I have two Maico 700 supermoto and enduro. My supermoto is tuned to 98hp. It is so much fun but vibration is really bad. Maico 700cc is bit different engine than zabel 700cc. Maico 700cc hewa power has reed block in the cylinder and zabel is case reed valve. Ports are also different and Maico 700cc is 5 speed and zabel 4 speed. So maico engine is better for mx bike. Greetings from Finland!
@@kasperkytöläMoni sanoo, että voisi irrota 120hp, mutta en oikein usko. Tätä pyörää on nyt 5 vuotta rakennettu ja tuo 98hp on paras mitä on irronnu penkissä. Ruotsissa cr550cc liger pyörästä otettiin 100hp. Tässä 700cc alkaa jo hyötysuhde olemaan aika huono.
My dad's friend has one. He got it brand new last year. an insane bike, he put turn signals and made it street legal. The crazyest bike ive ever seen....
Nice video, a few things: 1. At 4:38, that's a 250 piston not a CR500. 2. All videos labeled as Canal ID are actually me. 3. The bike is very easy to start, prime it, TDC, use compression release half way. The video of me looking like I have trouble kicking it was to show the compression of trying to kick it without the compression release. 4. While the Zabel does have the same bolt pattern, at least the newer Z29 engines have a 13mm instead of 12mm, so the bolt holes have to be enlarged on the frame and the swingarm bolt also needs to be thicker so you have to put in spacers. The last issue with the frame is that the case induction puts the carb too low for the stock airbox and actually directs the carb into the shock, so you have to take care of that. Most Zabel engines in Maico frames are Pre-Z29 without case induction. 5. Canadian Maico went to court and lost. Eric Cook of Maico Only actually had bought the rights to US Maico and he let it expire because he is not enforcing any trademark. SoCal Maico had a letter from Eric in court Fix up EDIT: Everyone lost in court. They didn't get the trademark canceled. However, CM was overstepping their boundaries, just because you buy a picture and trademark it for $300 doesn't mean you own the entire history of a company or the name itself, which he was claiming. So CM also lost his lawsuit. he can't tell people they can't sell maico parts, he just has the logo, not ownership rights of the company. So everyone can still sell maico parts, use the maico name, etc.
Thanks for the clarifications, and sorry for the miss-labeling. Maybe the website that showed the Maico trademark ownership was out of date, but basically ... did the canadian company actually loose the trademark? I knew they couldn’t enforce it on the parts suppliers, but I didn’t know if they still technically had it.
@@KRANKiT They tried to cancel it and looks like they were unsuccessful. ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92058956&pty=CAN&eno=5&mode=frame There was a lot to it, it was more than just the trademark, so I should have been more clear there. The problem was that he was stating because he owned the trademark, he now owned Maico as a company outright and he was asking anyone using the Maico name or selling Maico parts to pay him. So there were several lawsuits, Eric Cook had one, Gary had one and Canadian Maico had one against Gary. The lawsuit from Canadian Maico to Gary went as far as to say he had to remove the Maico sticker from the back of his truck window. CM was looking to sell the company and though this brought more value. So, that lawsuit that was against Gary was dropped, he can sell Maico parts without having to pay CM royalties. It also said that having the name Maico in socalmaico's website was infringement, selling counterfeit parts, etc. So, that lawsuit they did win; CM doesn't have a monopoly on Maico parts that he was trying to do. I have deal with him once in the past, he is shady and I would not deal with him for anything.
I would love to be able to sit down and just talk to you. I'm sure you have stories that need to live on for many years. I only got to ride one of these bikes once and it was an amazing bike. I didn't have a hard time starting, the power was addictive for sure. Many years for riding have put my body in rough shape but I still love getting out once in a while.
Its a mystery for me how you only have 15k subs, 150k would be more reasonable but still low. All I can say is keep doing what you do, you always have top quality content bro!
KRANKiT you should see the story of Grabiele Gnani motorcycle. After years of work he built a mono 125cc 55hp. the best interview is from Edoardo Mazzuoli/ Hope you like it.
They are back on sale around October. They sold out last year pretty fast and basically said if u missed out good luck next year. Also no road legal versions will make it out of the factory for this model year. Price is 18000$ + import from Germany
Always interesting. Being from Sweden, it would be nice to see a documentary about Highland Motors. If you remember those strange V2 bikes. The owners died in a helicopter crash or something. You just get bits of information, would be nice with a real documentary.
My dream bike has always been the 900cc Husqvarna, almost bought one from a guy i got a vintage YZ250 from, went back to score it a few days later and it was already sold.
I used to work for Köstler (as a salesman which really wasn't my calling) and didn't even know that they made the Maico 700... Peter and Axel Köstler are really passionate about bikes. Especially their Maicos but their Ktm's as well. And my dad used to race Motocross on CR 500s and Axel Köstler raced on Maicos at the same time in the same class.
I rode one of these bikes back in 1997 and have to say it was a widow maker back then no one made bikes with power that these bikes had. I've only ever seen the one I rode and would love to see one of the newer ones to see what they compare to in my mind. It would be like meeting your dream bike and everyone knows you shouldn't ever ride your dream bike, kinda like your childhood dream car.
I visited the Dealership becuase I live really near by a month ago. It was amazing, saw some cool KTMs and Huskys, and then found the Maico 700 in some Corner of the Dealership. When I looked at the Cylinder I couldnt beleive how big it was, because I was usually looking at my 125 Engine. Amazing bike but I would agree it wouldnt be very usefull for Motocross
From what ive seen, atk sold way more 700s, atleast in the US, then maico ever did. very recently, maico branded 700s have appeared in very very limited numbers, possibly from the koestler dealer but the atk 700s still outnumber them.
It would have been perfect for Pikes Peak in the late 90's when it was all dirt roads....i raced a KX 500 in 1999 at Pikes Peak and wished for more speed at the top....i still took 5th in 500 pro
Why not 100hp? My buddy Dennis Rantanen from DR Motors was getting 147hp from his 600cc twin arctic cat 2-stroke motor when he was racing mini sprints....
I think there was a company called something like Highland Motors or something like that, that made a 700cc bike and quad. i remember wanting to buy one and looking at their website in like 2010
I've had a lot of bikes in my life but the scariest was the one I got for my 14th birthday. It was a used '86 CR 500r and that bike hurt everyone who ever rode her lmao
A fully ported race prep Kawasaki 750 H2 Mach IV Triple will give you a fully irrational need for 2 Stroke speed (I know I have one). That's why to this day they continue to rise in cost, mythology and scarcity...the original Widow Maker. There fore a 700cc smoker single, hell yeah sign me up any day. Long live the 2 Stroke!
I've always thought it's stupid to use an alternating motion to generate a rotary motion. There are certainly problems, but there were also problems with the piston engine, if a lot of energy was spent to develop it properly ...........
Some german tuner upped a 300cc. 2t gasgas to 700cc, and it made 98whp, so in retrospect atleast the 100hp were not soooo far off from theoretical max power ig
No. Canadian Maico doesn't own the maico trademark. It's a fan company that owns the name. Canadian Maico just own the old logo seen on the old aluminium tanks. I doubt that they would win any legal battle though since the logotype, or sticker was around decades before they stole it. Much like patent protect the pyramids.
What happened to the original Maico and company, appears to be what’s happening to KTM. Cooperate greed, and sub par machinery. And now to have their production moving even more to India and China, and laying off workers in the home country of Austria. Oh, and they managed to kill off GAS GAS, and maybe Husqvarna too? 🧐👎
I would like to see sales numbers in China. Only because China has very strict import laws, and they may have to build all the Chinese bikes in China. GM did the same with Buick. Best selling car in China, but they had to build plants there as they could only import a few thousand. They now sell millions.
I was only 140 lbs when I had my CR500. Kickback wasn’t bad, just he sure to have your boots on. It was a great bike to ride from trails, to deserts, to hill climbs. Always sorry that I gave it to my brother.
@@KRANKiT the size of that single piston is what makes it hard to kick over. My 500 triple with its three small pistons is almost possible to kick over by hand.
😮 please please learn what the original Widowmaker was in 1970 it was a Kawasaki 500cc 3 cylinder inline road bike get your facts straight before you start ripping off the names that came from the past
There’s been lots of things called the widow maker. They called the original 930 turbo Porsche the widow maker. It would come into boost and want send the rear tires ahead of the front tires sailing you into a tree backwards.
@hpkntnw yes but they designated the motorcycle from the early 60s or late 60s early 70s and it was the H1 500 CC not the 750 so they're the ones that set the precedents and the criteria for the remark they made I'm sorry but I erased both motorcycles back in the early seventies and the 500 was clearly faster and better than the 700 was because they use the 500 to win the first world 500cc cup for the first Japanese motorcycle please get your things straight and don't patronise someone older than you that knows where the original term came from I'm sorry but I know my shit when it comes to Cali triples there was also a 900 CC triple that nobody seems to be able to locate but they built them all the way up to 900 CC's the 900 was pathetically slow and out of date and it rattled too much and had a head tube shake worse than the Mach One 500 that is why it had a preload knob on the main bearings for the steering head tube it was to keep that high speed wobble around 8500 RPM from killing people
the vid is ok but you are not giving the credits to KAPLAN AMERICA and you make your vid based on his videos ...and no even mention ...i dont like that
I have two Maico 700 supermoto and enduro. My supermoto is tuned to 98hp. It is so much fun but vibration is really bad. Maico 700cc is bit different engine than zabel 700cc. Maico 700cc hewa power has reed block in the cylinder and zabel is case reed valve. Ports are also different and Maico 700cc is 5 speed and zabel 4 speed. So maico engine is better for mx bike. Greetings from Finland!
But from what I read, the Zabel engine would bolt right into a Maico frame if one wanted to, right? Even though internally it's different
Onko penkitetty 98 hp? Mitä kaikkea sille on tehty sit?
@@KRANKiTYes that’s right Maico 700 engine is made by Zabel so it’s very similar to zm29.
@@kasperkytöläPolttoaineena metanoli, puristusta nostettu, männässä ”jäähdytys reiät”, portattu, itse tehty pakoputki ja 48mm lectron kaasutin.
@@kasperkytöläMoni sanoo, että voisi irrota 120hp, mutta en oikein usko. Tätä pyörää on nyt 5 vuotta rakennettu ja tuo 98hp on paras mitä on irronnu penkissä. Ruotsissa cr550cc liger pyörästä otettiin 100hp. Tässä 700cc alkaa jo hyötysuhde olemaan aika huono.
My dad's friend has one. He got it brand new last year. an insane bike, he put turn signals and made it street legal. The crazyest bike ive ever seen....
That sounds sweeeeeet
I'm old & always lusted after the Maico 501
Nice video, a few things:
1. At 4:38, that's a 250 piston not a CR500.
2. All videos labeled as Canal ID are actually me.
3. The bike is very easy to start, prime it, TDC, use compression release half way. The video of me looking like I have trouble kicking it was to show the compression of trying to kick it without the compression release.
4. While the Zabel does have the same bolt pattern, at least the newer Z29 engines have a 13mm instead of 12mm, so the bolt holes have to be enlarged on the frame and the swingarm bolt also needs to be thicker so you have to put in spacers. The last issue with the frame is that the case induction puts the carb too low for the stock airbox and actually directs the carb into the shock, so you have to take care of that. Most Zabel engines in Maico frames are Pre-Z29 without case induction.
5. Canadian Maico went to court and lost. Eric Cook of Maico Only actually had bought the rights to US Maico and he let it expire because he is not enforcing any trademark. SoCal Maico had a letter from Eric in court Fix up EDIT: Everyone lost in court. They didn't get the trademark canceled. However, CM was overstepping their boundaries, just because you buy a picture and trademark it for $300 doesn't mean you own the entire history of a company or the name itself, which he was claiming. So CM also lost his lawsuit. he can't tell people they can't sell maico parts, he just has the logo, not ownership rights of the company. So everyone can still sell maico parts, use the maico name, etc.
Thanks for the clarifications, and sorry for the miss-labeling. Maybe the website that showed the Maico trademark ownership was out of date, but basically ... did the canadian company actually loose the trademark? I knew they couldn’t enforce it on the parts suppliers, but I didn’t know if they still technically had it.
@@KRANKiT They tried to cancel it and looks like they were unsuccessful. ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?pno=92058956&pty=CAN&eno=5&mode=frame
There was a lot to it, it was more than just the trademark, so I should have been more clear there. The problem was that he was stating because he owned the trademark, he now owned Maico as a company outright and he was asking anyone using the Maico name or selling Maico parts to pay him. So there were several lawsuits, Eric Cook had one, Gary had one and Canadian Maico had one against Gary. The lawsuit from Canadian Maico to Gary went as far as to say he had to remove the Maico sticker from the back of his truck window. CM was looking to sell the company and though this brought more value. So, that lawsuit that was against Gary was dropped, he can sell Maico parts without having to pay CM royalties. It also said that having the name Maico in socalmaico's website was infringement, selling counterfeit parts, etc. So, that lawsuit they did win; CM doesn't have a monopoly on Maico parts that he was trying to do. I have deal with him once in the past, he is shady and I would not deal with him for anything.
I would love to be able to sit down and just talk to you. I'm sure you have stories that need to live on for many years. I only got to ride one of these bikes once and it was an amazing bike. I didn't have a hard time starting, the power was addictive for sure. Many years for riding have put my body in rough shape but I still love getting out once in a while.
Its a mystery for me how you only have 15k subs, 150k would be more reasonable but still low. All I can say is keep doing what you do, you always have top quality content bro!
He'll get the numbers he deserves eventually. He's putting his all into these videos.
best videos on youtube. legend
I really appreciate the kind words!
Dude thinking the same thing
@@KRANKiT
Dude, this was brilliant!
Keep up the good work!
KRANKiT you should see the story of Grabiele Gnani motorcycle. After years of work he built a mono 125cc 55hp. the best interview is from Edoardo Mazzuoli/ Hope you like it.
I will check that out, sounds like a fascinating story!
700 cc 2 stroke dirt bike ? I’m 65 years old !
Where do I sign ?
Some say with age comes wisdom. Apparently, some are also really wrong :)
Kaplan Cycles usually gets 1 or 2 a year.
They are back on sale around October. They sold out last year pretty fast and basically said if u missed out good luck next year. Also no road legal versions will make it out of the factory for this model year. Price is 18000$ + import from Germany
Hell yeah brother!!! Hit it old man!... 😉
That's a helluva ride, a 500 cr , will get me nervous
I had a 450 Maico when I raced for Sand Brodie's Cycles back in the 80's
Shout out to Kaplan America 😎
Always interesting.
Being from Sweden, it would be nice to see a documentary about Highland Motors. If you remember those strange V2 bikes. The owners died in a helicopter crash or something. You just get bits of information, would be nice with a real documentary.
I still have an original highland brochure! I always thought they had something to do with the people making husaberg
@@petergriffin4629 there is a Wikipedia page that has some great info on Highland Motors. It does not mention any connection to husaberg.
As a husaberg/folan fan, I'd like to see this too. Truly a sad story of "what could have been . . ."
My dream bike has always been the 900cc Husqvarna, almost bought one from a guy i got a vintage YZ250 from, went back to score it a few days later and it was already sold.
.. Man, you are just genius. Thank you for your effort, it's amazing to watch. Miroslav
Cheers mate!
I used to work for Köstler (as a salesman which really wasn't my calling) and didn't even know that they made the Maico 700... Peter and Axel Köstler are really passionate about bikes. Especially their Maicos but their Ktm's as well.
And my dad used to race Motocross on CR 500s and Axel Köstler raced on Maicos at the same time in the same class.
I rode one of these bikes back in 1997 and have to say it was a widow maker back then no one made bikes with power that these bikes had. I've only ever seen the one I rode and would love to see one of the newer ones to see what they compare to in my mind. It would be like meeting your dream bike and everyone knows you shouldn't ever ride your dream bike, kinda like your childhood dream car.
I visited the Dealership becuase I live really near by a month ago. It was amazing, saw some cool KTMs and Huskys, and then found the Maico 700 in some Corner of the Dealership. When I looked at the Cylinder I couldnt beleive how big it was, because I was usually looking at my 125 Engine. Amazing bike but I would agree it wouldnt be very usefull for Motocross
Thanks again for great detail and story telling! Awesome channel
It would be a very interesting video about Ossa Enduro 300i.
Look at the 2 extra fuel tanks it has on the handle bar and number plate just to keep up with the 700c 2S
From what ive seen, atk sold way more 700s, atleast in the US, then maico ever did. very recently, maico branded 700s have appeared in very very limited numbers, possibly from the koestler dealer but the atk 700s still outnumber them.
Is it wilder than CR500? I want one, ideally street leagal.
They have stopped production of street legal models for 2025, you can still probably buy the kit that comes on the previous years
It would have been perfect for Pikes Peak in the late 90's when it was all dirt roads....i raced a KX 500 in 1999 at Pikes Peak and wished for more speed at the top....i still took 5th in 500 pro
Hope they stick around for a long time .
My friend from bought a Maico 490 MX bike years ago to race on
Why not 100hp? My buddy Dennis Rantanen from DR Motors was getting 147hp from his 600cc twin arctic cat 2-stroke motor when he was racing mini sprints....
Thanks for introducing this little monster to us.👍
Already 500cc 2-strokes have a reputation as ankle breakers....a 700cc 2-stroke would send your ankle into orbit with the kickback.
My KX500 kicked butt in super moto....
I think there was a company called something like Highland Motors or something like that, that made a 700cc bike and quad. i remember wanting to buy one and looking at their website in like 2010
You’d never believe what the latest video on the channel is about…
@@KRANKiT I swear that wasn't planned
I've had a lot of bikes in my life but the scariest was the one I got for my 14th birthday. It was a used '86 CR 500r and that bike hurt everyone who ever rode her lmao
You would have been the king at 14 with a 500 😂
Should be a twin - 1400 cc that would be fun 😊
Great content, thank you!
Honey wake up, KrankIt posted!
Don't forget to wake up the kids ... And the neighbourhood too :))
What are they? About $23K.
And a 9-month lead time.
Wow.
Maico to super motocykle, chociaż ktoś na świecie produkuje duże 2t😊 legendarny 700 ✌️
i really enjoyed this vid im subed
It IS a challenge for the faint at heart when trying to start it
Well done!
in germany supermoto is still basicly unrestricted regarding enginesize and mods
A fully ported race prep Kawasaki 750 H2 Mach IV Triple will give you a fully irrational need for 2 Stroke speed (I know I have one). That's why to this day they continue to rise in cost, mythology and scarcity...the original Widow Maker. There fore a 700cc smoker single, hell yeah sign me up any day. Long live the 2 Stroke!
700 is so much for a dirtbike jeez (max i drove was a honda 500 dirtbike and that shit is scary)
6:35 spa francorchamps sumo track. its not being ridden fast at all tho lol
Is there any flying M decal out there?
Yeah. Drop the Maiko name and call it Hellboy!
I've always thought it's stupid to use an alternating motion to generate a rotary motion.
There are certainly problems, but there were also problems with the piston engine, if a lot of energy was spent to develop it properly ...........
What Canadian company owns the brand
Some german tuner upped a 300cc. 2t gasgas to 700cc, and it made 98whp, so in retrospect atleast the 100hp were not soooo far off from theoretical max power ig
That’s sib, he used a Zabel engine, the same one as in a maico, not a modded KTM group engine
Maico breako I will have one but with new title laws un leas i score a unicorn with papers I'll have to just settle for panthura 600cc
BRC 500
That is not a maico, that is the ATK intimidator, and i want one
HELLO FROM GREECE BROTHERs
Hey there!
I'm not mad yo
It’s a shame you don’t have more subs.
if you dont talk about the atk 700 intimidator in this video I'll be mad lol
Promises promises..... Reminds me of Titanic 2 supposed to being launched in 2012... And then again in 2018... And then 2024... And now i doubt it...
Please please stop with the burning embers. It was fine for the first couple of times but it got old really fast.
Germany is the best for ever in mechanical engineering🔴
No. Canadian Maico doesn't own the maico trademark. It's a fan company that owns the name. Canadian Maico just own the old logo seen on the old aluminium tanks. I doubt that they would win any legal battle though since the logotype, or sticker was around decades before they stole it.
Much like patent protect the pyramids.
What happened to the original Maico and company, appears to be what’s happening to KTM. Cooperate greed, and sub par machinery. And now to have their production moving even more to India and China, and laying off workers in the home country of Austria. Oh, and they managed to kill off GAS GAS, and maybe Husqvarna too? 🧐👎
I would like to see sales numbers in China. Only because China has very strict import laws, and they may have to build all the Chinese bikes in China. GM did the same with Buick. Best selling car in China, but they had to build plants there as they could only import a few thousand. They now sell millions.
OMG есть еще один жесткий 2т двигатель но не помню название Zabel 700 а вы про него и рассказали оказывается ну ладно
Good video!
My father was racing in the DDR. He use a CZ 500..
But germany is going to fall...
Peace from germany!
Only Jesus can help us.
Amen and God bless from the Detroit area. We have fallen as well.
hope you got permission from kaplan to use his videos
Michaels? May-Koh
People say the force and kickback is insane on the cr500s. I don’t even want to know what that’s like.
I was only 140 lbs when I had my CR500. Kickback wasn’t bad, just he sure to have your boots on. It was a great bike to ride from trails, to deserts, to hill climbs. Always sorry that I gave it to my brother.
I think with the Maico the position of the kick starter (left side) doesn't help its case either.
@@KRANKiT the size of that single piston is what makes it hard to kick over. My 500 triple with its three small pistons is almost possible to kick over by hand.
No bike made since the advent of the electronic ignition kicks back unless it its timing is horribly off.
😮 please please learn what the original Widowmaker was in 1970 it was a Kawasaki 500cc 3 cylinder inline road bike get your facts straight before you start ripping off the names that came from the past
There’s been lots of things called the widow maker. They called the original 930 turbo Porsche the widow maker. It would come into boost and want send the rear tires ahead of the front tires sailing you into a tree backwards.
@hpkntnw yes but they designated the motorcycle from the early 60s or late 60s early 70s and it was the H1 500 CC not the 750 so they're the ones that set the precedents and the criteria for the remark they made I'm sorry but I erased both motorcycles back in the early seventies and the 500 was clearly faster and better than the 700 was because they use the 500 to win the first world 500cc cup for the first Japanese motorcycle please get your things straight and don't patronise someone older than you that knows where the original term came from I'm sorry but I know my shit when it comes to Cali triples there was also a 900 CC triple that nobody seems to be able to locate but they built them all the way up to 900 CC's the 900 was pathetically slow and out of date and it rattled too much and had a head tube shake worse than the Mach One 500 that is why it had a preload knob on the main bearings for the steering head tube it was to keep that high speed wobble around 8500 RPM from killing people
Atk 700 intimidator,zabel 685-700 known by a lot of names like satan😂
"My-co"? Really?
Sorry; that is more-or-less the German pronunciation. The combination of 'a" and 'i' is pronounced like the sound in the English word 'eye'.
the vid is ok but you are not giving the credits to KAPLAN AMERICA and you make your vid based on his videos ...and no even mention ...i dont like that
they are both scumbags
It's a purebred beast, an untamed wild animal that only those who are capable on 500 II stroke's should attempt!
ATK did it first