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@@WheeledHamster This was made for Japan, where PC gaming is nowhere near as popular with casual players as consoles so a lot of people aren't used to mouse and keyboard for games, this was made especifically for an audience that is mainly used to PlayStation and Nintendo controllers so the trackpad would just be confusing, it's not supposed to be a Steam controller 2, but Valve's attempt to appeal to japanese players, it's why it only released in Japan
it seesm like you had the gyro configured as rightstick instead of mouse. you can easily tell, because when you made fast movements with the controller, the camera responded slower. because the rightstick is acceleration based. meaning the more you tilt the stick the faster the camera moves. the analog stick also has a minimum and maximum turn speed, wich effects the gyro behavior . like i said if you move the controller faster then the maximum turn speed (wicjh is different in all games) then the camera will slow down. if you configure gyro as the mosue you wont have this problem. but most games dont allow for mixed inputs. wich means htat you would need to map the controller inputs to keyboard inputs.
This controller seems to cater to my needs specifically. I pretty much can’t play any game that involves shooting or aiming a camera without gyro and capacitive thumbstick touch is basically the best gyro implementation made so far. It helps with recentering my controller much like you would by picking up your mouse and putting it back to the center of your mousepad. The Dualsense has gyro but there’s no way to map the thumbstick touch to gyro activate. And I don’t feel like I’d really miss vibration. The steamdeck itself technically doesn’t have any rumble motors anyways and just the touchpads produce haptics.
@@Jihottie you have to take your thumb off the stick to enable that at which point you may as well set the toggle to a button (I usually mapped the mute mutton to gyro toggle) and defeats the purpose. Otherwise you’d have to jankily put conductive tape between the touchpad and the stick.
Its a pretty nice controller! Been playing Helldivers 2 with it for a few days now. At first I thought I have to get used to it, because I missed a lot of shots, then I realized that the Gyro is very jittery and does not react very well at all. It must be some kind of bluetooth problem, because after attaching it to the cable it worked like a charm! My favourite PC Controller right now!
@@baldlyrudy Unfortunately yes, this is normally mitigated by a specific dongle for the controller. The old steamcontroller did it perfectly! This one however only comes with a normal bluetooth dongle. I had similar issues with the switch pro controllers on PC. I have been using the NYXI Athena, but I got tired of reconnecting them to bluetooth a million times to get rid of the jitter. However on cable this new one works just fine, and it saves me from wanting to play and having an empty battery too. 😀
I used the included bluetooth dongle for this controller and it's great! However, you have to make sure it's plugged into a USB extender to get away from the PC case because the case can interfere with the signal.
I just got back from Japan and picked up the Hori Steam Controller while I was there. I am an absolute steam deck fan and to finally have a controller that completely mimics the steam deck is awesome. I really love this controller. Thank you for the video. It was great
Oh it was! It was my first time going and finding out about the controller about a week before my trip, I had to hunt it down while I was out there lol the price is still 7980¥. I bought it at sofmap in Shinjuku. I got back 5 days ago and finally had a chance to take the controller for a spin last night. I love it
Hi Rudy! This is my opinion on the controller, I like the weight. I have wrist problems. It does suck to carry something for a prolonged period of time that hurts your wrists. I also do like those inputs that they have for the steam menu that's so awesome!! The rumble and haptic which generally make it heavier, so I'm kind of okay with it not being on this controller. All in all not every controller needs to be the same. I would like to get the purple one for my girlfriend.
It's a shame that there doesn't seem to be a perfect controller out there just yet imo. Right now I prefer the 8bitdo controller the most. The features it has that I like are: Hall effect joysticks that are drift resistant, a good d-pad, analog triggers (in X-input mode), Gyro (in D-input mode), and back buttons. I mostly use it on my PC, but the fact it also works on the switch too also influenced my decision to go for it. Using the toggle on the back I am able to switch between using it on the Switch and my PC without going through any repairing process or button combos. What I feel would make it even better is if it had a way to use the gyro in x-input mode, ideally by giving you the option to have it act as a mouse or joystick (either one), and if it's battery was more easily removable. The old 8bitdo controller I had used a removable battery pack and AA batteries also worked in it. The Gyro thing does sort of exist on the Gulikit controllers, but their D-pad isn't as good from what I have heard. And lastly in an ideal world it would also work with other consoles. I think some of 8bitdo's controllers work on an xbox, but Playstation doesn't really have any options that have hall-effect or TMR sticks as far as I am aware. The Dualsense's use of cheap potentiometer sticks that have been repeatedly shown to develop drift over a short period of time is why I am not a fan of that controller.
I definitely want the gyro. I've burned through three Steam Controllers so far and they are getting expensive and hard to find. I know nearly everyone hates them, but I actually prefer the trackpads on the Steam Controller over thumbsticks. I can deal with thumbsticks as long as it has a gyro.
@@alhypo Dude I love my OG Steam Controller and bought a backup. It's weird to get used to but it's so unique and fun to use. Shame they are becoming increasingly rare.
@greyspot00 Yeah, I actually did not like it at first. But once I figured out how to configure it, I preferred it over all other controllers. I just wish they were a little more durable.
Thanks for the video! I'm quite looking forwards to getting this. A gamechanger the Steam Deck has for me is the way it handles gyro. I usually hate playing fps games with a controller, but Steam Deck actually makes it good. Not as good as mouse and keyboard, but still miles better than trying to aim with just the sticks. On a console controller, I think rumble is a must have especially with the advanced rumble we see on the Switch and PS5. But for PC gaming, I think I could sacrifice rumble. Like I said earlier, I like to play most PC games with a mouse and keyboard and neither of those have rumble. I'm still hoping of a Valve-produced Steam Controller 2 in the future with 1:1 controls and features of the Deck (with the trackpads, etc)
I was planning on getting some of the I bit do pro controllers for a good controller with gyro. How does this compare? It seems a lot of people don't care about analog triggers but I do. That's what's swaying me toward this one right now, but the 8 bit do dock is very handy and nice to look at instead of a loose cord.
Does the Steam Logo button bring up any menus on the Steam Deck? What about the Quick Access Button (3 Dots). Does that bring up the Quick Access Menu on the Steam Deck?
@GAMINGMATRIXXX if I'm being honest, not as good as I would like. It's similar to the D-Pad on a Nintendo Switch Pro Controller, but with less travel distance and pivot. I prefer the D-Pad on the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller or 2C. Even the Anbernic RG P01 has a better D-Pad, IMO.
Hi Bald Rudy, how’s it going? Is the steam deck worth buying? I was debating a PS portal earlier but I’m unsure. I just got the hyrule edition lite which I’m in love with at the moment. I’ve got 2 oled, now 3 lites, PlayStation 5 and old Xbox not in use haha maybe I’ll get the Xbox series X maybe in the future. I’m currently playing Fire Emblem Engage so slowly getting through my backlog. Apologies for the long comment. I also bought the Nintendo flip cover for the lite and watched reviews and looks fabulous I think I’ll prefer this than the regular zip covers.
I think the PS Portal is a great accessory if you only want to play PlayStation games on a handheld. If you want more versatility, and you have a Steam Library of games, then I'd recommend the Steam Deck OLED and install Chiaki4Deck. That way you can play PlayStation games like the Portal would, but also have the flexibility of playing Steam games as well.
@@jackrobins8756 if it sways your decision the steam deck makes a better PlayStation Portal than the PlayStation portal. It doesn't have the haptic triggers but the streaming just works way better
@@jackrobins8756 Are you interested in PC games or emulation? Then get the Steam Deck and download a program to remote play your PS5 and you will only miss the haptic feedback from the controller. If you are not interested at all in tinkering settings and so on, then the PS Portal will work out of the box at a cheaper price. The Steam Deck does almost everything the Portal can but it's more expensive and will require certain knowledge, which in the long run I can see that being super useful.
The Steam Deck is a pretty solid device. I don't own one myself but if you have a lot of games on Steam and or prefer playing games on handheld then it's a pretty good option for making those games accessible anywhere with a device that's fairly straight forward and easy to use. Just know there may be a few games that require some research beforehand to run as unlike the Switch, the steam deck is still at its heart just a computer running games made for different systems. The PlayStation Portal on the otherhand is less a handheld and more so a companion to your existing PS5. With no hard drive or abilitytoplay games on its own it's purely reliant on your internet connection and existing setup. That said in that role it's perfectly built around the PS5 setup and can be a great way to get more out of your console if you'd prefer having the freedom to play games in bed or in any other part of your home, or you happen to be staying somewhere with good internet reception. In short it's the difference of whether you want a dedicated device or an accessory for one. And just to include them and for a few more options there's also Retro devices such as the Retroid Pocket or Ayn Loki. And Windows handhelds such as the Asus ROG Ally or the Lenovo Legion Go. I include these because most retro handhelds run Android meaning you could install the PlayStation streaming app onto them to also be able to stream games from your PS5, while also being able to play mobile games and being pre setup for emulators if that's something your interested in. While Windows handhelds allow you to play just about any PC game with the tradeoff being that they're largely just custom laptops in a gaming shell, meaning you'll have to work around and in Windows whereas the Steam Deck runs Steam OS, a custom version of Linux which can be tailor made to be simple and easy to use in a handheld format. Anyway long post but hope it helps! xD
If you play lots of PC games, then steam deck is worth it. It can also remote play PS5 so its a good alternative to PS portal but the screen isnt as good and controller isnt as comfortable.
As interesting as this is, to me it indicates that Valve is testing the waters when it comes to interest for a product like this. Pretty sure they're working on their own device for the western market and this is just a "soft launch" type of thing.
Yea this controller is not for regular console gamers when it comes the lack of rumble. I think this is controller is PERFECT for PC FPS games especially if you want to play the typical valve FPS like TF2 and Half-Life which do not offer aim assist for controllers in multiplayer so gyro is almost a necessity. Also I noticed A LOT OF tech influencers seem like they can't figure out the Steam Input configurator, use Gyro to Mouse, not joystick lol
I can 100% see that being the case. I don't play many FPS games. I'm more of an RPG guy myself (Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3). Appreciate the tip on the Steam Input Configurator. And for bunching me up with the "tech influencers". I'm just a normal guy. Lol
Yeah its hard to pick this over the 8bitdo Ultimate controller. its so good, cheap and easier to get. Its been my daily driver since getting it. Replacing all my Xbox core controllers.
I mean 8bitdo did an officially licensed steamdeck controller like last year so I think that title isn't entirely accurate. This hori controller is just another licensed steam controller. It's not an inhouse valve made steam controller.
8BitDo did an officially licensed Steam Deck Controller? I wasn't aware of that. I know 8BitDo and Viture had a collaboration that produced a controller that looked like it was meant for the Steam Deck OLED Limited Edition, but that's all I know. Never heard of 8BitDo working with Valve directly for a Steam Deck controller.
@@baldlyrudy That's my bad then. I guess I was misinformed. Every review I had seen for that controller had said it was a steam deck controller. I didn't realize it was a partnered controller that had nothing to do with steam deck beyond being color matched.
@@exturkconner no worries. I'm genuinely curious if 8BitDo did or ever will work directly with Valve on a licensed Steam controller. I personally love my 8BitDo Ultimate Controller, so I'd be excited for that.
@@baldlyrudy I imagine if they had you'd know about it. They have the licensed Wukong controllers up and blaring right now and they've always mentioned the licensing with Xbox and Switch. So if they were licensed by valve it'd be advertised. Like I said just everyone I had seen on that controller was "The Steam Deck controller" but that's not even how it was advertised. It was advertised as a switch controller that also could do steam.
same old xbox format, wierdly jutted out dpad and right stick, face buttons seem too small, rounded and spaced out for me to play fighting games with and i already have a few controllers with gyro and flick stick set up, no thank you, im still gonna buy it for my collection
@@CandarianGaming i figure it does, im just a real weirdo about it, i primarily use nintendo switch pro controller for fighting games for its triggers and massive face buttons though i recently started using the ps4 controller as well because i find the lowered left stick (which is nice and grippy) better for my motion input while i find the higher nintendo switch stick better for charge characters etc. just a lot of weird preference stuff like that.
Personally I'm not even going to consider this controller unless they bring it officially to North America. It does look like an ok controller but the price to import it just isn't worth it.
I have to disagree about the gyro/weight argument that some may put forward. No gyro enthusiast has ever complained about weight fatigue over the past 9 years that I've seen.
What's the difference between the steam controller and this one the other one looks small it's from the steam website which one is better The Valve Steam Controller or the hori steam controller i like hori steam controller better than the ugly Valve Steam Controller from steam
Mainly the input. The Steam Controller from Valve has touchpads instead of analog sticks for directional input. To compensate for that, the Hori one has pretty solid gyro controls when wired.
This would be the perfect controller for me, if only it used AA batteries instead of an integrated one that's not easily replaceable. Still, I'd grab one if they were available in the west!
This controller is so crap. Stupid asymmetric joysticks?? no trackpads??? All steam deck owners want is a steam deck controller without the screen in the middle. A worthy companion for the steam deck this is not
Valve is the only company to make an actual Steam controller, this is just a wireless controller that maybe runing thier hardware/software, but isn't from valve, so its not an official Steam controller. so stop lying.
If you play shooters on Steam yet you'll never use this controller again, and if you usually use mouse and keyboard, why would you ever publish videos of controller reviews? That's a terrible bias.
Why would I recommend a product that I don't see myself using? Why would rather I lie to you and tell you, "Yeah! I'm going to use this controller from now on!"? I use controllers more than any other input because I play more single-player games that aren't shooters. GOW Ragnarok, Dead Cells, Final Fantasy, etc. The time I use M+K is for games like Baldur's Gate 3 or Cyberpunk 2077. I literally said 14:51 that I personally prefer to use my DualSense Edge and 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller. I'm not sure how that's being biased against controllers. I said my personal bias was that I would rather have haptic feedback instead of gyro.
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When the HORI Steam Controller was announced, I was really excited to finally get something that was dedicated to the Steam platform, but more so for the Steam Deck. I saw this as a way to get native input and integration with the Steam Deck while in "docked mode". Although the controller does that well, it still has some drawbacks that are worth mentioning.
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I love how this is a rebranded version of a Switch controller they made. It has oval buttons based steam controller/deck instead of circle ones.
Steam controller, like it or not, the real best thing is Steam Input.
Where's the trackpad? That's not a Steam controller.
Probably when Valve makes their own official Steam Deck controller
@@WheeledHamster ikr, atleast put small rectangular trackpad on top of right stick. Just like on steam deck
@@WheeledHamster This was made for Japan, where PC gaming is nowhere near as popular with casual players as consoles so a lot of people aren't used to mouse and keyboard for games, this was made especifically for an audience that is mainly used to PlayStation and Nintendo controllers so the trackpad would just be confusing, it's not supposed to be a Steam controller 2, but Valve's attempt to appeal to japanese players, it's why it only released in Japan
Trackpad sucks
@@dbsasuke You only say that because you have never used a controller that has them properly.
it seesm like you had the gyro configured as rightstick instead of mouse. you can easily tell, because when you made fast movements with the controller, the camera responded slower. because the rightstick is acceleration based. meaning the more you tilt the stick the faster the camera moves. the analog stick also has a minimum and maximum turn speed, wich effects the gyro behavior . like i said if you move the controller faster then the maximum turn speed (wicjh is different in all games) then the camera will slow down. if you configure gyro as the mosue you wont have this problem. but most games dont allow for mixed inputs. wich means htat you would need to map the controller inputs to keyboard inputs.
This controller seems to cater to my needs specifically.
I pretty much can’t play any game that involves shooting or aiming a camera without gyro and capacitive thumbstick touch is basically the best gyro implementation made so far. It helps with recentering my controller much like you would by picking up your mouse and putting it back to the center of your mousepad.
The Dualsense has gyro but there’s no way to map the thumbstick touch to gyro activate.
And I don’t feel like I’d really miss vibration. The steamdeck itself technically doesn’t have any rumble motors anyways and just the touchpads produce haptics.
Sounds like it's exactly what you're looking for then.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by the capacitive touch and gyro? How does it work and why is it different from regular gyro?
@rahndail3863 you can have the gyro activate solely from touching the thumbsticks
dude the DS4 AND DS5 both have touchpads in the center that can be bound to gyro on/off...
@@Jihottie you have to take your thumb off the stick to enable that at which point you may as well set the toggle to a button (I usually mapped the mute mutton to gyro toggle) and defeats the purpose.
Otherwise you’d have to jankily put conductive tape between the touchpad and the stick.
BTW, the color names are "midnight black", "luminous violet", "shiny white", and "neon yellow".
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Nice! I saw that HORI announced the US release. That's awesome.
Its a pretty nice controller! Been playing Helldivers 2 with it for a few days now. At first I thought I have to get used to it, because I missed a lot of shots, then I realized that the Gyro is very jittery and does not react very well at all. It must be some kind of bluetooth problem, because after attaching it to the cable it worked like a charm! My favourite PC Controller right now!
I didn't notice the jitter with the gyro. Is that something that's normal for gyro on PC? I don't use gyro at all, if I'm honest.
@@baldlyrudy Unfortunately yes, this is normally mitigated by a specific dongle for the controller. The old steamcontroller did it perfectly! This one however only comes with a normal bluetooth dongle. I had similar issues with the switch pro controllers on PC. I have been using the NYXI Athena, but I got tired of reconnecting them to bluetooth a million times to get rid of the jitter. However on cable this new one works just fine, and it saves me from wanting to play and having an empty battery too. 😀
I used the included bluetooth dongle for this controller and it's great! However, you have to make sure it's plugged into a USB extender to get away from the PC case because the case can interfere with the signal.
I just got back from Japan and picked up the Hori Steam Controller while I was there. I am an absolute steam deck fan and to finally have a controller that completely mimics the steam deck is awesome. I really love this controller. Thank you for the video. It was great
You're welcome! Sounds like good times. I've always wanted to go to Japan.
Oh it was! It was my first time going and finding out about the controller about a week before my trip, I had to hunt it down while I was out there lol the price is still 7980¥. I bought it at sofmap in Shinjuku. I got back 5 days ago and finally had a chance to take the controller for a spin last night. I love it
@cardinaletti that's awesome man! Glad you had a great time.
7:28 I'd even rather have the right analog stick removed than remove the gyro feature. Gyro is much more important than vibration.
Hi Rudy! This is my opinion on the controller, I like the weight. I have wrist problems. It does suck to carry something for a prolonged period of time that hurts your wrists. I also do like those inputs that they have for the steam menu that's so awesome!! The rumble and haptic which generally make it heavier, so I'm kind of okay with it not being on this controller. All in all not every controller needs to be the same. I would like to get the purple one for my girlfriend.
Vibrator tends to eat a lot of battery, I turn it off or keep it at very low level
It's a shame that there doesn't seem to be a perfect controller out there just yet imo.
Right now I prefer the 8bitdo controller the most. The features it has that I like are: Hall effect joysticks that are drift resistant, a good d-pad, analog triggers (in X-input mode), Gyro (in D-input mode), and back buttons. I mostly use it on my PC, but the fact it also works on the switch too also influenced my decision to go for it. Using the toggle on the back I am able to switch between using it on the Switch and my PC without going through any repairing process or button combos.
What I feel would make it even better is if it had a way to use the gyro in x-input mode, ideally by giving you the option to have it act as a mouse or joystick (either one), and if it's battery was more easily removable. The old 8bitdo controller I had used a removable battery pack and AA batteries also worked in it. The Gyro thing does sort of exist on the Gulikit controllers, but their D-pad isn't as good from what I have heard. And lastly in an ideal world it would also work with other consoles. I think some of 8bitdo's controllers work on an xbox, but Playstation doesn't really have any options that have hall-effect or TMR sticks as far as I am aware. The Dualsense's use of cheap potentiometer sticks that have been repeatedly shown to develop drift over a short period of time is why I am not a fan of that controller.
I definitely want the gyro. I've burned through three Steam Controllers so far and they are getting expensive and hard to find.
I know nearly everyone hates them, but I actually prefer the trackpads on the Steam Controller over thumbsticks. I can deal with thumbsticks as long as it has a gyro.
@@alhypo Dude I love my OG Steam Controller and bought a backup. It's weird to get used to but it's so unique and fun to use. Shame they are becoming increasingly rare.
@greyspot00 Yeah, I actually did not like it at first. But once I figured out how to configure it, I preferred it over all other controllers. I just wish they were a little more durable.
8bitdo imo is the best 3rd party controller, it's simple, feels great and have a good price.
Thanks for the video!
I'm quite looking forwards to getting this. A gamechanger the Steam Deck has for me is the way it handles gyro. I usually hate playing fps games with a controller, but Steam Deck actually makes it good. Not as good as mouse and keyboard, but still miles better than trying to aim with just the sticks.
On a console controller, I think rumble is a must have especially with the advanced rumble we see on the Switch and PS5. But for PC gaming, I think I could sacrifice rumble. Like I said earlier, I like to play most PC games with a mouse and keyboard and neither of those have rumble. I'm still hoping of a Valve-produced Steam Controller 2 in the future with 1:1 controls and features of the Deck (with the trackpads, etc)
Ooooh a sneaky Steam Deck controller video! Nice.
Oh yeah! Had to talk about this one.
It seemed all interesting, up until the shallow triggers. Had it used similar triggers to the one on the steam deck, it would have been perfect
And It's not Hall Effect?
I was planning on getting some of the I bit do pro controllers for a good controller with gyro. How does this compare? It seems a lot of people don't care about analog triggers but I do. That's what's swaying me toward this one right now, but the 8 bit do dock is very handy and nice to look at instead of a loose cord.
I love the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller. To this day, it's still one of my go to controllers.
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Yup. Got announced after this video went live.
Does the Steam Logo button bring up any menus on the Steam Deck? What about the Quick Access Button (3 Dots). Does that bring up the Quick Access Menu on the Steam Deck?
Yup. That they do.
Thank you for confirming that. How is the D-Pad on it for Fighting Games? That’s what I will primarily be using it for on my Steam Deck.
@GAMINGMATRIXXX if I'm being honest, not as good as I would like. It's similar to the D-Pad on a Nintendo Switch Pro Controller, but with less travel distance and pivot. I prefer the D-Pad on the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller or 2C. Even the Anbernic RG P01 has a better D-Pad, IMO.
I care for gyro more than rumble so it's an easy decision for me.
Will it work with any other Linux distribution?
Yup
Hi Bald Rudy, how’s it going? Is the steam deck worth buying? I was debating a PS portal earlier but I’m unsure. I just got the hyrule edition lite which I’m in love with at the moment. I’ve got 2 oled, now 3 lites, PlayStation 5 and old Xbox not in use haha maybe I’ll get the Xbox series X maybe in the future. I’m currently playing Fire Emblem Engage so slowly getting through my backlog. Apologies for the long comment. I also bought the Nintendo flip cover for the lite and watched reviews and looks fabulous I think I’ll prefer this than the regular zip covers.
I think the PS Portal is a great accessory if you only want to play PlayStation games on a handheld. If you want more versatility, and you have a Steam Library of games, then I'd recommend the Steam Deck OLED and install Chiaki4Deck. That way you can play PlayStation games like the Portal would, but also have the flexibility of playing Steam games as well.
@@jackrobins8756 if it sways your decision the steam deck makes a better PlayStation Portal than the PlayStation portal. It doesn't have the haptic triggers but the streaming just works way better
@@jackrobins8756 Are you interested in PC games or emulation? Then get the Steam Deck and download a program to remote play your PS5 and you will only miss the haptic feedback from the controller. If you are not interested at all in tinkering settings and so on, then the PS Portal will work out of the box at a cheaper price. The Steam Deck does almost everything the Portal can but it's more expensive and will require certain knowledge, which in the long run I can see that being super useful.
The Steam Deck is a pretty solid device. I don't own one myself but if you have a lot of games on Steam and or prefer playing games on handheld then it's a pretty good option for making those games accessible anywhere with a device that's fairly straight forward and easy to use. Just know there may be a few games that require some research beforehand to run as unlike the Switch, the steam deck is still at its heart just a computer running games made for different systems. The PlayStation Portal on the otherhand is less a handheld and more so a companion to your existing PS5. With no hard drive or abilitytoplay games on its own it's purely reliant on your internet connection and existing setup. That said in that role it's perfectly built around the PS5 setup and can be a great way to get more out of your console if you'd prefer having the freedom to play games in bed or in any other part of your home, or you happen to be staying somewhere with good internet reception. In short it's the difference of whether you want a dedicated device or an accessory for one. And just to include them and for a few more options there's also Retro devices such as the Retroid Pocket or Ayn Loki. And Windows handhelds such as the Asus ROG Ally or the Lenovo Legion Go. I include these because most retro handhelds run Android meaning you could install the PlayStation streaming app onto them to also be able to stream games from your PS5, while also being able to play mobile games and being pre setup for emulators if that's something your interested in. While Windows handhelds allow you to play just about any PC game with the tradeoff being that they're largely just custom laptops in a gaming shell, meaning you'll have to work around and in Windows whereas the Steam Deck runs Steam OS, a custom version of Linux which can be tailor made to be simple and easy to use in a handheld format. Anyway long post but hope it helps! xD
If you play lots of PC games, then steam deck is worth it. It can also remote play PS5 so its a good alternative to PS portal but the screen isnt as good and controller isnt as comfortable.
As interesting as this is, to me it indicates that Valve is testing the waters when it comes to interest for a product like this. Pretty sure they're working on their own device for the western market and this is just a "soft launch" type of thing.
Ooooh. That's definitely a possibility.
To be honest, I'd gladly welcome a controller straight from Valve.
Yea this controller is not for regular console gamers when it comes the lack of rumble. I think this is controller is PERFECT for PC FPS games especially if you want to play the typical valve FPS like TF2 and Half-Life which do not offer aim assist for controllers in multiplayer so gyro is almost a necessity. Also I noticed A LOT OF tech influencers seem like they can't figure out the Steam Input configurator, use Gyro to Mouse, not joystick lol
I can 100% see that being the case. I don't play many FPS games. I'm more of an RPG guy myself (Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur's Gate 3). Appreciate the tip on the Steam Input Configurator. And for bunching me up with the "tech influencers". I'm just a normal guy. Lol
Are those rings around the thumbsticks replaceable like in the Xbox Elite controllers?
Nope. The only way to swap them is by taking the entire controller apart.
Yeah its hard to pick this over the 8bitdo Ultimate controller. its so good, cheap and easier to get. Its been my daily driver since getting it. Replacing all my Xbox core controllers.
Thank you! I'm of the same mindset. The 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller is just so dang good.
what type of analog stick does it have tho, hall effect?
Potentiometer.
@@baldlyrudy sigh so we should expect a stick drift in few months would be my guess sigh 😔
@@elmoudir1189 preeeetty much.
@@baldlyrudy maaan i hope i don't die before they fix that issue
No trackpads-- no purchase.
I never use it on my ps4 controller.
Does it wake up the steam deck?
Yes! Sorry I didn't put that in the video.
No problem. thanks for the review. been eyeing this for a min!
@@Anoctopusinlove it's not bad at all! I just never use gyro, so I'd rather have haptic feedback/vibration motors over gyro.
I mean 8bitdo did an officially licensed steamdeck controller like last year so I think that title isn't entirely accurate. This hori controller is just another licensed steam controller. It's not an inhouse valve made steam controller.
8BitDo did an officially licensed Steam Deck Controller? I wasn't aware of that.
I know 8BitDo and Viture had a collaboration that produced a controller that looked like it was meant for the Steam Deck OLED Limited Edition, but that's all I know.
Never heard of 8BitDo working with Valve directly for a Steam Deck controller.
@@baldlyrudy That's my bad then. I guess I was misinformed. Every review I had seen for that controller had said it was a steam deck controller. I didn't realize it was a partnered controller that had nothing to do with steam deck beyond being color matched.
@@exturkconner no worries. I'm genuinely curious if 8BitDo did or ever will work directly with Valve on a licensed Steam controller. I personally love my 8BitDo Ultimate Controller, so I'd be excited for that.
@@baldlyrudy I imagine if they had you'd know about it. They have the licensed Wukong controllers up and blaring right now and they've always mentioned the licensing with Xbox and Switch. So if they were licensed by valve it'd be advertised. Like I said just everyone I had seen on that controller was "The Steam Deck controller" but that's not even how it was advertised. It was advertised as a switch controller that also could do steam.
@exturkconner that's true. One can hope for something official in the future.
Corey is just known for never having rumble..
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same old xbox format, wierdly jutted out dpad and right stick, face buttons seem too small, rounded and spaced out for me to play fighting games with and i already have a few controllers with gyro and flick stick set up, no thank you, im still gonna buy it for my collection
Spoken like a fellow gamer.
@donaldcheezits438 it performs perfectly fine for fighting games man
@@CandarianGaming i figure it does, im just a real weirdo about it, i primarily use nintendo switch pro controller for fighting games for its triggers and massive face buttons though i recently started using the ps4 controller as well because i find the lowered left stick (which is nice and grippy) better for my motion input while i find the higher nintendo switch stick better for charge characters etc. just a lot of weird preference stuff like that.
@@baldlyrudy wooo youtuber reply! thank you! i did very much like the video though, tight pacing, very informative, very enjoyable :)
@@donaldcheezits438 haha! Thanks. 🍻
I use ps4 DualShock and stadia controller and I’m missing nothing!
Personally I'm not even going to consider this controller unless they bring it officially to North America. It does look like an ok controller but the price to import it just isn't worth it.
I definitely agree with you.
Doesnt sound like an upgrade. Pretty Meh honestly. What a shame. Id love them to include a track ball.
I have to disagree about the gyro/weight argument that some may put forward. No gyro enthusiast has ever complained about weight fatigue over the past 9 years that I've seen.
That's fair. I'm personally not huge into gyro. I was just trying to think up counter arguments.
What's the difference between the steam controller and this one the other one looks small it's from the steam website which one is better The Valve Steam Controller or the hori steam controller i like hori steam controller better than the ugly Valve Steam Controller from steam
Mainly the input. The Steam Controller from Valve has touchpads instead of analog sticks for directional input. To compensate for that, the Hori one has pretty solid gyro controls when wired.
@@baldlyrudy ok
This would be the perfect controller for me, if only it used AA batteries instead of an integrated one that's not easily replaceable. Still, I'd grab one if they were available in the west!
I'd rather just play on the steam deck rather than that asymmetrical monstrosity
I despise any controller that has the main stems offset like this one and Xbox, its so wrong I can never get used to it.
bruh this is controller is worse than an 8 bit do controller
*bruh, this controller seems worse than the 8bitdo
It's way better than the 8 bit do controller
This controller is so crap. Stupid asymmetric joysticks?? no trackpads??? All steam deck owners want is a steam deck controller without the screen in the middle. A worthy companion for the steam deck this is not
That would be awesome!
Valve is the only company to make an actual Steam controller, this is just a wireless controller that maybe runing thier hardware/software, but isn't from valve, so its not an official Steam controller. so stop lying.
Stop lying? I'm not going to explain how licensing works. Do yourself a favor and Google it.
If you play shooters on Steam yet you'll never use this controller again, and if you usually use mouse and keyboard, why would you ever publish videos of controller reviews? That's a terrible bias.
Why would I recommend a product that I don't see myself using? Why would rather I lie to you and tell you, "Yeah! I'm going to use this controller from now on!"?
I use controllers more than any other input because I play more single-player games that aren't shooters. GOW Ragnarok, Dead Cells, Final Fantasy, etc. The time I use M+K is for games like Baldur's Gate 3 or Cyberpunk 2077.
I literally said 14:51 that I personally prefer to use my DualSense Edge and 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth Controller. I'm not sure how that's being biased against controllers. I said my personal bias was that I would rather have haptic feedback instead of gyro.
And it sucks