Colt Z40 Pistol #1

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    The Colt Z40 was a collaboration between Colt and the then-relatively-unknown CZ firm. Colt was coming off two remarkably unsuccessful pistol launches in the early 1990s (the Double Eagle and the All American 2000), and needed something to offer in the duty pistol market. They arranged to sell a pistol made by CZ with a 1911-style grip combined with the excellent CZ-75 upper assembly and lockwork. The guns were chambered for .40 S&W because the recent 1994 Assault Weapons Ban had limited new production magazines to 10 rounds.
    However, after only 800 had been sold, Colt backed out of the deal and dropped the Z40 from its catalog. Why? Because they had happened to use a Z40 as the base gun for a model "smart gun", and the public reaction was overwhelmingly negative. In the aftermath, Colt management threw out the Z40 as the proverbial baby in the bathwater, simply because it had been tarnished by the PR of the smart gun debacle.
    CZ, for its part, made a few tweaks to the design (primarily replacing the DA-only lockwork with the DA/SA system for the CZ-75) and released it on their own as the CZ-40.

ความคิดเห็น • 563

  • @kibicz
    @kibicz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Now CZ wants to buy Colt.. that interesting twist of history and kind of a pay back;)

    • @Theonederboy
      @Theonederboy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh how the turn tables

    • @Locutus494
      @Locutus494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      No, they DID buy Colt.

    • @Victimesty
      @Victimesty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Locutus494 Yes, eventually. The original comment is nine months old. They meanwhile finished the deal. Doesn´t mean that Kibicz is wrong.

    • @TheWhoamaters
      @TheWhoamaters 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Locutus494 Good, maybe something new will come from that antiquated company

    • @leroyjenkins4811
      @leroyjenkins4811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LIONTAMER3D
      Good. Maybe they’ll get an investment in new tooling and make some new guns. Maybe they can make some guns in new calibers and with higher capacity.

  • @GregsWorkshopOregon
    @GregsWorkshopOregon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I'm always impressed at how you can tell these stories by memory in a single continuous shot. Thanks for the continued information!

    • @zenjon7892
      @zenjon7892 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is Gun Jesus

  • @Logovanni
    @Logovanni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I tell the colt Z-40 and CZ 40B story every time I bring my 40B out and people love it. Thanks Ian for being 100% inline with my interests.

  • @LN37275
    @LN37275 8 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    Wow, I'm loving this. You are a good story-teller! I bet even a non-gun person would find this video interesting.

    • @TheKaareaksel
      @TheKaareaksel 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +Lovenought I do, Never owned or shot a gun in my life

    • @mikegreen5249
      @mikegreen5249 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      +Lovenought I watch most his videos just for history of the guns, never owned a gun never will.

    • @modestMouseism
      @modestMouseism 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      +Lovenought I'm no gun person and doubt more than 50% of the people here are. Ian is a fascinating storyteller, the guns are aesthetic and interesting. Never shot or even seen a real firearm in my life. Still watching every video he uploads.

    • @strilight
      @strilight 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +Lovenought I come here to learn about guns and listen to Ian. Even if it's a gun I already know about.
      Ian just seems like the kind of person you listen to even if he's talking about the most boring subject. The fact that he's talking about rare guns is a giant bonus.

    • @teneresand
      @teneresand 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kåre Jensen Du burde prøve det!

  • @animefreddiemercury
    @animefreddiemercury 8 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    New Jersey does in fact have that smart gun law in effect. A few years ago some shop in another state was going to sell the Armatix, but was hounded by NJ gun owners who were freaking out at the guy because he'd trigger our law to go into effect.
    Supposedly, Loretta Weinburg, who drafted the law in the 90s claims to regret it, because it's hampered all potential progress on smartguns. Fortunately, she's was correct on this, as smart guns are a terrible idea in my opinion.

    • @rustylord_met2132
      @rustylord_met2132 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It might be nifty in the future where tech is more reliable then mechanical means, but good ole common sense will likely be the better option.

    • @johnharvey5412
      @johnharvey5412 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Kaiser So basically, if I were a gun designer and I made the first functional smart gun, I'd have a complete monopoly in NJ? How has anyone NOT taken advantage of this?

    • @cougarhunter33
      @cougarhunter33 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      +John Harvey Because nobody outside of NJ would EVER buy a single thing from you ever again.

    • @johnharvey5412
      @johnharvey5412 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      cougarhunter33
      For some random Joe Gunman (not a big company like S&W), that still sounds like a huge net positive.

    • @icepicjoey
      @icepicjoey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The law makes it mandatory for all gun owners to convert their guns to smart guns when the tech comes out or surrender them. Its waa challenged and heard nothing else on it.

  • @TheNinjaDC
    @TheNinjaDC 6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    For reference, CZ does more or less still make their version, but only the sub-compact variant.
    The CZ Rami's description on the website doesn't mention it, but only a blind man wouldn't see the connection.
    But, it did work out in the end. The metal framed Rami is pretty popular as the sub-compact CZ 75 platform for CZ.

    • @calebnation6155
      @calebnation6155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not since it’s discontinuation in 2018 or 2019

    • @dgreen8079
      @dgreen8079 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@calebnation6155You just had to rub that in there, hu bud? Me wants one bad!!

  • @jasonhill8696
    @jasonhill8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I’m back because of current events

  • @antonk.2748
    @antonk.2748 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine, its 2 AM, you wake up because there is a noise in your house, glass shattering, men talking, you grab your pistol from the shelf, sneak downstairs, 2 thief's with guns and masks, one dude sees you, gets his gun out, fires. You wanna return fire, pull the trigger, "click" oh sheit, forgot the chip ring upstairs. And that was the brave end of a not-so-smart smart gun user.

  • @pevtsovy
    @pevtsovy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ian, The Colt Z40 may not be an"old" weapon, but sure is a "forgotten" one. Please keep the good work. Yours is one of the most educational firearms channels on TH-cam.

  • @josephg.2988
    @josephg.2988 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    New Jersey does have that law on the books, Ian. A dealer in Maryland wanted to import from Europe and found out he was affecting the NJ gun-purchasing public, so he dropped it.

  • @Heimtreats
    @Heimtreats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Crazy to think that cz would eventually buy colt lol. Kind of a foreshadowing 🤔

    • @johnmcclain3887
      @johnmcclain3887 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny, the folks who actually love freedom and guns, seem to be able to make good guns.

  • @davidodler7031
    @davidodler7031 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm a fan from Czech Republic and THIS gun I'm seeing first time in my life :-))

    • @MJBlount95
      @MJBlount95 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are your gun rights in the Czech republic? Are they fairly loose? Just curious.

    • @davidodler7031
      @davidodler7031 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      + Jared Blount >>> It's easy to get a licence and gun, but it's a trouble to use it. For example, in 1998 I shot the attacker with a pitchfork (he dead) and investigations and trials ran year and a half ... (Fortunately I was discharged.) In the Czech Republic are not uncommon cases where a defender shoots armed and dangerous attacker - and defender goes to jail for it. In our law there is the phrase "excessive self-defense", which means that first you have to wait until the attacker will kill you, and only then can you defend ... That is why we rule: "If you defend, the attacker must not survive and talk." Some Czech owners of gun carry a knife, that if necessary inserted into the dead man's hand. Then the "excessive defense" becomes "reasonable". It's cynical, but it's better than prison.
      Sorry for my English...

    • @xDonarudox
      @xDonarudox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +David Odler Your English is very good. Thanks for sharing that with us. I'm glad everything worked out for you in the end. That must have been a terrible experience.

    • @davidodler7031
      @davidodler7031 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Don F >>> Yeah, it's terrible. About 5 years later, I ended up on disability pension with depression... I can not imagine the situation of professional soldiers with such events are confronted all the time, perhaps years...

    • @rustylord_met2132
      @rustylord_met2132 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +David Odler Some parts of the US are similar, granted most places would assume any provable act of aggression, ei pitchfork in your property would be enough legally, but maybe not civily.

  • @solarflare1008
    @solarflare1008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Probably the best Colt ever and never available for sale.

  • @Bamdd5
    @Bamdd5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Colt kind of sounds like the Gibson of the gun industry

  • @fordxbgtfalcon
    @fordxbgtfalcon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Good looking gun in opinion.

  • @davevoecks6264
    @davevoecks6264 8 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Interesting. I guess I thought Colt being their own worst enemy was a relatively new thing.
    I really don't want to see them go away, but I'm kind of hoping for somebody else to acquire them (somebody who isn't Freedom Group). They'd probably have to fall a ways for this to work, but in a way, I'd like to see CZ buy Colt. CZ has experience with having to innovate, because their "Classic Coke" is cloned so often (just like Colt), and CZ actually had the stones to start producing the Dan Wesson 715 revolver, again. It would be sweet if SOMEBODY did that with Colt. I would love to have a Python, a Detective Special, a Magnum Carry, and an Anaconda.

    • @coolmovie2137
      @coolmovie2137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      wow, your wish came true 5 years later

    • @kibicz
      @kibicz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great comment from the past;)

    • @Locutus494
      @Locutus494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So... do you by chance own a time machine? 🤣

    • @MandoWookie
      @MandoWookie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh great seer of the future, what other prophecies do you bestow upon us?

  • @bobojo37
    @bobojo37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Who's here after the acquisition of Colt by CZ?

    • @DK-gy7ll
      @DK-gy7ll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup... this was one of the first things I thought...

    • @OD_G00N
      @OD_G00N 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ayyyyy

  • @hunterrichie2764
    @hunterrichie2764 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    So Colt got rid of them because people thought all Colt z40s were smartguns.

    • @nathanb1084
      @nathanb1084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Colt apparently had (and probably still has) a very low opinion of the average American's intelligence. Lots of people in high places do. That is why so many politicians don't believe you are smart enough to make decisions for yourself..

  • @NormanMatchem
    @NormanMatchem 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That pistol would sell VERY well in Canada I believe. Being a CZ, it's likely very affordable, and in having a 10 round mag limit, that's perfect! Legally in Canada, sadly, we can only have 10 round pistol mags, which is why owning a double stack 9mm is basically just a waste of space. Really might as well go with .40 so it's not as MUCH wasted space, or even .45 ACP. I own a 1982 CZ-75 Pre-B, and yes, they are absolutely fantastic designs. Can't say I much like how tiny the grip surface is on the back of the slide.
    The serrations are VERY aggressive, but there's so very little to grab, it's actually one of the main reasons why I prefer my Hi Power over my CZ, but that's just due to me. Big clumsy hands. They really are fantastic designs, and I'm certain the CZ combined with M1911 ergonomics would be an absolute pleasure to shoot, especially with the slightly smaller .40 S&W cartridge instead of the big meaty .45 ACP. I love .45 of course, but I don't yet own a .40. I plan to get a Glock 22, or better yet, a Glock 23 with an extended 4.14" barrel for legal purposes (once again, don't need that excess grip length that would just be wasted space), which would kill two stones with one bird, as it were. Actually 3. I don't own a Glock, a .40, or even a polymer firearm, so it'd be a lot of interesting firsts for me.
    I once handled a Glock, disassembled it, and held that polymer frame in my hand. Now as said, I own ALL steel/wooden firearms except for some pistols that have wooden grips. I'm used to frames having a bit of heft to them. To hold that feather light polymer Glock frame, lifting it up and down in my hand, I couldn't help but laugh. Not mockingly, but just out of sheer amusement. It was so weird to know that it was the frame of a pistol, basically HALF a pistol, yet it barely weighed anything. Seemed to unreal. Simple minds amused by simple things, I suppose.

    • @icepicjoey
      @icepicjoey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I do not like glocks or polymer framed weapons at all as well. The glock looks like a Lego brick gun to me.

  • @insertjjs
    @insertjjs 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    And the Z40 design lives on in the superb sub compact CZ 2075 Rami.

    • @nathanb1084
      @nathanb1084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is exactly what I thought. Was the RAMI in fact a compact version? It looks just like it.

    • @insertjjs
      @insertjjs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nathanb1084 they took the design and cut it down to make the RAMI

    • @nathanb1084
      @nathanb1084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insertjjs Thanks for the info!

  • @barneymiller7894
    @barneymiller7894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CZ75 with a 1911 grip angle? Add G10 grips, a bunch of serrations and checkering, and some Novak or Trijicon sights and you've got one hell of a boutique pistol 😂

  • @RyeOnHam
    @RyeOnHam 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered a Z40 and never got it. Always wondered why. Thanks for the back story.

  • @spiritof78
    @spiritof78 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Colt...Colt never changes.

  • @warel5730
    @warel5730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10:15 - in CZs office it was probably like "Co to kurva doprdele dělaj? Se asi posrali, ne?"

  • @cmaljai
    @cmaljai 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the CZ40B which is essentially the CZ version of this. Even in a .40 the recoil is very manageable and smooth. With the 4 inch barrel it is still very accurate as well.

  • @maverickpaladin4155
    @maverickpaladin4155 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As I recall, prior to this colossally bad business decision, Colt also was involved or at least complicit in the passage of the '94 Omnibus Crime Bill. Gun owners are not. terribly forgiving bunch when they feel they've been betrayed, particularly from within. Add the QC issues on all their products and the profit margins (or lack thereof), particularly on their Anaconda line, and it's a wonder they still exist at all. They're no doubt the Dallas Cowboys of the gun world.

    • @diktatoralexander88
      @diktatoralexander88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love them for their revolvers, that's it. I couldn't care less to have a authentic Colt AR, or 1911, anymore.
      However this Z40 might end up on my wishlist, because it does look like a good gun. I almost want someone to tell Colt to make this gun again, along with a Python MKII, and be successful again.

    • @jasonhill8696
      @jasonhill8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Closer to the gun Harley Davidson

    • @Cincy32
      @Cincy32 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jasonhill8696Orange County Choppers 🤣

  • @hesnotbad9045
    @hesnotbad9045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn. Has CZ ever disappointed? Beautiful gun, obviously excellent. Colt should take some notes

  • @tbone2260
    @tbone2260 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a CZ in 97 for my duty weapon in a small PD. It was a copy of a Browning Highpower. I became fascinated with the fact that this was a design that was so amazing for being decades old.

  • @phitausundown
    @phitausundown 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have a knack for storytelling. Thank you for this channel and all this information.

  • @bokachoy
    @bokachoy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting video thanks, best thing about these is getting the history on these gun.

  • @me2260542
    @me2260542 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own a cz40b, it is the exact same pistol. It was my first pistol purchace and I will not ever be sold. the ergonomocs, trigger, capacity, weight, and size are all very nice and i love the pistol. parts can me hard to source but i guess thats why it is a forgotten weapon.

  • @johntravolto4058
    @johntravolto4058 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahaha long time cz fan here but funny story I bought a cz 40 in the late 2000's it kept stove piping so I sent it back to cz..... few month later I was on my fishing boat completely forgot about sending it in. My cell rings and it's a guy from cz and he flat out tells me "hey bud, we've been having a lot of issues with our 40s just go on our website and pick out any 9mm you want and we'll over night it to you"
    I picked out a super awesome 9 for basically twice the cost of my 40 haha.

  • @shaz5703
    @shaz5703 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    who dis likes these videos? he explains them in depth how can you dislike that if your a gun guy? do you dislike thr gun itself? if so that doesn't deserve a dislike he works very hard on these videos

  • @solongandthanksforallthefi8365
    @solongandthanksforallthefi8365 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The CZ40b was the first pistol I bought when I was 21 (30 now) for $350 it's still running strong and I love the lil redheaded step child bastard. Definitely a "What you got there?" Gun when I take it out shooting.

  • @MumblesMarbleMouth
    @MumblesMarbleMouth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That barrel has a CZ 75 link but doesn't have a CZ 75 lock up. It actually looks very much like what is todays CZ P-09, P-07, P-10 barrel.

  • @QuantumCat76
    @QuantumCat76 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, "Forgotten" doesn't always equals "old" .
    Interesting story!

  • @MikeVal1369
    @MikeVal1369 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Forgotten Weapons, thank you so much for covering political events in your videos from a historical perspective and without any of the hyperbole or partisanship that so often accompanies such things. it makes your channel a pleasure to watch even when you touch on controversial topics.

  • @Lichlord
    @Lichlord 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these videos but you need to buy a Hi Power and spend some time with it. It's a common and great design, but your references to it are often off. The CZ has similar ergonomics to the GP35 and also uses a Browning tilting barrel action, but that's about the extent of the similarities.
    The CZ uses a trigger bow around the magazine, while the GP35's trigger linkage passes through the slide. The Hi Power's barrel cams against a fixed pin in the frame while the CZ hits the slide stop pin.

    • @GunsmithSid
      @GunsmithSid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I cringed when he said the Colt Double Eagle was a double stack magazine and then when he said the CZ-75 was basically a reworked Hi-Power my jaw dropped open in disbelief. I trust Ian and his gun knowledge is great, but the CZ 75/P-35 relationship comparison in design is flawed.

  • @johnwilkerson5508
    @johnwilkerson5508 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started reading a very neat article about the CZ 2075 RAMI sub-compact, and apparently this pistol is what it was based on. Very interesting story and a neat pistol. I might have to look for a CZ 40 B for novelty purposes.

  • @Grandpadew
    @Grandpadew 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great background information you provide in your series..... you are doing a fantastic job bringing these items to light..

  • @randinedom1055
    @randinedom1055 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very articulate and knowledgeable guy. Well done. Interesting and informative.

  • @wizardofahhhs759
    @wizardofahhhs759 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Colt should have made an updated version of the pocket hammerless. Love the look of those little pistols.

  • @funshootin1
    @funshootin1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    another home run Ian ! like previously mentioned in comments you have a way of storytelling that keeps things interesting.

  • @mattolfson9230
    @mattolfson9230 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember seeing an episode of 60 Minutes (or the like) in the late 90's where they went to Colt for a live shooting demonstration of their Smart Gun. While the reporter was all enamored with the "smart" technology, my eyes were fixated on the pistol itself, thinking, "Hey now! Colt should forget all this 'smart' crap and just put those on the market! I'd buy one!" All this time I didn't know they actually did... even if it was for only a few hundred units. Thanks for the story!

  • @nathangilbert7774
    @nathangilbert7774 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I need one of these ☹️ its exactly like my RAMI but big and in .40

  • @gestalt3
    @gestalt3 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best FW episodes, Ian! Really did your homework on this one! Lots of great info! Thanks!...of course now I want one...Darn you, Ian!

  • @roberth4688
    @roberth4688 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the CZ version of this, the CZ40B. It remains the only CZ I ever sold because it just would not function properly. I could rarely get through one mag without a failure to feed or premature slide lock.

  • @CC-mf4kl
    @CC-mf4kl 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reed Knight...one very respected gentleman, and a very very nice guy.

  • @DrRob-gr5br
    @DrRob-gr5br 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I remember when CDNN cleared those out for under $300. Kicking myself for not getting one as a collector.

  • @Vidar_Odinson
    @Vidar_Odinson 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The only smart gun I want is the M56 Smartgun

  • @kristinmay4297
    @kristinmay4297 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can't wait for the Walker!

    • @phileas007
      @phileas007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +kristin may absolutely, me too. Just got one some months ago :-)

  • @theleroyshowkid839
    @theleroyshowkid839 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive owned a cz40b for years with thousands of rounds through without ever having an issue, old reliable, its a keeper

  • @NookyAvenger
    @NookyAvenger 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's falls exactly into the category of really cool affordable collectible gun you were talking about in you Q&A video.

  • @SedatedandRestrained
    @SedatedandRestrained 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love your videos, I learn new stuff everytime! Happy patreon supporter!!!

  • @MKRocker2012
    @MKRocker2012 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Ian, just wondering, how much do you have to research about a particular gun before you make a video on it? Like, how much do you already know about the gun and it's development/history and how much do have to look up?

  • @PotatoGunsRule
    @PotatoGunsRule 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember CDNN selling a bunch of Colt 2000's, I am so glad I passed that one up.

  • @NexusIncorporation
    @NexusIncorporation 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is a Pretty cool Pistol. The Design is really great, you can't denie the Footprint of CZ lol that what i love, i really like the 1911 its actually one on my favs but this one actually takes the cake

  • @rautavaara9194
    @rautavaara9194 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm really surprised to hear that CZ isn't well known in the States. The Skorpion is easily distinguishable, for example. I assumed people would be generally aware of the company.

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +Rauta Vaara (Rautaa) It is well known today, but that wasn't the case 20 years ago.

    • @RandyLeftHandy
      @RandyLeftHandy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Rauta Vaara (Rautaa) I live in Alabama and I went to a gun show yesterday, and just about every vendor had a CZ, but nobody knows what they are!

    • @Gloomshadow100
      @Gloomshadow100 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Forgotten Weapons I remember back in 88-89 CZ-75 imports were coming in to the US under the name Tanfogilo and people would see them and go "damn that looks cool, but at that low price THEY CANT BE ANY GOOD" I never bought one and I didnt know anyone who did.. they were probably great.

    • @rautavaara9194
      @rautavaara9194 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Forgotten Weapons Ah, I probably slightly misunderstood what you were saying. Thanks for the clarification!

    • @rautavaara9194
      @rautavaara9194 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +RandyLeftHandy That sounds curious. I wonder, would some kind of collaboration with a well known American company help them gain recognition?

  • @marklepollo8546
    @marklepollo8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And ironically fast forward to 2021, CZ owns Colt!

  • @poot111111
    @poot111111 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love CZ and I owned one of these, but I hated the trigger. It had excessively long travel and even heavier weight, which hurts my heart because it was very well made otherwise and had a nice overall weight that tamed the .40S&W to feel like a pussycat. I imagine having the SA/DA option would have changed my entire perspective.
    I sold it for peanuts to get a SA/DA CZ, I had always thought the CZ and Colt models were exactly the same gun only roll marked differently and the Colts were more rare.
    Side note, rare does not always mean valuable. I found that out the hard way after thinking this was the most valuable gun in the safe for a decade and it was close to the least.
    Thank you Ian.

  • @azvoltman7335
    @azvoltman7335 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy your videos ian, thanks for the work you do!!

  • @Pprokop87
    @Pprokop87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    it looks similar to CZ-75B, well it was made by the CZ. if Colt would not freak out, they woul have one of world best handguns exclusively to be sold in US.
    and that disassembly dots and cuts, this is smart, but a bit problematic. in Glock 17 you have to know how far to pull the slide to initiate the disassembly.

  • @johntravolto4058
    @johntravolto4058 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently Ian forgot about cz's RAMI P in 40 s&w. I sent mine back to cz because of stovepipes.......
    3 months later I got a call from a fella at cz and he said listen we screwed up on the rami go on our website and pick out any 9MM you want and we'll ship it to your dealer tomorrow. Hahaha.
    Honestly I thought that was really cool of them, instead of shipping me an unreliable gun back.

  • @Edgearoth
    @Edgearoth 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, thank you for bringing all this cool content out.

  • @lavida57
    @lavida57 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny I just picked up number 6. Just thought it was different and kind of cool. Didn't no anything more. Thanks for the video.

  • @slickuae
    @slickuae 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I knew about the Double Eagle & Colt 2000 but I'd never heard of this & consider myself a Colt fan!!!!

  • @leadcounsel4869
    @leadcounsel4869 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a CZ40B, basically the same thing. Now that no mag restrictions exist at a federal level it would be a good gun for re-release in 9 or .40 with normal magazine capacity.

  • @gph2193
    @gph2193 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks strikingly like a larger version of the CZ Rami. Another very nice gun from CZ.

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's no coincidence. The designers of the Z40 also went on to design the RAMI.

  • @brianmiller9365
    @brianmiller9365 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good story...You make it a great story. Thanks & keep it up. Really look forward to these vids.

  • @LPXDproductions
    @LPXDproductions 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kind of like it i would love to see these come back with maybe like a 15-17 round 9mm Magazine as well as keeping the .40 and even making a .45 option

    • @GregsWorkshopOregon
      @GregsWorkshopOregon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not familiar enough with the line to quote an actual model, but you could get something very similar in those calibers straight from CZ themselves.

    • @BurnTheNuance
      @BurnTheNuance 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Won't get the 1911 grip, but Cz offers very nice firearms in those calibers.

  • @jacobmccandles1767
    @jacobmccandles1767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember those All American 2000 reviews:
    "Trigger is DAO, long, but incredibly smooth. The rollers really make it feel shorter than blah blah blah blah blah..."

  • @weirdscience8341
    @weirdscience8341 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cz75 in 9mm and the glock 20something with the .22 tcm conversion kit the fn feild pistol in 7.5 and the colt python are my favorite pistols the pythons gotta be in .357 mag tho so u can use 38 special to train with then when ypur in the woods you can load some hot 357 mags in there i really like the .22tcm tho fantastic round

  • @tacticalcrusader3709
    @tacticalcrusader3709 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many different ways can Colt screw a pooch?

  • @FandCCD
    @FandCCD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a coworker who had the CZ branded version of this gun (CZ40B). Was pretty neat.

  • @robertnotni3668
    @robertnotni3668 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just added a CZ 40B to my collection. Just thought it was an interesting piece.

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Guns are terrible for keeping small highly sensitive yet force-enacting electronic components working. Guns work on entirely mechanical basis and trying to just squeeze in some electronic lockout into there creates inherent problems.
    Gun firing mechanism is essentially a lever holding back a spring charged mass (hammer or striker), they work because it's all mechanical, it's all simple physics of load bearing where your finger provides all the starting energy.
    It begs questions of water tests, a glock can survive being dunked in water and mud as it has no electronic parts but if there's an electronic lockout that's not going to survive much rough treatment. Generally if a gun is considered to be unreliable when wet it's considered junk. Guns don't exist only on nice firing ranges, they exist out in the woods, on rainy days.
    And probably most worrying is carbon fouling. Carbon is highly electrically conductive and ALL firearms have some amount of carbon fouling. A small layer won't stop a mechanical gun but the tiniest amount can sabotage any micro electronic circuit.

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** [Triggered]

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +MerKorinne ???

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      SuperFunkmachine He must be joking.

    • @Gakulon
      @Gakulon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +MerKorinne Wow, you just combined BOTH the Liberal and Conservative stereotypes. Holy shit, that's amazing.

    • @warrentb1
      @warrentb1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Treblaine if you can put vacuum tubes in AA shells in world war 2 (VT fuse) you can make reliable gun electronics in 2015. Also GPS guided artillery shells and whatnot. Doing that AND having it be cheap, well that is a different matter! (Obligatory clarification) I'd agree with the following statement: technology is not always the best answer (or an answer at all) to a social problem
      Edit: Oh and of course adding any new feature will most likely make a system less reliable regardless of it being electronic or mechanical or whatever, so that is still a legit complaint with the smart gun idea.
      Also both of my examples are only used once before they explode but basically I'm saying don't be prejudiced against electronics as long as they're properly engineered!

  • @CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts
    @CenlaSelfDefenseConcepts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How Ironic CZ is currently in the process of buying colt

  • @CHMichael
    @CHMichael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder how the CEO was payed while the company was going down the drain.

    • @forrest225
      @forrest225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Quite well im sure. They always are.

  • @brackishbackwater6964
    @brackishbackwater6964 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good story on this. I tune in for content like this.

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the concept of this pistol.

  • @kCI251
    @kCI251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Z40 shoots great. I would own two if I can find another not overly priced.

  • @rotgut14
    @rotgut14 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are correct in stating NJ in having this law for a good number of years, I escaped Jersey in 02'. I remember that law well.

  • @bronzeandsteel3344
    @bronzeandsteel3344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how colt asked cz to make a pistol and they did, but literally stuck CZ in big, stylized letters on the side

  • @darkjesterxiii
    @darkjesterxiii 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would really like to have that gun. Too bad I can't afford it. A great fan of the CZ line and it's interesting to see their collaboration projects when they have them.

  • @keithsimpson2685
    @keithsimpson2685 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I'd have loved something like that probably. CZ handguns are the best mix of durability, control style, ergonomics etc. for me.

  • @northidahoguy5549
    @northidahoguy5549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    22 years later and smart guns are still a horrible idea!

  • @definebruh3416
    @definebruh3416 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Ian

  • @troy9477
    @troy9477 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comt definitely had peoblems in the 90's. I worked in a large gunshop from 93-95. One day i was putting some new handguns in tbe display wall (rubber coated barrel pegs in columns behind safety glass). One was an Ultimate Stainless Gold Cup, right before the GC became a Custom Shop only item. As was my habit, i locked it open to see how much test firing residue was in the bore and make sure there was no obstruction, excessive oil, etc. My subconscious told me something was wrong, and it took abt 2 sec for my conscious brain to process what my eyes were seeing. The gun was a smoothbore! The bore had never been touched by the rifling machine. So, it went through post machining inspection, final assembly, final inspection, and test firing like that. 2 or 3 different inspectors missed it, apparently the test firer does not print groups, and it got shipped. Holy cow. Of course it was imnediately sent back. So there was a QC problem. Unless it was deliberate sabotage by a disgruntled employee(s), it should never have happened. I think Colt went into bankruptcy reorganization within a year of that.

  • @Seeker-wq8jc
    @Seeker-wq8jc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankfully CZ didn't just let the pistol die when Colt abandoned their end of things. The Czech had a perfectly good and serviceable pistol design, and just made a couple minor tweaks to it now that Colt doesn't care, and boom. A Czech gun for those who want an American-looking and feeling gun, but functions like a CZ-75. Because they're left hung to dry with a legitimately decent pistol design that may be a bit quirky for the Czech market, but it's there, so they might as well market it.

  • @michaelogden5958
    @michaelogden5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very amusing story. Thanks!

  • @ToastyMozart
    @ToastyMozart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:25 I never really understood the logic of that fear. Designing a weapon to be able to lock down remotely would _hugely_ complicate the design of the electronics, require some form of remote antenna, the logic circuitry would need to be able to handle such instructions (rather than "IF(rfid read == [auth code]) release safety), if they had some feature like that people would find out pretty damn quickly. It's hardly SOP.
    The reliability concern seems more valid though, I'd imagine most people looking for a defensive weapon would prefer a fail-deadly system than a fail-secure.

    • @Davidautofull
      @Davidautofull 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ToastyMozart and now you can buy an AR unfinished lower, drill it and make it an AR-15, dont have to put a serial number on it and keep it a year and sell it then make another.

    • @Regolith86
      @Regolith86 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +ToastyMozart Given that the Armatix pistol (the latest attempt at a smart gun) has that feature built in (it's in their patent application), I'd say that fear isn't exactly misplaced.

    • @wastool
      @wastool 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what about jamming the signal so that the receiver on the gun couldn't recognize the signal. like what the military uses to prevent IEDs from being remotely detonated.

  • @rickhigson3881
    @rickhigson3881 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful information,thanks!

  • @aredman22
    @aredman22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful gun. I love my CZ75, but I think that is even more attractive than the similar sized CZ75 Compact. CZ should reintroduce it in 9mm.

  • @bobtyor69
    @bobtyor69 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I saw a add. For these cz/colt gun in a add from Cdnn. Years ago at least 8 years. They were wholesale them out. I don't think they had any colt marks on them.
    If rember they were 230-270$ or some thing like that

  • @BurnTheNuance
    @BurnTheNuance 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love Cz, always said they would out last their competition, never knew they teamed up with Colt. It might piece some people off but Colt is a dying breed. Don't get me wrong I love their old wheel guns and their history, but they haven't came out with anything of interest in years.

  • @finalfantasy50
    @finalfantasy50 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a video going through all sorts of different caliber rounds (9mm .45 ACP, .50 AE etc etc) on a shooting range? Going through specialized ammo and how it works (Birdshot, Slug, Dragons Breath, Hollow Point etc etc) would also be pretty cool.

  • @MrPelcat
    @MrPelcat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They could try and produce this pistol today.

  • @phileas007
    @phileas007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Is Colt still in business today?

    • @ForgottenWeapons
      @ForgottenWeapons  8 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      +phileas007 Yes, remarkably.

    • @taragwendolyn
      @taragwendolyn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +phileas007 They're still selling weapons to the US military, as well as the Brits, the Canadians, the Netherlands, and some police forces.

    • @phileas007
      @phileas007 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Tara FitzGerald ok, are these weapons any good?

    • @kainhall
      @kainhall 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      +phileas007 the ar 15 craze probably saved them.....

    • @BurnTheNuance
      @BurnTheNuance 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +kain hall Lol! No doubt.

  • @MacEwanMouse
    @MacEwanMouse 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Go figure, randomly check the vids page and see a new video.
    Score.

  • @ragutis21
    @ragutis21 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank your this video, very educational.