as far as diverters, there's probably many fewer issues in Portland than Ohio. even in the dead of winter, an average night in Portland is still distinctly above freezing. you'd only have to disconnect them a couple times a year. lots of rain, but minimal cold. even noting the big ice storm we got in Oregon last year, i wouldn't be all that worried.
I was initially introduced to designs like this some years ago through Kirsten Dirksen, Andrew Millicent, Flock Finger Lakes, and random earthship videos. I really like your format in that you break the spectacle of a Kirsten video down to it's parts and go into more detail as to why. It feels like this is a presentation I would hear at a town development proposal and I think that is a good thing.
its been going strong for a while now. And, I dont think theres anyone thats replicated the model in portland, so I guess its not the future. I'd love to see more new construction, or even affordable housing, follow the model. I also think 2-5 year contracts for a portion of the household to farm the land would lead to better use and productivity.
Kailash is the abode of Lord Shiva in the Hindu religion and mythology, and Mt Kailash in the Himalayas is one of the holiest places in the subcontinent, sacred to 4 different religions. it is also the source of 4 major rivers. I am kinda impressed a western company is using the name.
It's a Kailash "intersection repair" event open to participants from surrounding homes. Portland is big on these. www.kailashecovillage.org/intersectionrepair
a cool look at this place, but they already appear to be doing what you're suggesting, with the neighboring apartment building currently in the very early stages of converting to a 'sister ecovillage' I don't really know any details, but noticed it when looking this place up on google maps and was surprised it went unmentioned
Good catch! Annapurna Ecovillage is not mentioned on the Kailash site, but Kailash's owner bought it mid-2023. It was in BAD shape, and much bigger than Kailash. Edit: I'll post a video update on this soon. Can't wait for my condensed version? See long discussion at th-cam.com/video/yDq3FPJvzio/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zCXUUaPWDP3FcidK
It is more environmentally friendly to leave cultivation to the experts and to build housing in place of mini gardens, thereby creating denser and more compact cities, which can help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
No, shipping, processing, and industrial agriculture are exponentially more wasteful than community / victory gardens , buying from local farms, and increasing self reliance of our community.
@@tsib6703 Much of our industrial agriculture is dedicated to cattle feed, by our high beef consumption. Since changing our diets seems unlikely we need forget mini farms, as they would only increase our cities' car dependence and, consequently, their reliance on fossil fuels.
@ I don’t see how mini farms would INCREASE car dependence. Having food to eat in my yard and locally raised beef in the store or farmers market is overall a massive reduction in transportation and fossil fuel spend compared to shipping these commodities from industrial agriculture hubs. Micro farms increase self reliance, reduce consumption and travel, increase food security and therefor resilience of our communities
My problem is that the apartment building looks like a cockroach infested dump for the poorest of the poor. Why can’t there be ecological AND ASCETICALLY PLEASING architecture to live in? 🙃
@scottduke2809 Love the speech-to-text irony! To your point: the innovation has mostly happened downmarket (will discuss an exception next time), but the opportunity is indeed vast on the high end. See th-cam.com/video/dwv5BesKq8I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HcCXQwCf8DC-9tZv
@ but not too high end i hope… i live in miami so i see how too much luxury is not good. Having grown up in Oregon I understand the “hippie” stigma that comes with these types of projects and i don’t see it ever being taken seriously until it can escape those social stereotypes
32 units. No offense (I really respect what they're doing.) but this is not going to be implemented in a serious way throughout the country. This Nation just reelected Trump after all. People love their individualism and many deplore."socialism," "communism," and "environmentalism." The climate change ride isn't going to be fun, nor averted.
The only issue I see is the price of living there and the fact you can't have cats or dogs, I hope they make exceptions for Emotional support animals. And are you allowed to eat meat there or are they gonna knock on your door like the vegan police to stop you from eating meat LMAO 🤔
It would be sad enough if you had merely arrived with a negative opinion, but it appears that you haven't even bothered to watch the video - the other replies to your comment point out why you are wrong. Besides, what is failure? They've been going this long, they've been doing good for themselves, the environment and the community in all those years - if for whatever reason it ended in a couple of years or in fifty and returned to being standard housing with no food growing etc, they would still have done better than not having started the venture in the first place.
I definitely like the idea of existing projects helping to start new projects. Lots of finicky details of course, but still a worthwhile goal.
as far as diverters, there's probably many fewer issues in Portland than Ohio. even in the dead of winter, an average night in Portland is still distinctly above freezing. you'd only have to disconnect them a couple times a year. lots of rain, but minimal cold. even noting the big ice storm we got in Oregon last year, i wouldn't be all that worried.
I was initially introduced to designs like this some years ago through Kirsten Dirksen, Andrew Millicent, Flock Finger Lakes, and random earthship videos. I really like your format in that you break the spectacle of a Kirsten video down to it's parts and go into more detail as to why. It feels like this is a presentation I would hear at a town development proposal and I think that is a good thing.
I wonder what the feasibility is for a similar idea in a place like Detroit.
DUDE I WOULD LOVE THAT !!
Cool place!
its been going strong for a while now. And, I dont think theres anyone thats replicated the model in portland, so I guess its not the future. I'd love to see more new construction, or even affordable housing, follow the model. I also think 2-5 year contracts for a portion of the household to farm the land would lead to better use and productivity.
Kailash is the abode of Lord Shiva in the Hindu religion and mythology, and Mt Kailash in the Himalayas is one of the holiest places in the subcontinent, sacred to 4 different religions. it is also the source of 4 major rivers. I am kinda impressed a western company is using the name.
But living in a walkable, sustainable community and not having to drive everywhere to get what you need is apparently fashy 🤷♂️
11:45 "No Dogs"?? (lower left)
It's a Kailash "intersection repair" event open to participants from surrounding homes. Portland is big on these. www.kailashecovillage.org/intersectionrepair
@@edenicity
right on! thanks for clarifying that.
i was thinking it was just another "rules for everybody except the elite" scenario.
a cool look at this place, but they already appear to be doing what you're suggesting, with the neighboring apartment building currently in the very early stages of converting to a 'sister ecovillage'
I don't really know any details, but noticed it when looking this place up on google maps and was surprised it went unmentioned
Good catch! Annapurna Ecovillage is not mentioned on the Kailash site, but Kailash's owner bought it mid-2023. It was in BAD shape, and much bigger than Kailash. Edit: I'll post a video update on this soon. Can't wait for my condensed version? See long discussion at th-cam.com/video/yDq3FPJvzio/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zCXUUaPWDP3FcidK
They thought this was the future in the past. Suburbs were called ‘garden suburbs’ for a reason. Every urbanist is a utopian it seems.
Who can afford to live there?
The rental pricing here is slightly below market for the area
Rewild!
Did I hear you correctly trhat being vegan is a requirement???? Isn't that an extreme demand????
Not once you realize it's not as difficult as we've been led to believe.
Both incorrect, the poop is safer for recycling that away.
Hippies
@@PodcastOnTheSpectrum dirty but intriguing people
I live here and I can attest I’m not a hippy but I’m very earth conscious..this is something anyone can do.
It is more environmentally friendly to leave cultivation to the experts and to build housing in place of mini gardens, thereby creating denser and more compact cities, which can help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
No, shipping, processing, and industrial agriculture are exponentially more wasteful than community / victory gardens , buying from local farms, and increasing self reliance of our community.
@@tsib6703 Much of our industrial agriculture is dedicated to cattle feed, by our high beef consumption. Since changing our diets seems unlikely we need forget mini farms, as they would only increase our cities' car dependence and, consequently, their reliance on fossil fuels.
@@daikon711 can you explain how mini farms make us car dependent? Because that’s not my experience. The farm community in the vid is car-less.
@ I don’t see how mini farms would INCREASE car dependence. Having food to eat in my yard and locally raised beef in the store or farmers market is overall a massive reduction in transportation and fossil fuel spend compared to shipping these commodities from industrial agriculture hubs. Micro farms increase self reliance, reduce consumption and travel, increase food security and therefor resilience of our communities
My problem is that the apartment building looks like a cockroach infested dump for the poorest of the poor. Why can’t there be ecological AND ASCETICALLY PLEASING architecture to live in? 🙃
@scottduke2809 Love the speech-to-text irony! To your point: the innovation has mostly happened downmarket (will discuss an exception next time), but the opportunity is indeed vast on the high end. See th-cam.com/video/dwv5BesKq8I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HcCXQwCf8DC-9tZv
@ but not too high end i hope… i live in miami so i see how too much luxury is not good. Having grown up in Oregon I understand the “hippie” stigma that comes with these types of projects and i don’t see it ever being taken seriously until it can escape those social stereotypes
32 units. No offense (I really respect what they're doing.) but this is not going to be implemented in a serious way throughout the country. This Nation just reelected Trump after all. People love their individualism and many deplore."socialism," "communism," and "environmentalism." The climate change ride isn't going to be fun, nor averted.
The only issue I see is the price of living there and the fact you can't have cats or dogs, I hope they make exceptions for Emotional support animals. And are you allowed to eat meat there or are they gonna knock on your door like the vegan police to stop you from eating meat LMAO 🤔
Is this yet another commune that will fail?
Looks like they've been going since 2007 so they're at least off to a good start.
Yes, Kailash is almost 20 years going.
They'll stop failing when corps stop forcing people to live like nature-less robots ( as it applies ).
They're so popular the waitlist is years long...
It would be sad enough if you had merely arrived with a negative opinion, but it appears that you haven't even bothered to watch the video - the other replies to your comment point out why you are wrong. Besides, what is failure? They've been going this long, they've been doing good for themselves, the environment and the community in all those years - if for whatever reason it ended in a couple of years or in fifty and returned to being standard housing with no food growing etc, they would still have done better than not having started the venture in the first place.
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