Very interesting study. I enjoyed hearing your explanation. I've been doing something similar with my Shimano Steps batteries. I've recently adjusted the assist mode levels and share between the Trail (High) and Boost (High) modes during my rides. I was able to take a 17 mile ride sharing both modes yesterday and finished on the last bar with some power remaining on one battery. I've only once lost total battery power during a 15 mile ride on continuous Boost mode. I was moving faster, but my battery mileage was reduced and I had to change batteries before hitting that ride's 15 mile mark.
Definitely lots to consider … I guess always have a 2nd battery or your charger with you. Finding electrical seems fairly easy and always a good reason for a break.
Very interesting. I’m rebuilding a bare bones 11 year old HP Scorpion FX to be available for guest riders. Added a Quick adjust chain kit, some beefier tires, and a mirror. Haven’t decided if I’m going to add e assist but have been considering a Tongsheng crank drive vs staying in my shimano 8000 family since I already have two batteries (a big issue when we live on an island, Ligo noted). Not sure I want to spend the money on an 11 year old trike or buy another trike for guest riders. I’m not as technical as you, just need an adequate ride for others. Again thanks for the review of the LiGo. I did check their website.
Did a 32 mile ride this morning and it was nice to know I used 174 watt/hours of power exactly. Guessing on my Shimano system that would have been 2 or 3 bars … maybe?
@@PedalPushinAK I rode 26 miles yesterday and I know that’s half a battery riding in eco mode on the way out and using a combo of eco and trail on the way back (head winds). That’s pretty consistent. I found that I really don’t need specific data when I ride as I have a good idea what my batteries will do for me. If I go out on a 20 miler and my battery shows eco mode with 20 or 22 miles available on it, I ride out without any assist to save battery for off road and trail riding, occasional (sand) boost mode and that return trip as I’ll be facing a head wind. I rode a 40 miler a couple of weeks ago and i had 8 miles left on the battery, again, I rode about 6 miles of the 40 in off mode to conserve for the trip back in case I was facing high winds. I rarely carry two batteries.
This is interesting, I'm curious about using these LiGOs for a air travel friendly e-bike build. Have you tried flying with your bikes to new adventures?
We have not yet but a trip is being planned for September. According to Grin Technologies and Bike Friday, the batteries are fully compliant with FAA regulations.
@@PedalPushinAK great looking forward to seeing that. Yeah, it seems they recommend about 4-6 batteries for worry-free travel. How much power do you draw, it seems they top out at 10A Max per pack?
@@JPBaller97 not sure on the 10a max as I don’t fully understand all involved but I typically use either 68 or 91 watts while riding which maintains my speed at 13-15mph. When climbing I will adjust and any descents I turn off the assist.
Sorry for the confusion … was riding my ICE Adventure for the video but I have the same setup on my TerraTrike as well. So now knowing a battery will give me 90 watt/hours, I can monitor usage more accurately regardless of which trike, conditions,,etc. Thanks for watching …
This battery powers the rear hub motor. I was comparing the e6100 system you can get from ICE / Shimano as my wife’s trike and my former ICE Adventure has that system.
Very interesting study. I enjoyed hearing your explanation. I've been doing something similar with my Shimano Steps batteries. I've recently adjusted the assist mode levels and share between the Trail (High) and Boost (High) modes during my rides. I was able to take a 17 mile ride sharing both modes yesterday and finished on the last bar with some power remaining on one battery. I've only once lost total battery power during a 15 mile ride on continuous Boost mode. I was moving faster, but my battery mileage was reduced and I had to change batteries before hitting that ride's 15 mile mark.
Definitely lots to consider … I guess always have a 2nd battery or your charger with you. Finding electrical seems fairly easy and always a good reason for a break.
Very interesting. I’m rebuilding a bare bones 11 year old HP Scorpion FX to be available for guest riders. Added a Quick adjust chain kit, some beefier tires, and a mirror. Haven’t decided if I’m going to add e assist but have been considering a Tongsheng crank drive vs staying in my shimano 8000 family since I already have two batteries (a big issue when we live on an island, Ligo noted). Not sure I want to spend the money on an 11 year old trike or buy another trike for guest riders. I’m not as technical as you, just need an adequate ride for others. Again thanks for the review of the LiGo. I did check their website.
Lots to consider … the install is actually quite simple, no real tools needed as you simply swap back tires and zip tie some wires.
Did a 32 mile ride this morning and it was nice to know I used 174 watt/hours of power exactly. Guessing on my Shimano system that would have been 2 or 3 bars … maybe?
@@PedalPushinAK I rode 26 miles yesterday and I know that’s half a battery riding in eco mode on the way out and using a combo of eco and trail on the way back (head winds). That’s pretty consistent. I found that I really don’t need specific data when I ride as I have a good idea what my batteries will do for me. If I go out on a 20 miler and my battery shows eco mode with 20 or 22 miles available on it, I ride out without any assist to save battery for off road and trail riding, occasional (sand) boost mode and that return trip as I’ll be facing a head wind. I rode a 40 miler a couple of weeks ago and i had 8 miles left on the battery, again, I rode about 6 miles of the 40 in off mode to conserve for the trip back in case I was facing high winds. I rarely carry two batteries.
@@hawaiiantrike-surfkayak think the trick is simply riding enough that you know your system.
@@PedalPushinAK totally agree
That was interesting. Did you find out if the battery has had a protective circuit to shut itself off when it gets down to a low level?
Near as I can tell, yes. Basically 10% from what I can tell. Will continue testing, mostly for my own interest.
@@PedalPushinAK That's probably right, but it would be nice if the battery only needed 5% or even less as a safety cutoff point.
This is interesting, I'm curious about using these LiGOs for a air travel friendly e-bike build. Have you tried flying with your bikes to new adventures?
We have not yet but a trip is being planned for September. According to Grin Technologies and Bike Friday, the batteries are fully compliant with FAA regulations.
@@PedalPushinAK great looking forward to seeing that. Yeah, it seems they recommend about 4-6 batteries for worry-free travel.
How much power do you draw, it seems they top out at 10A Max per pack?
@@JPBaller97 not sure on the 10a max as I don’t fully understand all involved but I typically use either 68 or 91 watts while riding which maintains my speed at 13-15mph. When climbing I will adjust and any descents I turn off the assist.
Checked all my screens and it looks like I was drawing 1.6a, 68w of power, 14 mph.
@@PedalPushinAK I was trying to figure out what the max power continuous and burst for LiGo based system would be
Bit confusing you mention terra trike?.yet video description says ice adventure?
Is this grin tech battery powering the shimano steps e6100 motor!
Sorry for the confusion … was riding my ICE Adventure for the video but I have the same setup on my TerraTrike as well. So now knowing a battery will give me 90 watt/hours, I can monitor usage more accurately regardless of which trike, conditions,,etc.
Thanks for watching …
This battery powers the rear hub motor. I was comparing the e6100 system you can get from ICE / Shimano as my wife’s trike and my former ICE Adventure has that system.