This is something every European city could easily adapt but London does "quiet ways" or "super cycle highways" and my home town Berlin has a lot of poorly maintained paths or really good paths that abruptly end on cobblestone roads or a field after 300m... I guess someday I will just move to the Netherlands...
I really appreciate this video, you see how well the portion presented in the other video is well integrated into the wider city. You really nailed it with this dual format of videos.
@@WhyMe4040 I could imagine. Yellow bike lanes are not common in the Netherlands and as you put it, many people assume its just a sidewalk. Can't blame them. Its a weird.
@@WhyMe4040 Even in this video there are so many people just walking onto it without looking haha. Still way better for people who live in the city i assume.
I wish the motorized scooters were banned from bicycle paths. It seems a bit selfish making everyone else listen to the noise and worry about being knocked off your bicycle because there heavy and faster. I noticed this problem more in Rotterdam than in other Dutch cities.
Its a problem vehicle. If the person was going to drive a car instead of drive a scooter, then its better they’re on the scooter. Banning them and making them go with the cars would likely make some of them drive cars. And if they did just scooter on the road then it would be more dangerous for them too. But you’re right, they look a massive pain in the bike path.
When I lived in Toronto I never had a problem with motorscooters on the bicycle path, because in Ontario they must be electric and are limited a very low power output, and to 30 km/h. Allowing them on paths increases the range of people using the bicycle paths, which makes it politically easier to use high standards when designing new paths (wider and with higher design speeds). But since moving to the Netherlands I have become very frustrated with motorscooters, because they go well over 30 km/h and spit fumes in my face, which feels like it's punishing me for choosing a zero-emissions form of transportation. My suggestion would be that the Netherlands should copy Ontario (crazy, I know), and ban the sale of internal-combustion "blue-plate" (25 km/h) scooters, and ban "yellow-plate" (45 km/h) scooters from bike paths. The yellow-plate scooters are a problematic category in general because they are way too fast for bicycle paths, but still too slow for the main carriageway, particularly outside urban areas. A higher top speed (80 km/h?) should be permitted for yellow-plate scooters, so they can properly ride on the main carriageway like they do in Ontario.
@@OntarioTrafficMan That 45 speed limit never made any sense to me as a Dutchman either. Not even when I was 16. I just never saw the appeal. It's mostly for lazy people and I'm convinced once they're banned most of these people will simply switch over to cycling. I live in SE Asia now and drive a 125 cc motorscooter. In town I do maximum 40 but on bigger roads it's just great to have power to go faster and keep up with cars. Holland should have the exact same category and every time I visit I just wished I had my scooter with me. It's just so convenient. And it does 45 km on a liter of petrol so it's very economical too. Yet still small enough to just park it basically anywhere you like. Going 25 on petrol is just insane. I am all for making these things electric. But that actually already exists in the form of pedelecs or electric bicycles so they really could just ban the sale of this category of motorscooters.
Thank you for posting this! I lived in one of the apartments at 2:50 for 3-1/2 years before moving to Leiden. Construction for the Coolsingel project occurred outside (or near) my window for a lot of that time. I've been eager to see how it turned out, but because of travel restrictions I haven't been back for a few months. So thanks again!
I would *LOVE* to have these in American cities; they're gorgeous, they're friendlier, there's less traffic, they're super accommodating to other forms of transportation, and there's space for trees so people don't roast like a chicken during summer months.
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happy that you did that segment! When I left Rotterdam, I saw the plan and I could not come back yet to see it. I would have kept the one direction bike lane on the other side of the street, the traffic was already a capacity on rush hours so i guess that it will still be quite be busy. On that street, there is so much attention to be given to all the pedestrians that are crossing the bike path. So, it is good to have more distance with the cars to keep the focus :P
Was that a C&A shop I spotted? Years since I've seen one of those (they left the UK decades ago). What was slightly odd about seeing this new infrastructure was the colour. Considering in the UK cycle paths, where they exist, seem to be a random colour (mostly shades of grey with the occasional green, blue or red ones) I think it shows I've watched so many of these videos I'm getting used to Dutch infrastructure that I'll probably never see or use in the flesh!
To be honest I have no idea why it has the color it has. Seeing some of the footpaths are also a shade of yellow it seems like a very poor choice. Probably some designer trying to be 'artistic'. I do know people from Rotterdam see themselves as a bit superior and I say that as someone who was born there and lived their my entire life. So things in the city always need to be a bit 'special' compared to other places in the Netherlands. I've seen several occasions where Rotterdammers pretend to have come up with something, while when you look it up online, it actually originated somewhere completely different. It's not a bad city or bad people or anything, but Rotterdammers are occasionally quite full of themselves when it comes to the city.
@@donder91 Maybe they are colour blind? That said, I remember a yellowish cycle path somewhere in a nature reserve? Markelei did a video on that too. Found it, and it was Rotterdam too th-cam.com/video/hXfgoEuXNlI/w-d-xo.html
behind city hall theres a church (between city hall and markthal) with a big iron door ... the depiction on that door is quite interesting, you ought to take a gander some time, also not so fun fact; both city hall as that church still contain firedamage from the ww2 bombings, they are among the few pre-war buildings in that area
Definitely one of the best places in the world, Can you make a comparison video of before and after bicycle revolution, If you have the old footage, that would be really great
It looks so much better than before, but God I hate those scooters (especially the electric ones) . People riding them pass you very closely and with a lot of speed, you’re caught off guard
@@edipires15 I haven't experienced many electric scooters yet in a city environment, but I have identified that as a new thing to be aware of with eletric cars moving out of parking spots onto the road. In the past you could count on cars having a noticeable sound profile, no longer strictly guaranteed now. Some battery electric car manufacturers have been adding synthetic sound when driving below a certain speed and in reverse. Maybe a not very annoying sound that does notify other road users could be implemented (but it'd have to be a legal requirement somehow). For now I'm personally still more bothered by the traditional ones, something about their engines seems to throw out some bad smells. Not sure what is going on in there but they either don't burn all the fuel or do something else weird, one tiny scooter stinks more than a large car. Typically not a big deal when you're both moving but a real nuisance near open bridges etc when you spend a while downwind of them. Ideally that should mostly convert to electrical ones if you'd ask me, but if they are going to become more prevalent then some legally required sound profile would be a good idea.
Would be even nicer if there was more green. But it's still a HUGE improvement on what it was back in the day. Drove there quite often and iut was just a complete nightmare, with car and/or bicycle. Now at least the bicycle ride looks a lot more fun ;) Though still a lot of associal people...
Great to see my birth town again after migrating away. I haven't been able to visit for quite some time for obvious reasons. I wonder why there are so many skid marks on this new cycle path. Too many people in a hurry today causing many emergency breaks perhaps?
Al these reactions are clearly not from the locals. It’s confusing, unclear and at some places even very dangerous! You have 4 lawns with 2 way direction next to each other. This is definitely designed by someone diagnosed with ADHD! 70% is laid with beautiful tiles and than it stops out of the bleu it bungles further in cheap as ugly tiles. I think a lot of the materials ended in the gardens from the construction workers. I do like the color of the bike cycle pad en that there is definitely more green.
how do you record these videos? which equipment to stabilize the images? Where do you keep the camera attached to the bike? It's beautiful pictures, congratulations
Great video. Rotteram's sidewalks seem to be very wide. Anyone know why? Maybe they need those setbacks to allow in more light with their taller buildings. All that space makes it look less busy even though there's a lot of people out.
Seeing the pedestrians, it looks like they are not used to it yet, or think they are still in the walking area: maybe red asphalt would make them more realize the bike path is there. Lived several years in Rotterdam (now Utrecht) and I think Rotterdam has some work to do in erasing the car-centered layout, but good to see they are working on that.
No those are just called assholes. A certain kind of breed in the netherlands. Edit: some people realy don’t care. They will always be around bothering others
@@gentlebabarian Calling people assholes is legit if they would do things knowing it's not meant to be. What I see is pedestrians trying to cross a bike lane that is designed as a highspeed connection without places designated to do so, making it almost imposable (woman with child near tram) and in another place (the almost hit, beurs) a place where you really expect a place to cross as a pedestrian, but no marker: so bikers think [know?] they don't need to stop.
I might've missed it, but honestly I didn't see any significant cyclist/pedestrian conflicts in the video. It's somewhat accepted that some degree of adjusting your path for another is acceptable.
@@dykam Sure, adapting is part of traffic (and life ;) ), but would help if infra is clear for all. at 4:18 the lady with buggy/child is confused going back to the pedestrian part at 4:45 the couple with a child (almost) completely missed oncoming cam at 5:03: where the guy with ladder supposed to cross? And keep in mind, it's still relatively quiet on the streets, when all restrictions are lifted it will be much busier [bikes/pedestrians]. I'm all for making bike paths, but to make an area people-oriented, it's not just bikes that need to get from A to B, and I'm kind of missing that for pedestrians in this new infra. It sort of went from car/bike to bike/car-oriented, while it's a road going through a (pedestrian) shopping area (Lijnbaan)
@@tom.jacobs The lady with buggy simply backed up and waited for the bike to pass because she didn't think she would make it safely without speeding up a bit. The couple just don't care, TWO bikes crossed right in front of them right before the camera got to them, there are people like this all over, doesn't matter if the path is red or yellow they just ignore it. The guy with the ladder was exactly where he needed to cross, he knew that. Like what is mentioned in the other video the work here isn't quite done yet. They may or may not put zebra crossings on the bike paths, but you can tell where the crossings are by looking for the tiles for the visually impaired.
Dang, this is neat. Everyone has their fair share of the room provided by the large boulevard. Pedestrians can walk at peace, although sometimes, they still seem a bit invasive to the tracks that should be granted to cyclists exclusively. Bah, they're casual and harmless anyway. It's up to us cyclists to be careful and deal with them. Also, people riding scooters/small motorcycles like at 0:20 and several times later on should not use these tracks. Again, they are meant for cyclists and what they call "trottinettes" here. You've got your fine trams in their segregated lanes, which is perfect... Not too much traffic. Apparently, shrinking lanes dedicated to cars effectively deters people from using cars. I'm in Paris and they've been working on this kind of better urban planning too. We're not as good as the Dutch or the Danes yet, but hopefully we catch up on them. I'm excited about this.
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet. They are quite annoying
I wish the uk , particularly my area of Telford, a new Town in the would wake up and adopt cycling How do you change peoples opinion ? When the excuses, you can’t shop, it’s too hilly, you need a car etc Even the 2 main cycling charities focus on ‘road’ safety for cyclists rather than real infrastructure I find it so frustrating and upsetting It’s not always easy but I can survive without a car, even with my disability
You should invest in a wind screen for your camera. Sometimes it's important to hear the how silent the streets really is, rather than having just wind blasting in your ears.
Is it legal in the Netherlands to use motorbikes on bike paths and bike lanes? Here in Hungary it's illegal, yet they do it, and it's annoying to breath in their exhaust gases.
They are for over a year now thanks to businesses like Check, Felyx, GoSharing and many others. It's been a blessing for all cyclists and enjoyers in town.
@@TheAnoniemo That, and the shared mopeds get parked very interestingly (in bushes, on the road, on the sidewalk). They even have anti-tampering sensors, and start beeping if you move them out of the way (when parked in such a way that the sidewalk is no longer useable). Fuck those electric scooters.
I was today years old when I found out (light) mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. Quick research says they are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet.
The scooters man, they seem to be quite a nuisance in the video with their loud internal combustion engines, is it just the microphone or are they a nuisance in real life as well?
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet. They are quite annoying yes. Electric ones are even worse because you don't hear them coming.
@@dahemper maybe y'all should require folks that need to use them wear a sign (like if you can't physically cycle) and then start collectively heckling/shaming folks who do it out of choice and not out of necessity, it's very inconsiderate of such people to keep on using them.
@@qqnqqpart pretty much all people who use them are young people that dont have a car yet and are too lazy to cycle. they are the worst. one tried to knock me off of my bicycle some time ago but luckily I didn't fall.
@@rosannaberckley5515 they seem to be very real dangers to your safety, you oughtta organize, I think I had seen one of Mark's videos from a long time ago that hilighted a protest against the mopeds/scooters, wishing you all the safest experience possible! In places where there's no infra & rules and hence abysmal potential for safety, one can't complain much; but you folks have it seemingly all set, except for these scooters! All the more reason to take care of that one last bit!
It was determined to be more stylish. Mark describes it a little in the related blog post with links to Twitter discussion about it: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2021/05/19/rotterdam-takes-an-important-step-towards-becoming-a-cycle-friendly-city/
This is wonderful. However, there is one negative. The scooters. The more their numbers increase, the more the danger will grow. I can’t understand why you allow them in cycle lanes.
I believe that was exactly the purpose: reducing traffic from 2 double lanes to 2 single lanes. A lot of the traffic used the Coolsingel to reach other destinations. Now with the reduced lanes, most of these will go elsewhere when they realize using the Coolsingel instead of other routes is not worth it.
Rotterdam missed a chance, by building such narrow bike lane ( compared tot Utrecht ) + why are the scooters in the bike lane - shouldn't they be in the same lane as the cars ?
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet. They are quite annoying.
This is an unusually wide road by any standards. Has one direction of car traffic been removed to widen the cycle path? They will presumably be adding to the traffic in another street, increasing the noise and pollution there.
Yes, you can see more context in Mark's related video (th-cam.com/video/FXuI--ERWs4/w-d-xo.html) or in his related blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2021/05/19/rotterdam-takes-an-important-step-towards-becoming-a-cycle-friendly-city/
UK Cycle paths are terrible, full of holes, and non-continuous. This cycle path is actually nice to cycle on, so people use it. Look at POV's of people cycling in London, and tell me I'm wrong.
@@nanderv Kingston-upon-Thames has recently spent millions on cycle paths (despite pleading poverty) and narrowed one (among many) particular busy four lane road down to two and installed a beautiful, wide, well surfaced, continuous, two-way cycle lane (even over side road junctions with cyclists having 'right-of-way'). I know how good the cycle lane is because I recently had plenty of time to observe it as I followed a cyclist along the road adjacent at 10mph, being unable to overtake because of oncoming traffic. Still, I have at least had the 'consolation' of having my council tax increased by around 5% to try and plug the council's financial shortfall. So now, traffic is almost at a standstill and engine emissions have increased due to everyone having to use lower gears. But at least the councillors can flaunt their green credentials.
This is something every European city could easily adapt but London does "quiet ways" or "super cycle highways" and my home town Berlin has a lot of poorly maintained paths or really good paths that abruptly end on cobblestone roads or a field after 300m...
I guess someday I will just move to the Netherlands...
The quiet ways are so pointless lol the London council got lazy after the super cycle things
@@irrelevance3859 Yeah, but at least they do something... Obviously it's pretty far from what Dutch cities do.
I really appreciate this video, you see how well the portion presented in the other video is well integrated into the wider city. You really nailed it with this dual format of videos.
My hometown! I walked here last week as well, it finally looks nice again.
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@@CasperGamess Met het nieuwe natuursteen is het een hele verbetering. Ben ook blij dat je niet meer op de autoweg hoeft te fietsen.
The beige bike paths remind me of Brussels. Visually pleasing color, but I'm not sure it's good for infrastructure consistency.
I like red coloured bike paths more. I don't know why Rotterdam decided it was a good idea to use yellow.
@@WhyMe4040 I could imagine. Yellow bike lanes are not common in the Netherlands and as you put it, many people assume its just a sidewalk. Can't blame them. Its a weird.
@@WhyMe4040 Even in this video there are so many people just walking onto it without looking haha.
Still way better for people who live in the city i assume.
I wish the motorized scooters were banned from bicycle paths. It seems a bit selfish making everyone else listen to the noise and worry about being knocked off your bicycle because there heavy and faster. I noticed this problem more in Rotterdam than in other Dutch cities.
Its a problem vehicle. If the person was going to drive a car instead of drive a scooter, then its better they’re on the scooter. Banning them and making them go with the cars would likely make some of them drive cars. And if they did just scooter on the road then it would be more dangerous for them too. But you’re right, they look a massive pain in the bike path.
When I lived in Toronto I never had a problem with motorscooters on the bicycle path, because in Ontario they must be electric and are limited a very low power output, and to 30 km/h. Allowing them on paths increases the range of people using the bicycle paths, which makes it politically easier to use high standards when designing new paths (wider and with higher design speeds). But since moving to the Netherlands I have become very frustrated with motorscooters, because they go well over 30 km/h and spit fumes in my face, which feels like it's punishing me for choosing a zero-emissions form of transportation.
My suggestion would be that the Netherlands should copy Ontario (crazy, I know), and ban the sale of internal-combustion "blue-plate" (25 km/h) scooters, and ban "yellow-plate" (45 km/h) scooters from bike paths. The yellow-plate scooters are a problematic category in general because they are way too fast for bicycle paths, but still too slow for the main carriageway, particularly outside urban areas. A higher top speed (80 km/h?) should be permitted for yellow-plate scooters, so they can properly ride on the main carriageway like they do in Ontario.
@@OntarioTrafficMan That 45 speed limit never made any sense to me as a Dutchman either. Not even when I was 16. I just never saw the appeal. It's mostly for lazy people and I'm convinced once they're banned most of these people will simply switch over to cycling.
I live in SE Asia now and drive a 125 cc motorscooter. In town I do maximum 40 but on bigger roads it's just great to have power to go faster and keep up with cars. Holland should have the exact same category and every time I visit I just wished I had my scooter with me. It's just so convenient. And it does 45 km on a liter of petrol so it's very economical too. Yet still small enough to just park it basically anywhere you like.
Going 25 on petrol is just insane. I am all for making these things electric. But that actually already exists in the form of pedelecs or electric bicycles so they really could just ban the sale of this category of motorscooters.
I really hope they disappear very soon. Also here in Copenhagen they are a pain in the ears and nose. In the winter time they smell discusting.
Ban the scooters. If they can't pedal, or simply don't want to pedal, they can switch to electric bikes.
Cool bike road! Soooo wide 👍. Top bicycle city level 👏. Greetz from Poland!
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The level of marking on the cycle path already suggests the surface isn’t working as intended! Otherwise massive improvement
Yeah, While I like the color for this particular area, the markings really ruin it.
What do you mean with marking?
@@aeiouaeiou100 All the tirethreads, those don't happen on the typical red bikepaths, at least they are nowhere near as visible.
@@Arjay404 less to do with colour and more to do with it being Zoab, also /care I get why they went for yellow there
@@arposkraft3616 Red is not as comforting as green or yellow
Bedankt, leuk om weer eens de Coolsingel te zien. Ben al jaren niet meer in de binnenstad geweest.
Thank you for posting this! I lived in one of the apartments at 2:50 for 3-1/2 years before moving to Leiden. Construction for the Coolsingel project occurred outside (or near) my window for a lot of that time. I've been eager to see how it turned out, but because of travel restrictions I haven't been back for a few months. So thanks again!
I would *LOVE* to have these in American cities; they're gorgeous, they're friendlier, there's less traffic,
they're super accommodating to other forms of transportation, and there's space for trees so people don't
roast like a chicken during summer months.
happy that you did that segment! When I left Rotterdam, I saw the plan and I could not come back yet to see it.
I would have kept the one direction bike lane on the other side of the street, the traffic was already a capacity on rush hours so i guess that it will still be quite be busy.
On that street, there is so much attention to be given to all the pedestrians that are crossing the bike path. So, it is good to have more distance with the cars to keep the focus :P
Was that a C&A shop I spotted? Years since I've seen one of those (they left the UK decades ago).
What was slightly odd about seeing this new infrastructure was the colour. Considering in the UK cycle paths, where they exist, seem to be a random colour (mostly shades of grey with the occasional green, blue or red ones) I think it shows I've watched so many of these videos I'm getting used to Dutch infrastructure that I'll probably never see or use in the flesh!
To be honest I have no idea why it has the color it has. Seeing some of the footpaths are also a shade of yellow it seems like a very poor choice.
Probably some designer trying to be 'artistic'.
I do know people from Rotterdam see themselves as a bit superior and I say that as someone who was born there and lived their my entire life. So things in the city always need to be a bit 'special' compared to other places in the Netherlands.
I've seen several occasions where Rotterdammers pretend to have come up with something, while when you look it up online, it actually originated somewhere completely different.
It's not a bad city or bad people or anything, but Rotterdammers are occasionally quite full of themselves when it comes to the city.
@@donder91 Maybe they are colour blind? That said, I remember a yellowish cycle path somewhere in a nature reserve? Markelei did a video on that too. Found it, and it was Rotterdam too th-cam.com/video/hXfgoEuXNlI/w-d-xo.html
@@donder91 So sour and sad.
You must be 15 year of age.
Or probably from Amsterdam .....
@@jsb7975 I'm from Rotterdam so I know what I'm talking about. Also 30 years old
Yep, that's a C&A. :) It's next to the area officially named "Beurstraverse", but that everyone calls the "shopping gutter" (Koopgoot).
behind city hall theres a church (between city hall and markthal) with a big iron door ... the depiction on that door is quite interesting, you ought to take a gander some time, also not so fun fact; both city hall as that church still contain firedamage from the ww2 bombings, they are among the few pre-war buildings in that area
A model of how contemporary cities should be organised.
Long live civilisation.
Definitely one of the best places in the world,
Can you make a comparison video of before and after bicycle revolution, If you have the old footage, that would be really great
It looks so much better than before, but God I hate those scooters (especially the electric ones) . People riding them pass you very closely and with a lot of speed, you’re caught off guard
why the electric ones? I hate the regular ones. I love the electrics.
@@Huskie because the regulars ones make noise, that lets you know know they’re coming and you can get out of the way
@@edipires15 I haven't experienced many electric scooters yet in a city environment, but I have identified that as a new thing to be aware of with eletric cars moving out of parking spots onto the road. In the past you could count on cars having a noticeable sound profile, no longer strictly guaranteed now. Some battery electric car manufacturers have been adding synthetic sound when driving below a certain speed and in reverse. Maybe a not very annoying sound that does notify other road users could be implemented (but it'd have to be a legal requirement somehow).
For now I'm personally still more bothered by the traditional ones, something about their engines seems to throw out some bad smells. Not sure what is going on in there but they either don't burn all the fuel or do something else weird, one tiny scooter stinks more than a large car. Typically not a big deal when you're both moving but a real nuisance near open bridges etc when you spend a while downwind of them.
Ideally that should mostly convert to electrical ones if you'd ask me, but if they are going to become more prevalent then some legally required sound profile would be a good idea.
En straks ook het stadspark bij de fontein. Ben erg benieuwd hoe het wordt.
Would be even nicer if there was more green. But it's still a HUGE improvement on what it was back in the day. Drove there quite often and iut was just a complete nightmare, with car and/or bicycle. Now at least the bicycle ride looks a lot more fun ;) Though still a lot of associal people...
Great to see my birth town again after migrating away. I haven't been able to visit for quite some time for obvious reasons.
I wonder why there are so many skid marks on this new cycle path. Too many people in a hurry today causing many emergency breaks perhaps?
braking for pedestrians crossing suddenly, probably
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4:04 you know you're in the Netherlands when the person in front of you starts riding with free hands for about a minute
you think that is impressive? lol normally when riding to school i had my hands in my pockets because it's always cold xD
@@dr.joint4204 I didn't mean impressive, I meant unmistakably Dutch. 10/10 channel is as advertised :P
@@matt-66 hahahaha yup, it's indeed a dutchie thing XD
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Al these reactions are clearly not from the locals. It’s confusing, unclear and at some places even very dangerous!
You have 4 lawns with 2 way direction next to each other. This is definitely designed by someone diagnosed with ADHD!
70% is laid with beautiful tiles and than it stops out of the bleu it bungles further in cheap as ugly tiles. I think a lot of the materials ended in the gardens from the construction workers.
I do like the color of the bike cycle pad en that there is definitely more green.
I am surprised it is not the usual red bicycle path.
@@Eelis0 You know how marketing guys are. Neither good on usability nor on engineering of material...
The cycleways is remarkables. 🚲
how do you record these videos? which equipment to stabilize the images? Where do you keep the camera attached to the bike?
It's beautiful pictures, congratulations
Great video. Rotteram's sidewalks seem to be very wide. Anyone know why? Maybe they need those setbacks to allow in more light with their taller buildings. All that space makes it look less busy even though there's a lot of people out.
The center was bombed in world war 2. So during 1950-1980 they rebuilt it for the car, like most American cities.
5:54 Is this another one of those 'which way is faster' signals?
yes it is.
Coolsingel must have a lot of cool singles.
The wide area of the entire roads area between buildings is still unsettling though.
It's a major boulevard. I think it's quite nice to have a few streets like this. City hall is on this street as well.
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De dubbele rooilijn aan de westkant van de Coolsingel komt veel beter tot zijn recht als er niet twee rijstroken naast liggen.
The Netherlands has the most aesthetic streets in the world
There are a lot of mopeds, and I do wonder about their safety around small children on bikes.
What camera did you use for this video? Great quality.
Seeing the pedestrians, it looks like they are not used to it yet, or think they are still in the walking area: maybe red asphalt would make them more realize the bike path is there.
Lived several years in Rotterdam (now Utrecht) and I think Rotterdam has some work to do in erasing the car-centered layout, but good to see they are working on that.
No those are just called assholes. A certain kind of breed in the netherlands.
Edit: some people realy don’t care. They will always be around bothering others
@@gentlebabarian Calling people assholes is legit if they would do things knowing it's not meant to be. What I see is pedestrians trying to cross a bike lane that is designed as a highspeed connection without places designated to do so, making it almost imposable (woman with child near tram) and in another place (the almost hit, beurs) a place where you really expect a place to cross as a pedestrian, but no marker: so bikers think [know?] they don't need to stop.
I might've missed it, but honestly I didn't see any significant cyclist/pedestrian conflicts in the video. It's somewhat accepted that some degree of adjusting your path for another is acceptable.
@@dykam Sure, adapting is part of traffic (and life ;) ), but would help if infra is clear for all.
at 4:18 the lady with buggy/child is confused going back to the pedestrian part
at 4:45 the couple with a child (almost) completely missed oncoming cam
at 5:03: where the guy with ladder supposed to cross?
And keep in mind, it's still relatively quiet on the streets, when all restrictions are lifted it will be much busier [bikes/pedestrians].
I'm all for making bike paths, but to make an area people-oriented, it's not just bikes that need to get from A to B, and I'm kind of missing that for pedestrians in this new infra. It sort of went from car/bike to bike/car-oriented, while it's a road going through a (pedestrian) shopping area (Lijnbaan)
@@tom.jacobs The lady with buggy simply backed up and waited for the bike to pass because she didn't think she would make it safely without speeding up a bit. The couple just don't care, TWO bikes crossed right in front of them right before the camera got to them, there are people like this all over, doesn't matter if the path is red or yellow they just ignore it. The guy with the ladder was exactly where he needed to cross, he knew that. Like what is mentioned in the other video the work here isn't quite done yet. They may or may not put zebra crossings on the bike paths, but you can tell where the crossings are by looking for the tiles for the visually impaired.
Dang, this is neat. Everyone has their fair share of the room provided by the large boulevard.
Pedestrians can walk at peace, although sometimes, they still seem a bit invasive to the tracks that should be granted to cyclists exclusively. Bah, they're casual and harmless anyway. It's up to us cyclists to be careful and deal with them.
Also, people riding scooters/small motorcycles like at 0:20 and several times later on should not use these tracks. Again, they are meant for cyclists and what they call "trottinettes" here.
You've got your fine trams in their segregated lanes, which is perfect... Not too much traffic. Apparently, shrinking lanes dedicated to cars effectively deters people from using cars.
I'm in Paris and they've been working on this kind of better urban planning too. We're not as good as the Dutch or the Danes yet, but hopefully we catch up on them. I'm excited about this.
Now that electric bikes are widely available, there is no excuse for allowing scooters on bike paths, especially the gasoline-powered ones.
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet. They are quite annoying
I wish the uk , particularly my area of Telford, a new Town in the would wake up and adopt cycling
How do you change peoples opinion ?
When the excuses, you can’t shop, it’s too hilly, you need a car etc
Even the 2 main cycling charities focus on ‘road’ safety for cyclists rather than real infrastructure
I find it so frustrating and upsetting
It’s not always easy but I can survive without a car, even with my disability
You should invest in a wind screen for your camera. Sometimes it's important to hear the how silent the streets really is, rather than having just wind blasting in your ears.
Now you can really see how WIDE this street is xD
This city is probably so much quieter than American cities without all of the cars!!!!
Is it legal in the Netherlands to use motorbikes on bike paths and bike lanes? Here in Hungary it's illegal, yet they do it, and it's annoying to breath in their exhaust gases.
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet.
One of the few countries in the world (and maybe one such), where the people are all right with their heads.
I wish we had this cycle lanes in germany.
Good to see (and hear) that electric mopeds have finally arrived in the Netherlands.
Had the same thought. Two-stroke engine noise is so annoying.
They are for over a year now thanks to businesses like Check, Felyx, GoSharing and many others. It's been a blessing for all cyclists and enjoyers in town.
They´ve been here for quite a while.
Only downside is you don't hear idiots driving waaay to fast on bicycle lanes or intersections coming anymore, so I expect to see more collisions.
@@TheAnoniemo That, and the shared mopeds get parked very interestingly (in bushes, on the road, on the sidewalk). They even have anti-tampering sensors, and start beeping if you move them out of the way (when parked in such a way that the sidewalk is no longer useable). Fuck those electric scooters.
Now that's how a dutch city is supposed to look like!
I was today years old when I found out (light) mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. Quick research says they are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet.
If you would like to see what a bicycle ride in Copenhagen may look like, take a look at my most recent video :)
nice
The motorbikes would piss me off!
The scooters man, they seem to be quite a nuisance in the video with their loud internal combustion engines, is it just the microphone or are they a nuisance in real life as well?
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet. They are quite annoying yes. Electric ones are even worse because you don't hear them coming.
@@dahemper maybe y'all should require folks that need to use them wear a sign (like if you can't physically cycle) and then start collectively heckling/shaming folks who do it out of choice and not out of necessity, it's very inconsiderate of such people to keep on using them.
@@qqnqqpart pretty much all people who use them are young people that dont have a car yet and are too lazy to cycle. they are the worst. one tried to knock me off of my bicycle some time ago but luckily I didn't fall.
@@rosannaberckley5515 they seem to be very real dangers to your safety, you oughtta organize, I think I had seen one of Mark's videos from a long time ago that hilighted a protest against the mopeds/scooters, wishing you all the safest experience possible! In places where there's no infra & rules and hence abysmal potential for safety, one can't complain much; but you folks have it seemingly all set, except for these scooters! All the more reason to take care of that one last bit!
When did you film it
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I want such a street in my country too but unfortunately our people and council are addicted to cars
It surprise me to see people riding motorbikes on a cycle path and without helmet
Cool :-)
So many skid marks?
This looks amazing :P
Anyone has any idea why they made it yellow?
It was determined to be more stylish. Mark describes it a little in the related blog post with links to Twitter discussion about it:
bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2021/05/19/rotterdam-takes-an-important-step-towards-becoming-a-cycle-friendly-city/
This is wonderful. However, there is one negative. The scooters. The more their numbers increase, the more the danger will grow. I can’t understand why you allow them in cycle lanes.
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet.
Binnenkort toch maar weer eens naar de stad toe. Door corona al meer dan een jaar niet meer in het centrum geweest.
Moet je zeker doen! Het is eindelijk weer eens een beetje gezellig daar, en de terrassen zitten weer eens vol. :)
What will safe the planet? I tell you: less of everything. Except: bicycles and bicycle lanes! 😃
Heel cool💯👍🏻
HAD TO DO IT: At 2:30 in the video at the crossing with Westblaak you only have to continue in a straight line for 8930 km to Pretoria South Africa.
Hello
Rotterdam is so crowded. Yikes!
You have to clear your glasses, crowded pfffff
Its a city duh!.
You want to see crowded just check out traffic in Lagos Nigeria.
Rotterdam metropole area is one of the most densely populated area's in Europe.
Lots of foreigners too
I think it is too narrow for so much traffic and the two directional flow.
I believe that was exactly the purpose: reducing traffic from 2 double lanes to 2 single lanes. A lot of the traffic used the Coolsingel to reach other destinations. Now with the reduced lanes, most of these will go elsewhere when they realize using the Coolsingel instead of other routes is not worth it.
@@caribboy i think (s)he is hinting on the bike road?
@@tom.jacobs You are right, could sure be.
Rotterdam missed a chance, by building such narrow bike lane ( compared tot Utrecht ) + why are the scooters in the bike lane - shouldn't they be in the same lane as the cars ?
A special class of light mopeds can be driven on cycle paths. They are known as 'Snorfiets' with max speed of 25km/h and without need to wear helmet. They are quite annoying.
tbh once you're on it it doesn't feel that narrow
This is an unusually wide road by any standards. Has one direction of car traffic been removed to widen the cycle path? They will presumably be adding to the traffic in another street, increasing the noise and pollution there.
Yes, you can see more context in Mark's related video (th-cam.com/video/FXuI--ERWs4/w-d-xo.html) or in his related blog post: bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2021/05/19/rotterdam-takes-an-important-step-towards-becoming-a-cycle-friendly-city/
What a novel idea. Cyclist actually using cycle paths and stopping at red lights. UK cyclists would NEVER be able to cope with this concept.
UK Cycle paths are terrible, full of holes, and non-continuous. This cycle path is actually nice to cycle on, so people use it. Look at POV's of people cycling in London, and tell me I'm wrong.
@@nanderv Kingston-upon-Thames has recently spent millions on cycle paths (despite pleading poverty) and narrowed one (among many) particular busy four lane road down to two and installed a beautiful, wide, well surfaced, continuous, two-way cycle lane (even over side road junctions with cyclists having 'right-of-way'). I know how good the cycle lane is because I recently had plenty of time to observe it as I followed a cyclist along the road adjacent at 10mph, being unable to overtake because of oncoming traffic. Still, I have at least had the 'consolation' of having my council tax increased by around 5% to try and plug the council's financial shortfall. So now, traffic is almost at a standstill and engine emissions have increased due to everyone having to use lower gears. But at least the councillors can flaunt their green credentials.
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At first i was confuse looking the usual red bike line which now become yellow 🥲