Legend. The look on your face at the end, as you show the flexibility of the cable, after all of those great features. ..The look of a man that wanted something that didn't quite exist yet; made it himself, made it available for others, and re-remembered how freakin' cool it is as he describes it. Well done my brother, your hard work is motivating Mr. Dave Rat. Do your thing baby!!!
Been subscribed for years and you are an inspiration to me. Fantastic work man, I have to say, the pro audio industry has been needing this advancement for years now. buying this for my live rig as soon as I have some overhead man. keep it up.
Incredible stuff Dave, keep it up! And thanks for all your other videos on gain staging and mixing into compression with groups and whatnot, they've helped a lot.
In live sound, three out of four faults will be the result cable failures. Love your cables. Treat them with respect. Give them a wipe when you get them home. Cables are your friend. Ethernet means a *lot* of channels down one cable. Loads of people won't touch audio over ethernet because ethernet was made for offices, and is prone to being very fragile in a harsh environment on the road.
This is CatRat cable! Product looks super cool Dave. The talcum in the jacket is good for installs as it makes the cable easier to pull. Didn't know it makes it less rugged and is undesirable for rental work - today I learned :)
This is great stuff for a touring/temporary environment. I'm looking forward to buying some, but how does it fare for installation use? What type of polyurethane is it and is it riser or plenum rated? If so, I just found a new home project. Love your informative videos and other helpful products!
Have tried this as a cat for DiGiCo consoles? I know that DiGiCos seem to have very specific needs when it comes to their cat that goes to their D and D2 racks. DiGiCo themselves specify Van Damme Tourcat.
Polyurethane is much better than PVC, particularly talc-impregnated PVC. Most suitable audio cable jacket I've encountered in common use is polychloroprene, aka PC-rubber or neoprene. Highly chemical resistant and also UV resistant. Wherever possible I spec mic/line cables with neoprene jacketing. Some sorts of polyurethane can go sticky when exposed to UV, and also as a thermoplastic rather than a thermoset will melt rather than char in heat failure. Definitely hugely preferable to vanilla Cat5, and as you have stated, getting high spec ethernet for staging is very difficult. Industrial cables from the mining industry can also be found jacketed with crosslinked CPE or thermoplastic CPE. Undersea data is a well serviced industry, as is undersea mining. Some of their ultra-rugged high amperage connectors are *lovely* . Until you look at the price tag.
These are the UK heavy industrial guys who do cabling for oil & gas, mining, transport (London underground etc) was called north west cables until 2008 rolled around. Might be worth having a chat to them also about what they could cook up for sound tools... tratosgroup.com/tratos-in-the-world/tratos-united-kingdom/
Hey Dave, This isn't related to the video, but when you're doing live sound in an arena or large room, how do you go about identifying resonating frequencies? I seem to have a difficult time picking them out. Thanks!!
Hi Dave I just brought a supercat from rat sound but unfortunately I have sync problem with the Midas M series, the cable work well with Yamaha Cl5 (dante) or Midas Pro series. I wanna know why? Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
I really like M12 industrial connectors rather than RJ45. When designing a venue or outdoor install, I like to have M12s and then replaceable M12 to RJ45 tails for the equipment. M12 is the standard ethernet socket found in grimy heavy industrial settings. uk.farnell.com/m12-industrial-ethernet-connection
Dumb question: seems like the rugged-ness of these is the main feature--if that's the case, what about using some of those Neutrik RJ45 cable shells? Is there a reason you prefer M12 to those? (Link: www.redco.com/Neutrik-NE8MX6-Cat6a-Cable-Shell.html)
we do have a distributer in Norway, Creative Entertainment Solutions. post@cesolutions.no give them a shout. we are just now preparing reels to ship out along with samples. and thank you!
It isn't just the knowledge, it's the "pro tip" applications and little refinements that really make for an exceptional operator. The man's real-deal. Also, as anybody who works in live sound will tell you, holding onto your manners and always being cheerful and polite, it's not easy to make it look so easy. Lots to learn from Dr Rat.
Legend. The look on your face at the end, as you show the flexibility of the cable, after all of those great features. ..The look of a man that wanted something that didn't quite exist yet; made it himself, made it available for others, and re-remembered how freakin' cool it is as he describes it. Well done my brother, your hard work is motivating Mr. Dave Rat. Do your thing baby!!!
OMG, I just imagine how many production steps each of those cables undergoes. Now that is quality in design and production. Bravo.
Been subscribed for years and you are an inspiration to me. Fantastic work man, I have to say, the pro audio industry has been needing this advancement for years now. buying this for my live rig as soon as I have some overhead man. keep it up.
Incredible stuff Dave, keep it up! And thanks for all your other videos on gain staging and mixing into compression with groups and whatnot, they've helped a lot.
A man truly loving his cable. Great design. Congratulations.
In live sound, three out of four faults will be the result cable failures. Love your cables. Treat them with respect. Give them a wipe when you get them home. Cables are your friend.
Ethernet means a *lot* of channels down one cable.
Loads of people won't touch audio over ethernet because ethernet was made for offices, and is prone to being very fragile in a harsh environment on the road.
This is CatRat cable! Product looks super cool Dave. The talcum in the jacket is good for installs as it makes the cable easier to pull. Didn't know it makes it less rugged and is undesirable for rental work - today I learned :)
Stranded wire
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Thanks Dave for sharing your incredible knowledge!
hi! would it be possible to share the color order of the cable tail and should it be the same order for both end tails ?
It's posted on the SoundTools.com web site
Magnificent stuff!
Impressed!
Thank you
With its larger diameter, does it still terminate to EtherCON fairly easily?
yes, EtherCON is rated up to 8mm and terminating is not a problem to EtherCON.
I’m guessing IEC would have to create a new spec for this cabling.
So, are these capable of passing phantom power?
Yes
Hi Dave, Love your stuff.
Do you believe Cat will replace and make traditional analogue cable redundant in future? If so how long?
This is great stuff for a touring/temporary environment. I'm looking forward to buying some, but how does it fare for installation use? What type of polyurethane is it and is it riser or plenum rated? If so, I just found a new home project.
Love your informative videos and other helpful products!
Have tried this as a cat for DiGiCo consoles? I know that DiGiCos seem to have very specific needs when it comes to their cat that goes to their D and D2 racks. DiGiCo themselves specify Van Damme Tourcat.
Check the MHz specs on the cable and manufacturer when deciding which cable will work for what purpose
Polyurethane is much better than PVC, particularly talc-impregnated PVC.
Most suitable audio cable jacket I've encountered in common use is polychloroprene, aka PC-rubber or neoprene. Highly chemical resistant and also UV resistant. Wherever possible I spec mic/line cables with neoprene jacketing.
Some sorts of polyurethane can go sticky when exposed to UV, and also as a thermoplastic rather than a thermoset will melt rather than char in heat failure. Definitely hugely preferable to vanilla Cat5, and as you have stated, getting high spec ethernet for staging is very difficult.
Industrial cables from the mining industry can also be found jacketed with crosslinked CPE or thermoplastic CPE. Undersea data is a well serviced industry, as is undersea mining. Some of their ultra-rugged high amperage connectors are *lovely* . Until you look at the price tag.
These are the UK heavy industrial guys who do cabling for oil & gas, mining, transport (London underground etc) was called north west cables until 2008 rolled around. Might be worth having a chat to them also about what they could cook up for sound tools... tratosgroup.com/tratos-in-the-world/tratos-united-kingdom/
Hi Dave. I am making my own audio cat5 to XLR cable and I wondered if you could send 48v down them.
Wow, a lot more than meets the eye with these cables then. Seems like for once the Rat got the Cat! :-)
Do You have a distributor in Europe near by Hungary? Thank You!
Amazing cable!
Hey Dave,
This isn't related to the video, but when you're doing live sound in an arena or large room, how do you go about identifying resonating frequencies? I seem to have a difficult time picking them out. Thanks!!
Identifying and dealing with acoustic problems in sound reinforcement situations would be a really great set of videos.
Hi Dave I just brought a supercat from rat sound but unfortunately I have sync problem with the Midas M series, the cable work well with Yamaha Cl5 (dante) or Midas Pro series. I wanna know why? Hope to hear from you. Thanks.
Hello behringer! You can stop hiding behind that midas logo...
Will you be selling it in bulk/by the spool for those who want do their own custom lengths?
yes, on reel, off reel, terminated or un terminated. we just got the first batch in last week. give a shout to sales@ratsoumd.com for more info
Will you be making 16 channel snakes with this new cabling at some point?
we are loving into 8 and 12 ch
I really like M12 industrial connectors rather than RJ45. When designing a venue or outdoor install, I like to have M12s and then replaceable M12 to RJ45 tails for the equipment.
M12 is the standard ethernet socket found in grimy heavy industrial settings. uk.farnell.com/m12-industrial-ethernet-connection
Yes, very cool
Dumb question: seems like the rugged-ness of these is the main feature--if that's the case, what about using some of those Neutrik RJ45 cable shells? Is there a reason you prefer M12 to those? (Link: www.redco.com/Neutrik-NE8MX6-Cat6a-Cable-Shell.html)
is it stranded or a solid wire
What brand is the cable you order is it made in the us every cool stuff
It is our own cable design, SoundTools brand
+Paul Wilson very cool, we can try, shoot me an email at dave.rat@ratsound.com and will see what we can do.
Do you have a distributor in Norway? I think I need this.
we do have a distributer in Norway, Creative Entertainment Solutions. post@cesolutions.no
give them a shout. we are just now preparing reels to ship out along with samples.
and thank you!
Which Jokari model cable stripper is that?
I think it's a 30600
What is the cost per foot?
depends on length and whether it is terminated, and / or on a reel. shoot an email to sales@ratsound.com and they can get you pricing.
Nice cable, can I receive a free sample of the blue and purple one? Thanks in advance!
Julian, thank you for your interest! Please submit a request here: form.jotform.com/70944328957974
I hope you didn't click on this link. It is obviously fake
Stranded copper I assume?
yes, stranded, oxygen free copper wire
If heard that sense your not touring right now. That you will be working on new products speakers and gear.
This is true
@@DaveRat Moar new tech! Moar vidjeos!
@@weareallbeingwatched4602 I am doing them! 4 videos up in the last few weeks and more to come
i wish i knew a quarter of what you know abt sound...........
It isn't just the knowledge, it's the "pro tip" applications and little refinements that really make for an exceptional operator. The man's real-deal. Also, as anybody who works in live sound will tell you, holding onto your manners and always being cheerful and polite, it's not easy to make it look so easy. Lots to learn from Dr Rat.