Ninth Annual South China Sea Conference - Afternoon Session

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  • The CSIS Southeast Asia Program and Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative are pleased to present the Ninth Annual South China Sea Conference on Wednesday, July 24, 2019. This full-day conference will provide opportunities for in-depth discussion and analysis of developments in the South China Sea over the past year and potential paths forward. Panels will address the state of play in the South China Sea, the history and historiography of disputes in the South China Sea, pathways for dispute management, and the global stakes related to the South China Sea.
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  • @larrydavid5260
    @larrydavid5260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This whole talk is distorted by the underlying biases of all the panelists, which are not at all related to the South China Sea. It's very interesting and unusual that Sarah uses "wealth" as reason for being concerned about China... so countries like China (and perhaps others?) should be poor, but Germany should be rich? Even if you don't want China to be richer than you, would you say that it would be an idea for them to be similar to you in wealth? No matter what you think about the South China Sea, you cannot fault a country for trying to achieve wealth...

    • @mikeh7860
      @mikeh7860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      W

    • @mikeh7860
      @mikeh7860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea I’ll we to twwerwrwewtw

    • @mikeh7860
      @mikeh7860 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea wetw

    • @tonysargent3852
      @tonysargent3852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Supporter of communists despite the last 120 years of the devastation its delivered ??? In Russia, Central America, China, Eastern Europe and Asia?? How many murdered by communists???

    • @jt7725
      @jt7725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's "ruler-based order. " G7 is master of this planet, China must be their slave.

  • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
    @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:14:06 min ... 'Rules based order' sounds concerning. There is a difference between rule by law and rule of law.

    • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
      @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Democracy without courts or access to courts and representation, is not a democracy. Courts are part of democracy.
      Even if, as a stand alone system or branch within democracy, some are not perceived to be democratic in process, if courts or access to courts and representation, disappeared, then, there would no longer be three branches of government nor a functioning democracy.
      Democracy without courts or access to courts and representation, is not a democracy. Courts are part of democracy.
      Which branches write the laws that the court's follow and for access to courts and representation?
      Democracy without courts or access to courts and representation, is not a democracy. Courts are part of democracy.
      ........................
      A generalised understanding of democracy is, that for a functioning democracy, ideally five independent pillars:
      Three independent official branches of government; executive, legislature and the judicary; and,
      An unofficial fourth branch otherwise known as the press or media; and,
      The fifth branch of democracy comprising public understanding of the functions of those branches and interactions and input, participation, like voting.
      ........................
      It looks like interference of court processes from other countries, states, external, in a functioning democracy would be interference in government; and,
      With those involved in inteference, possibly seen as partaking in a category distinct and separate to things like, procedural fairness/due process, perverting the course of justice/the administration of the law/denial of natural justice ... obstruction); and,
      With those involved in inteference, possibly seen as partaking in terrorism: and,
      As individuals;
      Individual criminals;
      Not as a state; and
      With no immunity; even if,
      - sponsored by a state and working officially,
      - employed by a state, and or,
      - as a team.
      Otherwise:
      If courts or access to courts and representation, disappeared, then, there would no longer be three branches of government nor a functioning democracy; and,
      A sort of state where it seems, the situation and circumstances would make it possible, for:
      Another country to take over; and or,
      Other countries, states, external, to intervene.
      ?

    • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
      @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .........
      Conversation with The Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy
      Aug 28, 2010
      United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
      Conversation with The Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy, Associate Justice, Supreme Court of the United States.
      33:23 min
      "I would just ask Judges to remember that they're the guardians of freedom, and lawyers to remember that they're the counsellors and the critics and the conscious of the guardians."
      The Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy
      .........

  • @johnmcentegart007
    @johnmcentegart007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess some people have taken the idea of delegating responsibility to a whole new level.

    • @seanlykes196
      @seanlykes196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that what he is saying. I just knew it was some bull crap and not American. Can't figure if it's some Chinese propaganda or some liberal hippie stuff. Either way. Get the rope

  • @jameshennighan8193
    @jameshennighan8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Forum in this afternoon session makes the same fundamental mistake that so many people do at such conferences........namely, they resort to the frequent and excessive use of acronyms when speaking.
    As a consequence, they are speaking to themselves most of the time, and not reaching the wider audience.
    If any wider audience seeks to listen to what is clearly a most important international issue.....arguably the most important issue on the international stage, it is instantly put off by the constant use of acronyms.
    For the sake of clarity and a wider understanding of issues......and to kindle and sustain the interest of the wider audience.......speakers should always state the full title of an organisation, or a treaty etc, on each and every occasion they refer to it, and NOT use acronyms.
    It's not really that hard to do....
    Readily understood acronyms, such as, for example, the EU, (European Union), resorted to in popular usage, are one thing, but more complex acronyms which are basically employed as '......shorthand in speech ....' are something completely different.
    The do not aid understanding.; they complicate it......
    James Hennighan
    Yorkshire, England

    • @shabut
      @shabut 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are having trouble with ACROS this wasn't intended for you.

    • @haywoodfarm
      @haywoodfarm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A profession is a group of people who make up complicated language to describe simple concepts so they can exploit other humans. (original I think, feel free to use)

    • @lifeunderthestarstv
      @lifeunderthestarstv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@haywoodfarm this is legit a really great quote.

    • @leonal522
      @leonal522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      FONOPS = freedom of navigation operations?

  • @MeYou-yz2yz
    @MeYou-yz2yz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stop calling it the scs. It's clearly the English Channel since ancient times.

  • @jimleung5170
    @jimleung5170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This admiral preach international law but USA not part of it.

    • @jimleung5170
      @jimleung5170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Double standard. No country include China will not allow sovereignty be judged by a third party.

  • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
    @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last session .... all is not how it looks? ....

  • @dmpct6518
    @dmpct6518 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lan Nguyen is pretty cute and talented

  • @ganesanvethiah464
    @ganesanvethiah464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The forum overlooked the role played by Kim Jong-un in the fast track illegal settlement building work carried out by PRC in SCS. While he was continuously firing missiles across Japan and creating tension in the Korean peninsular, China was quietly building up SCS . I think Xi Jinping and Kim created nice diversion from the international community.

    • @valentinoggesen6190
      @valentinoggesen6190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The World must have an international LAW and all countries in the EARTH must respect it or else we destroy the EARTH.

    • @valentinoggesen6190
      @valentinoggesen6190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      China system is more like animal, you have nothing to say. The World must work together to get red of it or else or else the China will grab us all.

    • @seanlykes196
      @seanlykes196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep being window warriors can be distracting.

    • @howard49
      @howard49 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats one take. Reflect on history. China knows from bitter experiences you must defend yourself from the West.
      They will do so not from their shoreline but from those islands.

  • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
    @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:04 min ... as the norm ...

  • @albertoalingasa9018
    @albertoalingasa9018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    China need to develop an open policy of cooperation and respect it for peace and stability for its own good on therwise he'll be isolated then internal problems begins in china

    • @Allgood33
      @Allgood33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      US signed the agreement but hasn't ratify the United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea. China did. Safety in maritime is an advantage for China since it ships more goods than any other country. Open policy? China is second in foreign investment in 2021. Why would other countries invest in China if its not "open."

    • @jt7725
      @jt7725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      China should tight their hands to be raped and robbed. That's your goal.

  • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
    @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:17:57 min ... hmmmm ... perhaps, it is not a mayday or pan pan situation, but, it does seem like perhaps, Australia is navigating a course requiring reflection, on the possibility, that Australians are in a state where it will become necessary, if it isn't already, to sos ... ?

    • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
      @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Democracy without courts or access to courts and representation, is not a democracy. Courts are part of democracy.
      Even if, as a stand alone system or branch within democracy, some are not perceived to be democratic in process, if courts or access to courts and representation, disappeared, then, there would no longer be three branches of government nor a functioning democracy.
      Democracy without courts or access to courts and representation, is not a democracy. Courts are part of democracy.
      Which branches write the laws that the court's follow and for access to courts and representation?
      Democracy without courts or access to courts and representation, is not a democracy. Courts are part of democracy.
      ........................
      A generalised understanding of democracy is, that for a functioning democracy, ideally five independent pillars:
      Three independent official branches of government; executive, legislature and the judicary; and,
      An unofficial fourth branch otherwise known as the press or media; and,
      The fifth branch of democracy comprising public understanding of the functions of those branches and interactions and input, participation, like voting.
      ........................
      It looks like interference of court processes from other countries, states, external, in a functioning democracy would be interference in government; and,
      With those involved in inteference, possibly seen as partaking in a category distinct and separate to things like, procedural fairness/due process, perverting the course of justice/the administration of the law/denial of natural justice ... obstruction); and,
      With those involved in inteference, possibly seen as partaking in terrorism: and,
      As individuals;
      Individual criminals;
      Not as a state; and
      With no immunity; even if,
      - sponsored by a state and working officially,
      - employed by a state, and or,
      - as a team.
      Otherwise:
      If courts or access to courts and representation, disappeared, then, there would no longer be three branches of government nor a functioning democracy; and,
      A sort of state where it seems, the situation and circumstances would make it possible, for:
      Another country to take over; and or,
      Other countries, states, external, to intervene.
      ?

    • @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807
      @eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      .........
      Conversation with The Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy
      Aug 28, 2010
      United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
      Conversation with The Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy, Associate Justice, Supreme Court of the United States.
      33:23 min
      "I would just ask Judges to remember that they're the guardians of freedom, and lawyers to remember that they're the counsellors and the critics and the conscious of the guardians."
      The Honorable Anthony M. Kennedy
      .........

  • @SOSM209
    @SOSM209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly our Communication 🌎 is Broken. As it continues WE WILL see its monumental volcanic eruption! The Soldier…

  • @joescorner3061
    @joescorner3061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What problems does China have apart from those created by the West and US? The US and West are worried about their own shadows because of all the atrocities created to so many nonwhite countries. Since when have those countries whereby the US has attacked prospered today? In the name of freedom and democracy, US has created more chaos in all those countries that they have attacked. The US has gone to so many wars around the world and none has prospered until today. Which country sold opium to the Chinese people to cripple the country? Which country looted India and South East Asia countries? History does not lie when these colonialist and capitalist countries invade others in the name of freedom and democracy. What interests does the West have in the East apart from protecting their own interest? All in, all the invasions are without any concrete proof but just provided a reason to cripple developing countries in order that the Anglo-Saxons can remain as a hegemon. One fine example is Iraq claiming that they have WMD's, but until today nothing is found and what US has done is swept under the carpet. The West and US always feels that they can do no wrong but all coloured countries should never be superior in any way. That is what white supremacists is all about similar to the KKK. Hahaha.

  • @mickparkinson207
    @mickparkinson207 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The USA used to have military generals and admirals that actually possessed intelligence.
    It’s no surprise after listening to American Military leaders why the USA can’t win a war.. and only ever attacks opponents than can NEVER hurt them.
    As Col Douglas McGregor stated “we could NEVER beat the Russians in a land war in Europe we haven’t faced an opponent whom could hurt us since WW2 we have effectively been Clubbing Seals since 1945”
    The Russians despite being less than half the yanks population would obliterate the entire US military in any war in Europe even if it’s entire resources were magically to appear in France..missiles, EW, laser anti air and anti surveillance, hypersonic missiles(able to eliminate ENTIRE USN fleet at their will+ nuclear first strike ability far more likely to succeed in eliminating the USA ICBM, Bomber fleet and non deployed Nuke boats than the USA ever had anywhere near this advantage they currently possess)
    American just can’t seem to grasp when comparing economies the measure used of GDP is shockingly misleading when adjusted for output non dollar based the Russians are a slightly stronger economy in manufacturing output as they don’t pay $106,000,000 for a single hypersonic that has failed more than it succeeds but around $140,000, Russia has always had an advantage even during Soviet times with cost of production and having VASTLY superior education systems and it doesn’t hurt having a higher average IQ than Americans.. Look at origins of most technical innovations and you’ll find significant contributions that possibly could exceed even the UK(not counted, and most of these inventors migrated around the world, think Slav folks like Nikolai Tesla vs Thomas Edison .. one brilliant inventor engineer and one brilliant thief ..

    • @TheTobbeP
      @TheTobbeP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @TheNordics
    @TheNordics 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the end there when Sarah Kirchberger said "Share intelligence with the allies, and invite for rimpac" And this was a message to the president if you had a chance to give an advice to the president under 30sec. Could this have been the start of what was helping Ukraine, and perhaps future events?
    Since when typical villains say they shall take over the world, that part with trust in nato etc, and the close partners is a must. Hopefully India understands what their neighbour is doing, that what they do lead to a very very high chance of a big conflict, it would be so destabilazing if they would do what they plan and they are shown to be very hostile master, even to their own people, like forcing them inside even if they starve.
    So I hope that those countries that are a little negative to the US because of past events or whatever it is they mislead themselfs with, must reremember the good things, like russia surviving the ww2 because of US help (and yes it would be a total dissaster if Russia totally was destroyed even if they do what they do today, hopefully they end the war in Ukraine and help the world against the hostile attempt of take over. Same with the lovely Brits who US backed, also the rest of EU in total, and many other things past ww2, people need to reremember why US is the best choice to allie up with. Russia was a good choice back then, until they showed to scam the US of all the money they borrowed and equipment during ww2. Which was a lend leas deal, like the one Ukraine got now during 2022.
    The world has a leader who cares, and many allies that cares. To redefine that, to have a hostile regime to take that over, people need to REALLY understand how bad everything would become. So support what you like, otherwise it goes away.

  • @beyondthemasquerade2626
    @beyondthemasquerade2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The speaker has been compromised by the Chinese. It doesn't matter if he's served forty years in the navy. A traitor is a traitor and betrays for many reasons. When the enemy tells you he's going to hurt you and you choose to delude yourself and ignore him, you deserve your fate. When a guy comes along and tells you that you've more in common with that enemy than differences, you should know that he doesn't have your best interest in mind and at heart. The speaker is trying to distract US resources, time and energy elsewhere other than China in this so-called grand strategy of his. China is correct to receive the majority of these freedom of navigation operations because China is the one threatening the freedom of navigation. This is no grand strategy but treason. The US does not have boundless resources and assets. What foolishness to suggest that the US post the movements of its naval assets and operations for the whole world to see! It is the intent of the speaker it seems to give China the time and space it requires to build up its arsenal. Should Uncle Sam be stupid enough to provide to China a schedule as suggested by the treasonist speaker, China will also be given a predictable time frame upon which to maneuver its military assets into play and enact its strategic aims. Pray tell, speaker, which other country in the world has the capability, intent and economic means to disrupt and challenge the freedom of navigation? Only China. Do not let yourselves be misled or deceived otherwise.

  • @esindirik4447
    @esindirik4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a bunch of crooks