@@avae5343 Never would have happened. Never. You really don't seem to know much about Mulder's character. Chris Carter wouldn't have agreed to that, let alone planned it. David Duchovny wouldn't have agreed to it either.
@@avae5343 In any context - it would never happen. It would never make sense. It wouldn't be consistent with the character. You can't just change the narrative for your own reasons if it contradicts everything that has been previously known about the main character. You say he would want to work on the vaccine, but he wouldn't do it if it involved working for the other side. If you know anything about Mulder you know he does not compromise his principles. You could ignore this, but it would be an excreble example of sacrificing the integrity of the character and the show in order to offer an extremely implausible plot driven narrative - a cheap and manipulative approach to drama.
This scene where CSM tempts Mulder to turn to the dark side gives me strong Vader-Luke on Cloud City vibes here. Instead of "Join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son," CSM says, "Quit the FBI. Come work for me." I wish that CSM had also revealed in this moment that he is Mulder's real father, too -- just to complete the allusion to Empire. "Did your informant tell you what happened to your father?" "He told me enough. He told me that you killed him." "No. Fox, *I* am your father."
Difference was Vader genuinely loved his son and was willing to kill his master to protect Luke. Whereas the CSM didn't really care about Mulder unless it served his interest. He didn't see Mulder as a son, but a tool.
Despite the fact that these two shared the screen many times before this scene - this time they feel so naturally mirrored. By his point in the narrative it’s not lost on the audience that The Smoking Man is Fox’s father. But it is here that you actually buy them as father and son. Mulder may not be a murderer or sociopath, but his drive, determination, and resourcefulness connect the two together. The “join me on the dark side” comparisons are very apt. Davis and Duchovny play this scene so perfectly. It’s almost as if Fox has accepted that this sinister man in a dark suit is his father - he’s not pulling a gun on him or pushing him up against a wall. The two are simply talking. Really well acted and directed.
The assassin is played by Willy Ross. The agent who defuses the bomb in The X-Files movie is played by Terry O'Quinn. He actually had a few roles in the show but this wasn't one of them.
@@artembaranov CSM being Samantha's father would've made more sense, 'cos it would've explained William Mulder's decision to turn her over to the colonists instead of Fox. Besides, the whole villain-is-the-heroes-father thing is a lame, tired old whore of a trope and should've been retired after Luke and Darth.
@@tcaudiobooks737 that’s exactly what it is. CSM is Samantha‘s biological father which is why Bill chose her. And your right the whole villain is the hero’s father is so cliché. But that’s not the reason why I don’t accept it. I don’t accept it because it was spawned by fan theory that the writers started to Incorporate it into the show. Which for me is very lazy. This is/was a show that anything can change. Heck we watched 9 whole seasons with aliens running around with this conspiracy, and then in the new rebooted seasons 10 and 11 they revamp the whole thing. So maybe one day CC will say Bill is Fox’s dad.
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imagine Alt timeline and Mulder joins the syndicate.
@@avae5343 Never would have happened. Never. You really don't seem to know much about Mulder's character. Chris Carter wouldn't have agreed to that, let alone planned it. David Duchovny wouldn't have agreed to it either.
@@avae5343 In any context - it would never happen. It would never make sense. It wouldn't be consistent with the character. You can't just change the narrative for your own reasons if it contradicts everything that has been previously known about the main character. You say he would want to work on the vaccine, but he wouldn't do it if it involved working for the other side. If you know anything about Mulder you know he does not compromise his principles. You could ignore this, but it would be an excreble example of sacrificing the integrity of the character and the show in order to offer an extremely implausible plot driven narrative - a cheap and manipulative approach to drama.
Is possible
that sounds awesome, Mulder is one with the alien secrets, no more wondering.
@@mcjs8640Mulder is an INFJ we never sell out….and yes we are spooky
"Luke, come to the Dark Side of the Force."
Lol true same way
This scene where CSM tempts Mulder to turn to the dark side gives me strong Vader-Luke on Cloud City vibes here. Instead of "Join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son," CSM says, "Quit the FBI. Come work for me."
I wish that CSM had also revealed in this moment that he is Mulder's real father, too -- just to complete the allusion to Empire.
"Did your informant tell you what happened to your father?"
"He told me enough. He told me that you killed him."
"No. Fox, *I* am your father."
Father like son only Mulder is the light
I think CSM man has a respect for his son Mulder even though he does not say it out loud.
I truly miss this show, and I wish it would come back on any network, please 🙏
me too
This guy is such a chad
Not all heroes wear capes
Cancer Man is the Darth Vader of The X - Files!!! 🚬 ☠
"Join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son."
I agree
This a very good Vader trying to seduce Luke analogy.
Difference was Vader genuinely loved his son and was willing to kill his master to protect Luke. Whereas the CSM didn't really care about Mulder unless it served his interest. He didn't see Mulder as a son, but a tool.
I wish Mulder knew the simple fact.
The Emperor protects!
:D
Despite the fact that these two shared the screen many times before this scene - this time they feel so naturally mirrored. By his point in the narrative it’s not lost on the audience that The Smoking Man is Fox’s father. But it is here that you actually buy them as father and son. Mulder may not be a murderer or sociopath, but his drive, determination, and resourcefulness connect the two together. The “join me on the dark side” comparisons are very apt. Davis and Duchovny play this scene so perfectly. It’s almost as if Fox has accepted that this sinister man in a dark suit is his father - he’s not pulling a gun on him or pushing him up against a wall. The two are simply talking. Really well acted and directed.
He's the reason i started smoking 😂😂 kinda stupid but i started watching this in India and i wanted to be this guy so bad 😂
He’s the Father many of us wanted but never got 😅
@@HeavilyCensoredKitty My father was a railway engineer and people hid when he came out of his house .....So you're on your on that ...
@@Samsonlybegottenson88 you're missing out I mean how else you gonna get to see Aliens and Human Alien Hybrids?
THEY only know of one way to "correct" any annoying situations, and it's clearly depicted here...
The Assassin isn't that the bomb defuser from X-Files The Movie?
The assassin is played by Willy Ross. The agent who defuses the bomb in The X-Files movie is played by Terry O'Quinn. He actually had a few roles in the show but this wasn't one of them.
My thoughts exactly on first watch.
@@seanclarke-author9894 and he play's Peter Watts in Chris Carter's other show Millennium
Yes the great terry o quinn
Best tv series ever!
Gastown Vancouver ❤
Just like star wars
I don't know many sniper rifles that have a revolving wheel?
Must be homemade....
No shell casings
Attempting to silence a revolver?
-Boulder dash
Unless he does have this technology? In that case I would work for him!@@beezelsub
Does the smoker man die?
On the final chapter of the S05-02
i dont care, whose father you are - did Mulder know, that CSM was his father in that moment?
Muldr is condor too
William Mulder is Fox Mulder’s biological father.
Actually CSM is his biological father.
@@artembaranov CSM being Samantha's father would've made more sense, 'cos it would've explained William Mulder's decision to turn her over to the colonists instead of Fox. Besides, the whole villain-is-the-heroes-father thing is a lame, tired old whore of a trope and should've been retired after Luke and Darth.
@@artembaranov I refuse to believe that. And in the show where anything can change especially by the fans. I hold this truth.
@@tcaudiobooks737 that’s exactly what it is. CSM is Samantha‘s biological father which is why Bill chose her. And your right the whole villain is the hero’s father is so cliché. But that’s not the reason why I don’t accept it. I don’t accept it because it was spawned by fan theory that the writers started to Incorporate it into the show. Which for me is very lazy. This is/was a show that anything can change. Heck we watched 9 whole seasons with aliens running around with this conspiracy, and then in the new rebooted seasons 10 and 11 they revamp the whole thing.
So maybe one day CC will say Bill is Fox’s dad.
@@artembaranov CSM is everyone's father. Fox. Samantha. Jeffrey. William. Probably Emily, Gibson Praise, and Flukeman, too.