A day at Llangollen Goods Junction

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  • Thanks to our colleagues at the Llangollen railway ,we get to see the opening and closing operations at the Signalbox and passing of trains each way and get to work the Signalbox under instruction of the signaller Allan.
    Our special thanks goes to Allan for the instruction and to the Signalling-manager Andrew for arranging the visit .
    The video itself is an abridged version of the days activities due to time and digital storage so only the key parts have been maintained within the video itself.

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  • @Mav_at_Pwll-Y-Ddraig
    @Mav_at_Pwll-Y-Ddraig ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I spent so many years picking up and dropping off tokens at Good box that is was really nice to see it from the other side :) Keep up the great work guys :) Maverick

  • @LordTantrums007
    @LordTantrums007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Llangollen Railway one of the best heritage railways to have visited and is like stepping back in time to the late c1950s. Superb!

  • @leedavies1852
    @leedavies1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    takes me back to my childhood in the 80's with my dad in the SB on a weekend on british rail .

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I recall my dad doing similar with colleagues in their boxes, probably why I became interested in signalling

  • @philbartlett7898
    @philbartlett7898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent and very informative video - thanks very much.
    I first experienced the use of these token machines in the mid 1970s at Wharf station on the Talyllyn railway whilst visiting during lunch hour from the school. That extended into skiving games lessons etc and I will remain very much indebted to Phil Care and David Woodhouse for teaching me everything I knew back then, and for the references to get me onto the "big railway" in 1978 when I spent some times in Machynlleth box with the same EKTs.
    What I had never experienced until this video was the procedures for opening and closing a signal box so thanks verry much, also to the fantastic Llangollen railway for recreating the 1950s and 1960s British railways scene.

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks sir, indeed one box Ive never got inside due to its condition was Machynlleth , shame really
      You may like the Talylltn videos as they also have opening boxes sequences with key token

  • @LaziUK
    @LaziUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's good old Dom from S&T with the kids hi-vis on, always good to see him coming up the steps when something goes wrong in your box!

  • @delboy1727
    @delboy1727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've worked a number of signal boxes, but never one with token block. Looks like a lot of additional work.

  • @anilpille189
    @anilpille189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God bless all Railway Employee

  • @davidspottiswoode3831
    @davidspottiswoode3831 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this! Thank you for sharing.

  • @chainreaction2006
    @chainreaction2006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive just applied for a grade 2 role to get started really hope i get it it looks really intresting

  • @Snapdragon4472
    @Snapdragon4472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Nice to see the opening and closing sequence of the box. What happened to lever 24? It decided it would stay locked and refused to budge! I note there is a small piece edited out as the video continues with 24 already replaced back to normal. What happened to keep it locked?

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’s quite a bit edited out as I had about eight hours worth to compress down to an enjoyable limit.

  • @2760ade
    @2760ade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I take it you have done this before, or are you a very fast learner? It looks incredibly complicated. Was a very entertaining video!

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve a reasonable amount of knowledge but you can always learn something new and every heritage line has differing signalling to suit their needs

  • @aidenbrewster4209
    @aidenbrewster4209 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d love to work that for a day

  • @edwardgrayson-d4e
    @edwardgrayson-d4e 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why do they need a towel to operate the switches and siignals levers??....

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@edwardgrayson-d4e years of acid and grease from hands tarnishes the highly polished handles so
      Generally they use cloths to prevent that. Some levers had moulded plastic handles to save on this but that was a later idea

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get the orders, line the route, engage the interlock and set the signal
    The previous and the next control point should not be able to set a green towards your control point
    Station 1 sets NB green track green, and you line the track and set NB green, and station 3 lines track 1 and sets NB green
    You can't set SB green on track 1, neither can control point 3
    It is very complicated, and the equipment prevents anyone from being able to set a green against a green, even after the green has dropped

    • @anubis6864
      @anubis6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ?????????

    • @anubis6864
      @anubis6864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I've no idea what you're on about, and I suspect you don't either!

  • @TheChris2009
    @TheChris2009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s with the brown levers? Why does one have a single white band, and why does the other have multiple? What do they control?

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheChris2009 brown levers usually for release of ground frames separate to the Signalbox
      There is a small ground frame outside the box used for shunting the yard to the mainline when the box is closed , it is interlocked with the box but used when it’s quiet periods and the Signalbox is not open and manned hence brown levers but white stripe (release of signal)
      The striped brown and white levers would be a king lever , when operated in conjunction with the interlocking and tokens it allows you to clear all the normally opposing signals in both directions so you can close the box but still have trains signalled past. Eg all signals cleared but no one working the box

  • @nickmiller76
    @nickmiller76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Signalmen certainly wear shorts a lot.

  • @LaurenceStant
    @LaurenceStant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the collar on the section signal Dom?

    • @dereklund2321
      @dereklund2321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wondered that too. Perhaps the release on the section signal is of the "one pull only" type and the collar is there to prevent the signalman putting back prematurely and losing the release.

    • @LaurenceStant
      @LaurenceStant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dereklund2321 I think you might be right. When switching out at the end the signalman tells Dom to pull off the section signal first with a clear pull so there's less chance of it falling back as the other man has left!

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that’s basically the reason, it’s a counter measure to the human error factor of oh dear I’ve done something I didn’t want to do 🙃, good practice

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So complicated

    • @davidellis279
      @davidellis279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never realised it was this complicated and I have been going on this railway for years,even drove a steam and diesel train here,great experience.

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yea there’s many intricacies to the operating regulations
      Never mind the actual technical parts of the signalling

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FOR GOD SAKES
    DON'T TOUCH THAT !!!!!!!!!

  • @ocsrc
    @ocsrc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ATCS is All handled now in America by the computer
    The dispatcher sets the route, and the control points line and lock and set the greens as soon as they are able
    What you see is the first route set in the morning, say 5am, and as soon as the train clears the control point, and is out of the terminal, they next set of commands is sent, and the BCP tells the MCPs what the next route will be, so each control point is set, and the next train might not be do for 4 hours, or in some cases 2 days.
    Seeing the data and how soon it transmitted it, I was shocked
    The entire days commands, just 6 routes set, and the BCP log showed those 6
    The MCPs transmitted the actual occupancy and every time something changes or every 60 seconds
    So you might see the Control point MCP send a new indication every 5 seconds
    All of what is happening, the computer is handling all of it
    No one is actually seeing all this data, all the indications and commands
    All the things these people are doing manually, it is all done in the background by computers
    So many jobs gone

    • @irseminorrailwayssection9491
      @irseminorrailwayssection9491  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another of my loves is American towers and lines. It started with the scenery , you modernised
      Long before we did