This is awesome. It’s actually James is the one defending the Bengals you can tell Jake has been a Bengals fan for too long lol but I can’t blame him for feeling this way
I wonder how the season would've turned out if the young guys on D got some run earlier in the year and also simplified the scheme like he did three weeks ago? Hubbard was a negative from week 1 and so was Bell. Lou's stubbornness this year is frustrating. Bc this D was all time bad for 3/4 of the season and he didnt change anything for most of it
Another horrible outing from the Oline. They’re pathetic. Another game where officials refuse to call blatant roughing the passer penalties. This is getting ridiculous.
Bengals need a Vontes Burfect at LB right now. Secondary is playing halfway decent. Kris Jenkins is heating up. We need a linebacker that is in on every play.
It would be an absolute malpractice to keep Zac Taylor after this season. There is ZERO reason why we’re on the outside looking in and are behind the colts and dolphins who are absolutely horrrible. Zac needed to win ONE of the one score games we had. ONE and he couldn’t do that. We need a coach who will put the team in the best position to win. Zac DOES NOT do that.
Change Zac to Joe and try this again. Zac didn't fumble against the Chiefs... Didn't fail on 3 RZ attempts against the Commanders, didn't throw 4th Quarter INTs against Ravens (in both games btw), didn't fumble against the Steelers... so blame Zac, sure, but be fair and blame Burrow as well.
@@stevenbalcaitis101Lmao let’s add some context here brotha. Chiefs game, if it isn’t for a DPI on the last defensive play, we win that game! That fumble doesn’t really matter when Joe left the game we were up. Ravens game, we miss a kick to win. Second Ravens game Burrow didn’t even throw a pick idk what you’re talking about. Def should have been better against the Steeelers Leading to league in TDs and passing yards. You’re crazy
Zac is going nowhere! We aren’t 7-8 bc of Zac. We are 7-8 bc our defense sucks. Zac leads offense and we are one of the best in the league. Wake up and quit embarrassing your family w these stupid takes!
We match up badly against the Broncos. We really need OB Jr and Mims to play. Unfortunately the Bengals get one less day of rest and the broncos played Thursday so they're coming off of a mini bye. The NFL really screwed over Cincy when they made the schedule this year. Us and the 49ers had the worst rest advantage of any team and it was by a lot
They have been neck and neck with some of the best teams tho overall they should have been beating at least half of these playoff teams like chargers, Ravens, chiefs,
We can keep saying “meaningful football” and I agree with the current strategy of playing for that last wildcard spot until their chances are at 0%. However if they finish a 9-8 out of the playoffs we as a fanbase cannot provide a shred of slack to this disgrace of a front office, ownership, and coaching staff.
lol why it’s a issue when bengals win against bad teams but other teams with winning records beat bad teams and it’s not used against them 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ WHO DEYY!! Two games left man GOTTA HAVE SO GOT GET EM!!💪🏽💪🏽
We lost to the patriots lol… and Atleast the other teams have winning records beating up on bad teams. We have a losing record while doing it which is just pathetic and much worse.
Excellent point! If we played fewer teams with winning records like the Broncos or Chargers we would be in there exact positions. The past 3 seasons we've had winning records against winning teams so now fans expect that every year. Bengals had so many different people being 1st year Bengal starters/players, they had to endure an adjustment period. Injuries didn't help but they may be hitting their stride now. At least with players being in the right place and knowing what they're doing!
These new young guys on Defense can play..The safeties are playing better.Jamar is a Beast.Always open..Ossiah needs to play more.Battle is getting better.Mckinley Jackson needs to play more
I BLEED BLACK AND ORANGE but ZAC TAYLOR is not to blame the DEFENSE is to blame we are a team and a good organization but our defense wins games and they haven’t been there !
I'm not saying the defense is amazing now. However in seven games we needed one play, just one. Then we're a one loss team. People lose sight of that, against good teams. Do I think this defense is now capable of making one more play, absolutely. I think they beat the Broncos by at least 10.
How much cap space do we clear if we cut BJ Hill, Sam Hubbard, Sheldon Rankins & Jermaine Pratt? About 35 Million. We can roll with McKinnley Jackson and Kris Jenkins as our starters and draft 2 more DTs again. Replace Pratt with Maema Njongmeta and draft another Linebacker for the pipeline. Add a free agent at DE and perhaps draft there as well. I don't see any reason why we can't afford Tee Higgins AND Ja'Marr Chase. We need to get rid of a fleet of Chevy Lumina's and Corsica's so we can keep our Corvette's. That 35 Million would be added to what our cap space will be after the NFL announces the new Cap. I think we are at about 6 million under now. It's projected to be 275 Million. So that takes us to 26 Million under the cap before adding 35 Million in savings from the fleet of Chevy's. So 61 Million under the cap. Tee counts 22 Million towards the cap already, so even if we give him 30 million, that takes our cap space down to 53 Million. 40 Million for Chase, we're down to 13 Million. Then Joe restructures and it goes from there. I know that's an overly simplistic look and guys cap hits differ from year to year. The point is, we can afford to extend Tee and Ja'Marr. We can finish last in defense for a whole lot less money being allocated to it. I think we can blow some overpaid league average players out of the building and replace them for a fraction of the cost.
Burrow has played great but you can also criticize the fumbles. I never remember him fumbling this much and he’s had worse o lines than this and had to create a lot. It’s sort of an issue
To be fair here, they ran Chase Brown on 1st and goal at the 3 for two yards. And 2nd and goal at the 1 for no gain. And the first two plays of the drive. It's not like they're not running him. I have no problem with the call there. If they run Brown again and he doesn't get in then people criticize the predictable play calling. But anything other than Brown that doesn't work and...people criticize the play calling as being too cute or too soft.
This is looking a bit like last season when Burrow was injured and the Pittsburgh game came up (at Pittsburgh) on the schedule with the playoffs still a possibility. Anyone remember? Listen, the Bengals as with any team can lose close games but the difference was when these idiots came out of camp, healthy, and were not prepared to begin the season. They were not ready last season at Cleveland or this season, home to New England. Next season? Watch some more film and call it a season. Another flock of bad draft picks, maybe a couple extremely overrated free agents, same misfits doing that will be waving goodbye to Higgins, and re-signing duds like Trayveon Williams, Drew Sample, Joe Bachie, Cameron Sample, Joseph Ossai, do I need to go on, and other water boy company on the sidelines.
Jake I gotta disagree. You can lose to bad teams too. Don't take the win for granted. I don't think we should be favored in the next two games. I'm not sayin that. But winning makes believers of us all.
Pratt has fallen off .McKinley Jackson is getting better.Play Ossiah more with Jenkins.This team can beat Denver if Lou comes up with a new Scheme. But when you are on the 1 yard line.Run the dam ball no passing.Joe fumbled because of stupid call.Play Maema more.
Burrow goes to the line w/ a run and a pass play. He makes the call as to which one bc of the defense. Not Zac. Agree that Burrow needs to do better w/ ball control in the pocket, getting a tad sloppy.
Jake got a little taste of what anyone who is skeptical or criticizes this teams gets. He pushed back on James’ ludicrous position of this game being in anyway meaningful and James looks stunned. The Bengals have beaten teams with a winning percentage in the .200’s and have lost to every good team they have played. Why do we have to play make believe?
I love reading all the knee jerk reactions to sports. None of you actually know anything. Neither do these 2 bozos. Liscow says they are only opportunistic against bad teams and QBs. How about Mahomes being picked multiple times and the refs stealing the game. How about forcing an OT turnover against Lamar and the offense and ST letting them down. Was it the defense that caused the Chargers game loss? Sure, partly, but how about making FGs and scoring with this high power offense when needed the most? This is a team that definitely has been bad on defense but are clearly playing better regardless of opponent and a team that fails to finish games they should win against good and bad teams. Offense included.
I think James is in his own little world. Loved how Jake put him in his place about this Bungles team. James was like. But but but.... bkah blah blah talking points. How hard is it to watch this team and see that they are not good. The offense was horrible today besides the first drive. Burrow throws up a prayer and it works out that Sample just happened to be there makes Burrow great?? That was typical Burrow doing bonehead shit that was bailed out because the reciever happened to be there. Burrow is so overated put him on the Panthers he is trash. Put Young on the Bengals and he is an MVP. It's Chase and Higgins that make Burrow look good not the other way around.
Another horrible outing from the Oline. They’re pathetic. Another game where officials refuse to call blatant roughing the passer penalties. This is getting ridiculous.
Appreciate Jake with the realistic take
This is awesome. It’s actually James is the one defending the Bengals you can tell Jake has been a Bengals fan for too long lol but I can’t blame him for feeling this way
I wonder how the season would've turned out if the young guys on D got some run earlier in the year and also simplified the scheme like he did three weeks ago? Hubbard was a negative from week 1 and so was Bell. Lou's stubbornness this year is frustrating. Bc this D was all time bad for 3/4 of the season and he didnt change anything for most of it
Another horrible outing from the Oline. They’re pathetic. Another game where officials refuse to call blatant roughing the passer penalties. This is getting ridiculous.
Glad FOR THE WIN!!!
Bengals need a Vontes Burfect at LB right now. Secondary is playing halfway decent. Kris Jenkins is heating up. We need a linebacker that is in on every play.
Burfect? And get penalized into the next decade? No thanks.
He was nothing but trouble.
It would be an absolute malpractice to keep Zac Taylor after this season. There is ZERO reason why we’re on the outside looking in and are behind the colts and dolphins who are absolutely horrrible. Zac needed to win ONE of the one score games we had. ONE and he couldn’t do that. We need a coach who will put the team in the best position to win. Zac DOES NOT do that.
#TradeTaylor!
Change Zac to Joe and try this again. Zac didn't fumble against the Chiefs... Didn't fail on 3 RZ attempts against the Commanders, didn't throw 4th Quarter INTs against Ravens (in both games btw), didn't fumble against the Steelers... so blame Zac, sure, but be fair and blame Burrow as well.
@@stevenbalcaitis101Lmao let’s add some context here brotha.
Chiefs game, if it isn’t for a DPI on the last defensive play, we win that game! That fumble doesn’t really matter when Joe left the game we were up.
Ravens game, we miss a kick to win. Second Ravens game Burrow didn’t even throw a pick idk what you’re talking about. Def should have been better against the Steeelers
Leading to league in TDs and passing yards. You’re crazy
Zac is going nowhere! We aren’t 7-8 bc of Zac. We are 7-8 bc our defense sucks. Zac leads offense and we are one of the best in the league. Wake up and quit embarrassing your family w these stupid takes!
@@stevenbalcaitis101you can blame a historically bad defense on this season. No need to look no further
WHO-DEY!!! I'm so impressed by Chase Brown being able to handle a lot of work & still be physical & explosive!!!
Vibes are the best they’ve been all year.. Not the best position but at least we’re playing a meaningful game. Sometimes I can’t stand our fans 🤦🏾♂️
Jake is the definition of “Debbie Downer”! Every game, regardless!
Even though, I'm an OPP, I'm hoping you make the playoffs. I want to see you take down KC, BUF, or PIT and just bring chaos to the playoffs
We match up badly against the Broncos. We really need OB Jr and Mims to play. Unfortunately the Bengals get one less day of rest and the broncos played Thursday so they're coming off of a mini bye. The NFL really screwed over Cincy when they made the schedule this year. Us and the 49ers had the worst rest advantage of any team and it was by a lot
Let’s get real. The Bengals are not a playoff caliber team. They’re playing terrible teams who are actually worse than they are.
Baltimore & Pittsburgh couldn’t beat Cleveland. Quit the hating!
I don’t think it’s hating they beat the cowboys titans and browns over the past three games
They have been neck and neck with some of the best teams tho overall they should have been beating at least half of these playoff teams like chargers, Ravens, chiefs,
We can keep saying “meaningful football” and I agree with the current strategy of playing for that last wildcard spot until their chances are at 0%. However if they finish a 9-8 out of the playoffs we as a fanbase cannot provide a shred of slack to this disgrace of a front office, ownership, and coaching staff.
lol why it’s a issue when bengals win against bad teams but other teams with winning records beat bad teams and it’s not used against them 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ WHO DEYY!! Two games left man GOTTA HAVE SO GOT GET EM!!💪🏽💪🏽
We don't have a winning record
We lost to the patriots lol… and Atleast the other teams have winning records beating up on bad teams. We have a losing record while doing it which is just pathetic and much worse.
Excellent point! If we played fewer teams with winning records like the Broncos or Chargers we would be in there exact positions. The past 3 seasons we've had winning records against winning teams so now fans expect that every year. Bengals had so many different people being 1st year Bengal starters/players, they had to endure an adjustment period. Injuries didn't help but they may be hitting their stride now. At least with players being in the right place and knowing what they're doing!
These new young guys on Defense can play..The safeties are playing better.Jamar is a Beast.Always open..Ossiah needs to play more.Battle is getting better.Mckinley Jackson needs to play more
Glad FOR THE WIN!
@locked on bengals why did amarius moms slap frank pollocks hand down ?
Need pitt and houston and santa on xmas
I BLEED BLACK AND ORANGE but ZAC TAYLOR is not to blame the DEFENSE is to blame we are a team and a good organization but our defense wins games and they haven’t been there !
I'm not saying the defense is amazing now. However in seven games we needed one play, just one. Then we're a one loss team. People lose sight of that, against good teams. Do I think this defense is now capable of making one more play, absolutely. I think they beat the Broncos by at least 10.
Miami can't function in Cleveland or jersey weather. Thats not as problematic as indy at nj and then in dome vs jags.
Very worried about the Indy part of the parlay. They aren't good team but the 2 They play are really not good
Well, they haven't won 3 all year. And now Miami is also a worry...may all come down to the last snap of week 18
Bengals are not getting in playoffs il bet 1000 bucks just be a realist the odds of colts losing and bengals winning out are terrible
@@justmythoughts2786 ok. Thanks for your input.... Happy Holidays
No one cares about your thoughts Mr Sunshine!
How much cap space do we clear if we cut BJ Hill, Sam Hubbard, Sheldon Rankins & Jermaine Pratt? About 35 Million.
We can roll with McKinnley Jackson and Kris Jenkins as our starters and draft 2 more DTs again. Replace Pratt with Maema Njongmeta and draft another Linebacker for the pipeline. Add a free agent at DE and perhaps draft there as well. I don't see any reason why we can't afford Tee Higgins AND Ja'Marr Chase. We need to get rid of a fleet of Chevy Lumina's and Corsica's so we can keep our Corvette's. That 35 Million would be added to what our cap space will be after the NFL announces the new Cap. I think we are at about 6 million under now. It's projected to be 275 Million. So that takes us to 26 Million under the cap before adding 35 Million in savings from the fleet of Chevy's. So 61 Million under the cap. Tee counts 22 Million towards the cap already, so even if we give him 30 million, that takes our cap space down to 53 Million. 40 Million for Chase, we're down to 13 Million. Then Joe restructures and it goes from there. I know that's an overly simplistic look and guys cap hits differ from year to year.
The point is, we can afford to extend Tee and Ja'Marr. We can finish last in defense for a whole lot less money being allocated to it. I think we can blow some overpaid league average players out of the building and replace them for a fraction of the cost.
Hill has to stay
@@kaensteps641 He's league average. Actually, he's an unrestricted Free Agent. He's gone.
@@clementsfamily7002 I’ll definitely take Average 😂
Give it up already we ain’t making no damn playoffs
This is getting the worst case scenario. We finish 9 and 8 but we miss the playoffs. We get bad pick position and the organisation get a free pass.
If pass blocking is so poor with our OL, why not run Chase Brown more?
Remember people it’s a GAME
Burrow has played great but you can also criticize the fumbles. I never remember him fumbling this much and he’s had worse o lines than this and had to create a lot. It’s sort of an issue
The Defense was porous as usual and more missed tackles.
Yes they are
Why did they try to pass on the 1 year line.And Joe fumbled the ball.Run Chase Brown..
To be fair here, they ran Chase Brown on 1st and goal at the 3 for two yards. And 2nd and goal at the 1 for no gain. And the first two plays of the drive. It's not like they're not running him. I have no problem with the call there. If they run Brown again and he doesn't get in then people criticize the predictable play calling. But anything other than Brown that doesn't work and...people criticize the play calling as being too cute or too soft.
Who Dey
This is looking a bit like last season when Burrow was injured and the Pittsburgh game came up (at Pittsburgh) on the schedule with the playoffs still a possibility. Anyone remember? Listen, the Bengals as with any team can lose close games but the difference was when these idiots came out of camp, healthy, and were not prepared to begin the season. They were not ready last season at Cleveland or this season, home to New England. Next season? Watch some more film and call it a season. Another flock of bad draft picks, maybe a couple extremely overrated free agents, same misfits doing that will be waving goodbye to Higgins, and re-signing duds like Trayveon Williams, Drew Sample, Joe Bachie, Cameron Sample, Joseph Ossai, do I need to go on, and other water boy company on the sidelines.
We need Cleveland to win at home next week against Miami at home next week I got Cleveland winning at home next week
Jake I gotta disagree. You can lose to bad teams too. Don't take the win for granted. I don't think we should be favored in the next two games. I'm not sayin that. But winning makes believers of us all.
Pratt has fallen off .McKinley Jackson is getting better.Play Ossiah more with Jenkins.This team can beat Denver if Lou comes up with a new Scheme. But when you are on the 1 yard line.Run the dam ball no passing.Joe fumbled because of stupid call.Play Maema more.
Burrow goes to the line w/ a run and a pass play. He makes the call as to which one bc of the defense. Not Zac. Agree that Burrow needs to do better w/ ball control in the pocket, getting a tad sloppy.
Have they gotten better? We will know Saturday.
Pratt is a cancer at LB he's slow asf & miss easy tackles, clearly Logan Wilson was carrying his bum ass
Just wanted to say this Mike Hilton NEED TO STAY HERE PERIOD!!!
I really think if Bengals make the playoffs the defense will get embarrassed and the oline will get Joe killed!
Bengals are a bad team that beats up on bad teams and obviously can't beat good teams.
Jake got a little taste of what anyone who is skeptical or criticizes this teams gets. He pushed back on James’ ludicrous position of this game being in anyway meaningful and James looks stunned. The Bengals have beaten teams with a winning percentage in the .200’s and have lost to every good team they have played. Why do we have to play make believe?
Getting RID OF Mike Hilton WILL Be STUPID, LIKE Getting RID OF Jessie BATES WAS AND DJ READER!!!
BAD thing is about this team playing against ROOKIE QB PERIOD!And that will be DENVER COMING TO TOWN!
I love reading all the knee jerk reactions to sports. None of you actually know anything. Neither do these 2 bozos. Liscow says they are only opportunistic against bad teams and QBs. How about Mahomes being picked multiple times and the refs stealing the game. How about forcing an OT turnover against Lamar and the offense and ST letting them down. Was it the defense that caused the Chargers game loss? Sure, partly, but how about making FGs and scoring with this high power offense when needed the most? This is a team that definitely has been bad on defense but are clearly playing better regardless of opponent and a team that fails to finish games they should win against good and bad teams. Offense included.
Get him james
I like Jake but always a downer lol always always.. coal for this guy lol jk. Maybe 😊
Jake just keeps it 💯
I think James is in his own little world. Loved how Jake put him in his place about this Bungles team. James was like. But but but.... bkah blah blah talking points. How hard is it to watch this team and see that they are not good. The offense was horrible today besides the first drive. Burrow throws up a prayer and it works out that Sample just happened to be there makes Burrow great?? That was typical Burrow doing bonehead shit that was bailed out because the reciever happened to be there. Burrow is so overated put him on the Panthers he is trash. Put Young on the Bengals and he is an MVP. It's Chase and Higgins that make Burrow look good not the other way around.
Good enough to beat Bo Nix
Another horrible outing from the Oline. They’re pathetic. Another game where officials refuse to call blatant roughing the passer penalties. This is getting ridiculous.
And holding where the D-line are rasing their arms showing the damn ref, but no holding flags... Makes me sick