Fun fact: After disastrous test screenings, Sony tried to sell this film to Netflix but they rejected it. When it did release to theaters, it flopped at the box office and there were reports of people walking out.
@@dragonsblood23 Considering they also said yes to The Ridiculous 6, it’s all the more damning against Holmes and Watson that it was the first film they ever actually straight up said no to broadcasting (even if only at the time Sony first offered for them to do as much).
I read a story where someone watched a group of 14-year-old boys walk out of this movie about a half-hour in. The storyteller said "when you manage to bore the most easily entertained moviegoing demographic, you have failed."
This movie is such a fascinating case of bad. I mean, after the test screenings, they ask Netflix to put it on their platform only to be rejected. Can you imagine how bad you have to be when even Netflix rejects it?
Omg, this is like watching one of those Seltzerberg parody movies where they think hammering in random pop culture references counts as a joke except here it feels even more haphazard somehow.
The weirdest thing about Holmes & Watson being a parody of the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes films was those films were made with a light touch to begin with.
Agreed- they didn't take themselves too seriously so it feels pointless. The more serious Cumberbatch show might have made a better target but I'm sure it would have still be just as bad.
That was why I didn't care for the first one and never saw the second. In my opinion, Sherlock Holmes is supposed to have a dark, intense, Se7en-esque tone, not Pirates of the Caribbean slapstick, and the parts where it did go dark came out of nowhere.
@@coolnerdlll6053Given how many Holmes adaptions there has been over the years with widely different tones, I prefer it when they try something new personally [I have a soft spot for 'Without a Clue' for example where Holmes is a fictional character created by Watson and he's hired a drunken, incompetent actor to play him!] but it's not for everyone.
@@mechanomics2649 That could have been funny on paper, but it probably would have bombed in the final movie. My go-to comparison is Octavia Spencer being called "The Help" in Shape of Water.
Three things: 1) Another awesome review. 2) Nice swipe at the end about Hollywood needing to pay the writers. 3) I can’t wait to see you tear apart Cats limb from limb.
Film Brain's podcast had one of the film's extra's on hand, and basically the entire production was mismanaged, from having two different intros a la Movie 43, to bad blocking, to the MEGA fez looking like it was added in post, to a scene being filmed with the camera out of focus!
Richard Roper, film critic, waited 30 minutes to hear a laugh from the audience, nothing, then waited another 30 minutes, and still nothing z then he got up and walked out. Him and 70 other people walked out and demanded their money back.
I honestly wish Roger Ebert had lived to see this. His excoriation would have been delicious. And I can't imagine any reason why he would have liked it.
@@kali3665 Sometimes I wish Richard Roper was still doing those thumbs up/down style movie reviews with another critic on TV but no one could ever replicate Siskel and Ebert when destroying a bad movie although Roper did have one of my favorite reviews of Movie 43 even if he did technically had a meltdown. Also @shainewhite2781 If I'm understanding your comment correctly then this movie wasn't shown to critics before it was released which probably means that every poor critic who had to sit and watch this movie before writing their reviews had to spend their own hard earned money on this piece of cinematic trash.
Great Mouse Detective was a film that made my childhood. Even to this day, the two jump scares with Fidget the bat genuinely scare me and I sometimes wonder what the animators were thinking when they made that scene. Hell the opening with him when he makes his first appearance still gives me chills to this day.
I was an extra on Step Brothers for the Catalina wine mixer sequence for a week which were all 5am call times and shooting by 7am sharp when it was daylight outside. They were typically 12 hour film days and we background players were all wine mixer guests snd asked to cross, walk to and from, pretend to interact with one another, etc. The working process they had was the director would casually say Action, Will Farrell and John C. would start the dialogue scene of what was scripted. Eventually one of them would go off script and improv dialogue and the other would then go off of him and they'd go where the muse took them. At some point when the improv idea ran its course to its logical conclusion or a sudden burst of inspiration would hit, the director would yell out certain things for them to try like an audience member at an improv show. Lije, 'Talk politics!' or 'Accuse him of sleeping with your mom.' to 'Now accuse him of sleeping with a horse.' And the two actors would just launch instantly into that direction with the scene. Normally actors say the same lines over and over again with usually a blocking run through before filming, multiple camera set-ups and a slight directional tweaks here and there so you as an extra are ready and used to any dialogue being said and nothing takes you by surprise like an unscripted funny line. Well, what I haven't brought up till now is just how freakin genuis level piss your pants funny these two improv kings of comedy were and are on each and every GD take. So much so and the fact they never talked about the same thing twice, I quickly couldn't be in scenes walking by or anywhere near them because I seriously couldn't keep it together. They were so crazy good off the cuff making up the funniest dislogue I've ever heard. I don't kbow how my fellow background group kept their sh*t together that cound stay in the scenes. And there was a week of this. It was pure joy. The hours were insane with a long 405 freeway commute traffic both ways every day and it was a blast and over way too fast. The week I was there Adam Scott was going around table to table just insulting us in character before the cameras were rolling just to get us focused in which was great and funny in its own right because knowing his work, Adam playing a duche is the most hilarious thing ever. He whispered in my ear, 'My god man, get your dick out your ass and get it together, man.' which I immediately lost it laughing my ass off, but he was already off to the next party guest extra to insult comic to. We were told another day to throw pieces of bread at John C. as he was drumming to show how critical of it we were, and the director on take two whispered to us to really chuck them at him this time, aim for the face. Which we did, and hilariously he figured it out pretty quick saying, 'Son of a bitch, fuckers...' using his drum sticks to swat them back at us. We were quoting 'Boats and ho's' a full year before the film came out. One dude from SNL had a very specific bit being the band frontman who only sang Billy Joel songs, but only beteeen 1978 thru 1982. So we SAG extras would yell out requests but always songs before '78 and he in character would go Sam Kineson on us in full on meltdown mode take after take. That was the most savage bit I'd ever seen in my life. The actual movie was great, but i akways thought of all the genuis stuff they left on the cutting room floor never used. So, to go from that where they were at the height of their powers and an embarrassment of riches to devoid of inspiration where the well had run dry is do sad so behold.
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That is the most interesting story behind the making of a comedy movie ever. I think Step Brothers is garbage, but hearing all this was more interesting than that film.
How they got Rebecca Hall, Kelly Macdonald, Pam Ferris, Ralph Fiennes, Bella Ramsey, Steve Coogan, Hugh Laurie and Lauren Lapkus in this I will never know. Must have been the mother of all paychecks. On a side note, Rebecca Hall and Kelly Macdonald would make a good Holmes & Watson if you wanted to do something really different.
Well, weird as it is, that is just so often the simple fact that makes the movie bad. In this case, it's just insulting how much this film goes for the lowest, most mean spirited and just unpleasant attempts at humor. That fail. From the the trailer I knew everything I needed to know about this debacle. I'm just sad that Ferrell and Riley even were involved in this. They both deserve so much better.
Roger Ebert once said “One rule of comedy is that it’s hard to be funny when it’s obvious you’re trying to be funny. Great comedies take their premises seriously and the laughs flow naturally.”
Coogan probably only did this as a favour to Riley [and his friend, UK comic Rob Brydon is also in this] as he's been pretty vocal about how bad it is. Stan & Ollie is great.
So let me get this straight. Netflix allows movies like 365 Days, The Ridiculous Six, and The Bubble, but Holmes and Watson was too bad for them. Anyways, next time we’re watch a movie that’ll make you wanna be a dog person.
Initially. They eventually caved in because I watched it on Netflix. Although I wonder if it's still available because people seems unaware that it was there at one point...
Don't know about 365 days but they made Six and Bubble. They were probably asked to buy the distribution rights to Holmes & Watson for some inflated figure [such as the $125 million Amazon paid for Coming 2 America] but said no, picking it up later for Home Media.
There's actually an alternate opening in which Holmes and Watson meet where Watson tries to kill himself by jumping off the roof of his home, but Holmes, who lives next to Watson wants him to jump away from his garden and a huge zuccini that Holmes grew. But Watson intreprets Holmes' words as saying that he shouldn't kill himself and that life is worth living. Watson then accidently falls from his roof and lands on the huge zuccini squashing it. Holmes gets over it quickly and they become partners
Back in 2018, my mom wanted to pick a movie for the family to see. She suggested Holmes & Watson. I said the trailer looked awful and suggested something else, like Aquaman or something. We ended up seeing Mary Poppins Returns instead. I still haven't seen Holmes & Watson - I've only watched it by proxy through reviews - but I feel confident that my family made the right choice.
In terms of casting, I don’t know what’s worse: Rebecca Hall being here (who proved in both The Night House and Resurrection that she’s WAY too good for this), or that we straight up have Queen Trunchbull (no, really, that’s Pam Ferris, who played Miss Trunchbull in the original Matilda movie). Both are major WTF.
@@coolnerdlll6053 she’s also in Children Of Men, and is great in that too. I just mentioned Trunchbull since that’s probably how most would know her (though Aunt Marge is probably right after that). But I agree, she’s WAY above this. If Trunchbull was her having the time of her life playing a deliciously horrible villainess, this looked like she’s just waiting for her paycheck to clear.
@@gracekim1998 it sure is! Now I’m sure a lot of us wish we could’ve had a scene where the Queen forced Will Ferrell to eat an entire chocolate cake in front of a crowd or hammer-threw John C. Reilly over a fence (as those would’ve actually come close to funny). Yet, THIS is what we get.
I just realized that the cleaner is played by Kelly Macdonald, who voices Merida in Pixars Brave. And they did the exact same joke with her character in Ralph Breaks The Internet which came out the same year and came out about a month before this one! Anyone else wanna bet that they saw the trailers for Ralph Breaks The Internet and shoehorned this joke in once they realized they had Kelly Macdonald and could do same thing Disney did? This movie really does have no ideas of their own.
The UK version of this movie actually has a different opening. The UK version opens with Watson attempting suicide and Holmes tells him not to jump on his watermelon.
This confused me at first coz before watching the movie I only saw reviews with the other intro. I thought at first that I missed it but turns out that the director pulled a move a la "Movie 43" for no good reason!😂
They actually were released around the same time [Stan and Ollie in the United states only 3 days after Holmes]! Probably explains Steve Coogan's cameo.
I'm loving all the MST3K clips you're including in this video. Didn't see this movie and don't want to but I think the Hannah Montana quote could've been funny if they used an actual quote from the show.
Yeah I double checked to make sure it wasn’t like a joke the show made a la “The inner workings of my mind are an enigma “ (although if my memory serves me right the show was usually not that clever) which wouldn’t completely save it but would redeem it just a tad
Hannah Montana ended in 2011 so 7 years before this came out [and of course star Miley Cyrus has totally shred that image]. Feels like something in the script when the project was first planned and they were clearly too lazy to change it to something more topical when the actually got around to making the film.
@@jamesatkinsonjaProbably. Made sense back then, during its peak it was kind of one of those children’s franchises that grown men LOVED to hate but by 2018 no one really cared that much, like nowadays those same men just kind of shrug whenever Flowers pops up on the radio LOL
@@jamesatkinsonja %100 laziness. There's no reason they couldn't find a relevant funny quote to open the movie with and set the stage for the rest of the movie. On top of that, they literally just made the quote up, it has NO relevance to the film in anyway, and they couldn't even be bothered to lie about it being from a recent enough show to make people laugh. Judd Apatow is the EPITOME of "formulaic, uninspired predictable trash". The existence of this film is a blight on all humanity, and anyone involved in it's production should be publicly lynched and exiled from all of existence. ...... OK I got carried away at the end. Bur I figured the start of my comment was so pretentious, I might as well just carry it as far as I could.
I read all of the Sherlock Holmes novels/short stories earlier this year. This is going to piss me off more than the ending to "A Case of Identity", isn't it?
It should speak volumes about any movie when - true story - not even Netflix was willing to pick it up for distribution. Yes, Sony was that damn desperate to unload this.
We all know John C. Reilly can be funny like in Walk Hard or Dr. Steve Brule. He just needs some good material to work off of, but Holmes & Watson had no good material whatsoever.
OK I know historical accuracy probably noped out of this movie right quick, but how the hell could Queen Victoria have been on the completed Titanic? She’d been dead for 11 years.
Makes sense, especially since both Ferrell and Myers really took off thanks to stints on SNL. Yet I wonder how this movie only slightly hurt Ferrell’s career instead of completely ending it like with Myers.
@@heymistercarter. Ferrell's lucky he has a lifetime pass thanks to Anchorman. You'd think Myers would have that with Wayne's World, Austin Powers, and Shrek but I guess not.
I will never understand why you didn't skyrocket to way more subs and views years ago. It"s a damn shame. You may not have their "production value" but IMO you've always been funnier and a better actual movie critic than Nostalgia Critic or others of the same kind. I'm really glad you still continue your reviews after all this time :)
I did not expect to be discombobulated with the clips shown in this movie, but somehow I got there before you could even say "From minute one, we are already in trouble."
at the time this came out, I was nannying for a guy who was a regular in Adam Sandler movies. The man was in Jack and Jill and came home one day announcing how bad this movie was lol
Welcome my good people as we take a look at a movie that was so bad, reports of people walking out of the theater in the middle of the movie was on a few news channels on TH-cam.
At the end of it all, we are almost done with this journey of tackling every film that has won Worst Picture. As for next time, I dread the day you witness that monster. Prayers go to you, Sean.
With all the surprising amount of talent that was in this stinker I’m kind of shocked that no one has made trading cards with all the actors who are too good for this movie.
This movie was so bad that Sony tried to sell the distribution rights to Netflix, which they declined. You know a movie's bad when even Netflix says no to it.
6:30 *Watson walks in on Holmes with a woman* "HOLMES!? WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL GIRL IS THAT?!" "Elementary my dear Watson, Elementary" ...there I made the cursed joke
I was on business at Chatham Historic Dockyard on a day the venue was closed for filming parts of Holmes and Watson. The crew were stressed out due to rewrites, and morale was terrible.
Steve Coogan and John C. Riley were in the really good 'Stan and Ollie' [about the later years of Laurel+ Hardy] around the same time. Coogan remarked 'If you want to avoid laughing, watch 'Holmes and Watson'. You should be pretty safe with that'. He also stated 'In 20 years when the dust has settled and people can look at the film objectively...people will still think it's rubbish!'
You thought this Razzie awards was questionable, wait until you get to 2021 when they decide to shit on the My Pillow guy, and give his documentary worst picture. As bad as it is, and while I love a good dunk on Republicans, Sia's movie Music should have won worst picture that year, because while Absolute Proof was a dumb movie, Music was downright offensive in how it portrayed Autism.
Given the Razzie’s love for lame jokes, I’m a bit surprised that Music wasn’t nominated for worse remake, rip-off, or sequel; as a ripoff of Simple Jack from Tropic Thunder.
They clearly just wanted the 'click bait' topicality with that choice, especially as it's hardly a 'film'. They even bent the rules so it could be included as it should have been in the 2021 awards but no one would have cared by then.
"I have ten commandments. The first nine are, thou shalt not bore", says the quote by Billy Wilder (who, by the way, was a lot more successful than whatever this is in making a light-hearted Sherlock film with "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes")
Hey Sean, big fan of your videos. It looks like you'll be caught up on the Worst Picture Project before the year is over and have you thought about what you might want to review afterwards? May I suggest The Spirit or the 1998 Godzilla?
Wait, you hate Step Brothers? But pretty much a lot of people I’ve seen have considered it even better than Talladega Nights. And as a guy who also loved Talladega Nights, I agree as it’s entertaining as hell.
...uh, he DIDN'T say he hates 'Step Brothers'; he said 'Step Brothers' was "just okay". Where are you getting that he hates it? I think you need a new dictionary, my dude. The one you have is labeled "antonyms".
Oh god this movie!! Dad and I wanted to see a movie in theaters some time in December to escape the scorching Australian summer, and we picked this crap-tastrophe. We lasted all of 15-20 mins before we *did* to decide to walk out, so I can personally attest to reports of that happening. Idk how long into the movie we actually lasted, never double checked it, but we didn't even bother trying to get our money back. We decided going home and sweating with no AC was more bearable than this tripe. Edit: the Australian cut of this film was arguably even worse than the American one. We here Down Under got an alternate version of the opening scene that doesn't portray them as children, but shows them meeting as adults. Watson was about to jump off a roof into Holmes' garden, and thinks Holmes' pleas to move on and jump somewhere else so he doesn't ruin his garden, as genuine cries to not end his life and thinks Holmes is being compassionate and kind. Yes really. The punchline of Watson falling off accidentally and landing and crushing a large prized fruit/vegetable was as predictable as this film flopping at the box office. Also, I'm told this alternate opening ruins a running "joke" of Holmes being unable to show emotion that the schoolyard scene was supposed to set up. I wouldn't have known as I didn't even get that far into the movie.
No mention that Sherlock and Holmes would probably die on that ship, because... you know: "Women and children first!" And all the other people that died. Me thinks they didn't think that joke through at all... 🫥
I kind of feel bad for actors who's worst stuff becomes their most well known stuff, cause it overshadows how good they can be otherwise. Will Ferrell isn't always great, but he has some solid roles, and John C. Reilly is genuinely a great actor. This goes for actors like Adam Sandler too, since he can give powerhouse performances, just doesn't always care.
Gah, I really wish you had more subscribers, your work is excellent! I expect some of it comes from the word 'excrement' not appearing in search, but you can't really change that. Anyway, keep it up!
Fun fact: there are many scenes where a newspaper is shown, the newspaper will often have a date on it along with the weekday, well get this: they keep getting the weekday of each paper wrong
I went to see it the day after Christmas with a group of friends at our local Alamo Drafthouse, and within 25 minutes we had all pretty much decided that it was not going to be a pleasant experience. The only thing we agreed on about that movie was the back that it was great that the theater served alcohol. That was honestly the only way we could get through it.
Another fun fact: Arthur Conan Doyle studied at the University of Edinburgh Medical School being awarded a MD in 1885. Also the school admitted women to limited courses in 1869, giving them equal access to courses in the late 1880's. [So no, Holmes would *not* have been surprised by female doctors, disapproving perhaps, but not in the least bit surprised].
There's a cameo towards the end of Billy Zane walking on to the titanic, which could have been a fun little cameo if they hadn´t pointed it out. They yell to him using his real name and wave and he waves back. I think that kind of sums up the film. They have to point everything out and tells us it's a joke.
Fun fact: After disastrous test screenings, Sony tried to sell this film to Netflix but they rejected it. When it did release to theaters, it flopped at the box office and there were reports of people walking out.
I watched it on TV (Syfy maybe) and I was tempted to walk out.
Honestly, I would walk out too
Netflix still accepted it at one point coz it's where I watched it!😂
You know you messed up when Netflix says no to you but said yes to Cuties
@@dragonsblood23 Considering they also said yes to The Ridiculous 6, it’s all the more damning against Holmes and Watson that it was the first film they ever actually straight up said no to broadcasting (even if only at the time Sony first offered for them to do as much).
I read a story where someone watched a group of 14-year-old boys walk out of this movie about a half-hour in. The storyteller said "when you manage to bore the most easily entertained moviegoing demographic, you have failed."
From the writer of the bad guys movie
Yeah that sounds about right
This movie is such a fascinating case of bad.
I mean, after the test screenings, they ask Netflix to put it on their platform only to be rejected.
Can you imagine how bad you have to be when even Netflix rejects it?
I think there's a TVTrope for that: Even Evil Has Standards.
Netflix gave “Insatiable” a second season, and yet they wouldn’t touch “Holmes & Watson” with a ten-foot pole. That’s how low the bar was lowered.
Omg, this is like watching one of those Seltzerberg parody movies where they think hammering in random pop culture references counts as a joke except here it feels even more haphazard somehow.
The weirdest thing about Holmes & Watson being a parody of the Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes films was those films were made with a light touch to begin with.
Agreed- they didn't take themselves too seriously so it feels pointless. The more serious Cumberbatch show might have made a better target but I'm sure it would have still be just as bad.
That was why I didn't care for the first one and never saw the second. In my opinion, Sherlock Holmes is supposed to have a dark, intense, Se7en-esque tone, not Pirates of the Caribbean slapstick, and the parts where it did go dark came out of nowhere.
@@coolnerdlll6053Given how many Holmes adaptions there has been over the years with widely different tones, I prefer it when they try something new personally [I have a soft spot for 'Without a Clue' for example where Holmes is a fictional character created by Watson and he's hired a drunken, incompetent actor to play him!] but it's not for everyone.
The best thing about Avengers Infinity war was seeing two Sherlock Holmes actors bicker with each other
You're right! I didn't think about that!😂
They only refrained from a no shit sherlock joke cuz it was too obvious
@@Aspirider0220 They should have just went for it.
@@mechanomics2649 That could have been funny on paper, but it probably would have bombed in the final movie. My go-to comparison is Octavia Spencer being called "The Help" in Shape of Water.
Three things:
1) Another awesome review.
2) Nice swipe at the end about Hollywood needing to pay the writers.
3) I can’t wait to see you tear apart Cats limb from limb.
From the start of his vlog, I am fascinated for how he reacts to seeing it for the second time.
If anything, Hollywood writers probably get paid too much
@@otaking3582 bullshit
@@otaking3582Eh, after the fiasco that was Transformer 2, I'd say to just give them their d*** money!
Cats is one thing, but the Worst Pic of 2020 might break him.
Film Brain's podcast had one of the film's extra's on hand, and basically the entire production was mismanaged, from having two different intros a la Movie 43, to bad blocking, to the MEGA fez looking like it was added in post, to a scene being filmed with the camera out of focus!
Yup. And apparently there wasn’t as much ad-libbing as you’d expect and apparently a lot of the film was actually written…which makes it worse..
It's always interesting to hear from people actually involved in the production and that explains a lot.
Keep this movie in mind next time you dick ride "the bad guys"
This has to be the first time that one of Sean's videos wasn't uploaded when I was asleep.
Same
For me it’s the opposite 🤣 always happy to wake up to his reviews
Richard Roper, film critic, waited 30 minutes to hear a laugh from the audience, nothing, then waited another 30 minutes, and still nothing z then he got up and walked out.
Him and 70 other people walked out and demanded their money back.
Just wish I could get back the time I wasted watching this piece of dreck.
I honestly wish Roger Ebert had lived to see this. His excoriation would have been delicious. And I can't imagine any reason why he would have liked it.
He waited too long for me to care about his opinion. One second is all you need to say this movie is a brown geyser in the pit of a Hanes underwear.
@@kali3665 Sometimes I wish Richard Roper was still doing those thumbs up/down style movie reviews with another critic on TV but no one could ever replicate Siskel and Ebert when destroying a bad movie although Roper did have one of my favorite reviews of Movie 43 even if he did technically had a meltdown. Also @shainewhite2781 If I'm understanding your comment correctly then this movie wasn't shown to critics before it was released which probably means that every poor critic who had to sit and watch this movie before writing their reviews had to spend their own hard earned money on this piece of cinematic trash.
@sumthingwikked4257 keep this movie in mind next time you dickride the bad guys
The Titanic joke even came with a surprise cameo by Billy Zane.
Very pointless. Who still cared about Titanic in 2018?
Topical coming 21 years after Titanic came out! The parody of 'Ghost' [which has been done to death] was of a film 28 years old so it's very tired.
Or Billy Zane!
If you want a cartoony and over-the-top but still tense and engaging Sherlock Holmes movie...
Stick with Great Mouse Detective.
"Great Mouse Detective" had Vincent freaking Price voicing its villain. No contest!
That or the Looney Tunes short "Deduce You Say!" One of Daffy & Porky's most underrated cartoons.
Replace the word movie with series, and then you would recommend the anime, Sherlock Hound
Great Mouse Detective was a film that made my childhood. Even to this day, the two jump scares with Fidget the bat genuinely scare me and I sometimes wonder what the animators were thinking when they made that scene. Hell the opening with him when he makes his first appearance still gives me chills to this day.
What about the Guy Ritchie Sherlock movies, I think they're pretty good.
I was an extra on Step Brothers for the Catalina wine mixer sequence for a week which were all 5am call times and shooting by 7am sharp when it was daylight outside. They were typically 12 hour film days and we background players were all wine mixer guests snd asked to cross, walk to and from, pretend to interact with one another, etc. The working process they had was the director would casually say Action, Will Farrell and John C. would start the dialogue scene of what was scripted. Eventually one of them would go off script and improv dialogue and the other would then go off of him and they'd go where the muse took them. At some point when the improv idea ran its course to its logical conclusion or a sudden burst of inspiration would hit, the director would yell out certain things for them to try like an audience member at an improv show. Lije, 'Talk politics!' or 'Accuse him of sleeping with your mom.' to 'Now accuse him of sleeping with a horse.' And the two actors would just launch instantly into that direction with the scene. Normally actors say the same lines over and over again with usually a blocking run through before filming, multiple camera set-ups and a slight directional tweaks here and there so you as an extra are ready and used to any dialogue being said and nothing takes you by surprise like an unscripted funny line.
Well, what I haven't brought up till now is just how freakin genuis level piss your pants funny these two improv kings of comedy were and are on each and every GD take. So much so and the fact they never talked about the same thing twice, I quickly couldn't be in scenes walking by or anywhere near them because I seriously couldn't keep it together. They were so crazy good off the cuff making up the funniest dislogue I've ever heard. I don't kbow how my fellow background group kept their sh*t together that cound stay in the scenes. And there was a week of this. It was pure joy. The hours were insane with a long 405 freeway commute traffic both ways every day and it was a blast and over way too fast. The week I was there Adam Scott was going around table to table just insulting us in character before the cameras were rolling just to get us focused in which was great and funny in its own right because knowing his work, Adam playing a duche is the most hilarious thing ever. He whispered in my ear, 'My god man, get your dick out your ass and get it together, man.' which I immediately lost it laughing my ass off, but he was already off to the next party guest extra to insult comic to. We were told another day to throw pieces of bread at John C. as he was drumming to show how critical of it we were, and the director on take two whispered to us to really chuck them at him this time, aim for the face. Which we did, and hilariously he figured it out pretty quick saying, 'Son of a bitch, fuckers...' using his drum sticks to swat them back at us. We were quoting 'Boats and ho's' a full year before the film came out. One dude from SNL had a very specific bit being the band frontman who only sang Billy Joel songs, but only beteeen 1978 thru 1982. So we SAG extras would yell out requests but always songs before '78 and he in character would go Sam Kineson on us in full on meltdown mode take after take. That was the most savage bit I'd ever seen in my life. The actual movie was great, but i akways thought of all the genuis stuff they left on the cutting room floor never used.
So, to go from that where they were at the height of their powers and an embarrassment of riches to devoid of inspiration where the well had run dry is do sad so behold.
That is the most interesting story behind the making of a comedy movie ever. I think Step Brothers is garbage, but hearing all this was more interesting than that film.
How they got Rebecca Hall, Kelly Macdonald, Pam Ferris, Ralph Fiennes, Bella Ramsey, Steve Coogan, Hugh Laurie and Lauren Lapkus in this I will never know. Must have been the mother of all paychecks. On a side note, Rebecca Hall and Kelly Macdonald would make a good Holmes & Watson if you wanted to do something really different.
I dub those "Ben Kingsley Paychecks." I made up this term after watching the travesty that was "Bloodrayne."
Money
Sure, female swapped Sherlock and Watson would be so original and not a total millennial cliche...
@@juliangrant9718 Elementary had a female Watson+ Moriarty and that was a massive hit on TV for 7 seasons.
@@jamesatkinsonja Having Lucy Liu as the female Watson definitely helped.
You don't need to be a super-sleuth like Sherlock Holmes to know that this move is going to be a stinker.
If you look very closely at the evidence, you can see Will Farrell on the cover.
The greatest mystery of all: how can someone write a review of a bad comedy beyond "it's not funny"?
Well, weird as it is, that is just so often the simple fact that makes the movie bad. In this case, it's just insulting how much this film goes for the lowest, most mean spirited and just unpleasant attempts at humor. That fail. From the the trailer I knew everything I needed to know about this debacle. I'm just sad that Ferrell and Riley even were involved in this. They both deserve so much better.
The game is afoot!
Roger Ebert once said “One rule of comedy is that it’s hard to be funny when it’s obvious you’re trying to be funny. Great comedies take their premises seriously and the laughs flow naturally.”
Probably why this review was fairly short and to the point.
I think John Riley was busy perfecting the excellent Stan And Ollie with Steve Coogan and just phoned this one in.
Stan & Ollie was a great movie. Holmes & Watson, however? Absolute garbage.
He would have also been doing Ralph Breaks the Internet around that time.
Coogan probably only did this as a favour to Riley [and his friend, UK comic Rob Brydon is also in this] as he's been pretty vocal about how bad it is. Stan & Ollie is great.
So let me get this straight. Netflix allows movies like 365 Days, The Ridiculous Six, and The Bubble, but Holmes and Watson was too bad for them. Anyways, next time we’re watch a movie that’ll make you wanna be a dog person.
Initially. They eventually caved in because I watched it on Netflix. Although I wonder if it's still available because people seems unaware that it was there at one point...
Don't know about 365 days but they made Six and Bubble. They were probably asked to buy the distribution rights to Holmes & Watson for some inflated figure [such as the $125 million Amazon paid for Coming 2 America] but said no, picking it up later for Home Media.
Don’t forget Netflix said yes to Cuties too.
@@Smokingwrecker agenda>your satisfaction
@@nignamedmutt7270Huh?
There's actually an alternate opening in which Holmes and Watson meet where Watson tries to kill himself by jumping off the roof of his home, but Holmes, who lives next to Watson wants him to jump away from his garden and a huge zuccini that Holmes grew. But Watson intreprets Holmes' words as saying that he shouldn't kill himself and that life is worth living. Watson then accidently falls from his roof and lands on the huge zuccini squashing it. Holmes gets over it quickly and they become partners
At least you're almost done with the Razzies. All you got left are Cats, Absolute Proof, Diana: The Musical, and Blonde.
Wait he has to cover cats?😅
How is he gonna be able to cover Absolute Proof, that films harder to find than a mint condition copy of E.T. for the Atari 2600
Blonde won, huh? Honesty, I kind of expected Morbius to win, but whatever.
I wonder how he will think about Sia's "Music" in comparison to "Absolute Proof".
@@fermintenava5911 I hope he takes some time in that review to shred Sia.
Back in 2018, my mom wanted to pick a movie for the family to see. She suggested Holmes & Watson. I said the trailer looked awful and suggested something else, like Aquaman or something. We ended up seeing Mary Poppins Returns instead. I still haven't seen Holmes & Watson - I've only watched it by proxy through reviews - but I feel confident that my family made the right choice.
You did.
Your family definitely made the right choice, though the perfect choice would've been Into the Spider-Verse
@@erichfiedler1481 We did see that too. I’m seeing the sequel next week. Can’t wait.
@@Betta66 It's every bit as good as you've heard. Have fun.
3:22-3:27 Cynical reviews actually watched that Hannah Montana episode and confirmed that the quote did not exist.
Not just Coogan, but his comedy partner Rob Brydon during the courtroom scene. Also, at least Coogan and Reilly had 'Stan and Ollie' that same year.
I'll bet ya the only reason this movie was made was so that they could say "No shit, Sherlock" in a Sherlock Holmes movie.
I'd believe that.
Queen Victoria died in 1900 or 1901. The Titantic’s maiden and final voyage was in 1912. Just saying…
The least of the movie's problems.
It's clearly not meant to be connected to any 'reality', hence having anachronistic jokes about Trump. Not being funny is a bigger issue...
In terms of casting, I don’t know what’s worse: Rebecca Hall being here (who proved in both The Night House and Resurrection that she’s WAY too good for this), or that we straight up have Queen Trunchbull (no, really, that’s Pam Ferris, who played Miss Trunchbull in the original Matilda movie). Both are major WTF.
I know Pamela Ferris mainly from Rosemary and Thyme but, I've seen her in lots of things and she's always amazing in every role.
Pam Ferris was also Aunt Marge in Prisoner of Azkaban, practically the same character as Miss Trunchbull. She's way too good for this.
@@coolnerdlll6053 she’s also in Children Of Men, and is great in that too. I just mentioned Trunchbull since that’s probably how most would know her (though Aunt Marge is probably right after that). But I agree, she’s WAY above this. If Trunchbull was her having the time of her life playing a deliciously horrible villainess, this looked like she’s just waiting for her paycheck to clear.
Wait that’s her?😅 dang
@@gracekim1998 it sure is! Now I’m sure a lot of us wish we could’ve had a scene where the Queen forced Will Ferrell to eat an entire chocolate cake in front of a crowd or hammer-threw John C. Reilly over a fence (as those would’ve actually come close to funny). Yet, THIS is what we get.
I just realized that the cleaner is played by Kelly Macdonald, who voices Merida in Pixars Brave.
And they did the exact same joke with her character in Ralph Breaks The Internet which came out the same year and came out about a month before this one!
Anyone else wanna bet that they saw the trailers for Ralph Breaks The Internet and shoehorned this joke in once they realized they had Kelly Macdonald and could do same thing Disney did? This movie really does have no ideas of their own.
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Always appreciate a Bad Guys shout out every time there is one.
John C. Reilly and Steve Coogan were also in a great Laurel and Hardy biopic around the same time this movie came out.
Immediately watches Knives Out to cleanse myself.
The UK version of this movie actually has a different opening. The UK version opens with Watson attempting suicide and Holmes tells him not to jump on his watermelon.
This confused me at first coz before watching the movie I only saw reviews with the other intro. I thought at first that I missed it but turns out that the director pulled a move a la "Movie 43" for no good reason!😂
I wonder if John C. Riley played Oliver Hardy in Stan & Ollie the following year as an apology for this trainwreck?
They actually were released around the same time [Stan and Ollie in the United states only 3 days after Holmes]! Probably explains Steve Coogan's cameo.
@@jamesatkinsonja Huh, interesting.
Always love these retrospectives!
I'm loving all the MST3K clips you're including in this video. Didn't see this movie and don't want to but I think the Hannah Montana quote could've been funny if they used an actual quote from the show.
Yeah I double checked to make sure it wasn’t like a joke the show made a la “The inner workings of my mind are an enigma “ (although if my memory serves me right the show was usually not that clever) which wouldn’t completely save it but would redeem it just a tad
Hannah Montana ended in 2011 so 7 years before this came out [and of course star Miley Cyrus has totally shred that image]. Feels like something in the script when the project was first planned and they were clearly too lazy to change it to something more topical when the actually got around to making the film.
@@jamesatkinsonjaProbably. Made sense back then, during its peak it was kind of one of those children’s franchises that grown men LOVED to hate but by 2018 no one really cared that much, like nowadays those same men just kind of shrug whenever Flowers pops up on the radio LOL
@@jamesatkinsonja %100 laziness.
There's no reason they couldn't find a relevant funny quote to open the movie with and set the stage for the rest of the movie.
On top of that, they literally just made the quote up, it has NO relevance to the film in anyway, and they couldn't even be bothered to lie about it being from a recent enough show to make people laugh.
Judd Apatow is the EPITOME of "formulaic, uninspired predictable trash".
The existence of this film is a blight on all humanity, and anyone involved in it's production should be publicly lynched and exiled from all of existence.
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OK I got carried away at the end. Bur I figured the start of my comment was so pretentious, I might as well just carry it as far as I could.
This movie ruined Christmas for so many people.
And to think: this was the most recent Worst Picture winner when Sean started this whole thing.
I feel old now
No, it was Emoji Movie. He started it because he didn't like the results of the awards for 2017 movies.
@@coolnerdlll6053 It was? My mistake, then.
@@coolnerdlll6053Yeah, sounds about right: the Don't Stop the Music episode came out August 2018.
Sasha and Ferrel would have been a hit.
But we are after all the darkest timeline.
This one is going to get brutal and I mean very BRUTAL.
I don't want to say that Death of a Nation is the worst movie of the year because if I did, I would just be giving Dinesh what he wants.
The real mystery is how they expected anyone to laugh at this.
I read all of the Sherlock Holmes novels/short stories earlier this year.
This is going to piss me off more than the ending to "A Case of Identity", isn't it?
Oh man, this movie was sooooo baaaadd
Glad you’re doing good Smeghead!
Sean: It's so dumb!
Whoever made this movie: So dumb it's brilliant!
Sean: NO!! It's just dumb!
It should speak volumes about any movie when - true story - not even Netflix was willing to pick it up for distribution. Yes, Sony was that damn desperate to unload this.
I love it when these come out! great to see a new one!
If you can find it, I would recommend the recent Russian version of Sherlock Holmes. It is a bit weird at times, but a good watch.
Man, you know it's bad when not even Netflix will take it.
We all know John C. Reilly can be funny like in Walk Hard or Dr. Steve Brule. He just needs some good material to work off of, but Holmes & Watson had no good material whatsoever.
OK I know historical accuracy probably noped out of this movie right quick, but how the hell could Queen Victoria have been on the completed Titanic? She’d been dead for 11 years.
Congrats, Will Ferrell, you have your own Love Guru!
Only difference is that Mike Myers hasn't had a starring role in anything since Shrek Forever After.
@@michaelstrong5383 Technically, he did that awful Netflix miniseries about that Axe Murderer scene but yeah, it took him 14 years after Love Guru.
@@HBarnill Oh yeah. I forgot about that miniseries.
Makes sense, especially since both Ferrell and Myers really took off thanks to stints on SNL. Yet I wonder how this movie only slightly hurt Ferrell’s career instead of completely ending it like with Myers.
@@heymistercarter. Ferrell's lucky he has a lifetime pass thanks to Anchorman. You'd think Myers would have that with Wayne's World, Austin Powers, and Shrek but I guess not.
Next time is the classic disaster cats
Thanks for the warning 😂 I know you are going to tear this movie to shreds😂
I will never understand why you didn't skyrocket to way more subs and views years ago. It"s a damn shame. You may not have their "production value" but IMO you've always been funnier and a better actual movie critic than Nostalgia Critic or others of the same kind. I'm really glad you still continue your reviews after all this time :)
I did not expect to be discombobulated with the clips shown in this movie, but somehow I got there before you could even say "From minute one, we are already in trouble."
at the time this came out, I was nannying for a guy who was a regular in Adam Sandler movies. The man was in Jack and Jill and came home one day announcing how bad this movie was lol
Welcome my good people as we take a look at a movie that was so bad, reports of people walking out of the theater in the middle of the movie was on a few news channels on TH-cam.
At the end of it all, we are almost done with this journey of tackling every film that has won Worst Picture.
As for next time, I dread the day you witness that monster. Prayers go to you, Sean.
He saw it when it came out and did a vlog. Needless to say, he was quite horrified.
@@coolnerdlll6053 I know. I was referring to when he actually reviews it next time.
You can hear the other critics in purrfect harmony, "One of us...."
3:48 "Music by Mark Mothersbaugh"
Aww man, how'd they rope him into this mess?
With all the surprising amount of talent that was in this stinker I’m kind of shocked that no one has made trading cards with all the actors who are too good for this movie.
This movie was so bad that Sony tried to sell the distribution rights to Netflix, which they declined. You know a movie's bad when even Netflix says no to it.
6:30
*Watson walks in on Holmes with a woman*
"HOLMES!? WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL GIRL IS THAT?!"
"Elementary my dear Watson, Elementary"
...there I made the cursed joke
I was on business at Chatham Historic Dockyard on a day the venue was closed for filming parts of Holmes and Watson. The crew were stressed out due to rewrites, and morale was terrible.
Steve Coogan and John C. Riley were in the really good 'Stan and Ollie' [about the later years of Laurel+ Hardy] around the same time. Coogan remarked 'If you want to avoid laughing, watch 'Holmes and Watson'. You should be pretty safe with that'. He also stated 'In 20 years when the dust has settled and people can look at the film objectively...people will still think it's rubbish!'
Ethan Coen’s birthday is 14 March 1974: which is exactly 25 years before my birthday
Step brothers just okay? That is a comedy classic no matter how dumb it is.
@@AlexAndre-cu5titrash can be funny
@@AlexAndre-cu5tiwhat did you not like about it?
You two are basically talking to nobody since that user doesn't exist anymore. Those responses should be deleted.
3:08 "Just okay"? HERETIC! How dare you not love Boats and Hoes!
Having watched the next film you're covering: Good luck. You're going to need it. The railway cat song does slap, though.
Yes a lot of people have torn this movie a new one.
You thought this Razzie awards was questionable, wait until you get to 2021 when they decide to shit on the My Pillow guy, and give his documentary worst picture. As bad as it is, and while I love a good dunk on Republicans, Sia's movie Music should have won worst picture that year, because while Absolute Proof was a dumb movie, Music was downright offensive in how it portrayed Autism.
As offensive as Music was, Absolute Proof supported the conspiracy theory that actually got people killed on Jan 6.
Given the Razzie’s love for lame jokes, I’m a bit surprised that Music wasn’t nominated for worse remake, rip-off, or sequel; as a ripoff of Simple Jack from Tropic Thunder.
They clearly just wanted the 'click bait' topicality with that choice, especially as it's hardly a 'film'. They even bent the rules so it could be included as it should have been in the 2021 awards but no one would have cared by then.
"Cats" is next, by the way.
Should have waaaaaaaay more to say about that.
Although maybe not, since the overall vibe is mostly just "WHAT"
I'am glad to see that Oliver Wood got a Job after Hogwarts that has nothing to do with Quidditch. But Oli...DoP in this concoction?
Oh really? How bad can the winner of the 40th golden raspberry awards be?
_(sees that it's Cats (2019))_
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....Godspeed, Smeghead.
Godspeed.
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For your next.....
Welcome to your doom....
Here's some catnip, laser pens, and a blindfold intended to cover bulges you can't unsee.
"I have ten commandments. The first nine are, thou shalt not bore", says the quote by Billy Wilder (who, by the way, was a lot more successful than whatever this is in making a light-hearted Sherlock film with "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes")
Ralph Breaks the Internet did a far better joke of a Kelly MacDonald character's Scottish accent than this film did.
Agreed all around! Also, #WGAStrong #ImWithTheWriters
I would classify Holmes & Watson as a ripoff, as it's a 100% non-canon usage of well-known characters. Fanfiction levels
The Queen was played by Pamela Farris, who's amazing and deserves so much better than this.
Oh my god are you serious!!?
@@LaineMann What do you mean?
Hey Sean, big fan of your videos. It looks like you'll be caught up on the Worst Picture Project before the year is over and have you thought about what you might want to review afterwards? May I suggest The Spirit or the 1998 Godzilla?
NC made my favorite review of The Spirit but with how weird the movie is I really want Shaun to do it! 😅
I’d like to see Sean review The Master of Disguise.
Yesss!
Nothing else to say, just happy you're reviewing it!
I knew how bad this was going to be from watching the trailer. I was only surprised that anyone actually paid to see it
One of the worst comedy films of 2018 that i never saw.
Wait, you hate Step Brothers? But pretty much a lot of people I’ve seen have considered it even better than Talladega Nights. And as a guy who also loved Talladega Nights, I agree as it’s entertaining as hell.
I personally hated that movie
...uh, he DIDN'T say he hates 'Step Brothers'; he said 'Step Brothers' was "just okay". Where are you getting that he hates it?
I think you need a new dictionary, my dude. The one you have is labeled "antonyms".
@@foxstarkiller and he’s nuts. That movie was awesome. It certainly was better than this.
Oh god this movie!! Dad and I wanted to see a movie in theaters some time in December to escape the scorching Australian summer, and we picked this crap-tastrophe. We lasted all of 15-20 mins before we *did* to decide to walk out, so I can personally attest to reports of that happening. Idk how long into the movie we actually lasted, never double checked it, but we didn't even bother trying to get our money back. We decided going home and sweating with no AC was more bearable than this tripe.
Edit: the Australian cut of this film was arguably even worse than the American one. We here Down Under got an alternate version of the opening scene that doesn't portray them as children, but shows them meeting as adults. Watson was about to jump off a roof into Holmes' garden, and thinks Holmes' pleas to move on and jump somewhere else so he doesn't ruin his garden, as genuine cries to not end his life and thinks Holmes is being compassionate and kind.
Yes really.
The punchline of Watson falling off accidentally and landing and crushing a large prized fruit/vegetable was as predictable as this film flopping at the box office.
Also, I'm told this alternate opening ruins a running "joke" of Holmes being unable to show emotion that the schoolyard scene was supposed to set up. I wouldn't have known as I didn't even get that far into the movie.
Yes! It's always a good day when a new CE drops.
Popcorn at the ready. let's get excremental.
You are one of my favorite channels to watch.
No mention that Queen Victoria died in 1901, 11 years before the Titanic sank on its maiden voyage and could not have possibly coexisted.
No mention that Sherlock and Holmes would probably die on that ship, because... you know: "Women and children first!" And all the other people that died.
Me thinks they didn't think that joke through at all... 🫥
@@fermintenava5911 What about this film _WAS_ thought through?🤨
This is the earliest I've ever caught a video. I am so glad I missed this movie.
oh, Braun Strowman, you deserve better!
yeah, you heard me!
I kind of feel bad for actors who's worst stuff becomes their most well known stuff, cause it overshadows how good they can be otherwise. Will Ferrell isn't always great, but he has some solid roles, and John C. Reilly is genuinely a great actor. This goes for actors like Adam Sandler too, since he can give powerhouse performances, just doesn't always care.
Problem here is the lead can’t be a genius and a moron at the same time.
"The Yeesh stands"
Gah, I really wish you had more subscribers, your work is excellent! I expect some of it comes from the word 'excrement' not appearing in search, but you can't really change that. Anyway, keep it up!
Fun fact: there are many scenes where a newspaper is shown, the newspaper will often have a date on it along with the weekday, well get this: they keep getting the weekday of each paper wrong
I went to see it the day after Christmas with a group of friends at our local Alamo Drafthouse, and within 25 minutes we had all pretty much decided that it was not going to be a pleasant experience. The only thing we agreed on about that movie was the back that it was great that the theater served alcohol. That was honestly the only way we could get through it.
I actually can't believe I saw this in a public theater.
I literally went to see this in theaters on Christmas Day and me, my mom and my stepdad just couldn’t stop laughing…over how horrible it was.
Went to see this in theater since I love anything Sherlock Holmes. Walked out without regret after about an hour.
Another fun fact: Arthur Conan Doyle studied at the University of Edinburgh Medical School being awarded a MD in 1885. Also the school admitted women to limited courses in 1869, giving them equal access to courses in the late 1880's. [So no, Holmes would *not* have been surprised by female doctors, disapproving perhaps, but not in the least bit surprised].
There's a cameo towards the end of Billy Zane walking on to the titanic, which could have been a fun little cameo if they hadn´t pointed it out. They yell to him using his real name and wave and he waves back. I think that kind of sums up the film. They have to point everything out and tells us it's a joke.
Why does it always feel like Christmas morning when C.E. posts?