Man, where to begin? 😂 Georgia struggling for 3 quarters against UMass is my honorable mention. HoweverI gotta go with Oklahoma completely shutting down Bama. I mean Jalen Milroe might have played his way out of being drafted early in the 1st round with that performance. But honestly, the most shocking thing, was that we got all of these upsets in one week! Anybody else getting flashbacks to "The Year of Upsets," 2007? 12-2 LSU beating 11-2 Ohio State in the BCS championship game, because of all the top 2 teams losing in front of them week after week? No? Just me?
The SEC is so good this year by a wide margin. Ohio State gave Indiana no room to breathe. Ole Miss loss to Florida was crazy to watch but a good game. Penn state survived but also a good game to watch
The 300-odd yards of total offense is misleading. Ohio State had a short field for a lot of the game. They only punted twice the entire game, a 3-and-out on the first drive and another at the end of the third quarter. They drove 75 yds for a TD and 83 yds to the 1 yard line before they were stopped. Their other long-field possession they had back to back penalties and kicked a field goal. Indiana made them work for it but they weren't really stopping them.
@andrewgiegerich8211 obviously Ohio State did not score on every single drive. I'm talking about the 300 yards of offense was not because Indiana was dominating on the line, or smothering the receivers, or anything like that. Ohio State only had 56 recorded plays. That's over 5-1/2 yards per play. Indiana had roughly the same number of plays, same time of possession, half the yards and six punts (including the muffed one). THAT is stopping an offense.
3 losses can't get in I agree, but Bama, Ole Miss, and half the SEC would mop Indiana. They've played no one, the SEC slaughters itself but they are clearly the best I don't think anyone denies that.
22:00 another common claim among SEC fans is that the best team in Conference X would be like the seventh best team in the SEC. Well, teams from other conferences joined the SEC, and now, Texas is alone at the top, A&M is right there alongside Georgia and Tennessee, and Alabama got cooked by Oklahoma on Saturday. So there you go.
A and m has been in the sec for over 10 years now Oklahoma is a bad example they have like 5 sec losses And Texas hasn't played a top 10 sec team yet Other than getting embarrassed by Georgia
@andrewgiegerich8211 your bad example just trucked Alabama. The SEC fans did not wait until A&M joined the conference, and only then, *fiiiinally* said, okay, NOW every team outside the SEC is garbage, we weren't sure before, but at long last we can make this boast, and we'll be talking every year about how dominant and amazing the Aggies are.
@@andrewgiegerich8211The same Georgia team that almost lost to Kentucky, who Texas just throttled playing with a injured QB the 2nd half, same Georgia team that got worked by Ole Miss, who Florida just worked over, Texas demolished Florida too and scored 49 points on Fla. Every team has a bad night, ours just happened to be against a Ga team that has won 2 NCs recently. Hate Texas all you want, but they deserve their #3 ranking, and the committee agrees. Texas is more than SEC ready, which was such BS to hear that nonsense. We won't win the SEC title, and I'm cool with that, it's our first year, we are already dominating the aggies again in our first year in the SEC 😂
I don't understand how even Joel Klatt isn't realizing this. They had 79 yards on a punt return - that's one offensive drive. Then there were short fields on a fumble and the botched punt. It's not like Indiana held them. They converted that 3rd and 35 in two plays without breaking a sweat. Ohio State averaged nearly 6 ypp (5.64).
It’s still impressive for Vandy but maybe not in overall context. Vandy had not beat them in 40 years. It also speaks more to Alabamas fall from grace.
Between their first score with 7:00 to go in the first quarter, and the start of the garbage-time TD drive with 9:00 to go in the fourth quarter, that's 43 minutes, Indiana had 3 yards of offense. Three yards in essentially three quarters.
Joel, as a Bama fan, you’re so right about them. Got caught looking at the goal rather than the destination. Hope things change next year. God bless you!
C'mon, man, You gotta have a better take than that. Why did South Carolina women win the national title last year? Better players and...better coaching? Duke men's basketball. Didn't they have better players under coach K than most teams? It is what it is. 30 straight over Indiana, Hoosier fan. ... maybe next year.
@@andysmith9243 you guys really show your extreme lack of knowledge and understanding of the game when you make comments like this it doesn’t matter they have one of the best records in the country simple as that. Their only loss comes to the number two team in the country they’re in. The breakdown made complete sense you not understanding it just shows your lack of knowledge.
Tell that to the clowns who think Penn State winning by 1 against a top 15 defense is somehow a reflection on Penn State. How many teams in the top 25 wish they had just one more win by 1 point to get into the playoffs?
That was a great quote right lol because it’s the truth. This isn’t 2008 the SEC isn’t the biggest and baddest. They are top heavy with even their top teams taking Ls. What’s fascinating is it seems like since the 12 team was announced teams have lost focus. Almost like it’s ok if we lost here and here now. Idk just an opinion
You would think so, wait though for some mental gymnastics to justify keeping them in. As a new fan of the SEC, I am starting to see why fans say there is a Bama bias in the SEC.
Joel, your take on Shedeur pushing the ref as “bullcrap” smells of some homerism. You can still love the guy and be a fan of his AND call him out for that behavior.
You guys be realistic he didn’t “push” the ref with malice. He extended his arm as the ref was backing up on him. You’re blowing it out of proportion. Don’t you think if the ref feels he was pushed he would have called it. Or the other ref standing right to his right? Come on
@@whydidiwastemytimeonthis4581 it was a cheap shot and shouldn’t of happened. But, Shedeur shouldn’t also have let his ego take over and push a ref because he thinks he’s better than him. 🤷🏻♂️
He shoved the official because Kansas players are shoving his head in the ground when the plays already done. What Shedeur did isn’t right but no one has the same energy for the dirty hit on Shedeur that could’ve ended his career.
Let me help. IU intentionally scheduled ZEROs for non-conference games. Their weak schedule actually IS partially their own responsibility. Power rankings reflect their weakness. ESPN has them at 11. Sagarin at 14. You can't expect the committee to just let them in. P.S. They play a pathetic Purdue team this week. The IU strength of schedule will dip... likely below top 40 again.
@JakeM25 They likely are... but I CAN SEE why they might not be. Love Pratt's work, but his blind spot for (or intentionally ommission of) the glaring negatives working against IU is disturbing.
And that hit wasn't dirty, there is like a 3 square inch area where players are allowed to hit a qb without getting called dirty anymore. He wanted to take down and can't hit high or get a targeting call, can't land on him or get a roughing the passer call. The only place they can go anymore is low and half the time the qb will just jump over when you don't wrap up. Was it bad form, sure, was it dirty, I don't think so. But I'm just a TH-cam idiot what do I know. I turned the vid off when he said that hit was solely to hurt backup aflac spokesmans kid.
@mattschwartz7583 I agree with you, there were dirty plays and cheap shots by KU and they should have been called and maybe had players ejected for them, but Joel always preaches Personal Responsibility and you cannot let a player shove a ref, point, blank, period 🤷🏽♂️
ELIJAH ARROYO is one of the best TEs in the country, Miami doesn’t get him the ball enough he’s an athletic freak, idk if y’all watch much of the canes but he jumps of your screen,
I'll have to watch the rest of Miami's season, because I'm a huge fan of David Njoku and it sounds like Miami might be a breeding ground for Uber athletic TEs.
Definitely signs that effort is being made . Has to improve . Better tackling & swarming to stop returns . Better blocking on returns and the punter should have an objective as to where he's trying to place the ball . I mean basics , deep , away from someone or inside the 10 (we've had punters in recent history who aimed for inside the 5 and guys out running the kick waiting to down it) .
I’m a Ducks fan but I’ll admit the Buckeyes looked good this past weekend. Oregon should be healthy again for the conference championship game. It should be really good! Both are in the playoff, regardless of the outcome!
@elijahmcelroy2577 no doubt. I'd love for buckeyes to roll ttun and then beat Oregon, but it is nice knowing that the playoff now allows for a loss or two lol
Oklahoma didn’t just beat Alambama. They dominated Bama without half their Oline room (which aren’t that talented anyway) and their top 6 WRs. Good luck to the SEC if OU gets a couple top recruiting classes, a better OC, and can stay healthy.
OU doesn’t have the coach to get them there. Jackson Arnold is not a college QB that can get you there. OU offense was inept when everyone was healthy.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then. One game doesn't change your narrative, OU is a terrible team still with a DC posing as a head coach. BV is in over his head. This win was more a indictment on Bama and the dropoff from Saban, than a positive about OU. OU scraped by a bad Auburn team, and needed some hail Mary type plays to get by......Houston. Houston, really? That being said, LSU is terrible, I give Zero U a good chance of winning that game too. OU needs a rebuild and change in culture, and better players to be good year in and year out. With so many programs recruiting Tx now, OU will not be getting the caliber of players they used to every year, recruiting will be more crucial to win in the SEC.
CU was making contact at or behind the line of scrimmage on80% of the runs. CU was missing tackles or RB/QB was breaking tackles the offensive line wasn't playing that great.
Couldn't happen to a better team, Alabama fans are finally accepting that they're not "THE team" anymore despite their preseason chest-puffing about having a perfect program. Love to see them fail miserably like this.
Daboer could still easily make a dynasty again. 3 losses going through the gauntlet in his first year is not the worst he could’ve done. What really sucks is who they lost to
I totally agree with the top 5 atmosphere analysis. I don't think Indiana was going to win that game but I do think they are a better team than what they showed v OSU. They were on the road against a top 5 team in a tough atmosphere. In future they'll handle it better and make fewer mistakes.
I find it odd that he ignores the obvious classless behavior of the Sanders group. I know he is a CU alumni, but still as a analyst you need to be able to put aside your loyalty in the interest of having professional integrity and being neutral. I look forward to the day the sanders boys fail, and loudmouth deeyawn goes back into the shadows so we don't have to hear his constant narcissistic yapping all the time. Didn't like him as a player, don't like him as a coach. His fake personality is easy to see through, I'm amazed at how easily some fans are fooled by his lies and fake persona.
Joel saying that Indiana has been far more dominant in their wins than Notre dame when ND leads the country in point differential is wild. Not to mention they’ve beaten much better teams than them
Only reason they have that differential is because OSU beat em this week. IU had that before this week if im not mistaken. If ND is mad about anything, be mad they made the chances lower by losing to a MAC school.
To me, Penn State is the most confusing team in the Big Ten. 1 score wins vs Bowling Green, USC, and Minnesota the other day. They look really good at times and then you look up and they're in a fight at the end of the game vs a bad team. I know they're gonna make the playoff, I'm just saying they are the most confusing team for my brain!
Idk what they were doing vs Bowling Green, but USC and Minnesota are better than their records indicate and both were on the road. Both teams have lost a few close games this year. In a world of increasing college football parity, a few plays here and there is the only difference between 8-2 or 9-1 and 6-4 or 5-5. For example, the week before Penn St played USC, USC was ranked about #12. They lose a one score game on the road vs Minnesota and the AP poll dropped them over 13 spots and out of the top-25. If they had played one week earlier, Penn St would have another ranked win. I aslo wouldn't be surprised if USC goes out and beats ND this week.
@@kevinbeck7007 Talent wise USC definitely can beat ND...I just know these days some guys don't feel like there's anything to play for at the end of the year and even if it's just a few guys, that can make the difference. I guess my point about PSU was that I think they could beat anyone in the country on a neutral field, but could also probably lose to the other 11 teams just as easily. Either way, my team aint sniffing the playoff so I'm just enjoying the chaos and hoping for good games.
To be fair michigan and Washington lost their coaches and alot of players. They aren't really that bad, I think either team could give colorado a good game.
Usually a big fan of Joel's takes on the sport, but saying Shedeur didn't shove the official is bullcrap. Joel, if you can pull the footage from the hit on Shedeur, then you're plenty capable of pulling the footage on the shoving match. C'mon man.
Not a cheap shot on Saunders If that’s a cheap shot RBs and WRs get that multiple times during a game. You can tackle as a defender anymore. You hit the high it’s a problem you hit them low it’s a problem. It’s football and meant to be violent. If the hit was super late I’d agree but it wasn’t
QBs get special treatment. Thats the modern game. Both CFB and the NFL are not hiding that fact. It is by the rule a penalty that should be called. Not saying I agree with the rule, it is what it is.
@@daryinmedley8292 and shedeur was outside the pocket running towards the LOS when the defender started his lunge. If he didn't pull up to throw and carried on like a regular ballcarrier the hit would've looked totally normal. It was unfortunate but incidental and we're all glad he's okay.
What SOS ranking are you looking at? I’ve checked 5 of them and they all show ND’s as tougher than Indiana’s. And ND’s resume outside their losses is now stronger than IU’s as well - Indiana USED TO lead the country in point differential, but no longer. You guessed it: ND now leads at +301. So that invalidates all of the ND slander you saw fit to cram into a 10 minute IU segment.
Paul Finebaum is to the SEC what Joel Klatt is to the Big 10. Joel Klatt is just a more composed analyst so people take him more seriously. He's going to cherry pick stats/models that support the most Big 10 teams getting into the playoffs.
Joel, the hit on Sanders low to me looked more like an adjustment to the rules than cheap. Look at the flags for hitting qb's anywhere near the line above their belly button. Maybe it was a cheap shot, but it could easily be a smart adjustment to the nonsense protection they put on qb's that has made them almost untouchable when at full speed.
So, are you against monopolies? Because it would be great if Americans ACTUALLY cared about that kind of stuff. real life vs games. What a concept? Thinking about how corporate monopolies manipulate our lives, sports, economies, etc...
The AP putting alabama at 13th with three losses and two against unranked teams is criminal. Someone needs to follow that money trail. The loss to Vandy alone should get you kicked from playoff consideration.
I’m not about to say that OU hasn’t been awful this year with all of the injuries and offensive complications. The difference in this game is that they finally committed to the qb run and was able to generate some decent offense, enough to control the clock and field position. The offensive line finally had some continuity and knew what they were doing. That defensive performance though was not a fluke. That’s what BV has been building and they put together a full game. Not claiming any national championships by any means - but them OU boys are coming.
How good of a metric is SOS anyway? Indiana basically jumps up 50 spots for getting their doors blown off by Ohio State, but they only have 3 wins over teams above .500 (all 6-5). Meanwhile, Notre Dame’s SOS is substantially below them, but they have 6 wins (twice as many!) over teams with at least 7 wins. Yes, ND’s SOS is really suffering from how down FSU and USC are. I just find it curious that IU gets a huge SOS bump for a stinker at OSU when ND’s schedule has consistently been stronger than IU’s.
You're thinking of SOR vs SOS. SOS goes up or down weather you win or lose. It's about who you've played not how you performed. Now their SOR probably took a nice hit after that game.
Lol...if your point is ND looks better to the eyes and are probably more talented than IU, you'll get few arguments. But, if you're stating that the ND schedule is tough... you're lying to yourself.
@@Al-Rudigorthat statement makes no sense considering strength of record is based on how you performed against your schedule(you know your strength of schedule).
WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT NOTRE DAME? YOU WERE SO HIGH ON THEM AND THEN RILEY GETS HURT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NIU GAME WE GO AWAY FROM RILEY RUNNING (THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER) AND TRY TO SQUEAK AWAY AND THEN THEY DOMINATE AND NOW YOU THINK SO POORLY OF THEM. I don’t understand. Watch out for them!
I understand trying to be sympathetic to Indiana but saying that the game vs Oregon was too big for OSU is insane. Its a 1 point loss on the road across multiple time zones in what was a really competitive team (#1 vs #2). are we just to say that ALL games where you lose you lost because it was 'too big'? And not just you were about as evenly matched as could be vs a respectable team? Indiana was not prepared. Georgia absolutely was not prepared in the first half and ended up losing to a bad team. But there's got to be a winner and loser in top 5 matchups and sometimes it is not down to preparation, merely the fact that the game desires a winner.
Since the NIU loss notre dame has been blowing theyre opponent's out. Miami has ben in nail bitters almost every week. And don't forget maiami was scheduled to play ND this year. But miami backed out at the last minute.
ND has a very weak schedule this year. The loss to NIU should penalize the Irish. If ND wants to remain independent that is fine but it should be penalized more severely because it won’t join a conference. Beating bottom feeder teams like Indiana has this year, should be considered when looking at ND.
The more I think about it the more I believe some players at Alabama threw that game. It’s a speculative world. Just can’t make any sense of that performance. Looked like Milroe layed down more than a few times. Then the half hearted slide to impede the pick six. I don’t think those players want the coach they currently have. It just doesn’t add up.
13:08 316 total yards yeah when their average starting position is the IU 43 yard line don’t really need to go that far and the special teams if we play that game then Ohio state should have had an additional 14 points on the red zone stop and the interception on the 10 yard line because the ball was wet and slipped which is the same narrative you used for IU’s punter see it goes both ways you can’t say “well if this” cause you can do it for Ohio State too, I also don’t know why you view IU’s last touchdown as just a grab to make the game look closer when Ohio state had some 2nd teamers in and playing prevent, 4 minute defense to chew up clock if they didn’t do that IU probably doesn’t score, the final score was 31-7 before the garbage time scoring happened
But he's still a big ten shill. That's who writes his checks and he's taking a big one to the bank tomorrow signed by the Indiana Hoosiers. What a load!
The 12 team playoff saved college football and that’s without any exaggeration, more teams are motivated to pull of an upset even if a team has already lost a couple games because there’s still a chance for some teams to make it even with a couple losses. The intensity is unmatched this season and I’m here for it
Ohio State, Penn State, IU, and Oregon will get exposed in the playoffs. The Big 10 is weak, overrated, and soft. Ohio State plays only one competitive game each year. By the way ; Ohio State is 0-9 in bowl games versus SEC opponents.
Joel, why do you hate Notre Dame this year!? 1. They are scoring 39 points per game (5th in the nation) 2. They are allowing 11.6 points per game (2nd in the nation) 3. They beat 4 ranked teams this year, including a double digit win over Texas A&M at Kyle field We count on you for rational, unbiased analysis, so what gives?
Not for nothing, but OSU/IU was played on a very fast clock. Just a few incompletions from Howard and IU only threw it a handful of times. A lot of running. OSU played on a short field all day, in fact, I think every single play from both teams in the 2nd quarter was played on IU's side of the 50. Felt like an old-school AFC North game at times. Great game either way - gray, drizzle, cold, wet. Football weather!
Saying their schedule is harder than smh and Miami because of 1 game is hilarious. It’s tougher to play 10 teams with a pulse than 1 tough team and 9 bums
@@adamrm231342You're just trying to support your narrative. You think SMU and Miami beat all those teams by 30+? Miami has struggled against most of the teams they've played
Loved your take on the Hoosiers. Got punch in the mouth at the Horseshoe, 99% of other teams would’ve been in a similar boat. Glad the SEC collapsed that helps a ton 🙏🏼
Joel not even giving OU a little credit for dominating Bama B.T.A. style just shows where the Sooners stand in terms of respect and credibility. OU has the most absurd injury list out of any team and roster, and they beat Bama 24-3. I get it, we’re 6-5, but come on Joel💀
OU got worked by the good teams they faced. They struggled mightily to beat....Houston and Auburn, and choked the game away at Missouri. That is easily 2 more losses you should have, OU is worse than their record. Stop using the injury excuse, it's called having depth at the skill positions, every team has to deal with multiple injuries every year, they don't beat that same drum like Zero U does. If anything, that is a huge red flag and failure on your S&C program that your players keep getting hurt. You don't have SEC type players, is one reason, and your S&C program is apparently failing also. Development, its necessary to have at this level at all positions, OU doesn't have it. This isn't the B12, OU needs a reset and culture change.
CU has lost to a 6 loss team, a 5 loss team and a 3 loss team. I don't see a quality win on their schedule. Let's hope they don't somehow back into the playoffs.
Huh? He picked navy outright over ND and now he says Indiana strength of schedule is better than Miami and ND lmao... Indiana hasn't beaten a team with less than 5 losses 😂...his credibility is questionable at best
Yeah unfortunately the network he works for is a joke and he’s the color commentator on the dumbest broadcast in college football. “Big Noon Saturday” lol
OSU offense reminding me a good bit of those 2021-2022 Monken offenses at UGA where they didn't just have a reliance on big star players but several players that they could just turn to given match ups and situations. also, IU - gained 70 yards on their scripted opening series - they gained -3 yards the rest of the game until it was 31-7. They were never going to win that game, and they probably wouldn't have crossed the 50 if OSU had kept the starting defense out there.
Alabama lost because Oklahoma outplayed them. Give credit to the Sooners for not giving up and for developing their players throughout the season. They played with heart and it showed.
Great commentary as always. This is the kind of thought process we need in the committee in deciding the top 12. I would add that given WHO Georgia lost too and who they beat, a 3 loss Georgia team should still make the playoffs.
Indiana should be in. They had 1 bad half all year. 2 special teams miscues and a late OSU TD. Otherwise this could have been a 1 score game. Plus I bet 10 bucks for them to make the playoff 2 months ago. That’s really the reason they should be in.
All I can tell you is if an SEC team traveled to the Horseshoe last Saturday instead of Indiana the result would have been exactly the same. To the SEC teams coming to Columbus - "You walk over but you're limping back."
ohio state looks good. as a texas fan, i know we gotta play better but sec is also super overrated. we should've blown away arkansas the way we were playing, and i get the comments it's tough sec. they lost to the last place big 12 team.
It is tough to win on the road in general. But its harder to win on the road in the SEC because even teams with worse records have a higher caliber of player (evidenced by number of player drafted) and these players are capable of playing at a high level on any given Saturday. Its tough to win anywhere but its toughest to win on the road against better players.
I think peoples hesitation with Indiana, Is that since they don't live at the top like osu, Georgia, etc. People want to see a quality win before they buy in. Indiana doesn't have a great win this year.
Peoples hesitations with Indiana is the logo on their jerseys. If they had OSU jerseys with that same resume exactly they would be a top 5 team no doubt.
@@charliegriffey7773are the jerseys the reason they had a total of only 151yds as a top 5 ranked team? i mean rourke passed for 68😂 they simply ain’t good enough. Zero quality wins. Holding Penn state to no offensive touchdowns is a quality win
Klatt the resume debate wasn’t between Indiana and smu or Miami. It was between Indiana and 2 loss bama, 2 loss Tennessee. It doesn’t matter anymore because of the 3rd loss.
@@leemarie7724there’s 3 other teams that spent more and didn’t win it either, go do your research. Oregon and Texas both spent more I’m not sure why people only talk about Ohio State
@@calebleeson5662 oops sorry didn't know you were an expert on Oregon and Texas bank accounts....,.my figure was out of Day's own mouth when he told his fan base he needed 10 million more last year🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man Ohio Staye only had to go half the field cause Indiana could not move the ball at all after the first drive. So stop trying to hype up their defense Klatt
boise st. has not played anyone they don't deserve to be ranked.all the other tough leagues are beating themselves and knocking each other.IF boise were in any tough league they would have 4 to 5 loses.
How is it dumb. These are arguably 2 of the top teams in football. Having the opportunity to see them face off 3 time in three different settings sounds pretty dope to me. Imagine how much fire these two teams would have meeting up for a 3rd time in a tied season series (1-1) with the natty on the line!!
They played the most exciting game in the entire football season. It’s not dumb. Dumb was watching LSU and Alabama in 2011 go 9-6. Unwatchable game. And then watching them again in the championship 21-0. Also an unwatchable game.
Can anybody tell me why the Sanders hit is dirty? He left the pocket, at that point, he is a receiver, running back, TE, who take those hits every game.
it was dangerous because Sanders suddenly pulled up to throw when he was primed to scramble for a solid gain. wasn't dirty. unfair to Miller that people are making it seem like he's some headhunting monster for making an incidentally dangerous tackle.
21:30 it’s not tough to win on the road in the Big-12, ACC, etc. those stadiums aren’t as big and doesn’t always sell out. there’s only a handpicked number of teams that are legitimately loud. in the SEC, everyone except Vanderbilt, Missouri, Kentucky, and Mississippi State THIS year, was BRUTALLY LOUD. INCLUDING the two new teams and the schools you mentioned are also cherry-picked, USC is not a hard place to play at all
@@danny49279and he didn’t mention any of them. Oregon is the loudest place in the Big-10 now that they joined the conference and has 1/3 less of what Ohio State Penn State and Michigan can pack
It's more than just the atmosphere. These kids have to sit on a bus or a plane and deal with allthat travel while their opponent wakes up in their bed and follows normal routine. Its the same for every sport and most levels. The environment is certainly an added factor but the base level is that it is certainly hard to win on the road.
Scenario: Quarterback fades back to throw a pass and can't find an open receiver. Quarterback, a known scrambler and good runner, scrambles away from the DL rush and heads downfield. Defensive player rushes up to try to prevent a long gain by quarterback in open field. Just before crossing the line of scrimmage and well out of the pocket, quarterback throws the ball downfield. Meanwhile defensive player is starting to dive toward the player he sees running with the ball. A dive is necessary because he knows the speed and elusiveness of runner and that he probably will not be able to catch the runner because of the distance between them. Defensive player is in the air when quarterback releases the ball and wraps his arms around QB's knees and lower legs to make the tackle because his desperation dive was from too far away to hit QB higher. Great defensive effort, great defensive play, right? Well, not according to self-proclaimed football "expert" Klatt who calls it one of the cheapest shots he's ever seen. And this guy is supposed to be a great football guru? Bias? Ignorance? Hubris? Who knows
Bro what?!? Not an indictment on Indiana?! 150 total yards!! They cannot move the ball on a top tier defense - Texas Bama Georgia Tenn would all shut them right down
Lol Apparently it only took Oklahoma to shut down Bama. I think Alabama had 250 yd against Oklahoma, Ohio Stank would Make Alabama and Tennessee look just as bad. Tennessee went what 3 games without scoring a touchdown in the first half against inferior opponents. Lol
@ JackHammond-tq6cl Lmaooooooooo Alabama couldn’t stop a runny nose against OU. OU is a horrific offensive team. I’ve watched every single game of theirs this year and they don’t know what a first down is. Stop. Stop being clownish.
@ Counting3s OU is not top 10 in any defensive category. And if you’re looking at the recruiting again no. They aren’t elite on the defensive side compared to other talent around the country. Also. Aside from Texas and sort of Alabama they haven’t played any high powered offenses. And really. Alabama is not high powered on offense. What impressed me more or maybe revealed Alabamas defense is really bad was OU moving the ball 🤣 That team hasn’t been able to do anything on offense most of the season. Jackson Arnold is not a college QB.
Just like Bama shut down Vandy and Oklahoma lol gat outta here. Vandy lost to Georgia St. Georgia state has won 3 games all year. Put 7 SEC teams in I don’t care. Makes it an easy path for the Big 10 to make the championship game.
What shocked you the most from week 13?
Man, where to begin? 😂 Georgia struggling for 3 quarters against UMass is my honorable mention. HoweverI gotta go with Oklahoma completely shutting down Bama. I mean Jalen Milroe might have played his way out of being drafted early in the 1st round with that performance. But honestly, the most shocking thing, was that we got all of these upsets in one week! Anybody else getting flashbacks to "The Year of Upsets," 2007? 12-2 LSU beating 11-2 Ohio State in the BCS championship game, because of all the top 2 teams losing in front of them week after week? No? Just me?
The SEC is so good this year by a wide margin. Ohio State gave Indiana no room to breathe. Ole Miss loss to Florida was crazy to watch but a good game. Penn state survived but also a good game to watch
@@Jesy-k5w no*
Downfall of Jalen Milroe and Bama... Milroe is great but they rely on him to do everything for that offense.
Alabama losing!
The 300-odd yards of total offense is misleading. Ohio State had a short field for a lot of the game. They only punted twice the entire game, a 3-and-out on the first drive and another at the end of the third quarter. They drove 75 yds for a TD and 83 yds to the 1 yard line before they were stopped. Their other long-field possession they had back to back penalties and kicked a field goal. Indiana made them work for it but they weren't really stopping them.
They played them good until they imploded on special teams
They stopped them 4 times actually a turnover is a stop and they had an intercom as well
@andrewgiegerich8211 obviously Ohio State did not score on every single drive. I'm talking about the 300 yards of offense was not because Indiana was dominating on the line, or smothering the receivers, or anything like that. Ohio State only had 56 recorded plays. That's over 5-1/2 yards per play. Indiana had roughly the same number of plays, same time of possession, half the yards and six punts (including the muffed one). THAT is stopping an offense.
Nothing says I could care less about your defense then 3 and 40 and OSU gets a 1st down....
@ml1754 to be fair, it was 35 and not 40, but you point stands strong
@@marchedge4940💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
No way Bama should be talked about @ all the rest of the season!
Bama was embarrassing
Nope!!
Bama is done....no consistent defense.
3 losses can't get in I agree, but Bama, Ole Miss, and half the SEC would mop Indiana. They've played no one, the SEC slaughters itself but they are clearly the best I don't think anyone denies that.
You already know Bama getting in over a 2 loss ACC team bro lmao😂
22:00 another common claim among SEC fans is that the best team in Conference X would be like the seventh best team in the SEC. Well, teams from other conferences joined the SEC, and now, Texas is alone at the top, A&M is right there alongside Georgia and Tennessee, and Alabama got cooked by Oklahoma on Saturday. So there you go.
SEC Fanboy: "What, I can't hear you," plugs ears with index fingers, "S-E-C!, S-E-C!, S-E-C!" *repeats while running away*
A and m has been in the sec for over 10 years now
Oklahoma is a bad example they have like 5 sec losses
And Texas hasn't played a top 10 sec team yet
Other than getting embarrassed by Georgia
@andrewgiegerich8211 your bad example just trucked Alabama.
The SEC fans did not wait until A&M joined the conference, and only then, *fiiiinally* said, okay, NOW every team outside the SEC is garbage, we weren't sure before, but at long last we can make this boast, and we'll be talking every year about how dominant and amazing the Aggies are.
@@andrewgiegerich8211 "S-E-C!, S-E-C!, S-E-C!"
@@andrewgiegerich8211The same Georgia team that almost lost to Kentucky, who Texas just throttled playing with a injured QB the 2nd half, same Georgia team that got worked by Ole Miss, who Florida just worked over, Texas demolished Florida too and scored 49 points on Fla. Every team has a bad night, ours just happened to be against a Ga team that has won 2 NCs recently. Hate Texas all you want, but they deserve their #3 ranking, and the committee agrees. Texas is more than SEC ready, which was such BS to hear that nonsense. We won't win the SEC title, and I'm cool with that, it's our first year, we are already dominating the aggies again in our first year in the SEC 😂
The only reason IU held OSU to their season low is because they kept giving them great field position.
Exactly plus a punt return for TD another possible 70 yard possession lost.
You seem to be the first person I’ve seen understand that
Agreed! People miss that and 21 points we left on the board, 14 from thec2 red zone trips and 7 on the missed trey pass to open the game
Yup.
If they had punted well or not given up punt returns etc.
They only stopped Ohio State on 1 drive all game I think? Yeah.
I don't understand how even Joel Klatt isn't realizing this. They had 79 yards on a punt return - that's one offensive drive. Then there were short fields on a fumble and the botched punt.
It's not like Indiana held them. They converted that 3rd and 35 in two plays without breaking a sweat. Ohio State averaged nearly 6 ypp (5.64).
Congratulations on not picking a Service Academy over Notre Dame this time Joel, you did it🍀
Haha, Notre Dame fans hooting and hollering about beating a service academy as if they just beat the Kansas City Chiefs 😂. Give your head a shake…
Notre dame should be forced to join a conference
He also said "COLORADO IS FOR REAL"
@jeffrywebb1749 nah it's not that serious. 🍀
@@YodaSmokes this has been said for the last 30 years and will be said for the next 30.😉
In hindsight, Vanderbilt's win over Alabama doesn't look quite as impressive.
It’s still impressive for Vandy but maybe not in overall context.
Vandy had not beat them in 40 years.
It also speaks more to Alabamas fall from grace.
Sure it is....the talent gap is huge
😂😂. Especially their run defense. They got pushed around!!
@@scotthamilton3469de:d:d:d:as
NO, I repeat, NO 3-loss team deserves to be in the playoffs. PERIOD
Facts
false.
Georgia if they lose the SECCG
@@ugadawgs831 im pretty sure he meant regular season. Conference chip game loss should not be used against anybody in the nation.
That seems like a very simplistic take, you don’t think there will EVER be a situation where a 3 loss team might get in?
Between their first score with 7:00 to go in the first quarter, and the start of the garbage-time TD drive with 9:00 to go in the fourth quarter, that's 43 minutes, Indiana had 3 yards of offense. Three yards in essentially three quarters.
Joel, as a Bama fan, you’re so right about them. Got caught looking at the goal rather than the destination. Hope things change next year. God bless you!
That is one factor. But there are others. Alabama doesn’t have it on defense. Milroe is not a good passer.
Boomer Sooner
Oklahoma exposed Alabama’s biggest problem, the quarterback. OU’s coach knows how to beat bama
Ohio State has 80 blue chip players and Indiana has 4. That’s the reason.
C'mon, man, You gotta have a better take than that. Why did South Carolina women win the national title last year? Better players and...better coaching? Duke men's basketball. Didn't they have better players under coach K than most teams? It is what it is. 30 straight over Indiana, Hoosier fan. ... maybe next year.
It was a great Cinderella story but they rarely stand up to blue blood programs
This just makes Michigan’s win even more glorious
. Period
Stars matter
Loved the Indiana breakdown. Makes complete sense.
It really doesn't.. Indiana hasn't beaten a team with less than 5 losses
But it doesn’t? Indiana has an absolute garbage strength of schedule and has beat nobody…
@@andysmith9243 did you actually watch the video? Indiana’s SOS is 51st now, better than Miami, SMU, and ND
@@jtm-25 and it drops again after playing Purdue. They have beat nobody. Tell me a good team they have beat. I’ll wait.
@@andysmith9243 you guys really show your extreme lack of knowledge and understanding of the game when you make comments like this it doesn’t matter they have one of the best records in the country simple as that. Their only loss comes to the number two team in the country they’re in. The breakdown made complete sense you not understanding it just shows your lack of knowledge.
In College Football, it's tough to win on the road... PERIOD!!! No comma needed for those who can't hear in the back. LOVE this! 😎👏👏👏
Tell that to the clowns who think Penn State winning by 1 against a top 15 defense is somehow a reflection on Penn State. How many teams in the top 25 wish they had just one more win by 1 point to get into the playoffs?
That was a great quote right lol because it’s the truth. This isn’t 2008 the SEC isn’t the biggest and baddest. They are top heavy with even their top teams taking Ls. What’s fascinating is it seems like since the 12 team was announced teams have lost focus. Almost like it’s ok if we lost here and here now. Idk just an opinion
The only home field advantage in American sports is in baseball.
@@killermonjero Really? Who goes to baseball games to create any advantage? LOL!
@@heartbreak25Phil’s fans.
Bama is out.... 3 losses is enough to say its over for them, enjoy that wonder bowl,and their not alone :)
You would think so, wait though for some mental gymnastics to justify keeping them in. As a new fan of the SEC, I am starting to see why fans say there is a Bama bias in the SEC.
@@Allen-hg2huas a BAMA fan I disagree. We aren’t making it and nobody is arguing that we should.
@@andysmith9243Bro watch one ESPN video and you won’t be saying that 😂
@@LM.211 no. There’s no reason to watch ESPN period. Of course they would be the ones saying we should make it but no, that’s so stupid
Joel, your take on Shedeur pushing the ref as “bullcrap” smells of some homerism. You can still love the guy and be a fan of his AND call him out for that behavior.
Anything the Sanders do is okay with Klatt
But y’all don’t keep this same energy for the dirty hit on Shedeur that could’ve ended his career?
You guys be realistic he didn’t “push” the ref with malice. He extended his arm as the ref was backing up on him. You’re blowing it out of proportion. Don’t you think if the ref feels he was pushed he would have called it. Or the other ref standing right to his right? Come on
@@whydidiwastemytimeonthis4581 it was a cheap shot and shouldn’t of happened. But, Shedeur shouldn’t also have let his ego take over and push a ref because he thinks he’s better than him. 🤷🏻♂️
The colorado Homer's are going to come for you.
He did shove the official. He should have been ejected. Denying it is silly. Klatt is great, but he is so biased when it comes to Colorado.
He shoved the official because Kansas players are shoving his head in the ground when the plays already done. What Shedeur did isn’t right but no one has the same energy for the dirty hit on Shedeur that could’ve ended his career.
any of us would be.
There wasn’t a flag on the play at all! Colorado DBs tackle like that all the time! Only thing hurt was his feelings!
@@whydidiwastemytimeonthis4581doesn't matter
All I know is a GD 3 loss Alabama does NOT belong in the playoff....NO 3 LOSS TEAM SHOULD BE REWARDED sorry but thats the way I see it!
Agree
I was saying IU wasn’t deserving to be in but after listening to Joel I can’t argue.
Let me help. IU intentionally scheduled ZEROs for non-conference games. Their weak schedule actually IS partially their own responsibility. Power rankings reflect their weakness. ESPN has them at 11. Sagarin at 14. You can't expect the committee to just let them in. P.S. They play a pathetic Purdue team this week. The IU strength of schedule will dip... likely below top 40 again.
@@737smartinDoesn't make any difference. They're in.
@JakeM25 They likely are... but I CAN SEE why they might not be. Love Pratt's work, but his blind spot for (or intentionally ommission of) the glaring negatives working against IU is disturbing.
@@737smartinif Miami gets in, Indiana should get in ahead of them.
He didn't shove the official?!?!?! Come on Joel, you know you are wrong for that!
And that hit wasn't dirty, there is like a 3 square inch area where players are allowed to hit a qb without getting called dirty anymore. He wanted to take down and can't hit high or get a targeting call, can't land on him or get a roughing the passer call. The only place they can go anymore is low and half the time the qb will just jump over when you don't wrap up. Was it bad form, sure, was it dirty, I don't think so. But I'm just a TH-cam idiot what do I know. I turned the vid off when he said that hit was solely to hurt backup aflac spokesmans kid.
@mattschwartz7583 I agree with you, there were dirty plays and cheap shots by KU and they should have been called and maybe had players ejected for them, but Joel always preaches Personal Responsibility and you cannot let a player shove a ref, point, blank, period 🤷🏽♂️
ELIJAH ARROYO is one of the best TEs in the country, Miami doesn’t get him the ball enough he’s an athletic freak, idk if y’all watch much of the canes but he jumps of your screen,
I'll have to watch the rest of Miami's season, because I'm a huge fan of David Njoku and it sounds like Miami might be a breeding ground for Uber athletic TEs.
I disagree Penn St TE is the best in the country.
He said one of the best
I was shocked they beat Miss
Oh yeah and Alabama sucks lol
Buckeye Nation here. Our Special Teams finally played well.
Put Caleb downs back there and they will look good more often he is a difference maker
Definitely signs that effort is being made . Has to improve . Better tackling & swarming to stop returns . Better blocking on returns and the punter should have an objective as to where he's trying to place the ball . I mean basics , deep , away from someone or inside the 10 (we've had punters in recent history who aimed for inside the 5 and guys out running the kick waiting to down it) .
I’m a Ducks fan but I’ll admit the Buckeyes looked good this past weekend. Oregon should be healthy again for the conference championship game. It should be really good! Both are in the playoff, regardless of the outcome!
@elijahmcelroy2577 no doubt. I'd love for buckeyes to roll ttun and then beat Oregon, but it is nice knowing that the playoff now allows for a loss or two lol
Oklahoma didn’t just beat Alambama. They dominated Bama without half their Oline room (which aren’t that talented anyway) and their top 6 WRs. Good luck to the SEC if OU gets a couple top recruiting classes, a better OC, and can stay healthy.
OU doesn’t have the coach to get them there. Jackson Arnold is not a college QB that can get you there.
OU offense was inept when everyone was healthy.
@@jbaker7439 Problem is... OU offense hasn't been healthy all year. Top 6 receivers been out the whole year haha.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.
One game doesn't change your narrative, OU is a terrible team still with a DC posing as a head coach. BV is in over his head. This win was more a indictment on Bama and the dropoff from Saban, than a positive about OU. OU scraped by a bad Auburn team, and needed some hail Mary type plays to get by......Houston. Houston, really?
That being said, LSU is terrible, I give Zero U a good chance of winning that game too.
OU needs a rebuild and change in culture, and better players to be good year in and year out. With so many programs recruiting Tx now, OU will not be getting the caliber of players they used to every year, recruiting will be more crucial to win in the SEC.
Look forward to this every week for my Monday ride home from work. Thanks Klatt
KU's offensive line deserves more credit for the win over CU. The holes they created were huge.
Combined with bad tackling.
CU was making contact at or behind the line of scrimmage on80% of the runs. CU was missing tackles or RB/QB was breaking tackles the offensive line wasn't playing that great.
@@DB-rw9ld 80%? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
@@NickCager Yes. rewatch it was broken tackles and missed tackles. KUs online wasn't doing anything special....
@@DB-rw9ld He rushed for nearly 300 yards. The CU wasn't making contact in the backfield 80 percent of the time. And you want me to rewatch it?
you're spot on. I truly love the chaos this playoff format causes. Football madness for sure.
Couldn't happen to a better team, Alabama fans are finally accepting that they're not "THE team" anymore despite their preseason chest-puffing about having a perfect program. Love to see them fail miserably like this.
At least this year
Get a life lol
They will be back. They have heard this before and just keep recruiting.
Daboer could still easily make a dynasty again. 3 losses going through the gauntlet in his first year is not the worst he could’ve done. What really sucks is who they lost to
They were nothing before Saban, they are nothing without Saban
I am a Buckeye and Indiana deserves to be in the CFP.
Agree
🤣🤣🤣
Why? So another team can beat the brakes off of them? 😂
I totally agree with the top 5 atmosphere analysis. I don't think Indiana was going to win that game but I do think they are a better team than what they showed v OSU. They were on the road against a top 5 team in a tough atmosphere. In future they'll handle it better and make fewer mistakes.
This Ducks fan agrees...Go B1G!
Shedeur shoved the official, it’s on camera Joel.
I find it odd that he ignores the obvious classless behavior of the Sanders group. I know he is a CU alumni, but still as a analyst you need to be able to put aside your loyalty in the interest of having professional integrity and being neutral.
I look forward to the day the sanders boys fail, and loudmouth deeyawn goes back into the shadows so we don't have to hear his constant narcissistic yapping all the time.
Didn't like him as a player, don't like him as a coach. His fake personality is easy to see through, I'm amazed at how easily some fans are fooled by his lies and fake persona.
@ CU players are dirty and maybe the most undisciplined team in the country and that’s two years of undisciplined dirty play.
@@Allen-hg2hu it’s hard to see something when you’re gagging on Sanders c**k
The only guy I want to see fail more than Deion and his sons is the biggest media-manufactured fake goat in sports history, LeFraud James.
Joel saying that Indiana has been far more dominant in their wins than Notre dame when ND leads the country in point differential is wild. Not to mention they’ve beaten much better teams than them
And lost to NIU
@ yup and teams can’t improve over multiple months. Eye test is part of the criteria for the committee and I would say Notre dame has passed that
Only reason they have that differential is because OSU beat em this week. IU had that before this week if im not mistaken.
If ND is mad about anything, be mad they made the chances lower by losing to a MAC school.
@@Hazamandeous*a bad MAC team, at that
@@MrCDER Indiana's best win is against a 6-5 Michigan team as a matter of fact they have zero wins against a team that has less than 5 losses
To me, Penn State is the most confusing team in the Big Ten. 1 score wins vs Bowling Green, USC, and Minnesota the other day. They look really good at times and then you look up and they're in a fight at the end of the game vs a bad team. I know they're gonna make the playoff, I'm just saying they are the most confusing team for my brain!
Idk what they were doing vs Bowling Green, but USC and Minnesota are better than their records indicate and both were on the road. Both teams have lost a few close games this year. In a world of increasing college football parity, a few plays here and there is the only difference between 8-2 or 9-1 and 6-4 or 5-5.
For example, the week before Penn St played USC, USC was ranked about #12. They lose a one score game on the road vs Minnesota and the AP poll dropped them over 13 spots and out of the top-25. If they had played one week earlier, Penn St would have another ranked win. I aslo wouldn't be surprised if USC goes out and beats ND this week.
@@kevinbeck7007 Talent wise USC definitely can beat ND...I just know these days some guys don't feel like there's anything to play for at the end of the year and even if it's just a few guys, that can make the difference. I guess my point about PSU was that I think they could beat anyone in the country on a neutral field, but could also probably lose to the other 11 teams just as easily. Either way, my team aint sniffing the playoff so I'm just enjoying the chaos and hoping for good games.
Bama too
Indiana also played the two teams in the national championship last year. No one knew both of them would be that bad.
To be fair michigan and Washington lost their coaches and alot of players. They aren't really that bad, I think either team could give colorado a good game.
I said before the a$$kicking they would get rolled....that said IU should be in no question....after all the chaos in SEC land.
Everyone knew Michigan was going to have a down year. Not sure what the consensus on Washington was.
Actually everyone knew they would be that bad…? Did you pay zero attention?
Yeah. But they are bad. Might have looked good on paper, but not so great as the season unfolds.
Usually a big fan of Joel's takes on the sport, but saying Shedeur didn't shove the official is bullcrap. Joel, if you can pull the footage from the hit on Shedeur, then you're plenty capable of pulling the footage on the shoving match. C'mon man.
As a buckeye fan, I want no mercy this Saturday. Score better be 70-0
It won't be 70, but UM is gonna get pounded. [disclosure: I am neither a UM or OSU alum or fan]
Ok we Wolverines will show no mercy, even when we are up by seventy.
Well on the flip side all the pressure is on the bucks bc Michigan is looking ahead so hard that even losing by 14 would be cause for celebration
You better hope they aren't cheating.
OSU would’ve scored that much on Indiana but the games have been shortened by 50% since 2023.
Buckeye fan here. The game never felt close to me.!
Indianas second score didn't come till 2 min left in the game
I wish I'd of missed the 1st qtr .
I just wish Cignetti showed a little respect to the opponent before the game. He was way too cocky
Will howard on camera saying "Google that"....hilarious
I wouldn't say that. He had to change the culture of IU. Make the team and fan base believe they can win.
He was just playing up the bravado and having a little fun with the interviewer. It's not that serious lol.
@@MajorBasedboth can be true
I think he was too polite.
Epic day in College Football
1st IU drive (the bye week gimme) 70 yards
Last IU drive (the prevent defense) 75 yards
ALL other drives 6 yards. SIX!
It's goin to be the same story in the playoffs for Indiana. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@Matttaylor016Just depends on who they play. They won't face a defense as good as OSUs no matter who they draw.
Home field advantage can be enormous in college football. I love that!!!
Probably the best episode of this show I’ve ever listened to. Thanks for serving FACTS Joel. Couldn’t agree more
Thanks, Joel...a terrific. exciting college football season indeed...the expanded playoffs are going to be great
Not a cheap shot on Saunders
If that’s a cheap shot RBs and WRs get that multiple times during a game. You can tackle as a defender anymore. You hit the high it’s a problem you hit them low it’s a problem. It’s football and meant to be violent. If the hit was super late I’d agree but it wasn’t
QBs get special treatment. Thats the modern game. Both CFB and the NFL are not hiding that fact. It is by the rule a penalty that should be called. Not saying I agree with the rule, it is what it is.
1. The hit was late.
2. It wasn’t the only questionable behavior targeting Shedeur.
@@mcallarse I disagree he had already starting lunging as the ball came off fingers. It’s only being labeled as dirty bc of where he hit him
@@daryinmedley8292 and shedeur was outside the pocket running towards the LOS when the defender started his lunge. If he didn't pull up to throw and carried on like a regular ballcarrier the hit would've looked totally normal. It was unfortunate but incidental and we're all glad he's okay.
Never disappoint! Love your show! Great as always!
What SOS ranking are you looking at? I’ve checked 5 of them and they all show ND’s as tougher than Indiana’s. And ND’s resume outside their losses is now stronger than IU’s as well - Indiana USED TO lead the country in point differential, but no longer. You guessed it: ND now leads at +301.
So that invalidates all of the ND slander you saw fit to cram into a 10 minute IU segment.
Paul Finebaum is to the SEC what Joel Klatt is to the Big 10. Joel Klatt is just a more composed analyst so people take him more seriously. He's going to cherry pick stats/models that support the most Big 10 teams getting into the playoffs.
Joel, the hit on Sanders low to me looked more like an adjustment to the rules than cheap. Look at the flags for hitting qb's anywhere near the line above their belly button. Maybe it was a cheap shot, but it could easily be a smart adjustment to the nonsense protection they put on qb's that has made them almost untouchable when at full speed.
Joel Klatt seems to be one of the few objectively honest voices in college football
Klatt is a big10 homer that hates the SEC
truly hilarious
You can't be serious.
GTFOH he’s a Michigan homer
@@freeone5534you can't be serious
Joel is the voice of college football.
CAN NOT WAIT for the excuses to pour out of the Disney/ESPN/SEC/CFP Money Monster.
"But but but but..."
😂
Time for those 4-loss SEC arguments. It's cute that fully grown adults still get to live in that fantasy.
@@joshcordle5329 Tn fan and i approved this message.
15 outta last 18 national championships. Sec is king
So, are you against monopolies? Because it would be great if Americans ACTUALLY cared about that kind of stuff. real life vs games. What a concept? Thinking about how corporate monopolies manipulate our lives, sports, economies, etc...
The AP putting alabama at 13th with three losses and two against unranked teams is criminal.
Someone needs to follow that money trail.
The loss to Vandy alone should get you kicked from playoff consideration.
I’m not about to say that OU hasn’t been awful this year with all of the injuries and offensive complications. The difference in this game is that they finally committed to the qb run and was able to generate some decent offense, enough to control the clock and field position.
The offensive line finally had some continuity and knew what they were doing.
That defensive performance though was not a fluke. That’s what BV has been building and they put together a full game.
Not claiming any national championships by any means - but them OU boys are coming.
How good of a metric is SOS anyway? Indiana basically jumps up 50 spots for getting their doors blown off by Ohio State, but they only have 3 wins over teams above .500 (all 6-5).
Meanwhile, Notre Dame’s SOS is substantially below them, but they have 6 wins (twice as many!) over teams with at least 7 wins.
Yes, ND’s SOS is really suffering from how down FSU and USC are. I just find it curious that IU gets a huge SOS bump for a stinker at OSU when ND’s schedule has consistently been stronger than IU’s.
You're thinking of SOR vs SOS. SOS goes up or down weather you win or lose. It's about who you've played not how you performed. Now their SOR probably took a nice hit after that game.
@@kylewebb469yes, SOR and SOS should be used together.
Lol...if your point is ND looks better to the eyes and are probably more talented than IU, you'll get few arguments. But, if you're stating that the ND schedule is tough... you're lying to yourself.
@@Al-Rudigorthat statement makes no sense considering strength of record is based on how you performed against your schedule(you know your strength of schedule).
@Teesroad go look it up. They are different. Don't make it my job to educate you. You have the Internet.
Joel, I love your podcast. you are my most-watched podcast of the year! Keep up the CFB talks!
WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT NOTRE DAME? YOU WERE SO HIGH ON THEM AND THEN RILEY GETS HURT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NIU GAME WE GO AWAY FROM RILEY RUNNING (THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER) AND TRY TO SQUEAK AWAY AND THEN THEY DOMINATE AND NOW YOU THINK SO POORLY OF THEM. I don’t understand. Watch out for them!
Notre dame always has been and always will be as real as mante teo’s girlfriend. They gunna get blown out as soon as they play a real team
@ Texas A&M isn’t a real team? They have a shot to win the SEC. That was a 10 point win for the Irish ☘️
@darius10thp ^
@@brendenalecdudley they have 3 losses no they aren’t lol
@ only 2 in conference goofy
I understand trying to be sympathetic to Indiana but saying that the game vs Oregon was too big for OSU is insane. Its a 1 point loss on the road across multiple time zones in what was a really competitive team (#1 vs #2). are we just to say that ALL games where you lose you lost because it was 'too big'? And not just you were about as evenly matched as could be vs a respectable team? Indiana was not prepared. Georgia absolutely was not prepared in the first half and ended up losing to a bad team. But there's got to be a winner and loser in top 5 matchups and sometimes it is not down to preparation, merely the fact that the game desires a winner.
Since the NIU loss notre dame has been blowing theyre opponent's out. Miami has ben in nail bitters almost every week. And don't forget maiami was scheduled to play ND this year. But miami backed out at the last minute.
Well ND will have a chance next year
ND has a very weak schedule this year. The loss to NIU should penalize the Irish. If ND wants to remain independent that is fine but it should be penalized more severely because it won’t join a conference. Beating bottom feeder teams like Indiana has this year, should be considered when looking at ND.
@@GBU61 ND has beaten 2 teams currently in the top 25. how many has indiana beaten? 0. And nd doesn't play any division 2 teams
@@GBU61 Road win at A&M? Neutral blowouts over ranked Army and a then-ranked Navy. Beat Louisville/Georgia Tech who have 7 wins as well.
The more I think about it the more I believe some players at Alabama threw that game. It’s a speculative world. Just can’t make any sense of that performance.
Looked like Milroe layed down more than a few times. Then the half hearted slide to impede the pick six.
I don’t think those players want the coach they currently have.
It just doesn’t add up.
You are one of the perceptive college fans out there.
Joel Klatt is smacking Paul Finebaum in the face right now. Let's gooooo Big Ten!!!!
Penn State is gonna get smacked first round and you know it. Same with Indiana
I wouldn't brag with those weak big 10 schedules.
@@vickiwampler9823 We will see how the SEC teams play in the cold weather
@@Bakernick36That cold weather stuff is media talk lol. Yall act like it is below freezing everywhere lol
@@CWDATRUTH1911 The first round is December 20-21 East Pa will be between 38-26 and Indiana will be below 30.
13:08 316 total yards yeah when their average starting position is the IU 43 yard line don’t really need to go that far and the special teams if we play that game then Ohio state should have had an additional 14 points on the red zone stop and the interception on the 10 yard line because the ball was wet and slipped which is the same narrative you used for IU’s punter see it goes both ways you can’t say “well if this” cause you can do it for Ohio State too, I also don’t know why you view IU’s last touchdown as just a grab to make the game look closer when Ohio state had some 2nd teamers in and playing prevent, 4 minute defense to chew up clock if they didn’t do that IU probably doesn’t score, the final score was 31-7 before the garbage time scoring happened
I came to the comment section to say this as well.
Joel. How many total yards did Indiana have in the 2nd and 3rd quarter?..
8!!!!!😂😅
Cool story. Theyre in the playoff
@@JakeM25 probably not "if" they lose Purdue..and it's a major if.
The abundance of common sense in Joel's analysis is always refreshing.
But he's still a big ten shill. That's who writes his checks and he's taking a big one to the bank tomorrow signed by the Indiana Hoosiers. What a load!
Lmaoooo Joel last week was sooooo sure saying Oklahoma "could not in ANY way" beat Alabama 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joel and anyone who is not a sooners fan. AL just sucks
So you predicted that outcome? Bet some money on it?
So did 99.9% of people that watch cfb. Definitely not that funny
The 12 team playoff saved college football and that’s without any exaggeration, more teams are motivated to pull of an upset even if a team has already lost a couple games because there’s still a chance for some teams to make it even with a couple losses. The intensity is unmatched this season and I’m here for it
We need Texas @ Penn State in the first round please
The energy that Kenny D from Arizona State displays is unmatched!!!
HOW ABOUT THE BUCKEYES OFFENSIVE LINE BABY!!
Ohio State, Penn State, IU, and Oregon will get exposed in the playoffs. The Big 10 is weak, overrated, and soft. Ohio State plays only one competitive game each year. By the way ; Ohio State is 0-9 in bowl games versus SEC opponents.
Joel, why do you hate Notre Dame this year!?
1. They are scoring 39 points per game (5th in the nation)
2. They are allowing 11.6 points per game (2nd in the nation)
3. They beat 4 ranked teams this year, including a double digit win over Texas A&M at Kyle field
We count on you for rational, unbiased analysis, so what gives?
Let em know Joel. The SEC is not as good as it used to be
Joel doing damage control for ShaDURR and DEEON lol
Love you Joel
Natty going through Oregon or Ohio St
Don't be surprised if you see Georgia in there.
Go Ducks! 🦆
Always good , thanks
Where all the Bama fans?
Here. Not much to talk about other than they have a very subpar program. And no, they will not be in the playoff.
Getting ready for basketball and nascar.
Not for nothing, but OSU/IU was played on a very fast clock. Just a few incompletions from Howard and IU only threw it a handful of times. A lot of running. OSU played on a short field all day, in fact, I think every single play from both teams in the 2nd quarter was played on IU's side of the 50. Felt like an old-school AFC North game at times. Great game either way - gray, drizzle, cold, wet. Football weather!
Indiana strength of schedule will drop again next week when they play 1-10 Purdue.
Saying their schedule is harder than smh and Miami because of 1 game is hilarious. It’s tougher to play 10 teams with a pulse than 1 tough team and 9 bums
It won't drop because Of Purdue. It will drop because of who Other teams play!!
@@adamrm231342I'm assuming you mean SMU an Miami? So who are the 10 teams they played??
@@adamrm231342You're just trying to support your narrative. You think SMU and Miami beat all those teams by 30+? Miami has struggled against most of the teams they've played
Joel is so nice to watch! Easily the most rational takes in the sport and provides a nuanced discussion of details we as fans can sometimes overlook.
Loved your take on the Hoosiers. Got punch in the mouth at the Horseshoe, 99% of other teams would’ve been in a similar boat. Glad the SEC collapsed that helps a ton 🙏🏼
Most other teams aren't playing a high-school schedule
@ 52nd ranked S.O.S. goofy, cope a little harder
@ 52nd ranked S.O.S. goofy, cope a little harder
@ 52nd ranked schedule, get a grip and cope a little harder
@@chasejackson7248😢
Correction: Ohio State had it's fewest total yards on the year against Nebraska, not IU.
I still remember tons of IU fans trying to compare their win over Nebraska as a reason they would’ve beat us, clearly didn’t matter
@@calebleeson5662 Yeah lol.
Only talking about recruiting because its good news for Colorado.
Joel not even giving OU a little credit for dominating Bama B.T.A. style just shows where the Sooners stand in terms of respect and credibility. OU has the most absurd injury list out of any team and roster, and they beat Bama 24-3. I get it, we’re 6-5, but come on Joel💀
OU got worked by the good teams they faced.
They struggled mightily to beat....Houston and Auburn, and choked the game away at Missouri.
That is easily 2 more losses you should have, OU is worse than their record.
Stop using the injury excuse, it's called having depth at the skill positions, every team has to deal with multiple injuries every year, they don't beat that same drum like Zero U does. If anything, that is a huge red flag and failure on your S&C program that your players keep getting hurt. You don't have SEC type players, is one reason, and your S&C program is apparently failing also. Development, its necessary to have at this level at all positions, OU doesn't have it. This isn't the B12, OU needs a reset and culture change.
@Allen-hg2hu yeah, but we're better than Bama 😂
CU has lost to a 6 loss team, a 5 loss team and a 3 loss team. I don't see a quality win on their schedule. Let's hope they don't somehow back into the playoffs.
When it comes to CFB, Joel has no competition as an analyst.
I’m shocked at how many people still don’t know about him I recommend him to every college football fan I meet
Huh? He picked navy outright over ND and now he says Indiana strength of schedule is better than Miami and ND lmao... Indiana hasn't beaten a team with less than 5 losses 😂...his credibility is questionable at best
Besides his bias against the SEC, as he's stated.
Yeah unfortunately the network he works for is a joke and he’s the color commentator on the dumbest broadcast in college football. “Big Noon Saturday” lol
When did he state that?@@andrewmcmurray8081
OSU offense reminding me a good bit of those 2021-2022 Monken offenses at UGA where they didn't just have a reliance on big star players but several players that they could just turn to given match ups and situations. also, IU - gained 70 yards on their scripted opening series - they gained -3 yards the rest of the game until it was 31-7. They were never going to win that game, and they probably wouldn't have crossed the 50 if OSU had kept the starting defense out there.
Joel Klatt is an absolute professional and my favorite college sports analyst. I always look forward to Monday morning because of this podcast 💯
Teamed up with Gus there isn’t a better team in TV broadcasting.
@fish509b agreed and yeah Guss is my guy too
Alabama lost because Oklahoma outplayed them. Give credit to the Sooners for not giving up and for developing their players throughout the season. They played with heart and it showed.
Shedeur got cheap shotted! Ignores that he shoves an official. You are such a homer Klatt
Great commentary as always. This is the kind of thought process we need in the committee in deciding the top 12. I would add that given WHO Georgia lost too and who they beat, a 3 loss Georgia team should still make the playoffs.
Indiana should be in. They had 1 bad half all year. 2 special teams miscues and a late OSU TD. Otherwise this could have been a 1 score game. Plus I bet 10 bucks for them to make the playoff 2 months ago. That’s really the reason they should be in.
Talked about the Kansas player cheap shot and then glossed over Shedeur pushing a ref like he didn't actually do that 😂
All I can tell you is if an SEC team traveled to the Horseshoe last Saturday instead of Indiana the result would have been exactly the same. To the SEC teams coming to Columbus - "You walk over but you're limping back."
ohio state looks good. as a texas fan, i know we gotta play better but sec is also super overrated. we should've blown away arkansas the way we were playing, and i get the comments it's tough sec. they lost to the last place big 12 team.
Oklahoma will come and play
@@infamousprime694 Get ready for a flag plant!
Love the confidence
Dang, avoid Columbus , if you don't, you'll be using a cane to navigate when you leave...
It is tough to win on the road in general. But its harder to win on the road in the SEC because even teams with worse records have a higher caliber of player (evidenced by number of player drafted) and these players are capable of playing at a high level on any given Saturday. Its tough to win anywhere but its toughest to win on the road against better players.
I think peoples hesitation with Indiana, Is that since they don't live at the top like osu, Georgia, etc. People want to see a quality win before they buy in. Indiana doesn't have a great win this year.
Indiana doesn’t have a *good win this year
miami doesnt have a quality win yet either
Peoples hesitations with Indiana is the logo on their jerseys. If they had OSU jerseys with that same resume exactly they would be a top 5 team no doubt.
But they also don’t have a bad loss which all the SEC teams have at least 1
@@charliegriffey7773are the jerseys the reason they had a total of only 151yds as a top 5 ranked team? i mean rourke passed for 68😂 they simply ain’t good enough. Zero quality wins. Holding Penn state to no offensive touchdowns is a quality win
Klatt the resume debate wasn’t between Indiana and smu or Miami. It was between Indiana and 2 loss bama, 2 loss Tennessee. It doesn’t matter anymore because of the 3rd loss.
Ryan Day going for it on 4th and 10 was so key. So glad to see him call that up.
The best team $20 million plus can buy three years in a row.....and the big time coach still loses the big games
@@leemarie7724 His past history would be completely different if he had a competent kicker in the Peach Bowl.
@@leemarie7724there’s 3 other teams that spent more and didn’t win it either, go do your research. Oregon and Texas both spent more I’m not sure why people only talk about Ohio State
@@calebleeson5662 oops sorry didn't know you were an expert on Oregon and Texas bank accounts....,.my figure was out of Day's own mouth when he told his fan base he needed 10 million more last year🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
U left out Texas A&M who spent all that doe on Jimbo.
31:53 that hit was completely legal. It was a hard hit but completely legal
Man Ohio Staye only had to go half the field cause Indiana could not move the ball at all after the first drive. So stop trying to hype up their defense Klatt
TOSU defense killed em, did you even watch the game? In between the first, and last drive..EIGHT TOTAL YARDS BY THE lossiers! 😂😅
boise st. has not played anyone they don't deserve to be ranked.all the other tough leagues are beating themselves and knocking each other.IF boise were in any tough league they would have 4 to 5 loses.
It's so dumb how we could get Oregon vs Ohio St 3 times this season
If you played for Ohio State or Oregon think how you would feel .
Idk why they didn't consider reseeding after the 1st round. So dumb
How is it dumb. These are arguably 2 of the top teams in football. Having the opportunity to see them face off 3 time in three different settings sounds pretty dope to me. Imagine how much fire these two teams would have meeting up for a 3rd time in a tied season series (1-1) with the natty on the line!!
They played the most exciting game in the entire football season. It’s not dumb.
Dumb was watching LSU and Alabama in 2011 go 9-6. Unwatchable game. And then watching them again in the championship 21-0. Also an unwatchable game.
Can anybody tell me why the Sanders hit is dirty? He left the pocket, at that point, he is a receiver, running back, TE, who take those hits every game.
it was dangerous because Sanders suddenly pulled up to throw when he was primed to scramble for a solid gain. wasn't dirty. unfair to Miller that people are making it seem like he's some headhunting monster for making an incidentally dangerous tackle.
21:30 it’s not tough to win on the road in the Big-12, ACC, etc. those stadiums aren’t as big and doesn’t always sell out. there’s only a handpicked number of teams that are legitimately loud.
in the SEC, everyone except Vanderbilt, Missouri, Kentucky, and Mississippi State THIS year, was BRUTALLY LOUD. INCLUDING the two new teams
and the schools you mentioned are also cherry-picked, USC is not a hard place to play at all
The three largest capacity stadiums in the world are in the big 10
@@danny49279and he didn’t mention any of them. Oregon is the loudest place in the Big-10 now that they joined the conference and has 1/3 less of what Ohio State Penn State and Michigan can pack
It's more than just the atmosphere. These kids have to sit on a bus or a plane and deal with allthat travel while their opponent wakes up in their bed and follows normal routine. Its the same for every sport and most levels. The environment is certainly an added factor but the base level is that it is certainly hard to win on the road.
Scenario: Quarterback fades back to throw a pass and can't find an open receiver. Quarterback, a known scrambler and good runner, scrambles away from the DL rush and heads downfield. Defensive player rushes up to try to prevent a long gain by quarterback in open field. Just before crossing the line of scrimmage and well out of the pocket, quarterback throws the ball downfield. Meanwhile defensive player is starting to dive toward the player he sees running with the ball. A dive is necessary because he knows the speed and elusiveness of runner and that he probably will not be able to catch the runner because of the distance between them. Defensive player is in the air when quarterback releases the ball and wraps his arms around QB's knees and lower legs to make the tackle because his desperation dive was from too far away to hit QB higher. Great defensive effort, great defensive play, right? Well, not according to self-proclaimed football "expert" Klatt who calls it one of the cheapest shots he's ever seen. And this guy is supposed to be a great football guru? Bias? Ignorance? Hubris? Who knows
SEC Fans: "But, but, but..." 😅😂🤣
But but but , more national championships the last 10 years.
20:28 destroys that narrative
@@chasejackson7248 but but but no one cares. this is this year. the past is irrelevant
Texas grad here and Klatt, like normal, is on the money.
Nobody better in the biz.
Starting at 20 min he was cookin!
Bro what?!? Not an indictment on Indiana?! 150 total yards!! They cannot move the ball on a top tier defense - Texas Bama Georgia Tenn would all shut them right down
Lol Apparently it only took Oklahoma to shut down Bama. I think Alabama had 250 yd against Oklahoma, Ohio Stank would Make Alabama and Tennessee look just as bad. Tennessee went what 3 games without scoring a touchdown in the first half against inferior opponents. Lol
Only Oklahoma? Put some respect on it they have an elite defense
@ JackHammond-tq6cl
Lmaooooooooo
Alabama couldn’t stop a runny nose against OU.
OU is a horrific offensive team. I’ve watched every single game of theirs this year and they don’t know what a first down is.
Stop. Stop being clownish.
@ Counting3s
OU is not top 10 in any defensive category. And if you’re looking at the recruiting again no. They aren’t elite on the defensive side compared to other talent around the country.
Also. Aside from Texas and sort of Alabama they haven’t played any high powered offenses. And really. Alabama is not high powered on offense.
What impressed me more or maybe revealed Alabamas defense is really bad was OU moving the ball 🤣
That team hasn’t been able to do anything on offense most of the season. Jackson Arnold is not a college QB.
Just like Bama shut down Vandy and Oklahoma lol gat outta here. Vandy lost to Georgia St. Georgia state has won 3 games all year. Put 7 SEC teams in I don’t care. Makes it an easy path for the Big 10 to make the championship game.