F.L.Y is one of the most incredible coasters I have ever ridden. From the theming to the layout to even the air time (Air Time on a flyer?!). Vekoma really outdone themselves with F.L.Y!
I feel most European theme parks don't have enough roller coasters to get to the point where a flying coaster adds to the line up. Most parks will opt to fill other voids first, perhaps?
F.L.Y really is just outstanding. The themeing of the land around it is brilliant even for its size, Fly literally is visible from every angle. The queue themeing is also great, especially the final stage where it turns into airport security - steampunk edition. Then the first time you see the train boarding facing you its a real surprise. The transition is incredibly smooth, my wife and I were both commenting afterwards how seemless it is. The comfort is definitely there as well, the restraints are brilliantly designed and comfortable throughout the ride. Truly a masterpeice of design, particularly given the challenges. Takes the top spot from Nemesis Alton Toweres for me.
After riding F.L.Y it really makes the earlier versions such as Air/Galactica a lot less enjoyable. Not just the way it feels, but the added theming present around the ride makes it one of the best coasters I've ridden. Granted, I still need to visit the states, so we'll see how long that lasts!
F.L.Y is phenomenal. The boarding is amazing, the twisting (to get to and from flat) feel so natural. Flying through the hotel is also amazing while on the ride, and adds so much to the feel of the ride. Even when you are in the hotel, it is amazing to be walking around the hotel or in your room while the coaster is operating it really adds to the theming of the hotel too.
Stealth actually debuted when the park was still Paramount's Great America. That was the park I spent most of my childhood weekends in. I remember when Stealth opened, it was so hyped up... but then it was closed the majority of the time it was there. And if you were on the ride when it malfunctioned, you were almost guaranteed to be staring up at the sun until they got someone to get you.
I don't really understand why there has been no park announcing a new gen Vekoma flying coaster so far. Rookburgh's theming is great and really really helps the experience. But unlike other highly themed rollercoasters this is an absolutely amazing ride itself. I wonder how the reliability actually is since it seems like Fly is closed more often than other rollercoasters in the parks and/or operates with less trains.
Firehawk at Kings Island, was one of my favorite roller coasters. It was equal parts terrifying and fun! The flip at the top was very scary. The ride up the lift hill on your back, was very interesting. One time I got stuck on the lift and that wasn't fun. It took over 2 hours to get us all down the hill.
I rode The Flying Dutchman a lot in 2000/2001. It was (probably still is) an amazing coaster. Going up the lift hill on your back and head first, staring at the sky, was so different and wild. Then the flip and diving to the ground...what a perfect start to an excellent ride. I loved that coaster.
Tatsu is my favourite. No sensation comes close to that pretzel loop in the back row. F.L.Y would definitely be my very very close 2nd. It was just brilliant in every aspect!
Super video, as always. You really took your time and passion in there. Although I think I always automatically get a headache even by only hearing "SLC". I am so glad Vekoma got so much better. :D
F.L.Y's highlight was the seating situation. I went in completely clueless and was surprised to see a the train when I walked in. The way it carries you upwards sideways, flips you over and puts you in position for the launch is an engineering masterpiece.
I've ridden F.L.Y. last year, and it was amazing! Two times front seat, and so far my favourite coaster! This year I am hoping to ride Acrobat at Nagashima spa land, and Superman at Six Flags Great Adventure. Both are B&M so will be interesting how they compare to F.L.Y. Really looking forward to it
You should've also mentioned the flat rides that put you in the flying position like the Huss Fly Away, Funtime SkyCoasters, I believe Zamperla also made a flying flat ride, etc.
F.L.Y. is so amazing! There is a small lifthill after the station, and the seats rotate at the end of it during a small curve towards the launch. It rides incredibly smooth, and even has a second launch! ANd the theming is amazing.
Fun fact only a coaster enthusiast would care about: at 3:58 when you mentioned Invertigo, that footage is actually from the Kings Island Invertigo, and with that color scheme means that that footage is only a few years old. In 1998 the KI one was called Face/ Off after the Paramount movie, and was red and yellow. I also just want to point out that I loved Firehawk, and keep hoping Kings Island will get the B&M flyer at some point.
I've ridden F.L.Y. and I have never had a better coaster experience in my life, I absolutely loved it and I highly recommend it for you to go ride it! My unbeatable number 1!
I feel like Zamperla's design is underrated. It might be a more "off-the-shelf"-type model, but it's not as rough as people make it out to be. Tomb Raider (now Time Warp) at Canada's Wonderland still provides a fun ride. And as long as people don't dawdle when in line, out can run through a lot of riders.
Only downside to Galactica is it’s a little short. It could have done with a couple more inversions, dives and turns. I think AT needs to focus on building coasters a bit longer like they did with the smiler.
I rode the original volare at Elich Gardens. Given that our options were a beat up Vekoma SLC and a brutal woody, it was actually pretty smooth comparatively.
Slight correction, the arms on B&M flying coasters are not pushed down with hydraulic pistons, but work off a cam system, driven by an electric motor, as clearly seen above the track.
Just arrived back from Europe and now having ridden FLY i can honestly say its an interesting ride, its not as fast as i expected and the secondary launch is there to give the train a little boost to complete the track and not as noticeable as other launch coasters. i found the seat rotation a novel experience and riding the first part of the lift sideways was fun and the ride itself was enjoyable with the near miss elements and passing over the heads of other guests in the area surrounding the ride. The one thing that lets this ride down is the restraints, this always seems to be an issue with Vekoma, I found them to be not as comfortable as the B&M ones and the angle that you are held at means that you have to really hold your head up throughout the ride to see where you are going which i found made my neck ache. overall i would give FLY a 5 out of 10, the lines were only about 20 minutes on the days we were there so rode it a few times but would rather ride a B&M flying coaster any time.
Until this video, I had completely forgotten that I rode the Volare at Prater Park years ago. I think i forgot it for the reason mentioned; it was not a fun ride, and the cage-like restrictions made it feel as if I wasn't actually secured at all. Luckily, last year I got to ride FLY several times! What a world of difference. I'm not the biggest fan of flying coasters, but it's an incredibly unique experience
Hello There, a great Video which is really detailed and it's great to see how the complexities of how Flying Rollercoasters work and how they've managed to develop overtime. Thank you for sharing this, it's much appreciated. Cheers Peter :-)
I gotta say, as unpopular as it might be to /some/ people, Flying coasters, and ANY suspended coasters, tend to be my favorites. The sensations are just so unique. Thanks so much for doing a vid and tribute of sorts, to this kind of ride. Great stuff!
I have heard that F.L.Y is a lot more comfortable because you don't spend time on the brake run facing down which can be very uncomfortable. Like everyone else I would rather forget about the volares exist
Heading to Phantasiland in September and looking forward to trying Fly, having been on several flying coasters it will be interesting to see how it compares
Galacticair, while far from the best coaster I've ever ridden, will always be my favourite. Its like a work of art, not striving for thrill or airtime like most coasters I've experienced, but more. The only way to describe it is as flying, a sensation that I didn't feel was well achieved in Manta at Seaworld Orlando. F.L.Y is currently my #1 bucket list coaster; beyond Taron, beyond Ride To Happiness, even beyond Iron Gwazi. I would kill to experience Galactica for the first time again, and this seems like so much more. Plus, I love steampunk. I hope to conquer in next year, but only money will tell
I agree, Galactica/Air does the feeling of flight better than Manta. Though the pretzel loop is pretty awesome. I'm sure you'd love FLY, hopefully you can get out there soon :)
So far i have only been on F.l.y but this year i will (finally) get to alton Towers, i am so hyped for Galactica :D I think flying coasters in general are an amazing idea. My first ride on Fly felt like riding rollercoasters again for the first time
The complexity certainly is amusing -- 50% of the times I've gone to ride Tatsu there's been a mechanical problem/delay, including me being stuck in the flying position (in the station) for 10+ minutes. :P Dang worth it though, back in '88 a young me was sketching ideas on how to do a flying coaster, and the experience is as wild and unique as I'd hoped it would be. Very excited for the new design of F.L.Y., it's on my bucket list for sure! :)
The restraints aren't locked on dispatch, they are locked after checking manually per row by the hosts who have "latch" and "lock" options for restraints.
The duel station on Batwing and X flight were useless since the parks didn't have the budget for the extra staff it would have taken to run both sides. Vekoma originally planned to install the two rides at kings dominion (batwing) and kings island (X flight) as they had an exclusivity deal since paramount parks helped vekoma to develop the ride. KD ended up with hypersonic which was an even worse prototype attraction than the flying dutchman.
Sad news about California’s Great America: The park is set to close forever in a few years to make room for development…of apartment buildings. If you want to go to CGA better make it soon!
F.L.Y. looks incredible. I understand why Phantasialand has been strict about making sure there aren't any POVs of the ride readily available, but I keep trying to find one anyway. Yes, I'm aware I'm a hypocrite.
I always feel incredibly unsafe in flying coasters, Especially when riding through high G curves. Granted, the only one I ever been on was F.L.Y, but still.
I went on Hero @ Flamingo Land today. It was the roughest coaster I've ever been on. I'm going to Alton Towers soon and hopefully Galactica won't be as bad! So far I've had a bad impression of flying coasters 😂
The history of going from "expensive, problematic and unreliable" to what we have today makes me wonder if anyone could do the same for the 4D coaster (X2, etc.). That's one coaster type I'm sad there isn't more of.
I'm SO glad you brought that up! X2 is one of my all time favs, out of the 600+ coasters I've ridden. I just wish it could be smoother and more accommodating. Then again, that might ruin the insanity that it is. LOL And I don't think you and I are alone in the sentiment that There aren't enough of them out there. Winged coasters in general, are uncommon for the industry. But maybe we are a rare breed- nut jobs who love to be spun, abused, and intoxicated by our thrill rides.
@@batshtcrazy5293 Smoother is definitely possible for a 4D coaster - Eejanaika at Fuji-Q Highland in Japan is extremely comfortable while being utterly insane. But the throughput is terrible - possibly due to park decisions to require shoe-removal and not seeming to care about getting trains out quickly. I would love to see more of them with Eejanaika's level of polish at parks that have better attention to operations but I am pretty sure they are madly expensive.
@@batshtcrazy5293I only rode one once (X2), but it left an impression for sure. The only time I felt genuine fear during a ride! Sadly I don't think I'll be riding one again any time soon, as I live thousands of miles from the nearest. Hence it would be quite nice to have one in Europe.
@iceblade019 I'm not talking about the free spins. I'm referring X2, Dinoconda, and Eejanaika. I mean, I know how they work - there is an additional tube that runs along the track that differs slightly in height. On the trains, there's an additional wheel that, based on the height of the extra tube, rotates the seat. This has to be done everywhere on track. The calculations to this must have been super complex, and I feel like it's much more complex than just having a coaster train tilt 90° and lock into position. I might be wrong, tho, it's only my opinion, I haven't researched whether this is actually more complex
@@denniscielaszyk51184D coasters are more complex along the track, but flying coasters are more complex in a station, not only with it's mechanism, but also with it's software
@@triple7marc They very well could be. I don’t know enough about the launch mechanism to comment. I know they’re finicky and high maintenance which is why every new coaster with a launch seems to use LSM’s these days. It’s a shame because the hydraulic launch accelerates significantly harder than LSM’s do.
I was underwhelmed by flys layout and its slightly uncomfortable for me since i get a sharp pain in my breast when its pushed against but its still my top 3 and its really cool
As an engineer, I would say the Intamin Hydraulic Launch coaster is far more complex than B&Ms flying coasters, by quite a large margin too. B&M have the most complex trains yes, but not coaster.
Great video! Honestly i was underwhelmed by F.L.Y, I feel the trains are too long for the profiling and length of the launches, also the 70° tilt makes it awkward in terms of looking forwards :/ it's a fun ride but not a top 10 in Europe imo
@@coasterbot Taron very very closely followed by Black Mamba :) I'm looking forward to the next new-gen Vekoma flyers either way, I think there's a lot of potential
I've been on Galactica, Tatsu, Two Superman clones and most recently the flying dutchman model Nighthawk (or as you say used to be called Stealth) at Carowinds which I rode April 2023. I loved the latter's double looping fly to lie, but the rest was rough, especially the corkscrew. (I guess I should have ridden in car four instead of car six; so that's my bad.) then The Superman clones come next; boring if it wasn't for the Pretzel loop. Tatsu is the best B&M flying coaster I've ridden. I'm still pretty sure it's not as good as Flying Dinosaur in Japan or the best for all: F.L.I. at Phantasialand, neither of which I've ridden yet. (BTW Invertigo; the inverted Boomerang I rode at Kings Island in June was good, better than the regular boomerang I rode in 2021 at Canada Wonderland which is so much worse it doesn't deserve to be compared to it.) In conclusion: Flying coaters that I've ridden so far aren't my favourite coasters but F.L.I. looks like it could be one of my favourite coasters in the world. On another note: I wonder of Ostriches dream about Flying coasters. It must be worse for birds who can't fly than it is for humans. I think Ostriches are gonna be the best designers of flying coasters in the future. ;) Thanks for posting!
Both Flying Dinosaur and FLY seem to one-up pretty much every other flying coaster out there. They're not my favourite ride types either but I'm sure if I rode those two they'd be up there!
Thanks for the ❤, back at you and yours. I only hope I figure out how to do your annual "rank the coasters you've ridden" list. My next coaster I plan to ride won't be until June 2024 at Holiday world for the coaster 'thusie event which I won't be able to get to unless I can obtain my official coaster 'thusie badge which I may never be able to figure out either. But I've come this far, so I won't give up. The good news is this: every year I can't figure out the best coasters list: I ride more coasters, making my past list I couldn't figure out how to enter outdated anyway! Just like coasters: everything worth loving evolves even if other things dissolve.
@@coasterbot I agree Flying Dinosaur and F.L.I are the best Flying coasters as well as the B&M Flying coaster with a double fly to lie and back in China, NON of which I've ridden yet. I'm ok with it, for now. ;)
The 'What is' series never left, it's just not called 'What is' anymore. Here's the latest one about Cannibal: th-cam.com/video/QZ4uoGtsNEw/w-d-xo.html
Jinma Rides is joining the flying coaster industry with one being built right now in China. And others copy the Zamperla Volares. So I'm actually fine with not mentioning them at all. 😂
10:12 bro, why you gotta say *THICK* like that 😂😂😂 I also find it hard to believe that these have more complexity than a ride who's seats have controlled rotations over the entire track (talking about the Arrow 4D, ofc :p tho admittedly those didn't really take off [no pun intended ;p] like these did)
@@flyin_with_ryan the family launch coaster, which is new for them. Although it’s not innovative due to manufacturers doing it for 10+ years now. Along with the surf coaster which is literally a stand up with a launch and a more unconventional layout.
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I didn't realize F.L.Y. boarded like that. It looks truly amazing
Me neither
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its so incredibleunreal and smooth. I did know what was going to happen, but my brother not. his reaction was gold!
F.L.Y is one of the most incredible coasters I have ever ridden. From the theming to the layout to even the air time (Air Time on a flyer?!). Vekoma really outdone themselves with F.L.Y!
Great to hear, hopefully that means we'll see a few more be built!
I'm going soon and I'm genuinely so excited to ride it! I love Galactica (Air) at Alton Towers and F.L.Y seems to take it to the next level!
Flew on FLY like 20 times and I can say: It's a revolution 😍 great experience
FLY looks incredible! 😄
@@coasterbot haven’t been to Phantasialand since it opened?
It's definitely a revolution. It makes me throw up the fastest of all coasters I've been in... :p
It's always interesting to me that Europe has so little flying coasters even though the concept was introduced in Europe.
I feel most European theme parks don't have enough roller coasters to get to the point where a flying coaster adds to the line up. Most parks will opt to fill other voids first, perhaps?
We have 2 of them and both are first of its kind and one of them one of the best if not the best flying coaster in the world
@@extrakubik4123unfortunately it’s 3 (and I say unfortunately because I wish hero didn’t exist lol)
@@derekconwaygdthats not a flying coaster its a torture machine
@@derekconwaygd Than 4 because Prater also haves one or thet at least did when I was there
F.L.Y. is one of the best coasters in the world, there is literally nothing like it ❤
I hope that there will be, because one new gen vekoma flying coaster in the world just isn't enough!
Nothing like it, yet! 🤔
F.L.Y really is just outstanding. The themeing of the land around it is brilliant even for its size, Fly literally is visible from every angle. The queue themeing is also great, especially the final stage where it turns into airport security - steampunk edition. Then the first time you see the train boarding facing you its a real surprise. The transition is incredibly smooth, my wife and I were both commenting afterwards how seemless it is. The comfort is definitely there as well, the restraints are brilliantly designed and comfortable throughout the ride. Truly a masterpeice of design, particularly given the challenges. Takes the top spot from Nemesis Alton Toweres for me.
It's great to hear that you enjoyed FLY so much! It definitely looks like Vekoma have refined the flying coaster even further :)
After riding F.L.Y it really makes the earlier versions such as Air/Galactica a lot less enjoyable. Not just the way it feels, but the added theming present around the ride makes it one of the best coasters I've ridden. Granted, I still need to visit the states, so we'll see how long that lasts!
I'm not sure we'll ever see another flying coaster that heavily themed, so enjoy FLY!
F.L.Y is phenomenal. The boarding is amazing, the twisting (to get to and from flat) feel so natural. Flying through the hotel is also amazing while on the ride, and adds so much to the feel of the ride. Even when you are in the hotel, it is amazing to be walking around the hotel or in your room while the coaster is operating it really adds to the theming of the hotel too.
Words cannot begin to describe the experience that is F.L.Y.
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There is certainly one word that perfectly describes the experience... so they made it the Name of the ride ;)
Stealth actually debuted when the park was still Paramount's Great America. That was the park I spent most of my childhood weekends in. I remember when Stealth opened, it was so hyped up... but then it was closed the majority of the time it was there. And if you were on the ride when it malfunctioned, you were almost guaranteed to be staring up at the sun until they got someone to get you.
I did get to ride Flying Coaster at Elitch Gardens, which is a bit of a rare credit I think!
Despite being so short galactica is still one of my favourite rollercoasters, and i actually prefer it to the more intense flying coasters ive been on
Interesting to hear, Galactica is a lot of fun :)
I don't really understand why there has been no park announcing a new gen Vekoma flying coaster so far. Rookburgh's theming is great and really really helps the experience. But unlike other highly themed rollercoasters this is an absolutely amazing ride itself. I wonder how the reliability actually is since it seems like Fly is closed more often than other rollercoasters in the parks and/or operates with less trains.
Firehawk at Kings Island, was one of my favorite roller coasters. It was equal parts terrifying and fun! The flip at the top was very scary. The ride up the lift hill on your back, was very interesting. One time I got stuck on the lift and that wasn't fun. It took over 2 hours to get us all down the hill.
I just want to mention that I love how you transition between 16:9 and 4:3 footage.
Thanks that means a lot 😊
Only ever ridden Galactica as a flying coaster. Loved it though so can’t wait for more
Galactica is awesome!
Damn Vekoma really went for the third time is the charm there. Good on them for not giving up on the concept after a few failures, FLY looks awesome
100%
I rode The Flying Dutchman a lot in 2000/2001. It was (probably still is) an amazing coaster. Going up the lift hill on your back and head first, staring at the sky, was so different and wild. Then the flip and diving to the ground...what a perfect start to an excellent ride. I loved that coaster.
Tatsu is my favourite. No sensation comes close to that pretzel loop in the back row.
F.L.Y would definitely be my very very close 2nd. It was just brilliant in every aspect!
The pretzel loop is the one thing I dont like, it feels wrong
Super video, as always. You really took your time and passion in there.
Although I think I always automatically get a headache even by only hearing "SLC". I am so glad Vekoma got so much better. :D
Thanks for the kind words! I'm really glad Vekoma has improved too
F.L.Y's highlight was the seating situation. I went in completely clueless and was surprised to see a the train when I walked in. The way it carries you upwards sideways, flips you over and puts you in position for the launch is an engineering masterpiece.
X flight at Six Flags / Geauga Lake Ohio/ Firehawk at Kings Island was my first and only flying coaster experience and it was so incredible
I've ridden F.L.Y. last year, and it was amazing! Two times front seat, and so far my favourite coaster! This year I am hoping to ride Acrobat at Nagashima spa land, and Superman at Six Flags Great Adventure. Both are B&M so will be interesting how they compare to F.L.Y. Really looking forward to it
That's awesome to hear. I'm sure the B&M flying coasters will give quite a different feeling compared to FLY :)
You should've also mentioned the flat rides that put you in the flying position like the Huss Fly Away, Funtime SkyCoasters, I believe Zamperla also made a flying flat ride, etc.
Good point, there are a few flying flat rides!
I'm lucky to have the tallest flying coaster, Tatsu at my home park, Six Flags Magic Mountain. The pretzel loop just never gets old!
F.L.Y. is so amazing! There is a small lifthill after the station, and the seats rotate at the end of it during a small curve towards the launch. It rides incredibly smooth, and even has a second launch! ANd the theming is amazing.
It certainly looks amazing! :)
Fun fact only a coaster enthusiast would care about: at 3:58 when you mentioned Invertigo, that footage is actually from the Kings Island Invertigo, and with that color scheme means that that footage is only a few years old. In 1998 the KI one was called Face/ Off after the Paramount movie, and was red and yellow.
I also just want to point out that I loved Firehawk, and keep hoping Kings Island will get the B&M flyer at some point.
I've ridden F.L.Y. and I have never had a better coaster experience in my life, I absolutely loved it and I highly recommend it for you to go ride it! My unbeatable number 1!
I feel like Zamperla's design is underrated. It might be a more "off-the-shelf"-type model, but it's not as rough as people make it out to be. Tomb Raider (now Time Warp) at Canada's Wonderland still provides a fun ride. And as long as people don't dawdle when in line, out can run through a lot of riders.
Only downside to Galactica is it’s a little short. It could have done with a couple more inversions, dives and turns. I think AT needs to focus on building coasters a bit longer like they did with the smiler.
Longer Towers coasters would be great!
Yer instead of a gimmick coster
Air is the only coaster I've ever enjoyed, mostly because it is 'gentler'. I did wonder why this was so thank you for the lesson!
I'm glad you learnt something new!
I rode the original volare at Elich Gardens. Given that our options were a beat up Vekoma SLC and a brutal woody, it was actually pretty smooth comparatively.
Oooof ha ha 🤣
Slight correction, the arms on B&M flying coasters are not pushed down with hydraulic pistons, but work off a cam system, driven by an electric motor, as clearly seen above the track.
Just arrived back from Europe and now having ridden FLY i can honestly say its an interesting ride, its not as fast as i expected and the secondary launch is there to give the train a little boost to complete the track and not as noticeable as other launch coasters. i found the seat rotation a novel experience and riding the first part of the lift sideways was fun and the ride itself was enjoyable with the near miss elements and passing over the heads of other guests in the area surrounding the ride.
The one thing that lets this ride down is the restraints, this always seems to be an issue with Vekoma, I found them to be not as comfortable as the B&M ones and the angle that you are held at means that you have to really hold your head up throughout the ride to see where you are going which i found made my neck ache. overall i would give FLY a 5 out of 10, the lines were only about 20 minutes on the days we were there so rode it a few times but would rather ride a B&M flying coaster any time.
People seem to get a wastly diffrente experience with the restraints... i personally hate the b&m vests, but could sleep on fly
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
I will die on the hill that F.L.Y is the best ride in the park! There are very few more intense moments than the pretzel loop on the B&M flyers.
FLY does look incredible!
F.L.Y. has been my only flying coaster so far but I sure love it.
Galactica is super comfy and great fun. My first ride was at night too, after fireworks this year.
Until this video, I had completely forgotten that I rode the Volare at Prater Park years ago. I think i forgot it for the reason mentioned; it was not a fun ride, and the cage-like restrictions made it feel as if I wasn't actually secured at all.
Luckily, last year I got to ride FLY several times! What a world of difference. I'm not the biggest fan of flying coasters, but it's an incredibly unique experience
10:27 it’s actually done by an electric motor, the pistons you see on the train and the arms in the station are shock absorbers.
Hello There, a great Video which is really detailed and it's great to see how the complexities of how Flying Rollercoasters work and how they've managed to develop overtime. Thank you for sharing this, it's much appreciated. Cheers Peter :-)
Thanks for the kind words Peter!
@@coasterbot Hello There, you're welcome, this is well deserved. Cheers Peter :)
I gotta say, as unpopular as it might be to /some/ people, Flying coasters, and ANY suspended coasters, tend to be my favorites. The sensations are just so unique. Thanks so much for doing a vid and tribute of sorts, to this kind of ride. Great stuff!
The sensations are super unique! Thanks for watching :)
Glad to see my home park Six flags america get some screen time.
I have heard that F.L.Y is a lot more comfortable because you don't spend time on the brake run facing down which can be very uncomfortable. Like everyone else I would rather forget about the volares exist
It's a very clever idea to solve that problem. And yeah same!
Heading to Phantasiland in September and looking forward to trying Fly, having been on several flying coasters it will be interesting to see how it compares
Have a fantastic time!
Galacticair, while far from the best coaster I've ever ridden, will always be my favourite. Its like a work of art, not striving for thrill or airtime like most coasters I've experienced, but more. The only way to describe it is as flying, a sensation that I didn't feel was well achieved in Manta at Seaworld Orlando.
F.L.Y is currently my #1 bucket list coaster; beyond Taron, beyond Ride To Happiness, even beyond Iron Gwazi. I would kill to experience Galactica for the first time again, and this seems like so much more. Plus, I love steampunk. I hope to conquer in next year, but only money will tell
I agree, Galactica/Air does the feeling of flight better than Manta. Though the pretzel loop is pretty awesome.
I'm sure you'd love FLY, hopefully you can get out there soon :)
So far i have only been on F.l.y but this year i will (finally) get to alton Towers, i am so hyped for Galactica :D
I think flying coasters in general are an amazing idea. My first ride on Fly felt like riding rollercoasters again for the first time
Only ridden Manta & Superman at SFGA, they were both amazing! Also rode 2 of the Flying Dutchmans but that doesnt count! 😂🤷♂️
F.L.Y is so good. T he inversions are so good
You know it's a good weekend when Coasterbot uploads ❤
Hell yeah 😍
I could see Cedar Fair purchasing some of either B&M or Vekoma flying coasters (like Vekoma fly as a example)
That would be cool to see!
The complexity certainly is amusing -- 50% of the times I've gone to ride Tatsu there's been a mechanical problem/delay, including me being stuck in the flying position (in the station) for 10+ minutes. :P Dang worth it though, back in '88 a young me was sketching ideas on how to do a flying coaster, and the experience is as wild and unique as I'd hoped it would be. Very excited for the new design of F.L.Y., it's on my bucket list for sure! :)
Tatsu looks incredible! I'm glad you think the slight unreliability is worth it! 😄
The restraints aren't locked on dispatch, they are locked after checking manually per row by the hosts who have "latch" and "lock" options for restraints.
My bet is that someone will create a flying wing coaster next!
Whether it's supported or suspended wouldn't matter with a wing style design either
i just missed fly when i went to phantasia land, shame because galactica is really good and i'd love to ride another take on the concept
Love it! 🔥
Tatsu is incredible!!
Great to hear!
It was my favorite coaster until I rode F.L.Y. ...
Awesome video Harry! F.L.Y is technological wonder.
Thanks! It really is 😄
The duel station on Batwing and X flight were useless since the parks didn't have the budget for the extra staff it would have taken to run both sides. Vekoma originally planned to install the two rides at kings dominion (batwing) and kings island (X flight) as they had an exclusivity deal since paramount parks helped vekoma to develop the ride. KD ended up with hypersonic which was an even worse prototype attraction than the flying dutchman.
Ooof hypersonic is worse!
In contrast to the other Flying Coasters F.L.Y. is just incredible.
Sad news about California’s Great America: The park is set to close forever in a few years to make room for development…of apartment buildings. If you want to go to CGA better make it soon!
I sure hope we see more F. L. Y. type coasters. That looks way too good to be one of a kind. Or even on only one continent.
So true
F.L.Y. looks incredible. I understand why Phantasialand has been strict about making sure there aren't any POVs of the ride readily available, but I keep trying to find one anyway. Yes, I'm aware I'm a hypocrite.
Phantasialand are super strict, you're not allowed to film in the station either!
I always feel incredibly unsafe in flying coasters, Especially when riding through high G curves. Granted, the only one I ever been on was F.L.Y, but still.
You should do one of these on suspended and inverted coasters!
Great suggestions, thanks!
I went on Hero @ Flamingo Land today. It was the roughest coaster I've ever been on. I'm going to Alton Towers soon and hopefully Galactica won't be as bad! So far I've had a bad impression of flying coasters 😂
Galactica is the complete opposite to Hero, it's smooth and comfortable!
You got some info from el toro Ryan’s video on the Flying Dutchman model on Superman
I've heard it's a good video, but I haven't watched it! ☺️
The history of going from "expensive, problematic and unreliable" to what we have today makes me wonder if anyone could do the same for the 4D coaster (X2, etc.). That's one coaster type I'm sad there isn't more of.
I'm SO glad you brought that up! X2 is one of my all time favs, out of the 600+ coasters I've ridden. I just wish it could be smoother and more accommodating. Then again, that might ruin the insanity that it is. LOL
And I don't think you and I are alone in the sentiment that There aren't enough of them out there. Winged coasters in general, are uncommon for the industry. But maybe we are a rare breed- nut jobs who love to be spun, abused, and intoxicated by our thrill rides.
@@batshtcrazy5293 Smoother is definitely possible for a 4D coaster - Eejanaika at Fuji-Q Highland in Japan is extremely comfortable while being utterly insane. But the throughput is terrible - possibly due to park decisions to require shoe-removal and not seeming to care about getting trains out quickly. I would love to see more of them with Eejanaika's level of polish at parks that have better attention to operations but I am pretty sure they are madly expensive.
@@batshtcrazy5293I only rode one once (X2), but it left an impression for sure. The only time I felt genuine fear during a ride! Sadly I don't think I'll be riding one again any time soon, as I live thousands of miles from the nearest.
Hence it would be quite nice to have one in Europe.
Tatsu is my favorite B&M alongside Mako!
That's awesome!
Great channel great videos!!
Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you like them! :)
FLY is a unique experience especially if you put your arms out in front and let your upper body take all the momentum.
Rode flying dinosaur at USJ. The only way i can describe it as... Unique. It was super fun
It looks incredibly awesome!
Haven't seen the whole video yet. But regarding the title: I feel like the 4d coasters or tilt coaster(s) are much more complex
4D Freespins are relatively simple, and in terms of the entire system, i don’t think the Arrow/S&S 4D system require nearly as complex a system
@iceblade019 I'm not talking about the free spins. I'm referring X2, Dinoconda, and Eejanaika. I mean, I know how they work - there is an additional tube that runs along the track that differs slightly in height. On the trains, there's an additional wheel that, based on the height of the extra tube, rotates the seat. This has to be done everywhere on track. The calculations to this must have been super complex, and I feel like it's much more complex than just having a coaster train tilt 90° and lock into position. I might be wrong, tho, it's only my opinion, I haven't researched whether this is actually more complex
@@denniscielaszyk51184D coasters are more complex along the track, but flying coasters are more complex in a station, not only with it's mechanism, but also with it's software
@@denniscielaszyk5118 yeah I said the arrow/s&s 4D like X2 don’t require as complex a system
Very informative.
Thank you ONF Gaming my friend
I only rode fly. So I feel like i'm spoiled now 😅
More complex than 4D coasters like X2? Or how about a Mack Spinner like Ride to Happiness? Those both seem quite complex to me.
I think the most complicated roller coasters out there are the hydraulic launch coasters tbh
@@triple7marc They very well could be. I don’t know enough about the launch mechanism to comment. I know they’re finicky and high maintenance which is why every new coaster with a launch seems to use LSM’s these days.
It’s a shame because the hydraulic launch accelerates significantly harder than LSM’s do.
I was underwhelmed by flys layout and its slightly uncomfortable for me since i get a sharp pain in my breast when its pushed against but its still my top 3 and its really cool
As an engineer, I would say the Intamin Hydraulic Launch coaster is far more complex than B&Ms flying coasters, by quite a large margin too. B&M have the most complex trains yes, but not coaster.
What prevents the flying coaster from unlocking and turning into an inverted coaster?
Bolts.
Multiple pins that lock into position and secure the seat row to the chassis.
Is the hexenbemzen a fly coaster in thale. Rcdb say it is.
I wonder what song was being used at 16:26.............
Yeah fly is just great
It looks it!
@@coasterbot never been at phantasialand? You missing out man
Great video! Honestly i was underwhelmed by F.L.Y, I feel the trains are too long for the profiling and length of the launches, also the 70° tilt makes it awkward in terms of looking forwards :/ it's a fun ride but not a top 10 in Europe imo
Thanks! Interesting to hear, did you prefer Taron at Phantasialand instead?
@@coasterbot Taron very very closely followed by Black Mamba :)
I'm looking forward to the next new-gen Vekoma flyers either way, I think there's a lot of potential
I am watching this on my break from working on nighthawk
Hell yeah!
2:57 it looks like a Banshee from Halo
12:30 which destroyed my back!
I've been on Galactica, Tatsu, Two Superman clones and most recently the flying dutchman model Nighthawk (or as you say used to be called Stealth) at Carowinds which I rode April 2023. I loved the latter's double looping fly to lie, but the rest was rough, especially the corkscrew. (I guess I should have ridden in car four instead of car six; so that's my bad.)
then The Superman clones come next; boring if it wasn't for the Pretzel loop. Tatsu is the best B&M flying coaster I've ridden. I'm still pretty sure it's not as good as Flying Dinosaur in Japan or the best for all: F.L.I. at Phantasialand, neither of which I've ridden yet. (BTW Invertigo; the inverted Boomerang I rode at Kings Island in June was good, better than the regular boomerang I rode in 2021 at Canada Wonderland which is so much worse it doesn't deserve to be compared to it.) In conclusion: Flying coaters that I've ridden so far aren't my favourite coasters but F.L.I. looks like it could be one of my favourite coasters in the world.
On another note: I wonder of Ostriches dream about Flying coasters. It must be worse for birds who can't fly than it is for humans. I think Ostriches are gonna be the best designers of flying coasters in the future. ;) Thanks for posting!
Both Flying Dinosaur and FLY seem to one-up pretty much every other flying coaster out there.
They're not my favourite ride types either but I'm sure if I rode those two they'd be up there!
Thanks for the ❤, back at you and yours. I only hope I figure out how to do your annual "rank the coasters you've ridden" list. My next coaster I plan to ride won't be until June 2024 at Holiday world for the coaster 'thusie event which I won't be able to get to unless I can obtain my official coaster 'thusie badge which I may never be able to figure out either.
But I've come this far, so I won't give up. The good news is this: every year I can't figure out the best coasters list: I ride more coasters, making my past list I couldn't figure out how to enter outdated anyway!
Just like coasters: everything worth loving evolves even if other things dissolve.
@@coasterbot I agree Flying Dinosaur and F.L.I are the best Flying coasters as well as the B&M Flying coaster with a double fly to lie and back in China, NON of which I've ridden yet. I'm ok with it, for now. ;)
If flying took as much effort as running,most people wouldn't do it (if we were used to being able to do it ofcourse) 😁
You should bring back What is videos
The 'What is' series never left, it's just not called 'What is' anymore. Here's the latest one about Cannibal: th-cam.com/video/QZ4uoGtsNEw/w-d-xo.html
What happened to the Arrow suspended coaster?
In the context of being complex? It's a good point!
@@coasterbot Regarding the evolution of coasters and coasters not being on the track.
Please do like a history of Gold reef city
just this: ❤ 🥰
GALACTICA MENTIONED!!! 💫
Voltron: "most complex huh"
Jinma Rides is joining the flying coaster industry with one being built right now in China. And others copy the Zamperla Volares. So I'm actually fine with not mentioning them at all. 😂
10:12 bro, why you gotta say *THICK* like that 😂😂😂
I also find it hard to believe that these have more complexity than a ride who's seats have controlled rotations over the entire track (talking about the Arrow 4D, ofc :p tho admittedly those didn't really take off [no pun intended ;p] like these did)
Thicc
@@coasterbot Boi SuperVinlin
i’m shocked they didn’t mention X at six flags magic mountain
Tatsu rocks!
B&M was so innovative
* was *
@@First-Drop-Studios yeah was. What’s the latest ride model they’ve made?
@@flyin_with_ryan the family launch coaster, which is new for them. Although it’s not innovative due to manufacturers doing it for 10+ years now. Along with the surf coaster which is literally a stand up with a launch and a more unconventional layout.
What about x2?
Thats no flyer?