride a bike. Anyway, i will have to make a video on this topic. Take care
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Great. I've never raced but am a 59 year old racer wanna be. I would like to learn how to get my inside hip closer to the ground during GS turns.
@@stevenfleisig6330 the ‘trick’ is, in essence, to go faster. At higher speeds, there’s more downhill momentum to resist and the edge angle is higher, allowing the hip to get lower/closer to the hill. You can do it with great muscular effort at slow speeds, but that’s no fun, and no benefit.
Hey Deb, Why do most coaches always tell their athletes to get forward vs. staying centred? Last time I checked you never see a WC athlete hanging on the front of their boots. The comment at 8:58 "the more forward you don't end up rotated??" last time I checked one leads to the other... Keep up the good work!
Not Deb but, I think the point is that if your center of mass gets behind your feet your inside shoulder and even hip can get caught behind causing the rotation. To avoid getting caught behind the turn and get quickly into our next turn we need to force our center of mass down the hill. You can see WC athletes push down the hill with incredible force to translate the power of the ski's flex into froward momentum. If you look at any still shot of say Ted Ligety in the apex of the turn, observe his ankle flexion. You can see even on the extended outside leg how much he is flexing the boot, in this sense, yes WC athletes are "hanging on the front of their boots."
@@TheLawyerMechanic I bet if you ask Ted he'll tell you he's moving more laterally vs. forward especially at the apex. This is what allows him to resist the force/pull to the outside of the turn and maintain his edge/steering angle.
In terms of balance the same goes for if you get too far forward... You'll rotate every time. Because you've twisted yourself into the turn, the tails of the skis are unable to grip the snow. Hence why not just move appropriately to stay centered... let gravity do the work for you while you focus on redirecting your mass on the best line possible to ski the fastest using your lower body.....
Its mostly semantics and a different way to think about how to achieve the desired result.
@@kristian1977 as @connor s. Coupe said, I’m not deb either but I’ll share my thoughts :) i mostly agree and I don’t think you are wrong, but we may also consider that Ted is a very strong and fully developed adult with lots of strength, fine motor control, and feel to regulate the pressures to his boot tongues and the soles (finessing the forefoot and heel) independently from each other which allow him to topple or move laterally while still driving his mass down the hill also; these require cognitive and fine psycho motor skills that often times kids haven’t developed yet. Also as kids grow their heads typically grow faster than their bodies so their center of mass is much higher than an adults (proportionately to their body) therefore they will have a tendency to get backseat from an early age and this creates a habit that continues even when they have grown more into adult proportions. Coaching them to simply get forward is retraining them to move the COM forward to drive the skis and maintain a degree of flexion in the cuff which as far as priority in skill progression goes, would rate higher than topple and pressure through the bottom of the foot; which they will build upon as their muscular ability and psychomotor skills (or brain body connection) develops further. I think that then being centered and keeping the tails from washing out is more a result of foot flexion, regulating pressure to the forefoot in initiation, to centered at the apex, and slightly to the heel in the finish phase. The foot flexion is a more fine motor skill that comes once the ankle flexion and cuff pressure is established. Knowing where the kids are in their physical and mental development is important because if we ask them to do something that their body and brain aren’t quite capable of yet we risk confusing them and making them feel defeated since they can’t accomplish the task yet and it’s not their fault. Great point to bring up Kristian, it would be awesome to hear Deb’s feedback on this!
@@justinrichardson1918 Hey just saw your comment. Very well articulated!
Whats your thoughts on getting forward vs. pulling your feet back? An athlete who develops mobility in the lower joints can stay better balanced and use the skis as they were designed. This stronger alignment will also allow them to resit and manipulate the forces that can help build speed....
Working the ski tip to tail I feel is a thing of the past. Im not sure the advantage to this exists as it disrupts the balance along the skis length and then puts the athlete in a constant recovery move... (slow)
I do agree that younger athletes U10 (but not all) have a challenge staying centered as their legs havnt developed yet to the point were they can. I'd still show them how and develop mobility and let the skill work with the strength as they get stronger. You never know until you let them try. Train to train. I believe in not teaching something that I will have to unteach later..
My two cents.
Those are not u10s. they are u16. I filmed the 16s as examples for the u10s to watch.
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Deb, get some kinko mittens, we are letting you in the club...
HA! I am in the club already😉😉
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong lol for certain.
Where is this?
Sure looks like Steamboat there in the background. :-)
I agree. Totally looks like Steamboat. (Just checked a photo I took last year. They are definitely on Howelsen Hill with Steamboat in the background. )