I'm 75 and love seeing people bring old iron back to life . Old iron is what I cut my teeth on. Most of these young operators don't have a clue, they have to have a screen in front of them to think for them.
It's the same with trucks. I spent thousands of hours flogging two stick trucks over the mountains in the 1970s and on. Very few people these days have even seen one except at antique truck shows. Jeff
I had my hands full of Hall-Scotts when I maintained a fleet of busses in Spokane. There were 504 and 590 versions laid horizontally under the floor. We had 220 Cummins and 6/71 Jimmys in the same layouts.
It's nice to see people about my age who can still get around and do stuff like this. Y'all just be careful. I can't climb around on anything anymore, but I know there isn't much that is more satisfying than getting something like this running after not running for a long time. Thanks for the video and the inspiration. The old Cat sounded pretty good.
Thanks for enjoying the video. There will be more coming soon on my channel: Just paste "youtube.com/@oldiron" into the address box on your browser. Don't put it in the search box or you will get miles of useless hits. I will be doing stuff like this whenever I find similar machines. Thanks! Jeff
Cannot drive it as-is. The clutch linkage is totally out of adjustment, and one of the steering clutch spool valves is seized-up solid. Ran out of time to attempt any additional fixing. Jeff
Thank You, Cynthia. I appreciate the interest. Am working on a version with subtitles explaining all the sequence of operations. Let's have a phone visit one of these days. RE the election: should i just jump off a bridge somewhere? Jeff
I find old equipment all over the place, and it is almost a "calling" to see if I can get them to run. My first such project was a rusty 1925 Kenworth behind a neighbor's garage. It was in 1959 and I was 13 at the time. It had no electrical system, only a magneto and a big hand crank. After a few weekends of tinkering with it, I got it to run anytime I wanted. It has since been restored and is in the I-80 Truck Museum.
The pony motor really sounded sweet. The dozer motor sounded sweeter. I remember watching this about 5 years ago. Also other Vids of yours. Spot on Mechanic talk. Music to my ears and as colorful as hell. LOL
Thanks for checking in. We had great fun with the D8 this trip too. I will be posting a video about what happens when some overconfident individual mis-times the magneto. After the crank bounced off my right knee, I could barely walk for a couple days. Jeff
Thanks for enjoying the video. Hope you see others you might like on my TH-cam channel. More to come as soon as I find some more fine old machines that have been left to perish in the forest. Jeff
Good job getting that ole girl going! She sounds pretty good! Just took her a little while to get warmed up by the pony motor’s exhaust! I was wondering about fuel delivery, still don’t see much black smoke like it’s not burning the fuel! I’m glad she’s slowly coming back to life! She’ll start putting a little smoke out with every cylinder starting to work itself out!
I'm seventy five on 29th of October so know these old cats to have very few problems like newer stuff. Setting killed more than those that got started once a year. You should be able to free up the governor and make it purr again. I had to hand crank those starting motors in the front between radiator and blade.... many cuss words before getting started at thirty below
Thanks for the input. I am 78 and first operated a 4 lung D7 in 1968, I spent most of my adult life as a journeyman heavy equipment mechanic. I love these simple old machines. They do often need a good stream of cuss words to motivate them to cooperate. One of my other videos shows me cranking a D8 from the front, like you describe. Jeff
The Fuel Rack is hung. The cover on the side of the Injection Pump needs to be removed, then you can see if the rack moves internally when you operate the throttle.
I was able to run the thing at any speed by shoving a stick through the inspection hole on the governor and pushing on the linkage to move the rack. I screwed-up the video on that procedure. Sorry. Jeff
@@Oldiron Amazing that it would start and run with stuck rack. Don't try to rotate the stuck pumps, work them up and down with a screwdriver. They (it) will free up easily and you will have a good running engine.
The rack is not stuck. I can run the engine at any speed by moving the linkage inside the governor that controls the rack. The governor is the problem. Thanks for your interest and comments. Jeff
The engine is fine, but the governor is screwed-up. Unfortunately there is a huge freeze crack in the oil clutch housing and the spool valve for the right steering clutch is thoroughly stuck. With enough time I could have repaired both. Let me know if you know anyone who would provide a good home. The price is right. Jeff
Thanks for checking in. More similar on my channel. Hope you find it interesting enough to subscribe. Next video coming up will be the first road tests of the 1947 Federal truck in the next week or two. Jeff
Glad you liked it. I posted the much better version, with subtitles and no wasted time yesterday. Hope you can check it out at: "youtube.com/@oldiron". Jeff
Love ya style Jeff and ya expertise , thankyou Sir.................thats a fine old bulldozer which you have bought back to life.......subscribed and thumbs up
Thanks for watching. We had a lot of fun with the pre WW II D8 too. The videos of "Fluffy the Iron Kitty" tell the story. Thanks also for subscribing. I will post more coming up. Jeff
Yeah it could be getting an air blockage at the injectors! Just keep bleeding the injector lines! Now let it run and work out the air in the system! I’d let it run for a while if it has coolant in the system! She’s trying to clear out, it’s starting to bang!
THANK YOU MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR REMINDING POPS OF THE OIL CONNECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for checking in. That starting engine was a complete bitch to get it going. When we started working on it, the magneto was firing way before top dead center. After a lot of head scratching, we found the mag drive gear was two teeth off from being in time with the cam gear. The carburetor float valve was faulty and kept filling the cylinders with raw gasoline. The fuel tank had so much rust in it, I had to solder a 1 inch stand pipe into the fitting above the filter. Lots of hassles, but it finally paid off. Glad you liked it. Jeff
After the carb floods a pony engine, I always change the oil because of fuel dillution. Lots of starting engines have been blown up prematurely from that.
Thanks for checking in. You are correct, and that is exactly what I did. The second video shows the entire operation with subtitles and with a lot of wasted time edited out. I messed-up on the first one and would take it down except for the fact it is still getting many views. You can find the better one at "TH-cam.com/@oldiron". Thanks, Jeff
The first big Cat I was told to operate was a WW II veteran 4 lung D7. It had been left in Okinawa after the war and an Okinawan contractor owned it. Jeff
She sounds Good. I think you need to adjust the governor a little on the pony. It's running too fast, especially no load. Hate to see ya hurt it. On the diesel did you check if the governor is moving the rack? Those Gov. will stick while sitting. Thanks for Sharing TGP
Thanks! It was great fun. The second video is much better. It has descriptive subtitles and all the wasted time has been edited out. Go to my channel, "youtube.com/@oldiron" and check it out. Jeff
The rack is free and will move by pushing on the linkage in the governor with a stick. I was able to run it at any speed that way, but I screwed-up the video and it was useless. Jeff
I videoed when I removed the inspection cover from the governor and was able to move the rack with a stick pushing on the internal linkage. I could run it at any speed I wanted. Unfortunately my incompetent videographer ( me) had the Go Pro set on time lapse somehow and it ruined the scene. Jeff
Thanks for checking in. Waiting for exactly what, I might ask. Unfortunately the video got somewhat garbled between my editing and the TH-cam posting. All my subtitles were lost that explained all the procedures. I will be making a new one featuring both the D6 and the D8 on how to get them primed and started soon.
Thanks! I was able to manipulate the rack by shoving a stick through the inspection hole on the governor and pushing on the internal linkage. I could select and hold any speed I wanted. Something is gunny-bag in that governor, not the pump. Jeff
It's definitely in the governor mechanism. The engine will run any speed by pushing on the linkage inside it. We put new fuel in a totally empty tank and a new fuel line. Jeff
Thanks for checking in. Sorry to disappoint you RE my version of English. Here is some background: th-cam.com/video/7vmfJe2mFOo/w-d-xo.html Or, just go to my TH-cam site and watch "Lesson 1". Thanks again for commenting. Jeff
Like your channel, but it may not be wise to test the Lord with comments like..if the Lord is with me. He is always with those who truely believe. We know what you meant.
Thanks for checking in. I figured my subscribers would enjoy watching our final starting sequences. I have been on borrowed time since Vietnam service in the Marine Corps infantry. I give the Lord credit ever after.
Amazing to see the old cats still start after 20 plus years of sitting
Love the way the "real man" talks. I have had several of those old Pup start Cats, they were built to last forever, literally !
It is always great fun to get some noise and smoke out of a machine someone else gave up on many years ago. Jeff
I'm 75 and love seeing people bring old iron back to life . Old iron is what I cut my teeth on. Most of these young operators don't have a clue, they have to have a screen in front of them to think for them.
It's the same with trucks. I spent thousands of hours flogging two stick trucks over the mountains in the 1970s and on. Very few people these days have even seen one except at antique truck shows. Jeff
@@Oldironme too. I cut my teeth on a 2U D8. Slide bar shift and hauled it with a gas hallscot engine in a Corbit truck with a 5x4 transmission.
I had my hands full of Hall-Scotts when I maintained a fleet of busses in Spokane. There were 504 and 590 versions laid horizontally under the floor. We had 220 Cummins and 6/71 Jimmys in the same layouts.
Love to see folks tinkering with old engines and love it even more when they come back to life.
With me it is almost a "calling". I just love horsepower, noise, and diesel smoke. Jeff
It's nice to see people about my age who can still get around and do stuff like this. Y'all just be careful. I can't climb around on anything anymore, but I know there isn't much that is more satisfying than getting something like this running after not running for a long time. Thanks for the video and the inspiration. The old Cat sounded pretty good.
Thanks for enjoying the video. There will be more coming soon on my channel: Just paste "youtube.com/@oldiron" into the address box on your browser. Don't put it in the search box or you will get miles of useless hits. I will be doing stuff like this whenever I find similar machines. Thanks! Jeff
What If you drove it and see if it can maintain idle?- maybe add sea foam to gas, even the oil too
Cannot drive it as-is. The clutch linkage is totally out of adjustment, and one of the steering clutch spool valves is seized-up solid. Ran out of time to attempt any additional fixing. Jeff
This is amazing! My husband loves this. Jeff you have skills that are hard to find these days!
Thank You, Cynthia. I appreciate the interest. Am working on a version with subtitles explaining all the sequence of operations. Let's have a phone visit one of these days. RE the election: should i just jump off a bridge somewhere? Jeff
@@Oldiron I will call you on Monday.
Great to see you got the old girl started.
I find old equipment all over the place, and it is almost a "calling" to see if I can get them to run. My first such project was a rusty 1925 Kenworth behind a neighbor's garage. It was in 1959 and I was 13 at the time. It had no electrical system, only a magneto and a big hand crank. After a few weekends of tinkering with it, I got it to run anytime I wanted. It has since been restored and is in the I-80 Truck Museum.
The pony motor really sounded sweet. The dozer motor sounded sweeter.
I remember watching this about 5 years ago. Also other Vids of yours. Spot on Mechanic talk. Music to my ears and as colorful as hell. LOL
Thanks for checking in. We had great fun with the D8 this trip too. I will be posting a video about what happens when some overconfident individual mis-times the magneto. After the crank bounced off my right knee, I could barely walk for a couple days. Jeff
Excellent Job Sir and also to your other Mechanic , Cat Diesel Power ! American Made ! i am a New Subscriber
Thanks for enjoying the video. Hope you see others you might like on my TH-cam channel. More to come as soon as I find some more fine old machines that have been left to perish in the forest. Jeff
Good job getting that ole girl going! She sounds pretty good! Just took her a little while to get warmed up by the pony motor’s exhaust! I was wondering about fuel delivery, still don’t see much black smoke like it’s not burning the fuel! I’m glad she’s slowly coming back to life! She’ll start putting a little smoke out with every cylinder starting to work itself out!
You are right. It took an hour or so to blow the rust off the fuel nozzles and purge the last of the bubbles out of the system.
GOOD FOR YOU , SIR!
Thanks for checking in. More videos on the way, so please watch the "youtube.com/@oldiron" youtube channel. Jeff
Thanks for sharing and good luck!👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You are very welcome. Thanks for enjoying the show. Jeff
I'm seventy five on 29th of October so know these old cats to have very few problems like newer stuff. Setting killed more than those that got started once a year. You should be able to free up the governor and make it purr again. I had to hand crank those starting motors in the front between radiator and blade.... many cuss words before getting started at thirty below
Thanks for the input. I am 78 and first operated a 4 lung D7 in 1968, I spent most of my adult life as a journeyman heavy equipment mechanic. I love these simple old machines. They do often need a good stream of cuss words to motivate them to cooperate. One of my other videos shows me cranking a D8 from the front, like you describe. Jeff
I like this guy he ain't taking no crap
Thanks for checking in! Glad you enjoyed the video. Plenty more on my channel: "TH-cam.com/@oldiron". Jeff
The Fuel Rack is hung. The cover on the side of the Injection Pump needs to be removed, then you can see if the rack moves internally when you operate the throttle.
Yup! Fuel rack is sticking!
I was able to run the thing at any speed by shoving a stick through the inspection hole on the governor and pushing on the linkage to move the rack. I screwed-up the video on that procedure. Sorry. Jeff
@@Oldiron Amazing that it would start and run with stuck rack. Don't try to rotate the stuck pumps, work them up and down with a screwdriver. They (it) will free up easily and you will have a good running engine.
The rack is not stuck. I can run the engine at any speed by moving the linkage inside the governor that controls the rack. The governor is the problem. Thanks for your interest and comments. Jeff
Más de moroso qué tortuga a desperdiciado el otro motor
Those engines will run forever. Mine has 24,000 hours on it and still works well.
The engine is fine, but the governor is screwed-up. Unfortunately there is a huge freeze crack in the oil clutch housing and the spool valve for the right steering clutch is thoroughly stuck. With enough time I could have repaired both. Let me know if you know anyone who would provide a good home. The price is right. Jeff
Awesome video .... Thank you Sir .
Thanks for checking in. More similar on my channel. Hope you find it interesting enough to subscribe. Next video coming up will be the first road tests of the 1947 Federal truck in the next week or two. Jeff
I love those old Cats
Thanks for watching. I have been enthused about direct drive cable blade Cats all my life. Jeff
Sweet, nice job!!
Glad you liked it. I posted the much better version, with subtitles and no wasted time yesterday. Hope you can check it out at: "youtube.com/@oldiron". Jeff
Well done good luck
Thanks for your support! Jeff
Love ya style Jeff and ya expertise , thankyou Sir.................thats a fine old bulldozer which you have bought back to life.......subscribed and thumbs up
Thanks for watching. We had a lot of fun with the pre WW II D8 too. The videos of "Fluffy the Iron Kitty" tell the story. Thanks also for subscribing. I will post more coming up. Jeff
That is soooo cool.
Glad you enjoyed our adventures with Princess. Would love to have you as a subscriber to my channel. Thanks! Jeff
The old gal sounds good
Yeah it could be getting an air blockage at the injectors! Just keep bleeding the injector lines! Now let it run and work out the air in the system! I’d let it run for a while if it has coolant in the system! She’s trying to clear out, it’s starting to bang!
By the time we shut it down, the exhaust was cleaning up nicely, and the firing evened out. Jeff
Listen to that baby purring
THANK YOU MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR REMINDING POPS OF THE OIL CONNECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds as if someone had a bad experience? Jeff
White smoke some! Good job young man. Could probibaly still do a days work.
It was fun to get it to run, but it has clutch, governor, and steering clutch issues. I did not have time to finesse it any farther. Jeff
Best Pony Engine start ever! 😂
Thanks for checking in. That starting engine was a complete bitch to get it going. When we started working on it, the magneto was firing way before top dead center. After a lot of head scratching, we found the mag drive gear was two teeth off from being in time with the cam gear. The carburetor float valve was faulty and kept filling the cylinders with raw gasoline. The fuel tank had so much rust in it, I had to solder a 1 inch stand pipe into the fitting above the filter. Lots of hassles, but it finally paid off. Glad you liked it. Jeff
After the carb floods a pony engine, I always change the oil because of fuel dillution. Lots of starting engines have been blown up prematurely from that.
That is a very astute idea. Thinning the oil again and again from a woozy carburetor would definitely invite destruction. Jeff
@@Oldironmy uncle can tell you what happens 😲😭🤣
The injector lines should be disconnected at the fuel nozzles and bled, not at the pump. Your problem is the injectors ( fuel nozzles).
Thanks for checking in. You are correct, and that is exactly what I did. The second video shows the entire operation with subtitles and with a lot of wasted time edited out. I messed-up on the first one and would take it down except for the fact it is still getting many views. You can find the better one at "TH-cam.com/@oldiron". Thanks, Jeff
You got that whizzer puring like a kitten
I have a d 7 of about the same vintage did a lot to it to get it to run those D6 9u sound awsum
The first big Cat I was told to operate was a WW II veteran 4 lung D7. It had been left in Okinawa after the war and an Okinawan contractor owned it. Jeff
She sounds Good.
I think you need to adjust the governor a little on the pony.
It's running too fast, especially no load.
Hate to see ya hurt it.
On the diesel did you check if the governor is moving the rack?
Those Gov. will stick while sitting.
Thanks for Sharing
TGP
You are indeed correct. The governor belt s loose and ready to fly off. It is probably slipping at the sheave. Jeff
Nice job
Thanks! It was great fun. The second video is much better. It has descriptive subtitles and all the wasted time has been edited out. Go to my channel, "youtube.com/@oldiron" and check it out. Jeff
Pull the Cover off the side of the injection pump losen the fuel rack it is probably stuck spray it withdextron and diesel fuel 50 50 mix
The rack is free and will move by pushing on the linkage in the governor with a stick. I was able to run it at any speed that way, but I screwed-up the video and it was useless. Jeff
when I had to bleed the injectors on a Cat I had to break all of them loose then start tightening them one at a time ti get it ti fire off.
Thanks for the tip. It makes perfect sense. It would open all the lines at once and would probably speed things up a bit. Thanks, Jeff
Drain refill your filters, check fuel pump pressure
Maybe the pistons behind the injection pump plate may be sticking
I videoed when I removed the inspection cover from the governor and was able to move the rack with a stick pushing on the internal linkage. I could run it at any speed I wanted. Unfortunately my incompetent videographer ( me) had the Go Pro set on time lapse somehow and it ruined the scene. Jeff
Well we're waiting?
Thanks for checking in. Waiting for exactly what, I might ask. Unfortunately the video got somewhat garbled between my editing and the TH-cam posting. All my subtitles were lost that explained all the procedures. I will be making a new one featuring both the D6 and the D8 on how to get them primed and started soon.
Check the fuel rack!
Thanks! I was able to manipulate the rack by shoving a stick through the inspection hole on the governor and pushing on the internal linkage. I could select and hold any speed I wanted. Something is gunny-bag in that governor, not the pump. Jeff
It could be bad fuel or bad fuel filter.
It's definitely in the governor mechanism. The engine will run any speed by pushing on the linkage inside it. We put new fuel in a totally empty tank and a new fuel line. Jeff
grandmasaid he's in the feild and working so the f. bomb is cool
Qué desastre ése viejo, porqué no purgó antes todo el sistema y. No hizo sufrir tanto el motor de arranque?
The pony motor is gas, now I understand
That's good to see an old guy get up there and let it happen
It is great fun! Thanks, Jeff
No smoke no fuel
Call area diesel!
You wouldve had a GOOD Video here if it hadnt had all that foul language in it that you were using
Thanks for checking in. Sorry to disappoint you RE my version of English. Here is some background:
th-cam.com/video/7vmfJe2mFOo/w-d-xo.html Or, just go to my TH-cam site and watch "Lesson 1". Thanks again for commenting. Jeff
Like bleading brakes blead the fartherest one...!!? first
That would make sense on a common rail system, but the Cat system pumps to each injector separately. Jeff
Like your channel, but it may not be wise to test the Lord with comments like..if the Lord is with me. He is always with those who truely believe.
We know what you meant.
Thanks for checking in. I figured my subscribers would enjoy watching our final starting sequences. I have been on borrowed time since Vietnam service in the Marine Corps infantry. I give the Lord credit ever after.
To much cussing know it