I am usually not interested in buying these products, but I want to be up to date which is the best value gear in this market segment, and how these manufacturers behave and develop over time. Best trusted channel.
I have been using the MX3s on my desktop for a bit over 3 weeks now. The previous speakers that sat there for 10 years were a pair of M-Audio AV40s which were dying of heat death. New system: MX3s, Jamo S803s sitting on top of Isoacoustics stands. I am always within 1 to 2 meters in a small room. I love it. I do not think I would shy away at putting much more expensive speakers on this amp. Yep, remote beam is a bit narrow but the functions are nice and simple. Being a One knob controller, keep the instructions close for a while. I think the knob contains all functions that are possible. Tone controls are nicely stepped. I agree with iiWi about the sound dimensions. Speaker placement is a good cure. I wanted a nice little device for the desk. I use the Bluetooth for a Firestick plugged into my monitor. For music my Grado SR80s sound great through this amp, and my everyday old and durable ATH M50x sound their best I have heard out of for casual listening/gaming.
I've been running the original MX3 for a couple years as my desktop sound hub. It's been a great solution. I'm glad to see you cover the follow-up and DEFINITELY want to see any All-in-One alternatives if you see any worthy.
Can I suggest some stuff for you to review? No pressure just heads up. Fosi V3 amp. (Op-amps changeable). Get the version with 48v power supply. S.m.s.l m300se. A cirrus mobile dac chip in a desktop dac. iBasso DC04 pro. A surprisingly good dongle dac for the Money.
I've been thinking of getting one of these for a desktop computer setup for one of my son's. It would be easy to setup on a desk to drive speakers and headphones.
Got one of these to replace a very, very, very old set of computer speakers that I was limping with for way too long. First foray into "real" audio gear. Overall very happy with it so far. It does what it says it will do and it's no nonsense. The display is especially good for me - amps should be heard, not seen, and the amber + idle display sleep just makes sense. Bluetooth is more than good enough for the devices you'd ever be using with that. I can think of some small improvements they should make, but it's nitpicky stuff. The only thing Topping (or anyone, really) should do is maybe make a bigger brother to this product. Maybe better amp + DAC for those who want that, a bit more power to drive more speakers, and DSP/LPF for the sub-out, and a few other minor quality of life things. Something that would be competent either in the loungeroom or at the desk. Just my 2c :)
Also what about the new E10 from Fosi Audio or the TPA-S120 from Audiophonics, for 200 and 220euros respectively? Much more powerful, internal power supplies, usb, optical, coaxial, sub out, bluetooth, remote. Unfortunately, no headphone out but you can get a decent one for another 40 and you're set...The TPA-S120 especially, has the TPA3255 op amps and an ESS Dac.
Hello Srbolyub. I really love watching your channel. You are one of those people who know how to correctly describe the sound of the equipment. And I listen to your opinion about the sound of certain devices . Now I have a question for you. I have 2 amplifiers. One Sansui AU-a607i amplifier (Class AB), the second SMSL AO200 amplifier(Class D). If we compare their sound, the SMSL amplifier plays more flatly. The Sansui amplifier has a wider stage and a much better afterglow. The instruments sound more natural. Otherwise, the SMSL AO200 is a good, not expensive amplifier. Now I have noticed an expensive amplifier from SMSL, this is the SA400 model. Judging by the reviews and reviews, it sounds better than the AO200. I know that there was no review of the SA400 model on your channel, but maybe you heard its sound somewhere. Can you advise me whether it is worth buying this model? Does it have an improved sound compared to the AO200 ? I am interested in exactly the parameters that I described: afterglow, naturalness and volume of the scene. I wish you all the best in advance, success in your business and excellent sound!!! Thank you.
Hello, I love the way you explained the sound of components. My question is when I use line 1 to play my cd player on the smsl a300, is the dac on, or is there a way to turn the dac on & off, I purchased the a300 because of you’re review, it is a very good preamp
Also, how about he new E10 from Fosi Audio or the TPA-S120 from Audiophonics, for 200 and 220euros respectively? Much more powerful, internal power supplies, usb, optical, coaxial, sub out, bluetooth, remote. Unfortunately, no headphone out, but you can get a decent head amp for another 40 and also that both aren't desktop sized. The TPA-S120 especially, has the TPA3255 op amps and an ESS Dac.
The new Fosi Audio E10 integrated at 200euros is at least on paper, a much better amp. Class D of course, internal power supply, 2x125W@4ohm, USB, optical, coaxial, 2pairs of rca, bluetooth and sub out. Unfortunately no headphone out. Same with the Audiophonics TPA-S120 at 220euros, which seems to carry a better DAC.
A300/200 have more power I use them with an Su-1 which is quite a bargain compared to amplifiers below 1000 dollar.. But the MX3 is attractive for the size, price and integration and the DAC is better than in the A300/200.
In that case you don't need an amplifier (active speakers already have it inside) but a DAC only like Topping DX3 pro plus or FX-Audio DR07 that I just reviewed ten days ago. Take a look at those.
No, it's simply the wrong device for active speakers. You get parts that you don't need (yet you still pay for them) and lack something that you need... And you need line level connection (RCA) output for active speakers, headphone out for headphones, and BT... The solution is one of these devices I suggested in the previous post. They have everything you need and their DAC and headphone amp are much better, because no budget was spent on speaker amplifier like in MX3 devices (a part that can't be used with active speakers, because it in them already).
@@iiWiReviews Many thanks for the explanation. My active speaker is HK Soundsticks 4 with only Aux input, so the rca output from DX3pro+ will be connected to the aux input using rca to jack adapter right? The other one is Edifier 1280bts with many options of input. Is the configuration of dx3pro+ with my active speakers will be safe (no damage to the speakers)? I don't really understand, I love the sound quality fron the dac/amp but don't understand how it works.
@@TheNobleFive Am I missing something here? The amp has 3 modes, Speaker, Headphone, Speaker & Headpnone. Per the manual, "Power amp output includes subwoofer output and speaker output."
If it works like the MX3, which I think it does, then yes. However the speaker outputs would also be running. Also the subwoofer output is tied to the volume control but does not have a crossover so keep that in mind.
I have it, it's really good. I expected it to run hot but it didn't. Also agree on the remote, Topping could work a bit on it to make it more sensitive.. MX3s is cleaner in its audio than A300, which can send a bit rubbish into the treble, especially if the screen is fully lit
@@donatj I mostly use the remote but all of it works just like it did with the Topping DX3 Pro+ DAC I used to own. I find them easier to use with the remote, not a big fan of holding in buttons for longer periods of time
"which can send a bit rubbish into the treble, especially if the screen is fully lit" - You are saying the sound of the A300 is affected by turning up the display brightness??
I agree with you when it comes to an independent room HiFi setup. For desktop environment I feel that your PC is that source and for many PC specific uses, like gaming, audio or video editing, etc. it can't even be replaced with any other source.
I think the majority of people don't know what is "sensation of empty space around the instruments" or "edges of notes" , fancy names but inutile if people struggle to understand what are you talking about .... Also I think that you have to tell us if your videos are sponsored by SMSL / TOPPING /ecc.
I am usually not interested in buying these products, but I want to be up to date which is the best value gear in this market segment, and how these manufacturers behave and develop over time. Best trusted channel.
I have been using the MX3s on my desktop for a bit over 3 weeks now. The previous speakers that sat there for 10 years were a pair of M-Audio AV40s which were dying of heat death.
New system: MX3s, Jamo S803s sitting on top of Isoacoustics stands. I am always within 1 to 2 meters in a small room. I love it. I do not think I would shy away at putting much more expensive speakers on this amp.
Yep, remote beam is a bit narrow but the functions are nice and simple.
Being a One knob controller, keep the instructions close for a while. I think the knob contains all functions that are possible.
Tone controls are nicely stepped.
I agree with iiWi about the sound dimensions. Speaker placement is a good cure.
I wanted a nice little device for the desk. I use the Bluetooth for a Firestick plugged into my monitor. For music my Grado SR80s sound great through this amp, and my everyday old and durable ATH M50x sound their best I have heard out of for casual listening/gaming.
I've been running the original MX3 for a couple years as my desktop sound hub. It's been a great solution. I'm glad to see you cover the follow-up and DEFINITELY want to see any All-in-One alternatives if you see any worthy.
Wow! Perfect for my desktop. I hope the DAC inside is as good as their D50. Good review.
Can I suggest some stuff for you to review? No pressure just heads up. Fosi V3 amp. (Op-amps changeable). Get the version with 48v power supply.
S.m.s.l m300se. A cirrus mobile dac chip in a desktop dac.
iBasso DC04 pro. A surprisingly good dongle dac for the Money.
Always love your reviews even if I’m definitely not gonna buy whatever it is, very palpable reviews 😅
I've been thinking of getting one of these for a desktop computer setup for one of my son's. It would be easy to setup on a desk to drive speakers and headphones.
Thanks for the heads up…
Great niche product for near field /desktop/headphone use !
Great review and sharing.
Better than Modi Multibit? I am looking for a potential upgrade. Any opinion/advice?
Any comparison to the Loxjie A30? I need an AIO integrated for my garage/gym 2.1 system with a WiiM mini.
Got one of these to replace a very, very, very old set of computer speakers that I was limping with for way too long. First foray into "real" audio gear. Overall very happy with it so far. It does what it says it will do and it's no nonsense. The display is especially good for me - amps should be heard, not seen, and the amber + idle display sleep just makes sense. Bluetooth is more than good enough for the devices you'd ever be using with that. I can think of some small improvements they should make, but it's nitpicky stuff.
The only thing Topping (or anyone, really) should do is maybe make a bigger brother to this product. Maybe better amp + DAC for those who want that, a bit more power to drive more speakers, and DSP/LPF for the sub-out, and a few other minor quality of life things. Something that would be competent either in the loungeroom or at the desk. Just my 2c :)
What about old Loxjie A30 vs this MX3s amp? I'm too waiting for the new SMSL AL200, looks promising
Also what about the new E10 from Fosi Audio or the TPA-S120 from Audiophonics, for 200 and 220euros respectively? Much more powerful, internal power supplies, usb, optical, coaxial, sub out, bluetooth, remote. Unfortunately, no headphone out but you can get a decent one for another 40 and you're set...The TPA-S120 especially, has the TPA3255 op amps and an ESS Dac.
Hello Srbolyub. I really love watching your channel. You are one of those people who know how to correctly describe the sound of the equipment. And I listen to your opinion about the sound of certain devices .
Now I have a question for you.
I have 2 amplifiers. One Sansui AU-a607i amplifier (Class AB), the second SMSL AO200 amplifier(Class D). If we compare their sound, the SMSL amplifier plays more flatly. The Sansui amplifier has a wider stage and a much better afterglow. The instruments sound more natural. Otherwise, the SMSL AO200 is a good, not expensive amplifier.
Now I have noticed an expensive amplifier from SMSL, this is the SA400 model. Judging by the reviews and reviews, it sounds better than the AO200. I know that there was no review of the SA400 model on your channel, but maybe you heard its sound somewhere. Can you advise me whether it is worth buying this model? Does it have an improved sound compared to the AO200 ? I am interested in exactly the parameters that I described: afterglow, naturalness and volume of the scene.
I wish you all the best in advance, success in your business and excellent sound!!! Thank you.
Hi, I get what you're talking about regarding AO200. That said, I haven't heard SA400 and can't tell how it behaves on that front.
Hello, I love the way you explained the sound of components. My question is when I use line 1 to play my cd player on the smsl a300, is the dac on, or is there a way to turn the dac on & off, I purchased the a300 because of you’re review, it is a very good preamp
You need to connect the CD player via the optical or the coaxial to use the A300's dac.
Thanks for replying, I can’t find anything about a built in dac in the manual, thank you Chris
compare it with smsl ao300, please.
Sorry I miss understood what you said, you did say the a300 doesn’t have a dac, thanks Chris
Wow, they finally upgraded the USB A to USB C! Hopefully the quality can justfy the doubling of the price from the MX3 from 4 yrs ago.
What would you recommend as an AMP ONLY (line in, speaker out) for around USD200.
SMSL A300
Well that’s a bummer for desktop system
Need a two box solution by adding ext $79 DAC
Is the A300 equal or better than the mx3s plus $79 DAC?
Also, how about he new E10 from Fosi Audio or the TPA-S120 from Audiophonics, for 200 and 220euros respectively? Much more powerful, internal power supplies, usb, optical, coaxial, sub out, bluetooth, remote. Unfortunately, no headphone out, but you can get a decent head amp for another 40 and also that both aren't desktop sized. The TPA-S120 especially, has the TPA3255 op amps and an ESS Dac.
What headphones would pair well with this?
It’s all when and good to say buy Everslow but the don’t have stock but blue sound node always have stock
Yes, I know it's more expensive than the MX3 but I'll definitely stick with my PowerNode.
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I hope they make a MX7+ one day with more power :p
The new Fosi Audio E10 integrated at 200euros is at least on paper, a much better amp. Class D of course, internal power supply, 2x125W@4ohm, USB, optical, coaxial, 2pairs of rca, bluetooth and sub out. Unfortunately no headphone out. Same with the Audiophonics TPA-S120 at 220euros, which seems to carry a better DAC.
A300/200 have more power I use them with an Su-1 which is quite a bargain compared to amplifiers below 1000 dollar.. But the MX3 is attractive for the size, price and integration and the DAC is better than in the A300/200.
You mentioned the output can be connected to passive speakers. Can I connect it to active powered speaker?
In that case you don't need an amplifier (active speakers already have it inside) but a DAC only like Topping DX3 pro plus or FX-Audio DR07 that I just reviewed ten days ago. Take a look at those.
@@iiWiReviews What about Topping MX3S BT. I need the output for headphones as well as BT input. I'm new to this hobby, I don't really understand.
No, it's simply the wrong device for active speakers. You get parts that you don't need (yet you still pay for them) and lack something that you need... And you need line level connection (RCA) output for active speakers, headphone out for headphones, and BT... The solution is one of these devices I suggested in the previous post. They have everything you need and their DAC and headphone amp are much better, because no budget was spent on speaker amplifier like in MX3 devices (a part that can't be used with active speakers, because it in them already).
@@iiWiReviews Many thanks for the explanation. My active speaker is HK Soundsticks 4 with only Aux input, so the rca output from DX3pro+ will be connected to the aux input using rca to jack adapter right? The other one is Edifier 1280bts with many options of input. Is the configuration of dx3pro+ with my active speakers will be safe (no damage to the speakers)? I don't really understand, I love the sound quality fron the dac/amp but don't understand how it works.
Yes, RCA outs on aux input is correct way to connect them. That should work just fine.
iiWi Reviews Thanks Much !........
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Can i listen music via headphones WITH sabwoofer at the same time ? finally ?????????????????
No.
@@TheNobleFive Am I missing something here? The amp has 3 modes, Speaker, Headphone, Speaker & Headpnone. Per the manual, "Power amp output includes subwoofer output and speaker output."
If it works like the MX3, which I think it does, then yes.
However the speaker outputs would also be running. Also the subwoofer output is tied to the volume control but does not have a crossover so keep that in mind.
How about loxjie A30?
I just read that USB input on A30 does not go to the high-quality DAC, only the digital input does.
@@ahmethakancoskun899 I actual have never used the usb part of the DAC, interesting.
I have it, it's really good. I expected it to run hot but it didn't. Also agree on the remote, Topping could work a bit on it to make it more sensitive..
MX3s is cleaner in its audio than A300, which can send a bit rubbish into the treble, especially if the screen is fully lit
How’s your front knob? Mine barely works anymore.
@@donatj I mostly use the remote but all of it works just like it did with the Topping DX3 Pro+ DAC I used to own. I find them easier to use with the remote, not a big fan of holding in buttons for longer periods of time
@@Hirnlego999 mine lives on my desk at arms reach so it’s very tempting to use directly.
@@donatj Obviously it should then work without problem, can't be old either. Try to use warranty if you don't need to send it all the way to China?
"which can send a bit rubbish into the treble, especially if the screen is fully lit" - You are saying the sound of the A300 is affected by turning up the display brightness??
I still use the Mx5 for my headphone use, a little underpowered for a speaker amp . But it works and sounds good .
The mx3s has lower power out to speakers :( what sized room are you using the speakers in?
@@coolsurfer89 12x14 feet but ok for desktop ish . It won't get grandma rocking .
2:10 - nice 😆
Good video, thanks.
Wish I had gotten this instead of pain MX3.yeah i get more out of the Ayima 07 amp I have but compact all in one is nice
Volume level at 2:10
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I needed to replay it twice to figure out what you're talking about. 🙂🙃
Like first, hear second. 👍
Too bad this didn't have the TPA 3255 chip in it for more power. But if Topping did that it would cannibalize sales of it's more expensive amps.
Too bad the SMSL a300 does not have optical input.
IMO, to qualify as an all-in-one it must include a source
I agree with you when it comes to an independent room HiFi setup. For desktop environment I feel that your PC is that source and for many PC specific uses, like gaming, audio or video editing, etc. it can't even be replaced with any other source.
@@iiWiReviews ok I agree. I wasnt clear from your title that you were referring to an all-in-one desktop
I think the majority of people don't know what is "sensation of empty space around the instruments" or "edges of notes" , fancy names but inutile if people struggle to understand what are you talking about ....
Also I think that you have to tell us if your videos are sponsored by SMSL / TOPPING /ecc.
No they're not sponsored by Topping and SMSL. Then again, a sellout would answer exactly like that. 🤔