Thanks as always! Currently running mbt with Uncle and Thorn for base shield and b2b, Uncle/havoc in the field. Probably going SH instead of infantry for b2b as I have little infantry research.
Thanks for uploading warpath content consistently.These videos have helped me improve in warpath quite a lot.Thanks you so much and I'm looking forward to the future videos❤
I recently started again and the alliance I’m in prioritises liberty heavy tank. 300% base damage so an AG melts bases, plus way better speed and armour than artillery. I’m interested to see how well it does later in the game, so far we’ve dominated everyone though.
Could you also do a test of the Martyr Infantry vs Vanguard/Liberty Infantry when tanking a base ? I'm not interested in the officer impact but rather in the unit performance itself
I think consensus is that martyrs best for tanking and vanguard best for field fighting. So if your infantry focused having both i best otherwise i think martyrs would be most useful to get.
@@scottcamuto8410 I'm already using a Liberty Infantry for both tanking and field. I was just curious to see exactly if there's a big difference or a tiny difference between Martyr and Liberty infantries when it comes to tanking bases.
@@alexandrei1977 martyrs infantry special is larger hp and enhanced fortification for less damage. Liberty special ability is smoke bomb. I would look forward to an infantry video but based on what death scoopes video on infantry my own alliance infantry specialist and own research martyrs infantry is significantly better at tanking.
there are many tests like this that i would LOVE to test but the reality is i dont own them buddy, i dont have a test account, (i wish i did) but i really dont have the ability to test something like this unless i ownall the units.. one day i will!
sure but if the person who is controlling the SH actually pays attention they can just move the SH 1 grid and your tactic will miss as it has a 3 second timer to hit
If base has an anti tank gun then infantry. If not then sh normally. However doing an entire tech tree just for infantry is usually not preferred whereas tanks are usually best for their well roundedness (light tanks mbs helis and shs)
i can show this testing one day BUT its not going to be super accurate down to tech related things and the fact that i dont have the best officers for infantry
But if a base Has a ATG and no RL use the infatnry, if it has RL but not ATG use a SH... BUT if it has a RL and an ATG then you need to look at what else is there maybe if its all arty then use SH but if its all tanks then use infantry
using iron cavellier and svalin as a comparison team is slightly tilted in favor of th eSH, since they have SH specific bonus in tacticals or other skills. you should redo that with an officer set that is universally applicable to MB and SH. Like Uncle/Thorn or Uncle Svallin whatever. In the end, you proof that the officer pair is doing bette ron SH, not that the SH itself is doing better than MB, i think. Maybe im just nitpicking :)
sure they have buffs that help the sh BUT even without them the officers i used in the video are still better than thorn/steel and so on as the remaining skills are much stronger
If you had Steel, thorn and uncle (and iron cavaliers 3rd skill to level 5) which officers would you use to tank? Steel and uncle or thorn and uncle? Or thorn and steel?
Great work mate .. just one small remark : if the attacked base had Saber inside then it might change the resusts drastically due to his random skill activation time
I have MBT maxed for Martyr, Vanguard... Vanguard MBT is so much better and again... a fully maxed MBT is stronger than most "normal" Super Heavies. Especially If techs neither Techs and Parts are not maxed. I end up tanking bases many times... It does however not work for every base. Some bases just destroy MBTs and others he can tank really well.
yes of course it does depend on the units in the base your attacking 100% but if you are maxing out an MBT you should compair it to a maxed out SH and in that situation the SH will last much much longer
@ I am not contradiction you, I am just stating my observations as a field fighter and SH is totally useless for me. With maxed tech and officers you can still create a very tanky MBT. Also Vanguard MBT trains as fast as a light tank, which is a huge + The tanky MBT can sit in an AG of other MBTS and takes a while before it is being destroyed, which gives the other units time to attack and he can occasionally tank a base. Of course not a Collector 84 1B base :D But up to 475m everything is just food in epic. Fast training, fast movement, decent tanky. That is why I will always prio the MBT over SH. It is a different use scenario, but a valid one.
What I mean, is that people running SHs are usually Arty people, and they do not have Maxed Tank Research. My MBT with Maxed Research can tank decently enough vs the "average" SH. Therefore my Arty is not as strong as theirs :D (at least not in the next 3 weeks)
Mvt is more reliable curent in Moscow C4 silver 1 and the field is full off mbs also Roket luncher and mbs for fast base atacks . I am a small acc only whit 7.2 howi and is bad to meet guys whit twice your power
Cheers for making this as you know this is the big question I’ve been going back to for like ever
hope it puts your mind at ease :)
Thanks as always! Currently running mbt with Uncle and Thorn for base shield and b2b, Uncle/havoc in the field. Probably going SH instead of infantry for b2b as I have little infantry research.
you dont need much reserch for infantry but yeah if you have lots of tank tech already best to go with a SH
Hmm so Ivan as the captain and Thorn as aide? I have a 7.1* HT with Thorn awakened as a f2p will be working on Ivan and promoting asap.
Thanks for uploading warpath content consistently.These videos have helped me improve in warpath quite a lot.Thanks you so much and I'm looking forward to the future videos❤
thankyou so much @Kaung472 i appriciate the support!
Man the quality in these
hope you like them buddy
I recently started again and the alliance I’m in prioritises liberty heavy tank. 300% base damage so an AG melts bases, plus way better speed and armour than artillery. I’m interested to see how well it does later in the game, so far we’ve dominated everyone though.
yeah once you are 200m a rally of liberte tanks will do nothing lol sorry to say this but its not a good strategy
When you convert to a modern tank, Vanguard will have the highest Fortification Damage. 1.33 * 200% instead of 1.28 * 200% and 1.29 * 200%
I have both units, with the new combo I swap fast between both units. Sh when need hit bases and mb for field and def set up.
yeah the new pre sets are a game changer!
what about Steel and thorn? Maybe u could make a spreadsheet as a screenshoot?
they are just not worth it at this stage in the game buddy
Could you also do a test of the Martyr Infantry vs Vanguard/Liberty Infantry when tanking a base ? I'm not interested in the officer impact but rather in the unit performance itself
I think consensus is that martyrs best for tanking and vanguard best for field fighting. So if your infantry focused having both i best otherwise i think martyrs would be most useful to get.
@@scottcamuto8410 I'm already using a Liberty Infantry for both tanking and field. I was just curious to see exactly if there's a big difference or a tiny difference between Martyr and Liberty infantries when it comes to tanking bases.
@@alexandrei1977 martyrs infantry special is larger hp and enhanced fortification for less damage. Liberty special ability is smoke bomb. I would look forward to an infantry video but based on what death scoopes video on infantry my own alliance infantry specialist and own research martyrs infantry is significantly better at tanking.
there are many tests like this that i would LOVE to test but the reality is i dont own them buddy, i dont have a test account, (i wish i did) but i really dont have the ability to test something like this unless i ownall the units.. one day i will!
Gracias por la información bro
What officers and units are suitable for base defense?
what do you mean sorry, can you elaborate a little? do you mean sh or MBT or do you mean any units?
@ All units, where is good for base defense and what are the officers.
howies are always going to be best for base defence as they deliver the most firepower and dmg
MB is more useful overall... also even the superheavy dies in 1 hit from a tactic. I always target the tank.
sure but if the person who is controlling the SH actually pays attention they can just move the SH 1 grid and your tactic will miss as it has a 3 second timer to hit
@@MoreScop3s When people go for my base the tank has no room to move :D
Is sh or inf better for tanking a base?
Good question
If base has an anti tank gun then infantry. If not then sh normally. However doing an entire tech tree just for infantry is usually not preferred whereas tanks are usually best for their well roundedness (light tanks mbs helis and shs)
I have several accs. Infantry with no tech sucks at tanking but a SH with no tech does ok
i can show this testing one day BUT its not going to be super accurate down to tech related things and the fact that i dont have the best officers for infantry
But if a base Has a ATG and no RL use the infatnry, if it has RL but not ATG use a SH... BUT if it has a RL and an ATG then you need to look at what else is there maybe if its all arty then use SH but if its all tanks then use infantry
SH will always last longer because it has a built in officer skill DMG resilience
yeah and the highter slopped armour meaning the vehicles do less dmg to them overall
Use Steel fist and uncle on MB. I use that to tank bases with MBTs
this would work but iron and uncle is still better option.. overall its not going to last as long as a SH tho
Will Thorn and Uncle Ivanok combo works when b2b? I only have those two as of right now
uncle first then thorn works really well too but iron cavalier is better
yes thorn and unlcle will work! just wont last as long, when you can if you want the best get iron cavalier
LOLOL you’re fighting my buddies LOLOL
they are our allies but we are doing friendly fights with them
using iron cavellier and svalin as a comparison team is slightly tilted in favor of th eSH, since they have SH specific bonus in tacticals or other skills.
you should redo that with an officer set that is universally applicable to MB and SH. Like Uncle/Thorn or Uncle Svallin whatever.
In the end, you proof that the officer pair is doing bette ron SH, not that the SH itself is doing better than MB, i think. Maybe im just nitpicking :)
sure they have buffs that help the sh BUT even without them the officers i used in the video are still better than thorn/steel and so on as the remaining skills are much stronger
If you had Steel, thorn and uncle (and iron cavaliers 3rd skill to level 5) which officers would you use to tank? Steel and uncle or thorn and uncle? Or thorn and steel?
erm thorn and uncle untill you awaken Iron Cavalier.. then use iron and uncle
Great work mate .. just one small remark : if the attacked base had Saber inside then it might change the resusts drastically due to his random skill activation time
yes this is true but not much you can do about RNG things that are involved when attacking some bases, in this test saber was not a thing tho
I have MBT maxed for Martyr, Vanguard... Vanguard MBT is so much better and again... a fully maxed MBT is stronger than most "normal" Super Heavies. Especially If techs neither Techs and Parts are not maxed. I end up tanking bases many times... It does however not work for every base. Some bases just destroy MBTs and others he can tank really well.
yes of course it does depend on the units in the base your attacking 100% but if you are maxing out an MBT you should compair it to a maxed out SH and in that situation the SH will last much much longer
@ I am not contradiction you, I am just stating my observations as a field fighter and SH is totally useless for me.
With maxed tech and officers you can still create a very tanky MBT.
Also Vanguard MBT trains as fast as a light tank, which is a huge +
The tanky MBT can sit in an AG of other MBTS and takes a while before it is being destroyed, which gives the other units time to attack and he can occasionally tank a base. Of course not a Collector 84 1B base :D But up to 475m everything is just food in epic. Fast training, fast movement, decent tanky.
That is why I will always prio the MBT over SH. It is a different use scenario, but a valid one.
What I mean, is that people running SHs are usually Arty people, and they do not have Maxed Tank Research. My MBT with Maxed Research can tank decently enough vs the "average" SH. Therefore my Arty is not as strong as theirs :D (at least not in the next 3 weeks)
na i agree and understand what you saying!
Mvt is more reliable curent in Moscow C4 silver 1 and the field is full off mbs also Roket luncher and mbs for fast base atacks . I am a small acc only whit 7.2 howi and is bad to meet guys whit twice your power
yeah once you reach them highter levels tho the mbs becomes rather weaker than the SH
Need to understand those officers you used have a buff for sh on their own not on mbts so not really a great test just saying
sure but with or without them they are still the best officers for taking a base even on a MBT
Nuh uh
Didn't even have a gun part equipped on the sh smh
this is only for firepower its not going to change the tanking abillity