Billie Eilish: "men who sexually assault women are weak" Normal people: "agreed" Crowder: "How dare you call me weak" says all you need to know about Crowder
@@NoOne-qd9hc huh? She was getting mad at men who sexually assault women, and he was offended by that. by defending himself he shows that he took it to heart. Therefore he sees himself as one of the men who sexually assault women.
@@octavia4324 no bro. You're using logical fallacies to reach your conclusion. It's sad to me, you can't see that you're making assumptions with no proof. Link me his criminal charges, or just admit you're accusing him with no evidence. Amber Head shit going on, lol.
They hated when she wore baggy clothes and covered herself up, and they hate it when she wears more revealing clothes. And im pretty sure Crowder has made videos against women wearing burkas too. He just gets triggered by other people's individual freedoms so much. You just cant win with idiots.
Is all about control. Billie and any person for what i care should wear the way they want without being object to ridicule by anyone. Crowder is a political host (i'm NOT calling him a comedian. Comedians are funny), this boils down to an idiot whose masculinity is so thin and fragile that he throws dirt to a 19 year old Girl who decided to do some lingerie photos. No one was harmed, he Didn't declared something awful, was published in a respectable magazine, hell i saw the photos and are not Even sugestive, in My opinion are actually pretty classy. This is classic example on how a nothing burguer can be transform into conservative news idiocy via mysoginy.
Crowder gives me “in the closet” vibes, I think he’s over compensating by acting like a “macho” man. Im gay btw so it’s not meant as in insult just an observation. I find men like him so odd and not masculine at all. Just a whiny snarky , brat.
@@AnxietyRat and one of them even fucking admitted that men are weak in the context of control over sexual desire. It is fascinating how close, yet how far they are from understanding the point.
@@SomePersonOnTH-cam Don't you think rapists don't deserve their junk, especially since they used it to assault others and still hold on to their beliefs? Honestly not the best solution in terms of justice, but you have to admit that it is a fitting revenge.
imagine being a 30 yr old guy, getting so upset that a 19 year old girl said that you are weak and you get so upset that you call her a satanist, really hit rock bottom there
@@politicalmind5625 yeah barely, she can't even have an alcoholic beverage here legally yet.. she can make informed decisions but still hasn't even finished development mentally she's definitely not a child but relative to him like... and what's your point steven crowder wasn't even responding to what she said in any way that made sense
I love the “men did everything” argument and the fact that he brought up the male inventors because they could have been invented by women had women been treated equally
Lots of things were invented by women, ya know, back in the good old days when women weren't allowed to be put on patents though, men took credit a lot.
I don’t think Billie was even saying that’s why she thinks men commit sexual assault. I think she’s just responding to the “he couldn’t help himself” thing people will say abt these men with “okay, if that’s true, then men are pathetically weak”
Miss Eilish was saying weak men are those who cannot control their impulsivity. Implicit in that perspective is strong men are those who can control their impulses and do seek to build genuine connections with women. Clearly Crowder was just too overwhelmed with hysteria and emotion in this reaction to really comprehend Miss Eilish’s thoughts on the matter. This is merely a perspective that may have some semblance in fact or not at all. Crowder is not even bothering to think through the topic calmly and rationally.
Why shouldn’t a prostitute be respected?! I don’t get it. They are human beings therefore should be treated with respect and be respected! It is as simple as that. 🤷🏼♀️ He just proves Billies points over and over again.
Not all human beings should be respected tho, it’s a slippery slope when say someone should be respected just because they are a human. Respect should be earned by the person’s character and actions towards others
"Men are weak" he goes on to argue against that while he's angry with a dumb gun holster as a fashion statement..... Billie, you're welcome for the visual representation of your words
@Nuwanda Patriarchy Durden I love how you got triggered on behalf of another person so you felt the need to assume the fashion sense of a random stranger on the internet with a default profile picture.
He really said:"You have no idea how hard it is for men not rape women..." So, back to what Billie said, men are in fact weak. Also love how the cast is only men who are having "locker room talk"
Yeah it’s not like she said men are incompetent! Shows a complete misunderstanding of what she’s saying that he tried to counter it with saying « men invented all this stuff » like wtf that isn’t what she is saying at all.
Fr like imagine thinking I’m being brave for not raping people when if ur a man and this is ur thought process ur not a real man your a boy. Your a weak boy, with a weak mind
@@donventura2116 eh. No. The goal of feminism is, that every gender can have the same opportunities. So that a Woman can make money and a man can stay home, or both work half-time - and of course that a man can make money and a woman can stay home, there shouldn’t be unnecessary boundaries from society. This necessary freedom of choice includes LGTBQIA+ Community. I’m a women and in my relationship with a man, his wish is to be a stay at home dad or work halftime and my wish is to work full time. So no, you are wrong, you can not say „women do not want stay at home husbands“, it is different in every relationship. And it is also not correct to say „every man want a wife, who stays home to do housework and raise the kids“, it is different for every couple. Unfortunately, in our society, we don’t have choice uninfluenced by our gender, so more man have jobs where they earn more money than a women, that’s why many couples have to decide, that the woman stays home and the man works fulltime, because they have no other choice. There are many studies out there showing, why women have less chances and it comes down to the patriarchy. Feminism tries to change that. Patriarchy is bad for men and women.
@@donventura2116 well what you're talking about has more to do with your perception of women than feminist theory. it's not really about what individual women want. this is the problem with talking about feminism on the internet. men hear feminism and automatically substitute it with all women. feminism is an academic and political movement that aims to create equality of options and self actualization between both sexes. individual women might feel however they want to feel about men working at home (I think you're wrong btw, just speaking as a woman) but the movement is meant to create a world where gender doesn't determine what kind of life you're able to live.
@@donventura2116 I didn’t really say feminism isn’t concerned with relationships, I said the goals of feminism aren’t determined by what individual women or even a majority of woman want their specific relationships to look like. relationships are definitely important to feminism but also every relationship is unique. Feminism is concerned with making it possible for each couple to have the freedom to make the choice that’s best for each relationship. If some women want men who provide financially, then that’s what works for them. Feminism is trying to make peoples lives less about what society thinks your relationship should look like and more about what the each specific couple thinks their relationship should look like.
I love how crowder gets mad that he never had the option to be a stay at home dad when that is LITERALLY BECAUSE OF THE GENDER ROLES THAT HE WANTS TO PERPETUATE
That’s why I really believe all the men who have these types of prejudice towards women, are really jealous. We see a lot of lesbians who hate men, but no gay people who hate women, I believe Steven crowder is one of them 🤣 the jealousy and hatred towards us, mixed with the idea that his partner needs to be able to adhere to all these specific rules, seriously reminds me of how the gay girls hate all men besides Harry styles. Not saying it’s a bad thing to be gay there’s just a huge underlying picture to his misogyny
@@simplyvibinn5417 Men call women weak all the time, see the “getting hit in the balls is worse than your period” trope. If your ego is fragile enough to get hurt as much as Steven Crowder’s was in this video, then you might be kinda weak, no matter how “masculine” you try to present yourself.
@@baquerka You genuinely think an observation about a specific event hurting worse for men than another specific event hurts women can stand as the reversed role equivalent of a public figure with more influence than anyone can comprehend stating outright that "men are weak."? Also the attitude? Really? It was a question. I just want to understand your thinking.
@@simplyvibinn5417 First of all, I didn't give you "attitude", and if that's how you interpret reading this comment from a woman answering your question then that's on you. Your question was condescending at best though. I did in fact give you an answer, but happy to further explain that it's completely irrelevant whether or not "I like my people being called weak", it happens all the time whether I like it or not. I gave you ONE example, but I could go on about how men tell women they're physically frail and emotionally weak all day long. I don't know if you just didn't read the article or what, but her comment was referring to men who sexually assault and harass women, it wasn't an overarching comment about men's overall weakness. She as referring to men who grab women because they're dressed a certain way, those men ARE weak and have no self control. Also, "more influence than anyone can comprehend", a little dramatic aren't we.
@@baquerka Alright cool. Words are great, I love words. Gotchas? Completely irrelevant points? Semantics? Personal insults? Love it. The actual argument now.
@@kiwiscone Oh great, then the tweet that you're referring to where the roles are reversed and a public figure denounces women entirely should be pretty easy to find. And yes! A history textbook lol. I go outside to run pretty frequently, no slutshaming to be seen yet. All seriousness though, I genuinely just want to understand the actual reality of the claim you're making. How are the roles reversed? I look at "society" and I see nothing but people who whole-heartedly agree that people should wear what they want.
@@simplyvibinn5417 go on the internet, it’s not that hard to find... search up a video abt sex workers or something and see people shame them in the comments
i love how Crowder so frequently debates strawmen that he often ends up making the point he’s trying to disprove and then uploads it to his youtube channel
@@marylawrence2218 *OBVIOUSLY* they are. Like, one of the main points of feminism is giving women the opportunity of having an actual career. And because support for children (especially kindergarten and daycare) is getting gutted by western nations, raising kids means one of the parents more or less *must* stay at home. So 1 parent must stay home. The woman wants a career. Oh I wonder, who should become the parent staying at home in a hetero-normative relationship. Also stay-at-home dads are an awesome thing! When I was a child I basically only saw my dad at the weekends and our relationship is luke-warm at best now that I am an aduld. My brother-in-law was a stay-at-home-dad and nowadays often works from home and he too says it's so much better than what he experienced with his dad when he was a child. Sorry for the rant, tl;dr: Crowder is stupid af
Billie is only 19. She doesn't necessarily have the life experience yet to know how to phrase everything perfectly, but she presents her ideas well for someone so young. She also alludes to the fact that she is a victim of SA herself, so I'm sure she has some strong emotions there. Beating up on her is so lame.
and yeah we all now that she wasn't addressing all men, she was addressing men who thinks its ok to say "you deserve SA because you wore xyz", and crowder took it out of proportion. like ??
Why is she a victim of San Andreas? Isn't she a little too young, considering that game was made for PS2? Guess I'm a victim of SA too then, I'm only like 2 or 3 years older than her. I messed up my homie when we played 2 player (no split screen on San Andreas, so we had to be on same screen). I kept pressing the button to kiss, and it had like a real animation for it. I kissed him a lot. Not in real life though, he was a disgusting person, so I saved my irl kisses for my other homies
That isnt what she said “ men are weak i think its just easy for them to lose it” so where does she separate the offenders from all men in that statement?
@@saulmendez2276 That was the point though. He took those words from an article, without taking the time to read the context and ACTUALLY do research as he was making a big deal about in the beginning, just so that he could make a big fuss about a 'leftist woman' because he had no other news to talk about and couldn't handle a teenager talking about sexual assault and other current world problems. His video was pathetic.
@@saulmendez2276 the old bald guy agreed with her by saying that men cannot help but assault women they find attractive because "it is so hard for them". Lol
Billie Eilish: “Men are weak” Steven Crowder: “N-n-n-o we’re not I’ll prove it by wasting a half hour attacking your middle name with people I hired to laugh at my jokes”
The biggest self report in this video is crowder assuming that Billie only sang on her brothers music because of "sex appeal". She literally started at 13 years old.
Billie Eilish, "Men are very weak" Outraged Man in his 30's, "And to prove how strong we are we're going to whine about the mean things a 19 year old said about us"
Tired man on a slow news day: "dumb Y-chromosome lacking person said dumb thing" FTFY. 19 year olds are adults and in the modern world they also have internet access. There is no excuse for being stupid.
@@Skittlespillygog Are you saying a grown man taking advantage of a 16 year old girl is HER promoting pedophilia? She was a child at 16 she had no concept of that because its so easy to be manipulated by an adult as a minor.
Literally my parents shame me all the time for working and not having children. My dad literally told my I was wasting my only purpose in this world by not having children. I bought my dad a very nice watch for his birthday with my money that I make at my business. He turned to my husband and thanked him. Wtf.
Google inventions by men, to take credit for, vicariously because you were born a man... Does this work with other things to, like having skin? Can I take credit for what alligators are capable of, just because we both have a form of skin?
Lmfao Ahh yes because women built the society we live in today. Women and men both play important parts in society but women so happen to have the advantage of never having to build it you enjoy the luxury of living in a western society that treats women with respect even though you as a gender haven't contributed shit.
@@jebediahrage8273 Yeah, actually, since I can wield a sword, it means I’m a swordsman and need no formal training or anything to take credit for samurais and knights. 🤣
Wait why does being attracted to someone automatically means that they lose respect.. I find a lot of men attractive who pose shirtless and still respect them as a human because that's a decent thing to do.
Because the concept of acknowledging women can be both attractive and worthy of respect threatens an emotional basis for the patriarchy, which states that women must be subjugated (or gently but constantly coerced by "well meaning" authoritarian parents) in order to control their sexuality as to prevent foreign males from being lured into attacking the tribe. The fact that we are beyond such simple societal constructs and are capable of abandoning them and constructing new ways of approaching how sexuality is seen by society also scares authoritarians, who are scared of change, so they maintain the hierarchy.
“Women have less pressure” yeah as the first female stem major in my family I 100% agree there’s no pressure at all subverting gender stereotypes in a conservative family thanks stevo much appreciated
Men really don’t get the concept that women don’t always dress up for them. Some do, but often they don’t. The whole process of getting dressed up for a night out is just as fun as the night out itself, many girls use it as a social affair. They listen to music, catch up with each other, do each other’s make up and hair etc. That’s why they don’t do it just to ‘watch game of thrones’. It’s done on special occasions because it makes you feel special, it’s pampering, the getting ready process is a whole thing in itself.
“‘i think men are weak’ imagine if the rolls were reversed” THEY ARE. THEY HAVE BEEN. but yea let’s pretend women have not been called frail and weak forever
Did you know that an Egyptian woman found out that our planet circles the sun in a eclipse. It's not like there were no great woman in history and yes there ain't so many at least known. But there's big difference between the men back than and today. I do not dwell on the past I rather focus on the present and the future. Because it aint fair to blame those dead men's if most of the men's of today are more fair than those back than right? Just wanted to say that because I feel like men's get attacked here(not really but it probably feels uncomfortable to hear men addressed even though they know it doesn't mean them)even though most of them who watch this are actually really nice people
@@JustMeAPotatoe not saying that all men are bad because it's simply not true. But the effects of patriarchy is still evident in all countries. In some countries like- USA, women don't face as much inequality but in some like- Turkey, women will get shot for posting a picture of her face on fb.
@@sagorikaroy3505 Seems like I completely forgot this since I grew up in a community equality with a pretty good equality that I completely overlooked where woman are not treated equally.
i hate the argument that women don’t dress for themselves in public because “yOu dOnT dREsS thAt wAY at hOmE” when literally NO ONE spends most of their home life in outfits they enjoy. i dress modestly when i leave the house but you don’t see me chillin in bed with my jeans on. like i guess no one dresses for themselves then unless you spend 24/7 in normal clothes
Exactly. Men also don't usually dress the same way at home as they do in public. Are they doing it for women? Actually.. These guys probably would say that they do. They are the type to focus everything they do in their lives around becoming more fuckable to women.
I spend most of my home time in my PJs (since I currently live alone) and most of the time I don't even wear pajama pants. So yeah, I definitely do not dress in public like I do in my own home. Also, most people also don't dress like they do going to church/court/certain formal workspaces, etc. like they do at home, so I don't know what his point is. Hell, most people don't dress at home like they do in night clubs, if we're talking about the kind of clothing closer to what Billie is wearing.
When I hear the phrase "weak man", it evokes an image of someone who needs to wear a visible gun holster to his job in a podcast studio in order to feel safe and confident, or someone who needs a security team to feel comfortable going to a college campus and chatting college students, or like someone who gets viscerally uncomfortable with the sexual preferences of complete strangers...
Bille ellish who has all those things and made the point your defending 😶. (Not defending crowders point just think its funny you point out his right to own a firearm and a security team to the same level bille has in public)
@@unclebary519 There. I fixed the reply to hold your hand through the critique I was making. It was wrong of me to think that questioning your sobriety was enough to get those synapses firing.
@@Durrutitv i think ur missing dude im literally just making a joke abt bille having security if im being honest i dont know what ur going on abt there really isnt anything to misunderstand or even understand it was a pretty basic and shit joke tbh i didnt even expect a reply im kinda suprised
First of all, it's his show, if he wants wear a gun holster then he can and it's none of your business. Secondly, he's a comedian and his show is full of comedy and jokes, not sure if you noticed that. And thirdly, you do realise that women also have bodyguards and a security team too right? Including Billie Elilish. Your comment is stupid!
1. The fact that they think staying at home as a parent means you arent providing or protecting means they have no idea what a stay at home parent is doing 2. That they think anyone is being told they can stay at home and not work means they have too much money to be having this conversation for anyone
It’s honestly remarkable how brilliant Hasan’s takes are for practically every subject that is discussed. I love the way he articulates his ideas without the obnoxiousness of a supposed “intellectual”. So glad I stumbled upon his content in the past year.
For the most part yeah. Although I remember watching his streams last year and some of his takes just didn't hit at all. But he is his own person, so I'm not going to agree with him on everything. I do agree about the way he puts across his points though, it's a perfect balance of being educative but also entertaining and easy to understand
@@seby826 Hate crush? Or is it just that Crowder somehow manages to consistently make bad takes that are hard to ignore. He's like Joe Rogan in that he continously manages to say fucked up shit, and given the size of their platforms it's hard for Hasan to ignore (given the content/commentary he produces)
Steven: "Women are gonna have to start standing up for what actually matters to them." Women: *standing up and owning their bodies* Steven: No, stand up in the way that men want you to, you're hurting my feelings >:,[
Bet she's richer than him too, I think it comes from jealousy. He might be feeling confident putting other people down, especially ones doing better than him. That means he can never be confident when he's alone, filled with self hatred. But I don't know anything, it was just my first thoughts. I hope Billy ignores him, but she's gotten so strong since the start of her career. She might just laugh at him too.
Forget her, he's still upset a woman in some 1990's movies could say "this dress makes men weak" and he felt betrayed when he put on that dress and didn't get hit on.
Bille : "Men are weak as they have no self control & thinks sexual harassment is normal because of their uncontrollable hormones" Steven : "but man invented camera, printing press, ink, ooga booga!" Like where's the correlation Stevie Chowder 😐🤨
@Alias Fakename No circuit board, no screen display, not a modern computer Just because he’s like, the one example of a gay inventor who invented something actually important, doesn’t mean we need to pretend he invented everything Did Alan invent the internet too?
10:10 "And men need to do a better job at helping other men deal with that kinda stuff" Didn't they mock the Gillette commercial for trying to convey exactly that?
"Don't say I'm not a role model now because you're turned on by me." - Billie Eyelash Steven Chowder knows about as much about sexual assault / harassment as Matt Gaetz knows about how NOT to fly on an airplane to the Caribbean with minors so.
everyday i think my life has reached a new low point but then i remember stepstool croquet is so insecure that an adult woman showing her body is enough to make him angrily spiral into a hissy fit ON CAMERA and everything becomes infinitely less depressing
“You don’t wear a push-up bra and a corset when you are at home binge watching game of thrones”? Buddy you don’t know me and yes I do, I also do it while wearing a full face of makeup, gold eyeshadow and guillotine earrings :))))
...I'm a girl and my parents told me to go into work and not rely on a man and never be a house wife because it makes it that much easier for a man to control you... Many other my other female friends have also has their parents say this. A lot of their mum's are stay at home mums encouraging their daughters to work.
As a woman the conversation my parents had with me was to coverup to protect myself from boys who are weak and dont have self control or else im a sl*t
@@jennylee5003 well that’s a lie. Degenerates you in anything. If kid, old folks, animals , and dead bodies get defiled do you really think those kind of men wouldn’t?
@@beophobic9653 women were surely as important to these inventions as men were to cultivating a foetus. Men generally are a bit weak in my opinion. But that weakness is brought on by patriarchy and privilege, not genetically or physically.
Men who stay home with the kids are still looked down upon by many people in society. Just because some men have done it doesn't mean we should treat it as easy. It is still something that society needs to make more acceptable.
The argument that "women are more nurturing" is so psychotic to me because it implies that men aren't caring or nurturing at all. It's the ultimate self-own actually.
I agree. Being nurturing isn't a gender thing, it's how you were raised and how your personality is. My husband is very nurturing, sometimes more than I am. I'm the one that's more prone to anger, and that's because I was raised by a father with untreated anger issues .
Even though I disagree with Steven’s take, I can abstract his reasoning, that primitive humanistic biological urges are amplified during certain empirical processes. Men are physiologically more inclined to have aggressive hormonal tendencies on display , especially regarding these motives, but of course these men are outliers, based on their own interpretations, and discipline, will; to combat against such behavior. it’s even worst if the individual wasn’t conditioned to such ethical and moral instituted practices, based on his environmental growth.
FUCKING THANK YOU! 😂 They kill me with this bullshit argument. It’s not a hypothetical question when the roles have *been* reversed for 12,000 years. Lmao! They really think they’re doing something with that question.
@@botanicalitus4194 I guess you can’t expect much from kids who were basically taught that the world did a big reset after the 1960’s. 🤦🏾♀️ The ignorance is astounding.
@@botanicalitus4194 if you see it on TH-cam more than Reddit than you must be sticking to r/chonkers because Reddit’s redeeming quality is that it is not 4chan, and it is almost as bad
@FIGHTFANNERD9 And all of those men... what was the gender of the person who gave birth to them? The person that made their life, and everything they accomplished possible?
@@drshlotzkin How many people are born without a father there? Lots. How many people are born without a mother present? A couple hundred test tube babies maybe.
“Men aren’t weak and to prove it I’m gonna go on a 30 minute rank about how we’re genetically unable to contain our urges”. Everything Crowder said is legitimately more Anti-Men than anything Billie said.
@@matthewbliss4115 the likes lol, feels like reddit. But I mean like in all actuality, I don't believe Steven Crowder to be a rapist, and I can't think of a better reason for why labelling him as one and gets you this much support other than identity politics/social conformity. Genuinely do not understand why anyone would die on that hill. If Steven Crowder is a rapist, please educate me.
It's because Eilish dared to question or challenge male heterosexuality, a no-no in authoritarian culture. So Crowder, interpretating this as an attack of sorts as authoritarians do, then responds to this with a fight or flight response, so he has to attack Eilish (despite it betraying his feeling of being threatened) and at the same time try to run from her logic to justify the status quo (ie flight). So he has to frame men's sexuality as a source of strength, and women's sexuality as a source of weakness and inferiority.
In his mind, he was arguing against her. In reality, it was the spider-man pointing at spider-man. Like, my dude, you’re making the same *fucking argument!*
It’s because his masculinity felt attacked😂 his own ego his own tribe!!! Eilish said that men are weak if they have no self control and disrespect women and he was like “WAAAAHHH!!! u know, it’s hard to control myself :( I don’t try because I know it’s impossible. It’s not that I’m weak, it’s in my nature” cuz to him masculinity is about not being weak or vulnerable or open in any way. I rolled my eyes so hard at the fact that he cares more about his own ego that the victims of SA and the fact that men who SA someone are stupid!!!!! ...unless he sees them as normals... normal male behavior is disrespecting a woman that wants to be free and be whoever she wants to be!!!!! U see a guy walking out without his shirt on {nipples exposed} and no one gives a fuck!!!!! No one is gonna tell him to cover himself up or they won’t be respected!!!!! If a guy is sweaty after playing a soccer, they can take off their shirt and no one is claiming that their disrespect and sex drive is on full blast autopilot NOBODY WILL SAY ANYTHING because we’re used to it. Women in some countries don’t even wear tops or bras or ANYTHING and they are respected by their own people. And they are still treated like humans and not objects!!!!!
@@zm4362 Everyone expects gay men not to sexually harass shirtless men or men in general period, but expecting the same standard of behavior toward women from straight men is considered, on some level, unreasonable by Crowder
I wear my corset almost all day everyday. Because I don't like bras and I enjoy the back support. I do my makeup and get dressed up just to do chores because I have depression and getting dressed is an easy place to start my day and makes me feel good. I never leave the house except to go grocery shopping. So. Am I walking around my house dressed up just because there's an off chance a man might knock on door? What?
Do you have any advice on ways to make yourself get out of bed and actually do things? I spend nearly all my time in bed and I fucking hate it because I have so many things I want to do but can’t ever muster up motivation. I’m so tired of forcing myself to do everything. Just once I want to wake up and want to get out of bed.
@@trevordavis8210 Hey I'm sorry I'm not the OP, but I find just sometimes propping yourself up on your pillows or even something as small as turning over as soon as you wake up is a good first step. But always remember to take everything a step at a time. Just make sure you know your own pace and dont try to take on too much at once.
@@trevordavis8210 play some nice music and start small, count down and don’t think about it; “on 3, im gonna get up and throw that cup away…1, 2, 3!” and do it
I told my wife it was ok to be a stay at home mom, then she reminded me that we have bills and its fucking impossible to run a family on a single income. But keep comparing women today to women in the 1950's Crowder
His ability to be so overly fixtated on one sentence without reading the rest of the point she's making is almost impressive Edit: meant overly fixtated not hyperfixated
@@greywolf7577 In the context of sexual assault, no. No woman would find that fact upsetting. Because guess what? Women can sexually assault people, too. And those that do, are... **drumroll** ... ...weak.
Your dumb. She's clueless. She's never been touched. But she will feed of the weak and abused for fan club just like males weak males do she's no different
I like how the framing when it comes to men taking responsibility for sexual misconduct they say, "it's impossible to control no matter what the woman is wearing," but 5 minutes later when they talk about how a woman wants to be perceived they literally say the opposite. No awareness of the double standard they just created lol.
from what i understand, her point is that people who say "oh you cant wear that and not expect men to do x" is basically THEM calling men weak with 0 self control. so crowder literally is just proving her point.
@@simplyvibinn5417 Steven crowder read the start and lost it so I’m assuming he just ignored the rest of Billie’s point. he just cherry picked so not a good commentary of her interview since he doesn’t even read the whole thing or just doesn’t understand it loll
Steven: women need to start standing up for the things that are actually important to them Billie Eilish: does exactly that in a vogue interview Steven: WHATTHEFUCKSHESASLUT
Billie Eilish: "men who sexually assault women are weak"
Normal people: "agreed"
Crowder: "How dare you call me weak"
says all you need to know about Crowder
Literally. She was talking about that group of men in particular and it just shows his guilty conscience
for real tho! He's crazy
No it doesn't. If your low-key accusing him of actions, please...show your work. What cases against Crowder are you referencing?
@@NoOne-qd9hc huh? She was getting mad at men who sexually assault women, and he was offended by that. by defending himself he shows that he took it to heart. Therefore he sees himself as one of the men who sexually assault women.
@@octavia4324 no bro. You're using logical fallacies to reach your conclusion. It's sad to me, you can't see that you're making assumptions with no proof. Link me his criminal charges, or just admit you're accusing him with no evidence. Amber Head shit going on, lol.
They hated when she wore baggy clothes and covered herself up, and they hate it when she wears more revealing clothes. And im pretty sure Crowder has made videos against women wearing burkas too. He just gets triggered by other people's individual freedoms so much.
You just cant win with idiots.
Cant fix stupid
Is all about control. Billie and any person for what i care should wear the way they want without being object to ridicule by anyone. Crowder is a political host (i'm NOT calling him a comedian. Comedians are funny), this boils down to an idiot whose masculinity is so thin and fragile that he throws dirt to a 19 year old Girl who decided to do some lingerie photos. No one was harmed, he Didn't declared something awful, was published in a respectable magazine, hell i saw the photos and are not Even sugestive, in My opinion are actually pretty classy. This is classic example on how a nothing burguer can be transform into conservative news idiocy via mysoginy.
He thinks we should all wear a holster
She should wear a bin bag as a robe and see if they hate that too.
Yes, burkas are indeed a symbol of individual freedom.
The un-holstered shoulder straps stay on during sexual assault.
Lmao
Oh my goddd
LMAO
Lolllll
What’s the matter babe? You haven’t touched your empty gun holster
Crowder implies like 20 times that you can't think of someone sexually and respect them at the same time
thats real common in conservative guys which is probably why they all end up as incels
10:05🤢🤮
"Billie Eilish doesn't understand empowerment" is just brilliant coming from the most blatantly insecure man I've ever seen.
fr
He’s so sad I feel kinda bad
@@eggsbruhnadict4298 it’s embarrassing for sure
Voice of Jesse Lee Peterson would said BETA!!
Crowder gives me “in the closet” vibes, I think he’s over compensating by acting like a “macho” man. Im gay btw so it’s not meant as in insult just an observation. I find men like him so odd and not masculine at all. Just a whiny snarky , brat.
Saying that women don't deserve respect because they dress provocatively is EXACTLY why Billie made her statement.
Wait, Stephen Crowder didn't get the point of the statement?! No!
;)
For real... The were so close... And then just entirely missed the point of her quote lmao.
@@AnxietyRat and one of them even fucking admitted that men are weak in the context of control over sexual desire. It is fascinating how close, yet how far they are from understanding the point.
Imagine actually being as dumb as Stephen Crowder?
He's literally repeating so many of her points, then twisting them to fit his agenda.
"If I'm a misogynist, why do I think that women are better than men at cooking food, raising children, and cleaning the house?"
The crazy part is how often they trot this out
And keep thinking it's an amazing defence
Oh and the other buffoon threw in a token, "They make excellent sandwiches"
This is a show that has actual followers on TH-cam
I groaned so loud when I heard that
Holy shit, i thought you were making a joke, but then he actually said this what the fuck!
If I'm a racist, why do I have a black friend?
“the pronouns are messing me up” sooooo it’s difficult for him to speak english? we learned pronouns in like kindergarten
Seriously pronoun haters are committing self-owns constantly lmao
Another proof for billies point lol
"We are hard wired"
Wtf dude, full mask off psychopaths on that show. Holy shit, imagine turning the rapists into the victim.
I swear that Chowder and his crew need their junk cut off and be behind bars fr frs.
Reminds me of the Metallica album: Hardwired to self-destruct
@@SomePersonOnTH-cam awwee! Did I hit a nerve ? Lol too bad .
@@SomePersonOnTH-cam Don't you think rapists don't deserve their junk, especially since they used it to assault others and still hold on to their beliefs? Honestly not the best solution in terms of justice, but you have to admit that it is a fitting revenge.
@@Dave102693 i second this
imagine being a 30 yr old guy, getting so upset that a 19 year old girl said that you are weak and you get so upset that you call her a satanist, really hit rock bottom there
Why does age matter? Seems ageist.
I personally disagree, there is no rock bottom for these people any more. They keep going lower somehow
@@politicalmind5625 it's the age gap man she's a teenager and he's a grown ass adult getting offended about nothing jus weird
@@wishingwell_333 She is an adult as well.
@@politicalmind5625 yeah barely, she can't even have an alcoholic beverage here legally yet.. she can make informed decisions but still hasn't even finished development mentally she's definitely not a child but relative to him like... and what's your point steven crowder wasn't even responding to what she said in any way that made sense
so basically billie says men are weak and stephoonie croudier decided he would just prove her point in five fucking seconds lmao
Right?! I was so confused. 😂
Steven "Clam" Chowder
👍🏾😅😂🤣👏🏾
he spent nearly 15 minutes continuously proving her point lmao
If a male celebrity said women are weak, you know Feminist youtubers would be reacting in the same way.
he literally just proved billie’s point lmao
Billie eilish is known for saying some pretty heinous shit about men. Straight up misandry. This vid aged terribly
@@dragonsaige that has nothing to do with this video though. Steven still proved her point here regardless of anything else she's said.
@@dragonsaige she's still right
@@dragonsaige Like what?
I love the “men did everything” argument and the fact that he brought up the male inventors because they could have been invented by women had women been treated equally
Women invented men.
Lots of things were invented by women, ya know, back in the good old days when women weren't allowed to be put on patents though, men took credit a lot.
Men have a long history of claiming the accomplishments of women so just going to google and looking up who invented what won’t tell you shit.
@@zephyrproffitt240 Really? That would be a fascinating novel or documentary.
@@trashrat3204 that sums it up perfectly
“men are weak, they lose their minds over anything”
steven crowder: loses his mind
I read this as the joker😂
Exactly 😆😆😆
Billie Eilish: Thank you for proving my point, Stevie.
@FIGHTFANNERD9 Everything Chowder says is dumb.
Crowder is empirical proof weak insecure men exist.
I don’t think Billie was even saying that’s why she thinks men commit sexual assault. I think she’s just responding to the “he couldn’t help himself” thing people will say abt these men with “okay, if that’s true, then men are pathetically weak”
Yeah ikr it’s pretty easy to understand
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say that if a man does that he’s immediately put behind bars but let’s talk about women assaulting men💁♂️
@@ratface7200 What?? I genuinely have no idea what you’re talking abt or how it relates to my comment
Miss Eilish was saying weak men are those who cannot control their impulsivity. Implicit in that perspective is strong men are those who can control their impulses and do seek to build genuine connections with women. Clearly Crowder was just too overwhelmed with hysteria and emotion in this reaction to really comprehend Miss Eilish’s thoughts on the matter. This is merely a perspective that may have some semblance in fact or not at all. Crowder is not even bothering to think through the topic calmly and rationally.
@@loreleimonn3220 Dude subscribes to pewdiepie. Tells you all you need to know. The little incel will be forever alone. That notion makes me so happy.
Why shouldn’t a prostitute be respected?! I don’t get it. They are human beings therefore should be treated with respect and be respected! It is as simple as that. 🤷🏼♀️
He just proves Billies points over and over again.
it's not that they shouldn't be respected they just shouldn't call themselves a whore and then get upset when someone else calls them that
@@snek9558 what prostitute have you seen call themselves a whore?
@@snek9558 Im assuming you use that logic with racial slurs as well
Not all human beings should be respected tho, it’s a slippery slope when say someone should be respected just because they are a human. Respect should be earned by the person’s character and actions towards others
@@codeinecowboy8607 meanwhile you’re that dude looking for reasons to not respect someone. Wow.
"Men aren't weak."
Says the man currently crumbling like a Nature Valley bar.
I ate one of those today, and I can confirm that he is crumbling like that
Bro the guy reacting to this is angrier than him and it sounds like crowder is just having fun with it
@@correctresponse3281 for real man I like both of them but crowder is not all that crazy in this video.
@@correctresponse3281 nah
@@linksdeath if that is all you get from this then aw, bless you
"Men are weak" he goes on to argue against that while he's angry with a dumb gun holster as a fashion statement..... Billie, you're welcome for the visual representation of your words
It’s not even a cool holster. It’s like the lamest thing ever
He’s just cosplaying to appeal to his base
@Nuwanda Patriarchy Durden nah its cringe.
@Nuwanda Patriarchy Durden I love how you got triggered on behalf of another person so you felt the need to assume the fashion sense of a random stranger on the internet with a default profile picture.
@Nuwanda Patriarchy Durden if people didn’t know he was cosplaying Nathan drake, it looks pretty lame
He really said:"You have no idea how hard it is for men not rape women..." So, back to what Billie said, men are in fact weak. Also love how the cast is only men who are having "locker room talk"
Still can't believe this dude self reported so hard like this
@@Jif498 I can't even believe people like him exist, he has literally zero common sense fuckin' hell.
@@Unreachableparadise you know the more scary part is his millions of followers. People believe him. Mostly men.
Yeah it’s not like she said men are incompetent! Shows a complete misunderstanding of what she’s saying that he tried to counter it with saying « men invented all this stuff » like wtf that isn’t what she is saying at all.
Fr like imagine thinking I’m being brave for not raping people when if ur a man and this is ur thought process ur not a real man your a boy. Your a weak boy, with a weak mind
The second he said "AS A CHRISTIAN" throwing the ✝️ in there for validating his words. I can't
Funny how they keep saying they're Christian but literally go against Christ's teachings.
@@Stephyj15 !! Most christians in a nutshell tbh.
@@ayybibi unfortunately true. Sad to see Christ's name be used like this tbh.
@@Stephyj15 How?
@@ayybibi I'm a Christian , and I don't agree with you.
Billie: “men need to get some self control”
Crowder: “uhhh well a man invented the camera. Owned”
"well, your brother wrote your songs." Owned.
'Men are weak'
Crowder: 'Well men invented the printing press' OWNED
thats sexism, literally, the defenition of sexism.
prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, , on the basis of sex.
He's a complete idiot.
@@adoseegy1411 I can’t tell if this is serious
He's literally complaining that men aren't given the option to be stay at home dads when feminism is trying to give men that option.
@@donventura2116 eh. No. The goal of feminism is, that every gender can have the same opportunities. So that a Woman can make money and a man can stay home, or both work half-time - and of course that a man can make money and a woman can stay home, there shouldn’t be unnecessary boundaries from society.
This necessary freedom of choice includes LGTBQIA+ Community.
I’m a women and in my relationship with a man, his wish is to be a stay at home dad or work halftime and my wish is to work full time. So no, you are wrong, you can not say „women do not want stay at home husbands“, it is different in every relationship.
And it is also not correct to say „every man want a wife, who stays home to do housework and raise the kids“, it is different for every couple.
Unfortunately, in our society, we don’t have choice uninfluenced by our gender, so more man have jobs where they earn more money than a women, that’s why many couples have to decide, that the woman stays home and the man works fulltime, because they have no other choice.
There are many studies out there showing, why women have less chances and it comes down to the patriarchy. Feminism tries to change that. Patriarchy is bad for men and women.
@@donventura2116 well what you're talking about has more to do with your perception of women than feminist theory. it's not really about what individual women want. this is the problem with talking about feminism on the internet. men hear feminism and automatically substitute it with all women. feminism is an academic and political movement that aims to create equality of options and self actualization between both sexes. individual women might feel however they want to feel about men working at home (I think you're wrong btw, just speaking as a woman) but the movement is meant to create a world where gender doesn't determine what kind of life you're able to live.
@@Pohlmaster yes thank, that is what I was trying to say.
@@donventura2116 I didn’t really say feminism isn’t concerned with relationships, I said the goals of feminism aren’t determined by what individual women or even a majority of woman want their specific relationships to look like. relationships are definitely important to feminism but also every relationship is unique. Feminism is concerned with making it possible for each couple to have the freedom to make the choice that’s best for each relationship. If some women want men who provide financially, then that’s what works for them. Feminism is trying to make peoples lives less about what society thinks your relationship should look like and more about what the each specific couple thinks their relationship should look like.
? The only thing ive seen from feminists movement is the fight to have the right to murder babies a right u already have may i remind you
Steven gets triggered so fast, it's amazing. His snowflakery knows no bounds-- he made a 1 hour podcast over 1 teenage girl's magazine interview.
Thanks for modeling real alpha behaviour, Steven.
He is lame period
Let’s talk about your profile picture
@@su2spinors what does that have to do with anything bae
Yall really creepy miss characterizing less than 10 minutes of a one hour episode but hey whatever.
They saw "men are weak" and immediately brought out their masculine qualities checklist. I honestly love hearing people be so passionately wrong.
Republicans 😂
I love how crowder gets mad that he never had the option to be a stay at home dad when that is LITERALLY BECAUSE OF THE GENDER ROLES THAT HE WANTS TO PERPETUATE
He probably has enough money saved up to retire & stay at home. Wish he would.
@@johnpjones182 it’s not about the money it’s the attention
That’s why I really believe all the men who have these types of prejudice towards women, are really jealous. We see a lot of lesbians who hate men, but no gay people who hate women, I believe Steven crowder is one of them 🤣 the jealousy and hatred towards us, mixed with the idea that his partner needs to be able to adhere to all these specific rules, seriously reminds me of how the gay girls hate all men besides Harry styles. Not saying it’s a bad thing to be gay there’s just a huge underlying picture to his misogyny
"Women have to start standing up for what they believe in." Yeah no shit STEVE, that's exactly what Billie is doing, you just don't like it!
Do you like when your class of people is being called weak?
@@simplyvibinn5417 Men call women weak all the time, see the “getting hit in the balls is worse than your period” trope. If your ego is fragile enough to get hurt as much as Steven Crowder’s was in this video, then you might be kinda weak, no matter how “masculine” you try to present yourself.
@@baquerka You genuinely think an observation about a specific event hurting worse for men than another specific event hurts women can stand as the reversed role equivalent of a public figure with more influence than anyone can comprehend stating outright that "men are weak."? Also the attitude? Really? It was a question. I just want to understand your thinking.
@@simplyvibinn5417 First of all, I didn't give you "attitude", and if that's how you interpret reading this comment from a woman answering your question then that's on you. Your question was condescending at best though. I did in fact give you an answer, but happy to further explain that it's completely irrelevant whether or not "I like my people being called weak", it happens all the time whether I like it or not. I gave you ONE example, but I could go on about how men tell women they're physically frail and emotionally weak all day long. I don't know if you just didn't read the article or what, but her comment was referring to men who sexually assault and harass women, it wasn't an overarching comment about men's overall weakness. She as referring to men who grab women because they're dressed a certain way, those men ARE weak and have no self control. Also, "more influence than anyone can comprehend", a little dramatic aren't we.
@@baquerka Alright cool. Words are great, I love words. Gotchas? Completely irrelevant points? Semantics? Personal insults? Love it. The actual argument now.
“imagine if the roles were reversed”
THEY ALREADY ARE
Oh they are? Can you link the tweet for me real quick?
@@simplyvibinn5417 yeah ofc! it’s called a textbook. or maybe going outside. society still perceives women as “sluts” for wearing what they want.
@@kiwiscone Oh great, then the tweet that you're referring to where the roles are reversed and a public figure denounces women entirely should be pretty easy to find.
And yes! A history textbook lol. I go outside to run pretty frequently, no slutshaming to be seen yet. All seriousness though, I genuinely just want to understand the actual reality of the claim you're making. How are the roles reversed? I look at "society" and I see nothing but people who whole-heartedly agree that people should wear what they want.
@@simplyvibinn5417 go on the internet, it’s not that hard to find... search up a video abt sex workers or something and see people shame them in the comments
@@simplyvibinn5417 did you consider therapy ? Or just stop living on this earth ? < 3
“We would love it if men would stop sexually harassing us and have some self control”
“Yeah but we made THE PRINTING PRESS!!”
i love how Crowder so frequently debates strawmen that he often ends up making the point he’s trying to disprove and then uploads it to his youtube channel
Watching this all I can think about was how every feminist I know is super supportive of stay-at-home dads and parental leave.
@@marylawrence2218 *OBVIOUSLY* they are.
Like, one of the main points of feminism is giving women the opportunity of having an actual career.
And because support for children (especially kindergarten and daycare) is getting gutted by western nations, raising kids means one of the parents more or less *must* stay at home.
So 1 parent must stay home.
The woman wants a career.
Oh I wonder, who should become the parent staying at home in a hetero-normative relationship.
Also stay-at-home dads are an awesome thing!
When I was a child I basically only saw my dad at the weekends and our relationship is luke-warm at best now that I am an aduld.
My brother-in-law was a stay-at-home-dad and nowadays often works from home and he too says it's so much better than what he experienced with his dad when he was a child.
Sorry for the rant, tl;dr: Crowder is stupid af
Chowder is a master of the self own.
@@Jack-zt1sr but Kaitlyn Bennet is the best self owner of all time 😅
@@THahhhh well there's always a pair
Billie is only 19. She doesn't necessarily have the life experience yet to know how to phrase everything perfectly, but she presents her ideas well for someone so young. She also alludes to the fact that she is a victim of SA herself, so I'm sure she has some strong emotions there. Beating up on her is so lame.
19 year old can have excuses
exactly shes still a teenager and a victim of sa its creepy to judge her every word so intensely. its none of their business
and yeah we all now that she wasn't addressing all men, she was addressing men who thinks its ok to say "you deserve SA because you wore xyz", and crowder took it out of proportion. like ??
Why is she a victim of San Andreas? Isn't she a little too young, considering that game was made for PS2? Guess I'm a victim of SA too then, I'm only like 2 or 3 years older than her. I messed up my homie when we played 2 player (no split screen on San Andreas, so we had to be on same screen). I kept pressing the button to kiss, and it had like a real animation for it. I kissed him a lot. Not in real life though, he was a disgusting person, so I saved my irl kisses for my other homies
@@viktorbirkeland6520????
Billie: Men who sexually assault people are weak.
Old white man: You just don't understand, we're hardwired and can't fight it!
That isnt what she said “ men are weak i think its just easy for them to lose it” so where does she separate the offenders from all men in that statement?
@Chinon Chinan lmao what are you talking about are you pivoting into somthing im not even arguing lmao
@@saulmendez2276 That was the point though. He took those words from an article, without taking the time to read the context and ACTUALLY do research as he was making a big deal about in the beginning, just so that he could make a big fuss about a 'leftist woman' because he had no other news to talk about and couldn't handle a teenager talking about sexual assault and other current world problems. His video was pathetic.
@@saulmendez2276 the old bald guy agreed with her by saying that men cannot help but assault women they find attractive because "it is so hard for them". Lol
@Chinon Chinan aww, this one thinks you have to be mentally insane to SA someone
Him defending men who assault victims just speaks volumes of his character and his up binging. He sounds like he has some mommy issues too.
Billie Eilish: “Men are weak”
Steven Crowder: “N-n-n-o we’re not I’ll prove it by wasting a half hour attacking your middle name with people I hired to laugh at my jokes”
Yo ho ho ho, Crowder is a dum dum.
Exactly
not really what happened
Ouch u are triggered
@@RepentandtrustinChrist-sd8wl relevancy?
The biggest self report in this video is crowder assuming that Billie only sang on her brothers music because of "sex appeal".
She literally started at 13 years old.
Please never leave a serious comment with that profile name and picture.
@@burkles4456 Okay Burkles 🤡
@@burkles4456 okay burkles. what they said was true lol cry more
@@burkles4456 ok bestie
She is an untalented industry plant but yeah she did nothing wrong here
Billie Eilish, "Men are very weak"
Outraged Man in his 30's, "And to prove how strong we are we're going to whine about the mean things a 19 year old said about us"
Well she’s kinda right I mean look at who your getting your information from
@@DrDallas Lmao look at you whining on the internet about something that offended you. Poor baby :(
Tired man on a slow news day: "dumb Y-chromosome lacking person said dumb thing"
FTFY. 19 year olds are adults and in the modern world they also have internet access. There is no excuse for being stupid.
@@korvkorv532 you really don’t see the irony in crying and throwing temper tantrums over the internet about someone who said men are weak
@@korvkorv532 lol your also butthurt she's right lmao
Billie: is literally just minding her goddamn business and living her best life
This guy: and I took that personally
promoted pedophilia at 16 : just living her best life guys omg why everyone so mean 2 her
@@Skittlespillygog what?
@@Skittlespillygog Are you saying a grown man taking advantage of a 16 year old girl is HER promoting pedophilia? She was a child at 16 she had no concept of that because its so easy to be manipulated by an adult as a minor.
@@JayRMW the lyrics to bad guy promote pedophilia. idk what you're talking about.
@@Skittlespillygog Victim-blaming is a bad look
Literally my parents shame me all the time for working and not having children. My dad literally told my I was wasting my only purpose in this world by not having children. I bought my dad a very nice watch for his birthday with my money that I make at my business. He turned to my husband and thanked him. Wtf.
That's so messed up bruh. Take back that watch and sell it since it's your money.
Ouche. I'm so sorry.
yeah no you either need to call him out or cut him off i’m sorry
I would take back that watch and never talk to him again☠
Tf?! Go no contact. This is the only way.
Imagine a masculinity so fragile that you google “inventions by men.”
💀👏
Google inventions by men, to take credit for, vicariously because you were born a man...
Does this work with other things to, like having skin? Can I take credit for what alligators are capable of, just because we both have a form of skin?
Lmfao Ahh yes because women built the society we live in today. Women and men both play important parts in society but women so happen to have the advantage of never having to build it you enjoy the luxury of living in a western society that treats women with respect even though you as a gender haven't contributed shit.
@@nutty_tv2967 I can’t tell if this is satire or if you’re actually this dumb.
@@jebediahrage8273 Yeah, actually, since I can wield a sword, it means I’m a swordsman and need no formal training or anything to take credit for samurais and knights. 🤣
No need to Google it, nearly everything was invented by men
Billie is just a dope person, she exudes coolness. Crowder has such a fragile ego he can't handle any criticism towards any group he identifies with
They love controlling other people so much that they're having a breakdown about girls in dresses.
Bro you need to be skeptical of anyone who exudes anything. Get your shit in order.
This lady is a product someone is selling to you.
@@user-account-not-found any public figure is. doesnt mean you cant respect them in any way
That's my major takeaway from this: utter jealousy that a talented 19 year old woman had the nerve to become famous.
I don't get why people are so hung up on gender roles & gender stereotypes.
Wait why does being attracted to someone automatically means that they lose respect.. I find a lot of men attractive who pose shirtless and still respect them as a human because that's a decent thing to do.
Because the concept of acknowledging women can be both attractive and worthy of respect threatens an emotional basis for the patriarchy, which states that women must be subjugated (or gently but constantly coerced by "well meaning" authoritarian parents) in order to control their sexuality as to prevent foreign males from being lured into attacking the tribe.
The fact that we are beyond such simple societal constructs and are capable of abandoning them and constructing new ways of approaching how sexuality is seen by society also scares authoritarians, who are scared of change, so they maintain the hierarchy.
See here’s the thing, you have empathy unlike conservatives like crowder.
@@fluidthought42 very well said. Crowder is also a “Christian” so he’s definitely a product/victim of purity culture!
because straight male logic is dumb
Wait, Billie Eilish's middle name is pirate? That's kind of badass not gonna lie.
I fucking love Billie!!!
@@iitstre_4550 I'm not a fan, but it's still a cool name.
@@iitstre_4550
*Who ? Billie Jean ?*
She has two middle names.
@@proger1960 ... Is not my lover 🎶
“Women have less pressure” yeah as the first female stem major in my family I 100% agree there’s no pressure at all subverting gender stereotypes in a conservative family thanks stevo much appreciated
did anyone ask
Lmao right?? 😂😂
@@-green-405 mad
@@-green-405 stay pressed
@@angles4307 nice alt lmao
Men really don’t get the concept that women don’t always dress up for them. Some do, but often they don’t.
The whole process of getting dressed up for a night out is just as fun as the night out itself, many girls use it as a social affair. They listen to music, catch up with each other, do each other’s make up and hair etc.
That’s why they don’t do it just to ‘watch game of thrones’. It’s done on special occasions because it makes you feel special, it’s pampering, the getting ready process is a whole thing in itself.
If they really really wanna know the truth more than most times it’s to make other girls jealous. Almost never for men to be attracted to us 😭
@@Elfiegirl how many guys are gonna notice which lipstick shade you are wearing or what earrings :’)
@@Bringon-dw8dx exactlyyy you get it babe
“‘i think men are weak’ imagine if the rolls were reversed” THEY ARE. THEY HAVE BEEN. but yea let’s pretend women have not been called frail and weak forever
lmao ikr
Imagine if......lets say Justin Bieber said “I think women are weak” he would be canceled for months
Yoooo i was looking for this comment lowkey..
okay and you probably were against that so why arent you against it when men are the ones being called weak
@@DrDallas uh oh... not MONTHS. how will he ever recover
cmon bro 😅 this a moot point bc we all know he's said that type shit before
To be fair, we might have had a lot more inventions if men had allowed women to... you know.. receive the same education and opportunities to work.
Come on ignore the lil trump boy not all men think stupid , we know we nothing without woman 💕🙌
Did you know that an Egyptian woman found out that our planet circles the sun in a eclipse. It's not like there were no great woman in history and yes there ain't so many at least known. But there's big difference between the men back than and today. I do not dwell on the past I rather focus on the present and the future. Because it aint fair to blame those dead men's if most of the men's of today are more fair than those back than right? Just wanted to say that because I feel like men's get attacked here(not really but it probably feels uncomfortable to hear men addressed even though they know it doesn't mean them)even though most of them who watch this are actually really nice people
@@JustMeAPotatoe not saying that all men are bad because it's simply not true. But the effects of patriarchy is still evident in all countries. In some countries like- USA, women don't face as much inequality but in some like- Turkey, women will get shot for posting a picture of her face on fb.
@@sagorikaroy3505 Seems like I completely forgot this since I grew up in a community equality with a pretty good equality that I completely overlooked where woman are not treated equally.
@@JustMeAPotatoe yeah as I said, not everywhere it's as severe but still it's visible everywhere
i hate the argument that women don’t dress for themselves in public because “yOu dOnT dREsS thAt wAY at hOmE” when literally NO ONE spends most of their home life in outfits they enjoy. i dress modestly when i leave the house but you don’t see me chillin in bed with my jeans on. like i guess no one dresses for themselves then unless you spend 24/7 in normal clothes
honestly was he expecting her to wear her sweatpants on the COVER of VOGUE
@@drewberriesandcream god if she did that he would make a video about how feminism is making women put less effort into their appearance
Exactly. Men also don't usually dress the same way at home as they do in public. Are they doing it for women? Actually.. These guys probably would say that they do. They are the type to focus everything they do in their lives around becoming more fuckable to women.
And what if we do dress like this at home? What would his argument be?
I spend most of my home time in my PJs (since I currently live alone) and most of the time I don't even wear pajama pants. So yeah, I definitely do not dress in public like I do in my own home. Also, most people also don't dress like they do going to church/court/certain formal workspaces, etc. like they do at home, so I don't know what his point is. Hell, most people don't dress at home like they do in night clubs, if we're talking about the kind of clothing closer to what Billie is wearing.
When I hear the phrase "weak man", it evokes an image of someone who needs to wear a visible gun holster to his job in a podcast studio in order to feel safe and confident, or someone who needs a security team to feel comfortable going to a college campus and chatting college students, or like someone who gets viscerally uncomfortable with the sexual preferences of complete strangers...
Bille ellish who has all those things and made the point your defending 😶. (Not defending crowders point just think its funny you point out his right to own a firearm and a security team to the same level bille has in public)
@@Durrutitv ? Am i wrong did u sniff glue
@@unclebary519 There. I fixed the reply to hold your hand through the critique I was making. It was wrong of me to think that questioning your sobriety was enough to get those synapses firing.
@@Durrutitv i think ur missing dude im literally just making a joke abt bille having security if im being honest i dont know what ur going on abt there really isnt anything to misunderstand or even understand it was a pretty basic and shit joke tbh i didnt even expect a reply im kinda suprised
First of all, it's his show, if he wants wear a gun holster then he can and it's none of your business. Secondly, he's a comedian and his show is full of comedy and jokes, not sure if you noticed that. And thirdly, you do realise that women also have bodyguards and a security team too right? Including Billie Elilish.
Your comment is stupid!
1. The fact that they think staying at home as a parent means you arent providing or protecting means they have no idea what a stay at home parent is doing
2. That they think anyone is being told they can stay at home and not work means they have too much money to be having this conversation for anyone
It’s honestly remarkable how brilliant Hasan’s takes are for practically every subject that is discussed. I love the way he articulates his ideas without the obnoxiousness of a supposed “intellectual”. So glad I stumbled upon his content in the past year.
Same. He validates a lot of my takes and also opens my mind up to new or more well rounded views in an accessible way
He’s come a long way since his “bro tip” days and keeps getting better. I laugh and learn every time I hear this dude.
For the most part yeah. Although I remember watching his streams last year and some of his takes just didn't hit at all. But he is his own person, so I'm not going to agree with him on everything. I do agree about the way he puts across his points though, it's a perfect balance of being educative but also entertaining and easy to understand
@@seby826 Hate crush? Or is it just that Crowder somehow manages to consistently make bad takes that are hard to ignore. He's like Joe Rogan in that he continously manages to say fucked up shit, and given the size of their platforms it's hard for Hasan to ignore (given the content/commentary he produces)
@@vacationbonerschool I agree. Hasan admits it himself. They are just content and he's using his platform to inform people.
Steven is just proving Billie's point
I can’t believe Billie’s middle name is Pirate she was legit set up for success
She also coincidentally resembles Jolene Kujo, and that's a character that was designed around the time that she was born.
Next captain jack sparrow lol
Does this mean I can pirate her music
I think her bro came up with that part of her name.
🤣
Steven: "Women are gonna have to start standing up for what actually matters to them."
Women: *standing up and owning their bodies*
Steven: No, stand up in the way that men want you to, you're hurting my feelings >:,[
Right on the button 👌💯
"Men are weak." ≠ Standing up for your body
@@simplyvibinn5417 so you think men that can’t control themselves enough to not sexually assault other people aren’t weak? Weird.
@@gmano so you think that "men are weak and its so easy for them to lose it" is not somehow directed towards all men?
@@jannemahonen4508 yeah I don’t feel stacked. I know plenty man and guys. Men are really just big children
Let's all remember the fact that this is a grown man getting furious about a 19 year old girl.
This
Bet she's richer than him too, I think it comes from jealousy. He might be feeling confident putting other people down, especially ones doing better than him. That means he can never be confident when he's alone, filled with self hatred. But I don't know anything, it was just my first thoughts.
I hope Billy ignores him, but she's gotten so strong since the start of her career. She might just laugh at him too.
Forget her, he's still upset a woman in some 1990's movies could say "this dress makes men weak" and he felt betrayed when he put on that dress and didn't get hit on.
@@MrYago-xd7um To be honest it's hard to make anything look good when a person is full of shit.
Plus she won a debate with said grown man without even knowing she was in it.
I love the chat massively going "????????" when Crowder brings on Satanism...😄😄😄
Bille : "Men are weak as they have no self control & thinks sexual harassment is normal because of their uncontrollable hormones"
Steven : "but man invented camera, printing press, ink, ooga booga!"
Like where's the correlation Stevie Chowder 😐🤨
@Alias Fakename imagine face of their face when they found out gay man invented computer. They might start a " No homo no computer " movement lmao
@Alias Fakename No circuit board, no screen display, not a modern computer
Just because he’s like, the one example of a gay inventor who invented something actually important, doesn’t mean we need to pretend he invented everything
Did Alan invent the internet too?
10:10 "And men need to do a better job at helping other men deal with that kinda stuff"
Didn't they mock the Gillette commercial for trying to convey exactly that?
Yes they did.
The guy who threw his Gillette into a toilet bowl cracks me up to this day.
that commercials hilarious
I’m sorry but that commercial was dumb as hell🤣
@@freshavocado4755 the commercial itself was on point, it’s just the fact it came from Gillette that made it harder to take seriously.
"Don't say I'm not a role model now because you're turned on by me."
- Billie Eyelash
Steven Chowder knows about as much about sexual assault / harassment as Matt Gaetz knows about how NOT to fly on an airplane to the Caribbean with minors so.
Exactly he knows about this stuff in the same way that I don’t keep my kidneys in a mini fridge in my basement
@@sebdapleb1523 ...you don't?
We don’t have to imagine if it was reversed. This shit is common place, women hear it all day every day our entire lives. 😂
Crowder sitting there looking like a store brand Nathan Drake lecturing everyone on the importance of men in society is really a surreal scene.
Right?
Right he’s the most useless man here
everyday i think my life has reached a new low point but then i remember stepstool croquet is so insecure that an adult woman showing her body is enough to make him angrily spiral into a hissy fit ON CAMERA and everything becomes infinitely less depressing
Stepstool croquet lol
Isn't she like 17 though lol
@@Anthonycheesman33 she’s 19 almost 20
@@uramisugi damn time flies
I think it's her man-hating comments that set everyone off.
other things I agree with.
“You don’t wear a push-up bra and a corset when you are at home binge watching game of thrones”? Buddy you don’t know me and yes I do, I also do it while wearing a full face of makeup, gold eyeshadow and guillotine earrings :))))
period
So you are an aristocrat larper?
g-guillotine earrings? im intrigued
@@maryelizabethp basically took some popsicle sticks and a box cutter blade and glued it together lol have a black one and a neon pink one
@@ASoggyFrootLoop damn that sounds hella dope
...I'm a girl and my parents told me to go into work and not rely on a man and never be a house wife because it makes it that much easier for a man to control you... Many other my other female friends have also has their parents say this. A lot of their mum's are stay at home mums encouraging their daughters to work.
As a woman the conversation my parents had with me was to coverup to protect myself from boys who are weak and dont have self control or else im a sl*t
I swear, my dad acts like me wearing shorts would get me instantly assaulted
@@minale3604 same here
Literally, I had to wear twice my size for years and it still don’t help
do you live in Iraq? because men dont run around raping women in tank tops here in the US
@@jennylee5003 well that’s a lie. Degenerates you in anything. If kid, old folks, animals , and dead bodies get defiled do you really think those kind of men wouldn’t?
"Men aren't weak, they just can't hold back their sexual desires." Lol wtf. Which one is it?
He doesn't even know what he is saying. It is fake outrage!! Like always!!
Yeah... that response was sus af
Is he speaking from experience?
Both
Are conservatives bdsm subs? They say "imagine if the roles were reversed." Alot.
You might be onto something hold on
Id bet money to say they are. They love when they chicks just DESTROY them.
Then they might be switches(verse)…?
PLEASE
I mean Stepstool was wearing a harness the whole time
its so funny that Steven is listing all the things that men invented, when women literally make men.
Uhhh…it takes two people to make a child. Steven’s points are stupid, but so is this one.
Yeah this is a stupid take. Almost bad as Crowder's. Also Men makes men Y chromosome and all
@@beophobic9653 women were surely as important to these inventions as men were to cultivating a foetus.
Men generally are a bit weak in my opinion. But that weakness is brought on by patriarchy and privilege, not genetically or physically.
lol you belong on crowders show
Haha true
Crowder: "We never get that choice"
My dad who stayed home and looked after my brothers and I for 15 years: "Try again"
Men who stay home with the kids are still looked down upon by many people in society. Just because some men have done it doesn't mean we should treat it as easy. It is still something that society needs to make more acceptable.
@@greywolf7577 Agreed...but lets not pretend that people like Crowder are going to get us closer to that point, rather than much farther away.
The argument that "women are more nurturing" is so psychotic to me because it implies that men aren't caring or nurturing at all. It's the ultimate self-own actually.
the self-report kinda sus
This is probably the most retarded statement I’ve seen in a while
@@zacbarnes7299 if in a while you mean....yesterday
I agree. Being nurturing isn't a gender thing, it's how you were raised and how your personality is. My husband is very nurturing, sometimes more than I am. I'm the one that's more prone to anger, and that's because I was raised by a father with untreated anger issues .
While I don't agree with the sentiment, that's not what it's saying. It says women are more nurturing, but men can still be nurturing, just less so.
“We are hard wired for this”
Wow imagine telling on yourself like that
@isabel ward he has had it off for awhile, I don't think he will ever wear it again
Legitimately was shocked when he just openly said that like what a self report my god
Even though I disagree with Steven’s take, I can abstract his reasoning, that primitive humanistic biological urges are amplified during certain empirical processes. Men are physiologically more inclined to have aggressive hormonal tendencies on display , especially regarding these motives, but of course these men are outliers, based on their own interpretations, and discipline, will; to combat against such behavior. it’s even worst if the individual wasn’t conditioned to such ethical and moral instituted practices, based on his environmental growth.
Well technically men are hardwired to be attracted to women that is still no excuse for anything bad happening
So much for men not being weak regarding having self-control LOL. They keep contradicting themselves every step they take.
This guy has totally dismantled everything stupid Crowder was saying.
I love this guy!
“Women have to stand up for what they believe in” literally what Billie Eyelash is doing
I just wish she had found a less sexist way to do it.
@@greywolf7577 how is it sexist
@@vaibhavtomar35 Watch the video again.
@@hexoson She said men who have no self control and harassment or assault others are weak... how is that sexist?
@@greywolf7577 It sounds like you think all men are rapists.
“what if the roles were reversed?” I don’t have to imagine because the roles ARE reversed all the time
Exactly. I hear men saying that women are inferior and weak almost every day, so this is not a situation that we have to imagine lol
FUCKING THANK YOU! 😂 They kill me with this bullshit argument. It’s not a hypothetical question when the roles have *been* reversed for 12,000 years. Lmao! They really think they’re doing something with that question.
Same, I see it constantly on twitter, reddiy, and, especially, youtube
@@botanicalitus4194 I guess you can’t expect much from kids who were basically taught that the world did a big reset after the 1960’s. 🤦🏾♀️ The ignorance is astounding.
@@botanicalitus4194 if you see it on TH-cam more than Reddit than you must be sticking to r/chonkers because Reddit’s redeeming quality is that it is not 4chan, and it is almost as bad
"Without men none of this would be possible" is the WEAKEST take i could imagine.
@FIGHTFANNERD9 it's not tho
@FIGHTFANNERD9 And all of those men... what was the gender of the person who gave birth to them? The person that made their life, and everything they accomplished possible?
@@TheRealHungryHobo a mother and father.
@@drshlotzkin How many people are born without a father there? Lots.
How many people are born without a mother present?
A couple hundred test tube babies maybe.
@FIGHTFANNERD9 No
"If I sound confident and deflect everything with irrelevant information I'll sound more right."
- Steven Crowder.
It’s funny because Steven literally is proving her point further.
“Men aren’t weak and to prove it I’m gonna go on a 30 minute rank about how we’re genetically unable to contain our urges”. Everything Crowder said is legitimately more Anti-Men than anything Billie said.
If Billie Eilish is a Satanist, then we definitely need an Eilish/Lil Nas X collab
Man I don't think LA would be able to contain the firestorm that drop would cause.
@@rtmpgt that would be _hell on earth_ 💀
That would be so fucking amazing
Yes that's an awesome idea!
If that were to happen I don't think Republicans/Conservatives would be able to recover....let's do it
I'm glad Steven has found his identity as a dollar store Nathan Drake
Steven crowder and his friend be like "men don't rape cause they're weak we do it cause we're strong💪"
No?
@@Killspec Yes?
lol Yeah! He needs to rip the windshield wipers off his car if a lady invented them!
@@matthewbliss4115 the likes lol, feels like reddit. But I mean like in all actuality, I don't believe Steven Crowder to be a rapist, and I can't think of a better reason for why labelling him as one and gets you this much support other than identity politics/social conformity. Genuinely do not understand why anyone would die on that hill. If Steven Crowder is a rapist, please educate me.
@@saem369 the fuck was the point? Crowder did not make that claim whatsoever. How does this shit slide at all lmao
Was his defense about her saying they have no control..... Basically that they don't have control? I am so confused right now.
Me, channeling Bernie Sanders: "I am once again asking you to please stop trying to use the 'I'm a Man, I Can't Help It,' trope in real life."
It's because Eilish dared to question or challenge male heterosexuality, a no-no in authoritarian culture. So Crowder, interpretating this as an attack of sorts as authoritarians do, then responds to this with a fight or flight response, so he has to attack Eilish (despite it betraying his feeling of being threatened) and at the same time try to run from her logic to justify the status quo (ie flight).
So he has to frame men's sexuality as a source of strength, and women's sexuality as a source of weakness and inferiority.
In his mind, he was arguing against her. In reality, it was the spider-man pointing at spider-man. Like, my dude, you’re making the same *fucking argument!*
It’s because his masculinity felt attacked😂 his own ego his own tribe!!! Eilish said that men are weak if they have no self control and disrespect women and he was like “WAAAAHHH!!! u know, it’s hard to control myself :( I don’t try because I know it’s impossible. It’s not that I’m weak, it’s in my nature” cuz to him masculinity is about not being weak or vulnerable or open in any way. I rolled my eyes so hard at the fact that he cares more about his own ego that the victims of SA and the fact that men who SA someone are stupid!!!!! ...unless he sees them as normals... normal male behavior is disrespecting a woman that wants to be free and be whoever she wants to be!!!!!
U see a guy walking out without his shirt on {nipples exposed} and no one gives a fuck!!!!! No one is gonna tell him to cover himself up or they won’t be respected!!!!! If a guy is sweaty after playing a soccer, they can take off their shirt and no one is claiming that their disrespect and sex drive is on full blast autopilot NOBODY WILL SAY ANYTHING because we’re used to it. Women in some countries don’t even wear tops or bras or ANYTHING and they are respected by their own people. And they are still treated like humans and not objects!!!!!
@@zm4362
Everyone expects gay men not to sexually harass shirtless men or men in general period, but expecting the same standard of behavior toward women from straight men is considered, on some level, unreasonable by Crowder
I wear my corset almost all day everyday. Because I don't like bras and I enjoy the back support. I do my makeup and get dressed up just to do chores because I have depression and getting dressed is an easy place to start my day and makes me feel good. I never leave the house except to go grocery shopping. So. Am I walking around my house dressed up just because there's an off chance a man might knock on door? What?
Do you have any advice on ways to make yourself get out of bed and actually do things? I spend nearly all my time in bed and I fucking hate it because I have so many things I want to do but can’t ever muster up motivation. I’m so tired of forcing myself to do everything. Just once I want to wake up and want to get out of bed.
@@trevordavis8210 Hey I'm sorry I'm not the OP, but I find just sometimes propping yourself up on your pillows or even something as small as turning over as soon as you wake up is a good first step. But always remember to take everything a step at a time. Just make sure you know your own pace and dont try to take on too much at once.
@@trevordavis8210 play some nice music and start small, count down and don’t think about it; “on 3, im gonna get up and throw that cup away…1, 2, 3!” and do it
corsets can do that? think i might need one now dude thats awesome
Same with me
I told my wife it was ok to be a stay at home mom, then she reminded me that we have bills and its fucking impossible to run a family on a single income. But keep comparing women today to women in the 1950's Crowder
His ability to be so overly fixtated on one sentence without reading the rest of the point she's making is almost impressive
Edit: meant overly fixtated not hyperfixated
Isn't that just a prerequisite for conservatives?
If a male celebrity had said "women are weak", you know Feminist sites would hyperfixate on that regardless of what he said next.
@@greywolf7577 who said they wouldn’t
I thought synthesizing the whole text was expected of grade schoolers. Isnt it something we had to do for FCAT?
@@greywolf7577
In the context of sexual assault, no. No woman would find that fact upsetting. Because guess what? Women can sexually assault people, too. And those that do, are...
**drumroll**
...
...weak.
Steven crowder is the 2021 version of guys that created the countdown to Natalie Portman turning 18 when she was 13
They were on a radio show btw
Lol it's so true. Just outing himself for a whole hour.
And guys like EDP445 don't even wait. 😂
they're gonna play that clip of that dude saying "it's so hard for men to have self control" in court someday
100%
Would it be tasteless to do a betting pool of how many of his women guest speakers/employees he did a Roger Ailes with?
@@ScorpionViper1001 probably not
He’s gonna play it himself one day when he goes to court. Lol
@@ScorpionViper1001 Sorry, but what is "doing a Roger Ailes"??
I love how the only reason they disagree is cause Billie called men weak like it fractured their already shaky male ego
She actually looked gorgeous.
Seriously! She rocked her outfit; Steven is just upset that she’s owning herself and becoming secure in her identity
Yeah it wasn't even that deep lol
Yeah it’s fantastic she’s doing what she wants and is comfortable with and owning it. Great for her and great for her as a role model.
She kind of looks like Scarlett Johansson
Subjective.
Billie Eilish is no cap one of the coolest most chill people on Earth, male or female. She makes these fools look like clowns
Fr
Agreed.
You mean to say that KKK Nathan drake isn't the coolest person on earth?
@Hawra Ahmed I mean I’m pretty sure she has literal depression and it’s more of a motif in her music than a quirk
Your dumb. She's clueless. She's never been touched. But she will feed of the weak and abused for fan club just like males weak males do she's no different
Hasan you don’t understand how satisfying it is to have someone like you be so many people’s “anger translator” to subjects like this. Thank you.
As a woman I get so sick and tired of men being like “women are better at being parents and home makers” like that’s all we are lmaooo
I like how the framing when it comes to men taking responsibility for sexual misconduct they say, "it's impossible to control no matter what the woman is wearing," but 5 minutes later when they talk about how a woman wants to be perceived they literally say the opposite. No awareness of the double standard they just created lol.
Chowder is just salty cause he would love to rock Billie’s outfit from the shoot but knows he could never pull it off.
Idk if Chowder was a typo or not but I’m only calling him Stepstool Chowder from now on
from what i understand, her point is that people who say "oh you cant wear that and not expect men to do x" is basically THEM calling men weak with 0 self control. so crowder literally is just proving her point.
Did he say that quote though?
@@simplyvibinn5417 Steven crowder read the start and lost it so I’m assuming he just ignored the rest of Billie’s point. he just cherry picked so not a good commentary of her interview since he doesn’t even read the whole thing or just doesn’t understand it loll
@@simplyvibinn5417 It’s called paraphrasing… Also textual comprehension and inference.
Sometimes I forget how young Billie is. Maybe it's because she's so successful but that just blows over my head.
Billie Eilish literally had an experience with this but Steven crowder knows better I guess?
Well he was probably on the other end a couple times, if ya catch my drift.
Stepstool Crowder the woman understander has logged on
person: *puts on a corset*
crowder: "this person is devoid of love compassion responsibility morals empathy"
Billie: rape bad
Steven: BUT DID YOU KNOW TIM COOK INVENTED THE iPHONE?!?!??!?
Correction: Tim Apple
Strawman, not what he was responding to at all
@@simplyvibinn5417 yes it was. Watch the video
Steven: women need to start standing up for the things that are actually important to them
Billie Eilish: does exactly that in a vogue interview
Steven: WHATTHEFUCKSHESASLUT
Isn't it funny how Billie had more body coverage in that photoshoot than most swimsuits you see at a neighborhood pool.