FIRST TIME WATCHING *Star Trek Into Darkness*
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Synopsis:James Kirk, a brash young man, and Spock, an alien with human and Vulcan blood, join the crew of the USS Enterprise to combat Nero, a member of the Romulan race who wants to destroy multiple planets.
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Seb: talks heavily over literally every explanation and plot point
Also Seb: "I'm so confused"
LOL....I agree.
and then he goes "it's so unnecessarily complex" when it's so easy to follow if you actually just watch.
I have to agree! Loved his commentary in both films, but there were times (in both films) where I felt like screaming when he came out with something totally wrong or said it's confusing when he literally just talked over the info he needed to make it really simple/easy to follow! Can I suggest subtitles so you don't miss anything?
@@emmaconnolly5738 I think a gag would be even more useful.
Agreed. Pause the movie and then share your thoughts.
For context, Khan is literally the perfect soldier, a super soldier who’s genetically engineered to be stronger, more durable and faster, combine that with a mind that is ruthless and savage, but wired for warfare and strategy, you have the perfect soldier which is why Marcus used him to design all of starfleets section 31 weapons and warships for all out war
Captain America+Iron Man+Ghengis Khan
Unfortunately it makes little sense because he'd be 300 years out of date when it comes to technology.
He could probably learn faster and think faster. Just give him 1 year to learn the new sciences and maths and he could come up with new ideas.@@vanyadolly
The brilliance of the Kirk / Spock relationship is
that they are opposites that balance each other out. While both are highly intelligent, kirk is too reckless, and Spock is too logical and reserved.
However, they come to realize they work
incredibly well as a team because each one
reigns in the extremes of the other, creating a much smarter middle path.
Please use the proper vocabulary. Rein someone in, not reign.
@@ZakhadWOWI just read your last comments. Capital letters are used after a full stop and your spacing is double.
Although old series Kirk was never actually that reckless, and could actually be fairly hesitant.
But was always good, at looking bold, and certain, once he had chosen, to act.
Spock, not Spoch :)
@@ZakhadWOW”Please use the proper vocabulary” 🤓🤓🤓 Bro then makes a typo himself.
Seb something feels off about the audio. Some parts of the film you should mute so we can hear you
Yeh the audio is slightly loud at points when your talking but still awesome
ya, I noticed it too - there are times when it is too hard to hear you Seb - but please don't overreact by going too far in the other direction -I'm sure it is hard to get a good balance.
Yup , most of the reaction I couldn't hear Seb
I’m so glad you said something I thought I was losing my mind
I was eating chips when watching this and I suddenly started to think I had become a really loud chewer! ..🤔 lol
Spock & Kirk bonding moments are a requirement, Seb 😆 Plus, the emotions of Kirk’s “death” motivated Spock & broke his emotional wall, so definitely had a purpose.
Thanks for doing this series. I agree the first movie is the probably the best, but I really enjoy seeing the team dynamic in the sequels.
If you want more backstory on Khan, watch the original series episode "Space Seed" followed by movies 2-3 ("Wrath of Khan" and "Search for Spock"). Technically the story also continues into the 4th movie, but it's more loosely connected as it's a new plot. Generally Wrath of Khan is regarded as the best of all the Star Trek movies.
This needs more upvotes. Also, while the 4th may be only loosely connected, it's also a freakin' great film.
@@sandwiched Hell yeah it is
You really need to watch the old Star Trek movies, then you will know why old Spock told new Spock what he did.
This was a damn good film and one Benedict's first major gigs in hollywood. Did you also notice one of the council leaders at the start to be Mr. Peter Weller, aka Robocop himself.
That sure is Officer Murphy aka Robocop. I knew that guy looked familiar.
A Cumberbitch over here since the first Sherlock episode! 🤚
the first episode was epic!the scene in the hospital where Sherlock tells all about Watsons limp and use of brothers phone was giving me goosebumps!
audio clashing for anyone else? movie volume is too loud over the commentary
I think what’s happening is he didn’t mute the parts that he talks over - which he usually does
Yes, sometimes I can barely hear him.
@@Aegi97 Yeah, reckon his editing app had the mute audio toggled to 'off' - probably can't fix without a re-post
oh my God, i never caught that as a kid but in the beginning when Spok is in the volcano and they're talking about saving his life he says "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" those were his last words in the other timeline
There was an actual reason for that 10 minute death scene for Kirk, but you have to watch the original movies to understand it. Some of the episodes of the original series are a bit problematic and even borderline campy, but the human stories, the relationships between members of the crew, are what make the series so great.
@@TahiriVeila13ABY When I said that it was "a bit problematic" I was thinking of things like the way the women were portrayed in the series. As not much more than decorations, with very short skirts. The more recent Star Trek series show women in a much more positive light. I just didn't want someone to go from the much more modern movie to the original series and expect something as modern as the movie.
Still didn't feel as impactful imo...
@@ChrissonatorOFL Yeah, this death scene just wasn't as impactful. Especially since Kirk was revived so quickly.
@@psychokitty71 You think someone would watch a TV series *from before the moon landings* and expect modernity?
@@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Assuming that person even checked the dates of when the original series aired, probably not. However, I was mainly talking about the difference in the types of stories told. I didn't want him to go from seeing such an action-packed drama to something that's campy without being aware that the original series is very good, but also very different from the movie.
Zachary Quinto screaming Khan is one of the most peak moment in Cinema. Like it's just RAW emotion.
I absolutely LOVE the opening mission of this film. There have been multiple times, I’ve just watched the beginning scene/mission. Everybody shines. The different personalities & positions are displayed. The various shots of the ship. The hilarious outcome, it’s all there.
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Part of the greatness of this movie is how it parallels the old Star Trek movie with khan. In the old one Spock sacrifices himself while Kirk tricks khan into defeat. Even the Spock’s scream is mirrored, it’s a great rhyme
Actually, what escapes a lot of people's notice is all three of the Kelvin Star Trek Movies mirrored their counterparts in the Prime Timeline. In the first movies, the Enterprise has to stop a massive unknown ship from destroying Earth, and is the only ship able to do so. In the second ones, they must battle a captured Federation starship and,defeat Khan, and face the death of a friend. In the third, the crew dock at the starbase that is a symbol of the Federation, and...well, that would be spoilers. The path of the Kelvin universe is different, yet parallel to the one we saw first.
That's actually a big part of what drew me OUT of this movie. Into Darkness is a hot mess of a film - good set pieces but overall so disjointed as to verge on incoherency. The 2009 Trek had flaws, of course, but was light years better than this one with the 3rd in the reboot series (ST: Beyond) splitting the difference, as far as I'm concerned.
I feel like you should watch the original Star Trek films so you can get an understanding of the scenes and allow you to truly appreciate what they are doing with these movies. The OG franchise really has some epic and emotional moments that I think you would enjoy a lot.
Something my grandpa told me so don't know if it's true or not. But he said in the show or movie Spock made the logical choice and went into the radiation room to save the ship and Kirk fought Khan to bring Spock back to life. So they swapped roles in this movie. Hence in the death scene they talk about how Kirk made the logical choice and Spock made a rational choice (the torpedoes). Basically Spock coming back in time changed destinies like said in the first movie. Kirk's Dad is alive in Old Spock's timeline but now in this timeline he's dead.
Your audio can't be heard over the movie in some places. The editing is also weird in places but that is a nitpick. These are my only critiques. I enjoyed this. Keep up the good work.
To understand certain bits of this movie you would have to watch Star trek 2: The Wrath of Khan.
Watching this movie made me realize just how far they were taking the "alternate timeline" trope. It's a "multiverse" of the Star Trek universe, which makes using Cumberbatch even more ironic. A very particular scene is the reverse of one in the Wrath of Khan, and I was blown away when I first saw that scene. I think it actually made my dad angry, since he's such a fan of the originals. I thought it was genius.
Uninspired
25:23 there’s an entire episode of Star Trek the original series dedicated to Khan. There’s also more than a few novels and storylines fledging our the Khan backstory. I believe an audio drama starring the character is currently in production.
Don't forget about Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, still widely considered one of, if not the best of the Star Trek movies, which picks up some years after the episode.
Background on Khan is super cool! He and his genetically engineered followers took over most of the world and then were finally exiled into space.
There was an episode from the 1960’s show with khan and then the 1980’s movie “Star Trek II The wrath of khan”.
So so good!!
I loved these movies as a kid and was obsessed with them. They are truly underrated
"I bet there's Spock and Kirk fanfiction" 😭 who is going to tell Seb that Spirk basically invented slash fanfics and shipping as we know it
I cried so much watching Kirk die, I have seen the one where it happend to someone else in the show. I felt it.
Seb is talking over the movie more on this one and missing plot points 😂
KHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can I just say how much I love the Tribble cameo!
3:01 generally speaking, there’s no crime. Earth in the Federation is a relative utopia. No random crime, no poverty, no prejudice towards each other. Very little illness. One wouldn’t need a knife or phaser in London because one could feel as safe as houses anywhere, anytime.
Normally the editing and audio in your videos are done really well, but with this one, your mic audio is getting drowned out by the films audio and there are some weird cuts and editing.
Thanks seb, can’t wait to see your reaction for the third movie.
I was literally checking your channel daily because I was so excited for this
How did I forget about this one. This one was so damn good too. But the first one is better
The first one is solid but idk what it is about this second film, I always found it much more rewatchable than the first
I really hope you finish of the trilogy and watch Star Trek Beyond. That one for me is my personal favourite. It goes back too exploring the crews dynamics and focusing on their relationships and bonds with each other. Also this time everyone gets their moment to shine. Plus the best part is we get more Spock and Bones interacting with each other. More so than they did in the two previous two films which I live for.
This was the first time I was introduced to Cumberbatch. He’s so evil I love it😂😂❤
Still waiting for the Maze runner 3 and rest of the Arcane reactions :D
the film audio is too loud, I can barely hear him 😅
Great readtion as always seb keep itt up
I love these movies. They do a lot of homages to TOS that you don't pick up if you haven't watched it but they're still enjoyable anyway. The audio on this video is not up to your usual standards though. A lot of the time I couldn't hear you over the sound of the movie.
I think you need to go back and watch the original movies to appreciate and understand the full back story of the characters. Then you will understand why older spock went back to the past. This movie references Star trek 2 The Wrath of Khan another brilliant movie.
Still waiting for part 3
The big problem with ST movies is that you have to watch the series first to really understand them. The Kelvin timeline was an attempt to circumvent this very dilemma and create something familiar yet new.
That being said, this movie was a real mis-step from the first one, because they were trying so hard to emulate "Wrath of Khan" (while heavily denying it) when I wish they had just tried to do their own thing.
Complete the rabbit hole and watch the third one
@@gchung2700 I felt Beyond was the most Star Trek movie out of all of JJ movies... tbh
Who else cried during kirks death when we were younger?
love this one a lot also for a while didn't know that the actor who play Khan was eventually doctor strange until a year or more after doctor strange came out cause i didn't know it was him since he looked a lot different also found out a few years ago as well the he play smaug in the hobbit movie
Love that Simon Pegg got his Tom Cruise run.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had trouble hearing Seb in this video.
Oh man that intro is dope!!!
I think you would enjoy this movie more if you watched the original series episode "Space Seed" and the 2nd Star Trek movie, "The Wrath of Khan". You're missing a lot of backstory.
Space Seed isn't even needed. All you need to know is 'genetically engineered warlord from Earth's bad old years.' Everything definitional about Khan comes from the movie.
Without giving away spoilers, let's just say that the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701) has been the lead ship of Star Trek since filming of the first television pilot in 1964 through two TV series, the first live-action one in the '60s and the first animated one in the '70s, to the first motion picture in 1979 and beyond. It is also now the lead ship of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, the new TV series now completing its second season after the ship also appeared as a guest star in the first and second seasons of Star Trek: Discovery in 2018 and 2019. More than the Millennium Falcon by a light-year, the Starship Enterprise is the most iconic ship in all of movie and television science-fiction (and is name-dropped in countless other franchises, including Stargate).
No, as you talked over the entire explanation, they took the Enterprise away and sent Kirk back to finish his academy degree because of saving that planet's civilization from the volcano and revealing their existence to primitive people when doing so. Starfleet is forbidden by General Order One (the Prime Directive) from interfering in any way with pre-warp civilizations.
This film was a bad remake of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982), adjusted for the new Kelvin timeline created by Nero, and the casting of Benedict Cumberbatch is _extremely_ *problematic* because the new director cast a very pale white man with a British accent to play a character that is supposed to be a brown-skinned Sikh man with a Punjabi accent of Indian nationality. That practice is pejoratively known as "whitewashing." (The new director also screwed with and screwed up the uniforms, insignia, and hand props, but that's a whole other complaint.) At least the original Khan was played by a Latino actor with an English-as-a-second-language accent wearing swarthy makeup. (And yes, putting swarthy makeup on Cumberbatch would have made things even worse!)
This second one was way more interesting. More complicated story. More action. Love it.
Yeah, if Seb actually shut up long enough to hear any of the dialog, he might have noticed the second movie is better than the first.
More complicated, sure, but it's a doily of plotholes.
Are you gonna watch secret invasion
Cant miss a seb upload.
26:23 omg that screaming
The attack on the building is The Godfather all over again just a space ship rather than a helicopter
This is drawing from (could be somewhat called a remake) the original series movie The Wrath of Khan. I encourage you to watch it. Star Trek III and IV continue from where Wrath of Khan leaves off.
I thought I’d have a quick look at the comments to see how many times and different ways it was explained to him it’s basically a modern remake of what is generally considered the best Star Trek film ever made. Problem is you’d at least have to watch “Space Seed” from the original series and ideally much more than than that. Star Trek is the OG cinematic universe that started in the 60’s/80’s and is still going.
Yes Klingon is a real language. Back when I was a teen in the 90s I had a pamphlet for a Klingon language class. I didn't go but I kept the pamphlet because it had the "alphabet" on it.
It's good entertainment. I tend to agree it doesn't have the same magic as the one before. Into Darkness tries too hard at fan service and just falls flat. If it's something you're coming into with no background on the lore, it's a decent movie though.
What the Klingons boil down to: in the original series, the Klingons were the Soviets and the Federation was (an idealised) America. The chance of a devastating war breaking out was always on people's minds. The first guy to catch COVID did it around 4 years ago, and about 4 years before the first Trek episode aired, the Cuban Missile Crisis was happening. The first episode aired 6 weeks after England won the World Cup, and there were nearly half a million US troops in Vietnam (not suggesting any causal relationships here; no reason to go starting a war to try and help football come home).
The audio is really bad sometimes, can't even hear what you're saying!
Did you notice the character development though, especially with Kirk up until the first half of the movie, and in comparison, his end speech? I didn't catch you saying much about that.
Kirk was promoted to Captain at the end of Movie 1. But Pike was right, he wasn't ready yet for the chair. Only after the second movie, he was finally ready. You can really see it in his actions and the acting. Chris Pine did that role excellently, you can really see and feel the development throughout the film.
yoo Seb! You should really watch Frozen 2!👀🙏🏼
Omg I waited for this ❤🎉
This movie has one of my favorite fakeout deaths. I just love how spock completely loses it when kirk dies and he only calms down once he knows there's a way to save him.
Apparently that whole scene is a reverse of one that happens in star trek II the wrath of khan.
Honestly for me these two movies are all the star trek I need. I have seen star trek beyond but I'm pretty sure I haven't bothered rewatching it. Dunno what it is about it but I guess it just didn't click with me.
13:39 Christine Chapel is actually a character from the original TV show who worked as a nurse on the Enterprise assisting Dr. McCoy. She was actually played by the creator Gene Roddenberry's wife.
You're awesome!!❤🤗
Yeah!
In the second movie with the original cast The Wrath of Khan Spock Dies at the End saving the ship. In a no mods to the original series they had Kirk die in the second movie but came back before the end
I hope you get to see Star Trek beyond sometime!
If you don't recognize the captain of The larger Starfleet ship, that's Peter Weller, aka Robocop (from the original and Robocop 2).
I like the editing on this one!!
now you have to watch the third movie!
The first and second films in this series of Star Trek = one movie arc. First movie: Kirk does not believe in no wins scenarios and doesn't know what it means to make a sacrifice like his father. This movie Kirk has to make that decision where he "loses" and his character grows.
Is it just me or is the commentary overwhelmed by the movie audio. I can’t barely hear my king talk
Nice
Benedict was brilliant as usual ❤
I absolutely love this film and since you don't know of Khan who was in one episode of the original Star Trek series but was a very impactful character who was then brought back for the second film titled Wrath of Khan in the original Star Trek movies you cannot understand the connections. I really don't believe I'm spoiling anything when I say the death scene in Wrath of Khan was extremely emotional. This is a great film which I actually enjoyed more than the first one in this new Star Trek trilogy.
Part of what made this plot feel a little complicated is having the fake identity for Khan. The first name he goes by is an actual character from the original show. While this was in production that is the character the studio announced Cumberbatch was playing. Fans found it rather odd that such a big actor would be playing such a minor character. It leaked before promotions started that he was really Khan and it made everything make sense. Khan is THE Star Trek villain. Ultimately it got kind of convoluted trying to hide who he was really playing.
Khan may have been the most dangerous enemy of the Enterprise but they also included the Klingons most feared enemy: the Tribbles!!
You have to watch the Original Series' Episode "Space Seed" It's where Kahn first appeared and the second Movie which is titeled "The Wrath of Kahn" (You may skip the first one if you want or watch it, the second does not really build on it)
Hey seb I don’t know if you know but when you talk the movie audio isn’t muted and it’s difficult to hear you.
Oh, Seb doesn’t know what he doesn’t know!
they drew out his death because of a previous movie with the original actors i think, with spock behind the glass
YUUURRR FIRST
Dude you absolutely have to watch the third one it is so good I love it so much definitely an awesome hilarious super action packed movie
So much is missing if you haven’t seen the original Star Trek movies. Especially ST 2: Wrath of Kahn.
no but like when i heard him say his name was Khan , I immediately thought everyone on the ship was gonna be dead
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
Obsessed with the warp persecution 😍
If you want the back story of the Kahn character. Check out The Original Series Star Trek episode s1ep22 (space seed) and the movie Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Kahn. May not be a hit for the channel, but worth it to get the story on your own time.
Just chiming in with some Trek knowledge.
The Klingon Empire in the days of The Original Series and the Kelvin universe are another super power in the galaxy, like the Federation and the Romulans in the previous movie, but they're also extremely aggressive, with death during combat being seeing as the only way to die and go to their version of Heaven. Think of them as Space Vikings, but with a shoot first and "what do you mean ask questions?" attitude.
Warp isn't a speed, it's simply a mode of travel. So when the USS Vengeance caught up with the USS Enterprise, it simply has a higher top speed during Warp travel.
Also, do you have any intention of watching the original movies? There's something I'd add, but it's a spoiler for one of those. :3
2:43 That's not Mickey, that's clearly Ricky😉
Holy crap how did i not realize that was mickey??
27:18 comment this turned several series touchstones on their ear. So it was nuttier if you knew the preexisting thing.-Ernie Moore Jr.
There is some conflicty audio in here, as everyone has said, but I don't blame you cranking this one 😂 The Cumberbatch rumbles must be heard at max levels
People already mention it but there are scenes that are homage to old star trek. Khan actual kills Spoc in the original movies and was intend to be permanent death. That is why the scene was suppose to be emotional because they reverse the roles with Kirk being killed allegedly instead. However as much as people loved they movie they loved Leonard Nimoy (Spoc) more and brought him back to life in the next movie. I do agree though the first film was better and as cool as Khan as character he was he felt very tame power scale wise to the original Khan.
Will we ever see the third one?
Khan Noonian Singh. Good British name👍
This’ll all make sense when you watch Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, from the early 80’s. Which is connected to an original Star Trek episode from the 60’s. Yeah.
The first movie was lightning in a bottle, very difficult to top. I found this movie to be very appropriately titled: it was dark. The third one, less so. The good humor of the first one is more evident in #3.
My order of preference for this franchise is 3/1/2 with 2 being a distant 3rd place.
This was my favorite of the three.