th-cam.com/video/t2c-X8HiBng/w-d-xo.html monty python constitutional peasants. The explorers were funny, tough hard dudes but still funny if everyone keeps rediscovering america and thinks They are not in a dark age but some super old maps make you wonder. Im not down with any alien departures in history but we could have done all this over and over 0 aliens needed. Then we are like the chick in the python skit, thinking it was a commune or something. Speaking of that... tennessee oklahoma and some others are in for a reckoning, the country folk think its america but national heritage areas and china have other ideas. It wont be fema or land management doing land grabs it will be the park service federalizing anything related to history or water and minerals. The whole of tennessee is federal land and no one knows, not even the leaders. They can legally scoot you off anytime they need to make a valley a lake for hydro and the greens.
I remember reading this book and using it as a final essay in my American History 1st Semester in H.S. Ohhh man, the book was hard to read for me at the time. The vivid descriptions of Cabeza de Vaca's men, dying little by little. But I loved how this Spaniard learned how to communicate, and live among the Natives, even making a profit from it. There were a few passages of his accounts that make me wonder. His account of a tribe of Natives in the Texan desert, who had nothing to eat but Cactus Prickly Pears. The entire tribe would make a big hole on the ground, make a juice out of the smashed prickly pears, mix the juice with water and desert sand and dirt, and then the entire tribe--women, children, and the elder drank from the filled-up desert juice hole with hollow reeds until their stomachs were so swollen with the muddy slurp, that nobody in the village could get on their feet. I also remember the weird passage where he was made a slave in a Native village I think it was by an Arizonian tribe. Every time he tried to escape, no matter how fast or far he ran, he would come back again to the same village. There, he witnessed the Shaman doing a kind of voodoo ritual on him. He would tie a desert lizard by the neck on a stick, and, no matter how hard the lizard would try to free itself from the cord tied around its neck, it would end up running in circles, ending up in the same place where it started. It was an interesting and harrowing book to read. It is just incredibly remarkable what a few band of explorers did to cross the Southern part of a then-unknown wildland, only come upon the other end, and return to Europe, in order to tell a story worth a thousand future generations to hear.
I wish they would teach this in History calss in middles schools. I never learned about it when I was young. I am barely learnign about this now. It's an anamzing story.
The journals of Cabeza de Vaca by Donnelly Publishers Lake side books is a must to read. You got a snippet of his seven years journey with the few hospitable Indians he met. Most were treacherous and he spent much of his time as a slave before escaping with two or three survivors. I recommend this series of books.
I love this guy. "I'm not gonna waste an ounce of my breath telling you all something that should be widely known and is common sense. I don't care how important or interesting it might be. If it's the common and logical outcome of our actions then theirs no point in me saying it. You already know. Even if you don't. You do."
Jesus I say basically the same thing daily to all the brainwashed/conditioned zombies around me, who have had their instincts neutered, or who have been trained to hate their instincts, and thus themselves. They know deep down, or they did know at one time. That is the condition the average Westerner. We all know who’s responsible. I can’t say whom, because people have been trained to be repulsed by, and to reject truth. But truth is still truth. The only way they’ll see and accept fact is when they have had enough of the bullshit, and decide to simply open their eyes. That’s why I hate people lol. Stupidity from the bottom up. Only a small percentage can see the self evident. There is one race however, where stupidity is innate, and will never fade. The answer to that should be self-evident too. “But all lives matter,” so I should ‘t be too harsh lol. Fact remains fact in any case, unfortunately in groups, belief is as almost as solid as actual fact. And finally the abridged version of my ramblings - We’re fucked.
@@Richard-1776 even better lol, nowdays "modern science" (aka state controlled narrative) says 'there is no race' 😆. Dog breeds that were selectively bred for only maybe 1,000 years are openly acknowledged as unequal in every facet and yet humans who have evolved on opposite sides of the entire planet for tens of thousands of years to the point they are visually distinct at over 500 meters are "absolutely equal" and "no such thing as race" 😆
...So which is the objectively superior breed of dog? Breeds of dog have been selectively bred over many thousands of years for various traits, humans for specific purposes, by and large, have not gone through this same process. A native Tibetan might be better adapted to higher elevations but that doesn't make them superior in other areas.
@@VoicesofthePast Yeah but don't take it at face value. Although it's kinda true, it's more not true than fact. There is a service that goes to Supai, AZ. But it's not the Pony Express. It's nothing to do with the Pony Express. It's just another very rural USPS route. Not trying to be a killjoy haha, but your channel is factual and people must know facts-that doesn't take away from the fact that the postal route to Supai is fucking cooooool anyway.
Imagine being one of the people first exploring North America (or anywhere really). What it must have been like to take such a leap of faith into the unknown. Encountering native tribes, new flora and fauna, many dangers and wonders. Those generations had balls of steel.
@@sidobx they had the choice to stay at home and work a normal life. it was those with balls of absolute steel who went into the unknown. don't attempt to discredit them
@@highonlife2323 you have a great imagination. 15-16 century in Europe was hell for the poor. Maybe yes some of them had big balls but because they need have to!
I found a paperback book with a lurid cover, "Apalachee Gold" by Frank Slaughter. I read it and that was my introduction to the tale of Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca in the New World. As this was historical fiction, there was an invented "love rectangle" between Cabeza de Vaca, a flirtatious woman, her practical sister, and a bombastic warrior. Looking back, this tale mixes fact with fiction like Michael Crichton did much later in "Eaters of the Dead."
@HeathenLogic 😈 "Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca" was as male as Arnold Schwarzenegger. (Spanish women of the era stayed in "civilized" areas and didn't go exploring the wilderness.)
If I don't have a good background on the subject I wont read a book like that. It risks putting fiction in your head as fact. If you talk history with people you often find people who have pulled their history from a movie and swear its actual history. I miss out on a lot of good stories and entertainment that way but oh well.
I read the book several years ago. It's a real page-turner, as De Vaca has a real flair for writing. What makes it so much more entertaining is the fact it's all true, retrieved from his vivid memory. What an adventure! a true odysessy
that's a really meaningless thing to say. identity only comes from excluding others. that's why you can't build an identity or a nation or society on inclusion. do so. and be exterminated
So many real stories like this, like the battle of stalingrad where where entire divisions, thousands of men fighting together and each other, were wiped out. Reality is stranger than fiction.
Cabeza de Vaca would lead later another expedition to what is now Paraguay and surrounding areas and, interestingly, reported that, in those early days of gunpowder weapons, he used the muskets for shock... the crosbows for actual killing.
The musket they had were matchlock, extremely bad performance in rough condition since you had to keep the match lit, it was infamously not able to shoot when it rained.
@@pinochets1fan177 - But they did shoot, what they did not achieve so much was hitting the target (those guns with round bullets and no spiral in the barrel were very imprecise). It was for that they use crossbows, much more efficient at the task of hitting the target.
@@LuisAldamiz The accuracy of a crossbow is amazing. if you mount one in a fixed position get ready to hit your last fired bolt. The romans used a ballista (pretty much a crossbow) at Alesia to pick off people who would poke their head up at a certain spot. Hits the same spot every time. Prevented the Gauls from using that spot.
Excellent narration as always. Love hearing the direct thoughts of ppl from the past. Really gives insight into their mindset then, both individually & cultural for their time period & origin.
I fail to see how this miserably describes future United States but it’s literally an epic unbelievable and immersive what a journey it must have been I’m surprised we don’t talk about him and that expedition more
that confused me too, but we misinterpreted it. what he describes is the future united states - the territory he explores will eventually become the US
I think he forgot to write 'the' as in "First European Gives (Miserable) Description of 'the' Future United States" or maybe even more explicit "First European Gives (Miserable) Description of 'what would be the' Future United States".
I remember learning about Cabeza de Vaca in middle school history class, though I have a feeling that most of what I learned was probably pretty apocryphal.
I remember learning about him as well in US History class. We also learned about him in my Texas History class since his route took him through my state. I don't remember learning about why his name was Cabeza de Vaca, I always thought it was a strange name. I know now why he had that name though.
@@Twisted_Logic Hmm, maybe it was just in Texas history that I learned about him then. It's been a while! Lol. I looked it up and supposedly they asked the natives where the gold they were wearing came from and they pointed north and said "Apalachee". The El Dorado myth came from South America.
@@PrestonGarvey-j3g His family used cow heads as weapons in a war against the Muslims hundreds of years before. Guess they won the battle and a new nickname which became a formal name with time.
You can travel that same route today and the biggest hardship is enduring that awful deodorizer smell that they use at every rest stop and gas station restroom.
Great video! I read a biography about Cabeza Devaca, and his travels through the southwestern parts of North America. It sounded almost like hell on Earth, at points, but unbelievably, he made it, and got to give his account. I would have liked to know what the Native American groups he encountered thought of the Europeans, and also the accounts of the other 3 men who survived the Narvaez expedition. Thank you for posting!
Un México we make a movie of "cabeza de vaca" Is a old movie of 80s seek for her here in TH-cam Im see in vhs whit my father in Blockbuster when are a kid So Is a old movie 🙃
"Galveston island, North Texas" I suppose it's on the the northern half of the COAST, but we don't call that "North Texas". It's actually in the Southern half of the State as a whole (though we don't usually call that place "South Texas", either, preferring "East Texas", "Gulf Coast", "Coastal Plains", or just saying it's right next to Houston.)
@@SnarlaRae One of his ancestors was a shepherd who helped the Christian armies defeat the invaders in the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa. He marked a path with the skulls of dead cows to guide the army of Alfonso VIII.
Cabeza de Vaca was probably not his real name, he most likely used it as a nickname to describe what the comment above my comment said why he got the name.
Yeah, so strange too that the volcano in La Palma exploded in Cabeza de Vaca and that 500 years ago Colombus parted from these Islands to “discover” the New World
That's true...It's written that in the spring break of 1529, the first traveling topless scholars of the northern tribes brought a great abundance of titties to the first settlers of Daytona Beach.
I love these accounts of the beginnings slow and perilous conquest. It is amazing that they never once _doubted_ God's will behind these missions, despite the toil, misery and death.
"I had to work everyday until my hands bleed and turned to smuggling in order to survive... But the worst part was when I saw two gay dudes man!" hahahaxD
Degeneracy was just openly called out and mocked. Survival aspect of society still existed in the old world way still. Such transgressions had no place.
@@TTS-TP it went against their theological views, as it seems to yours. But you don't live in the 16th century so there's nothing you can do about it lol.
I read de Vaca's edited account in the book 'A Land so Strange', and thanks very much, VotP, for the refresher. There is so much more to this story. But this video, combined with the comment thread, was hours of entertainment. Very amusing to see people flinging accusations, damning whole cultures for actions long since judged unacceptable by all (in the Western world at least) and & claiming victimhood in the name of suffering felt generations ago. Interesting also was the beginnings of the backlash coming at those who would drive wedges between people, rather than come together & move forward. If only the retroactive do-gooders had a fraction of that concern & passion for the miserable people alive in the world today!
Wow this was incredible! I'm surprised this is the first I remember hearing about this guy! I'm gonna start telling people about this lol. Thank you for the knowledge! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)
I love history. governor pushing company to do something against the advice of expert opinion. technologies change, so we think that dark times went to past, and somehow we are immune to mistakes, but people stay the same, and nothing really changes. thank you for your work dear Voices of the Past, greetings from Lithuania
Aloha Lithuania 🌺. If u r interested in North American history, u might read "1491" . The year before Europeans came here, the author poses that until then the indigenous people stocked sweet waters with fish and planted an abundance of orchards and agricultural lands....the reason why the invaders were able to survive on the "fruits of the land" was the same reason the Indians did. The Europeans benefited from others' labor without knowing to give credit.
The four part documentary series by the BBC, _Conquistadors,_ hosted by Michael Wood follows in Cabeza de Vaca's footsteps. Cabeza de Vaca's journey is more than physical, it is an inner journey too where he grows to fully empathize with the indigenous people he originally wanted to subjugate, like Cortes and Pizarro had done elsewhere in the Americas.
What a life he had. I read that he was removed from his post in South America and arrested because of his viewpoints and the way he did things. He apparently argued that the Spanish colonists should deal fairly with the natives. Some of the other officials disagreed and wanted to use them for labor and didn't want to treat them well, so they stirred up opposition to his rule. Not sure which exact viewpoints or policies he was removed and arrested for though, just that he was much more sympathetic to the natives, sympathy which he must have gained by living closely with the other natives for years.
English men and their anti-Spanish propaganda never ends. Cabeza de Vaca set out to arrest Cortes. The gringos are practically loosing their country but still can't see through the agit-prop.
@@fuferito you should learn more about Spanish history though, because spain did pass laws to protect those natives that were subjects of the crown. Conquistador means conqueror not genocider
Brilliant work. Amazing channel. Your delivery and narrations are second to none. History, the Bible, many old things, sound best in the British accent.
Cabeza de Vaca mentioned a particular village, which was located next to a river with a horseshoe bend. that village would later become San Antonio, Texas.
The legend of the bearded man and the entrails removed almost sounds like someone performed an appendectomy on one of the Natives and the legend evolved out of that.
@@MrTrees77 I'm willing to bet that some people back then did such things as appendectomies. If, for instance, you've ever heard of the blonde mummies of the Tarim Basin, which are thousands of years old, at least one specimen had surgery performed seemingly to remove sand from his lungs. Much ancient knowledge has been lost to time. Our ancestors were just as thoughtful and creative as we are, so this shouldn't surprise us.
Strange ????,, it was full of self reliance resourcefull people, groups. I tell u what strange. Newcomers allowing a handfull of fascist monarquies to treat everybody else like dirt force them to do despicable acts and live like peasants "were they came from" ( wich is exactly the same place as the others )
Interesting that enuchs are mentioned as a tradition there. The castratii of the catholic church were also recorded as being unusually tall and with big barrel chests. It seems to be a side effect of castration a young age. Captain Cook also noted homosexual relations among pacific islanders that was accepted without question. Fascinating.
The "bad thing" story within the account is a bit longer and mentions it showing them he came from a fissure in the ground. Said he dressed as a man and other times a woman, said he appeared during ceremonious times mostly. Said they never saw him eat or drink anything nor would he take any food they offered. Said he could flip their homes up in the air very high and crash them down with seemingly little effort. Very interesting hollow earth theory alien stuff. The whole account is more in depth than this video obviously, but it's well worth the read. Good video.
Alexis de Tocqueville once wrote, in Democracy in America, that the Indigenous of North America would go hungry to show hospitality to their guests. Now I know where he learned of that.
@@bc2578 There are xenophobes everywhere. I know that the Leftists like to pretend that white people are somehow special for coveting property, but there is even an Ojibwe origin myth that says that the creator flooded the whole world because everyone was fighting over such things as hunting grounds. Everyone has two wolves inside them.
@@1mag1nat1vename Sure. Even in this video, he admits that these tribes weren't even trading with each other because of so much hostility with all of their surrounding neighboring tribes......And even if Whites "coveted" the land, the "natives" always covet what we have to trade for it. So that makes them just as greedy as us. And often, the goods the Indians most wanted was guns to kill neighboring tribes that they had been murdering long before Europeans came on the scene.
Just a small correction, the text at 9:14 says Galveston Island is in North Texas, but it's actually in Southeast Texas on the coast. Not a big deal at all though, great video.
In the Wikipedia map it's located in NE Texas, not far from Louisiana. There may be two places with the same name? In any case I'm sure it was not called Galveston (an English name) yet, so there may be some confusion. Also "Apalache" means Apalachee in West Florida coast, not the Apalache Mts. as wrongly suggested by the map.
@@LuisAldamiz Also possible we're not all using the same map of Texas. Similar to when he thanks God to be in Mexico, he may likely refer to the literal valley of Mexico, not the modern republic.
@@maxpulido4268 - Maybe. I found the maps in the video somewhat misleading and had to go to Wikipedia to check the actual journey (Apalachee in West Florida and not the Apalachian Mountains, barely mentioned if at all the journey to Arizona and Sinaloa, etc.) In those days the borders of Mexico were not like today, in fact it had no borders because Mexico was, if anything, the country of the Mexica people, i.e. roughly the Aztec Empire, or alternatively Ciudad de México (Tenochtitlan was too hard to pronounce for the Spanish it seems), the land that would become Mexico (the short-lived Mexican Empire) was called "New Spain" and included all the Castile-controlled mainland North America, from Costa Rica to imprecise borders well inside of what is now the USA. In the days of this exploration there was no "Mexico" other than a region in what is now Central Mexico or its capital city.
I love these stories, I love hearing voices from the past echo through time We're hearing the words written by a man who lived half a millenia ago He lived in a completely different world, but he saw and experienced the world exactly as we do
I usually watch your videos at least two times when they first come out. I hope you make some longer ones like you have in the past I really enjoy listening to those while I'm at work. The narrator has such a good voice... Whoever is narrating should really consider trying to do something more with their voice :)
If these natives could have ceased their fighting and warring they would have been more prosperous and been able to resist the colonialists that came later. The warfare stopped them from benefitting from trade and alliances.
My favorite explorer...I don't share his views, for the most part, I mean its hundreds of years later, but he truly was remarkable, for his survival instincts, and faith
Remember Charles the 5th was a Moor! He's shown as a black boy on the Inca or Mayan kings list! And also remember in the book America from the 1500s shows black Indians living in Roman-Greco buildings and eating people
I read Cabeza de Vaca when I was a kid. Its title was “La Relación que dio Álvar Núñez Cabeça de Vaca de lo acaescido en las Indias en la armada donde iva por governador Pámphilo de Narbáez desde el año de veinta y siete hasta el año de treinta y seis que bolvió a Sevilla con tres de su compagnía” 😀😀😀
Has he not done the Captivity of Mary Rowlandson yet? That’s probably the most famous American Puritan narrative I can think of off the top of my head.
So they arrived with ship, travelled several hundred miles inwards on the orders of the governor, and then decided to build a ship on another shore instead of going back? Sounds like they needed a better plan before setting out..
These folks had no idea of what trying to survive in a Wilderness of Florida would entail. Coming from such a different climate & environment it must have been horrifying to realize the danger they'd placed themselves in. They would have been fine, stranded similarly in the wilds of Spain. Having experienced Florida myself, it is crazy to me that anyone at all EVER settled there - except for the central farmland area. Hot! Wet! Swampy! Hurricanes! Alligators! Fuck that! Always wondered if the natives there had been run off of better lands to the north, or else why stay there?
The origin of the Cabeza de Vaca name has been ascribed traditionally to Alvar Nunez's supposed ancestor Martin Alhaja. Alhaja is a legendary shepherd who reportedly helped the Spanish Christians win an important battle against the Moors at Las Novas de Tolosa in 1212. The story is that Alhaja marked an unguarded mountain pass with the skull of a cow, which allowed the Spanish troops to find a route to the top of the mountain and defeat the Moors in a surprise attack. Alhaja and his descendants were awarded with the title of Cabeza de Vaca. Recent scholarship has discounted the Alhaja story and traces Alvar Nunez's lineage to thirteenth century Spanish nobleman Inez Perez Cabeza de Vaca. The actual history of the name's origin is unknown.
i love these videos but please forgive my quibble... Galveston is most certainly is not and is not considered as North Texas by any current Texan not anyone familiar with the geography of Texas. It would actually be considered South East Texas by many. But mostly, in my experience, it is just considered like as, Galveston, the sandy island next to Houston on the coast of Texas, without much thought given to north, south, east, or west. Although, yes, I suppose it it six or seven hours north of South Padre. Still not north Texas though!
The prejudice the Spanish had against indigenous people is palpable in this account. I mean they literally kidnapped 4 people then begged them to take them to their homes because they were dying of hunger and thirst, then were greeted with open arms and open hands and their first thought was "oh no, theyre going to sacrifice us".
This is an awesome first hand account...I have a large stone artifact collection from PA...and I've been researching the Susquehannocks' many of the artifacts I find from the more recent layers seem to be connected to them....The most interesting part of this video to me was the description of the tall muscular Male with mutilated genitalia or for better terms castrated...they were treated as women and lived with the men as such but were forced to perform all the hardest of tasks...The Susquehannock we're refered to as the Minque or munsee or minsee ...or the tribe without a penis ...They were described as viscous warriors of gigantic stature...I believe this tribe was half Iroquois and the other lineage was that from peoples fleeing The Tennessee valleys the Adena and Hopewell cultures ..which I believe we're connected directly to the Mayan civilization as both major groups collapsed simultaneously ...I believe around this time an uprising against the rulling class occured most likely brought on by natural disaster....I believe the southern tribes and the tribes of the Mississippi Valley fleed the collapse of the Mound city and some of them assimilated with a group of mohawks creating the unique tribe known as The Susquehannock....a distant Mayan connection ...this account really helps add another first hand account that supports the descriptions
16:42 sounds pretty much like that fake surgery thing where the "surgeon" has a fake thumb full of blood and they pull out a chicken liver or something like that
When the story/journal entry said that "He wept with us" was that kind of in the eyes of God as they prayed on, or did they all just kind of tell their tales, and cry because of how bad things had sucked for them? I'm asking because they all went through some hard times that would have made me a shivering mess, some of it, and they did it day in and day out. Like, really, is the writer talking about just having a good cry? There is a full year of slavery, that the author just kind of glossed over, and the skin and bones stuff too, and the guy writing it was like, I don't want to upset anyone, so let's leave most of the journey out, because I don't want to make the reader cry.
Cabeza de Vaca: “I’ll spare you the details, it was so miserable I don’t even wanna explain it.” Also Cabeza de Vaca: “We were emaciated, we had to eat our horses, we had to work ourselves to death…”
@@lucasblaise11 A group on another raft, separated from Cabezs de Vaca's group, apparently resorted to cannibalism. The Indians were appalled. Makes one doubt tales of Karankawa cannibalism
The part about emasculated or even (for that former reason) mutilated tall and exceedingly strong men seems to me to be some more or less accurate description of some hereditary hormonal disorder caused by some degree of inbreeding within relatively small tribes. Their tribesmen couldn't have possibly known the real reasons nor nature of that disorder and apparently tended to connect the more or less undefined male characteristics of their outer organs with effemination and - coming to some poor conclusions - started to exploit them in the ways this internet platform doesn't allow me to call by its name. The poor dudes were in a precarious situation within their societal structures - (clearly enough patriarchal, which is proven by some other parts of this relation) and had to put up with it and make the best of what nature gave them.
it was more likely castrated slaves. people get really tall if you remove their genitals because their bones don't get the hormone signals to stop growing. this was common back then
@@007kingifrit these class of people were a combination of being genetically hormonally affected and/or castrated; he describes some as being emasculated in that manner.
@@007kingifrit castration during childhood does cause greater height, but how could they be more muscular and stronger without testosterone, if anything that means they had higher than normal test levels, but had some other hormonal deficiency that didnt let them get hard, so they would be treated as non-males and some would cut off their shlongs because they thought they didnt need them, but must have still kept their balls, otherwise they would be weaker.
I remember dating a beautiful girl in high school. She was great in every way except that she despised history and would not even give it a chance. I broke uo with her after trying to convert her. She just looked so unattractive to me once i knew that she had no curiosity of our past.
If you think you have it tough in life because they ran out of whatever at the store and you're inconvenienced for a few moments in time, please listen to the first ten minutes of this account of exploration to put things in perspective.
Queen Chief Warhorse Gilliam of the Chakta in Louisiana was right. At the beginning of the video look where Florida, the Land of Flowers is. From the Mississippi to Georgia!
They landed in Tampa Bay and traveled for all the swamps westwards to Texas, then by the deserts to Arizona, no wonder they suffered so much.
Those people were hard. You couldn’t pay 99.99% of the population to wander through Florida swamp TODAY lmfaooo
@@Talpiot8200 Only four survivors out of the original 300 in the expedition so your percentage is almost correct.
Sounds like a midday field trip for the aborigenal true native locals, before the murderous invation quaker hicks land theft
@@Talpiot8200 But meth heads do it all the time for free.
th-cam.com/video/t2c-X8HiBng/w-d-xo.html monty python constitutional peasants. The explorers were funny, tough hard dudes but still funny if everyone keeps rediscovering america and thinks They are not in a dark age but some super old maps make you wonder. Im not down with any alien departures in history but we could have done all this over and over 0 aliens needed. Then we are like the chick in the python skit, thinking it was a commune or something. Speaking of that... tennessee oklahoma and some others are in for a reckoning, the country folk think its america but national heritage areas and china have other ideas. It wont be fema or land management doing land grabs it will be the park service federalizing anything related to history or water and minerals. The whole of tennessee is federal land and no one knows, not even the leaders. They can legally scoot you off anytime they need to make a valley a lake for hydro and the greens.
I remember reading this book and using it as a final essay in my American History 1st Semester in H.S. Ohhh man, the book was hard to read for me at the time. The vivid descriptions of Cabeza de Vaca's men, dying little by little.
But I loved how this Spaniard learned how to communicate, and live among the Natives, even making a profit from it. There were a few passages of his accounts that make me wonder.
His account of a tribe of Natives in the Texan desert, who had nothing to eat but Cactus Prickly Pears. The entire tribe would make a big hole on the ground, make a juice out of the smashed prickly pears, mix the juice with water and desert sand and dirt, and then the entire tribe--women, children, and the elder drank from the filled-up desert juice hole with hollow reeds until their stomachs were so swollen with the muddy slurp, that nobody in the village could get on their feet. I also remember the weird passage where he was made a slave in a Native village I think it was by an Arizonian tribe. Every time he tried to escape, no matter how fast or far he ran, he would come back again to the same village. There, he witnessed the Shaman doing a kind of voodoo ritual on him. He would tie a desert lizard by the neck on a stick, and, no matter how hard the lizard would try to free itself from the cord tied around its neck, it would end up running in circles, ending up in the same place where it started. It was an interesting and harrowing book to read. It is just incredibly remarkable what a few band of explorers did to cross the Southern part of a then-unknown wildland, only come upon the other end, and return to Europe, in order to tell a story worth a thousand future generations to hear.
WTF bro. All that sounds like a sci-fi horror mixed native american themes.
What is the name of the book??
I wish they would teach this in History calss in middles schools. I never learned about it when I was young. I am barely learnign about this now. It's an anamzing story.
that’s heavy man
@@jportillo297Harry Potter: Chamber of Secrets
The journals of Cabeza de Vaca by Donnelly Publishers Lake side books is a must to read. You got a snippet of his seven years journey with the few hospitable Indians he met. Most were treacherous and he spent much of his time as a slave before escaping with two or three survivors. I recommend this series of books.
The video is literally from the book you're talking about 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Kia El everyone had slaves fam
@K n It's sarcasm lol
Thank you for the heads up
@K n sexist racist mysoginist liar sexist racist
I love this guy. "I'm not gonna waste an ounce of my breath telling you all something that should be widely known and is common sense. I don't care how important or interesting it might be. If it's the common and logical outcome of our actions then theirs no point in me saying it. You already know. Even if you don't. You do."
I think it might have triggered PTSD in him...being lost at sea with no water
Jesus I say basically the same thing daily to all the brainwashed/conditioned zombies around me, who have had their instincts neutered, or who have been trained to hate their instincts, and thus themselves. They know deep down, or they did know at one time. That is the condition the average Westerner. We all know who’s responsible. I can’t say whom, because people have been trained to be repulsed by, and to reject truth. But truth is still truth. The only way they’ll see and accept fact is when they have had enough of the bullshit, and decide to simply open their eyes. That’s why I hate people lol. Stupidity from the bottom up. Only a small percentage can see the self evident. There is one race however, where stupidity is innate, and will never fade. The answer to that should be self-evident too. “But all lives matter,” so I should ‘t be too harsh lol. Fact remains fact in any case, unfortunately in groups, belief is as almost as solid as actual fact. And finally the abridged version of my ramblings - We’re fucked.
@@Richard-1776 hey buddy. I know what you're talking about and I agree ;^)
@@Richard-1776 even better lol, nowdays "modern science" (aka state controlled narrative) says 'there is no race' 😆. Dog breeds that were selectively bred for only maybe 1,000 years are openly acknowledged as unequal in every facet and yet humans who have evolved on opposite sides of the entire planet for tens of thousands of years to the point they are visually distinct at over 500 meters are "absolutely equal" and "no such thing as race" 😆
...So which is the objectively superior breed of dog? Breeds of dog have been selectively bred over many thousands of years for various traits, humans for specific purposes, by and large, have not gone through this same process. A native Tibetan might be better adapted to higher elevations but that doesn't make them superior in other areas.
About your ad: the Pony Express is actually still in operation. They deliver the mail to the village of Supai, AZ.
Excellent fact
@@VoicesofthePast Yeah but don't take it at face value. Although it's kinda true, it's more not true than fact. There is a service that goes to Supai, AZ. But it's not the Pony Express. It's nothing to do with the Pony Express. It's just another very rural USPS route. Not trying to be a killjoy haha, but your channel is factual and people must know facts-that doesn't take away from the fact that the postal route to Supai is fucking cooooool anyway.
@@just_dec god i bet that's a cakewalk compared to my daily 700 mailbox slog
@@dudeidontcare3430 How much drugs do you think you deliver? lol.
@@dudeidontcare3430 I haven't read about it in forever but I think it's like a two day hike with a donkey through the Grand Canyon or smth lol
Having read his whole account, what you read only scratchs the surface of the whole ordeal he endured.
You know the name of this book? Might buy it
@@zeus0710 it's noted in the description.
Exactly, the natives knew what was going on. The Spanish did not.
@@zeus0710 A Land so Strange.
Imagine being one of the people first exploring North America (or anywhere really). What it must have been like to take such a leap of faith into the unknown. Encountering native tribes, new flora and fauna, many dangers and wonders. Those generations had balls of steel.
Or they just had not much choice…
@@sidobx they had the choice to stay at home and work a normal life. it was those with balls of absolute steel who went into the unknown. don't attempt to discredit them
The first Europeans to reach the Americas were the Vikings. You were coming from Greenland, and it was hell there. It would have been a paradise.
@@highonlife2323 you have a great imagination. 15-16 century in Europe was hell for the poor. Maybe yes some of them had big balls but because they need have to!
How can someone say "explore" a place alredy inhabited, specialy with aid of the locals
I found a paperback book with a lurid cover, "Apalachee Gold" by Frank Slaughter. I read it and that was my introduction to the tale of Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca in the New World. As this was historical fiction, there was an invented "love rectangle" between Cabeza de Vaca, a flirtatious woman, her practical sister, and a bombastic warrior. Looking back, this tale mixes fact with fiction like Michael Crichton did much later in "Eaters of the Dead."
@HeathenLogic 😈 "Alvar Nunez Cabeza de Vaca" was as male as Arnold Schwarzenegger. (Spanish women of the era stayed in "civilized" areas and didn't go exploring the wilderness.)
If I don't have a good background on the subject I wont read a book like that. It risks putting fiction in your head as fact. If you talk history with people you often find people who have pulled their history from a movie and swear its actual history.
I miss out on a lot of good stories and entertainment that way but oh well.
Something similar happened to me when I crossed over the Northern frontier into Scotland.
I read the book several years ago. It's a real page-turner, as De Vaca has a real flair for writing. What makes it so much more entertaining is the fact it's all true, retrieved from his vivid memory. What an adventure! a true odysessy
What book?
I feel like that is a common characteristic of people with power, being able to speak eloquently. wasnt cdv royalty in spain or something?
What is the name of the book? Cabeza de Vaca's Adventures in the Unknown Interior of America?
@@AlotOfSunInHeaven
Yes
@@citrusblast4372It’s called being educated.
I love reading and learning about people in the past, despite our differences, at the end of the day, we’re all human have similar problems
That’s what I keep trying to tell everybody!
that's a really meaningless thing to say. identity only comes from excluding others. that's why you can't build an identity or a nation or society on inclusion.
do so. and be exterminated
We are all men. As in mankind.
His account reads like a fictional story but it all happened
So many real stories like this, like the battle of stalingrad where where entire divisions, thousands of men fighting together and each other, were wiped out. Reality is stranger than fiction.
And then some
Except they never had or cared to use a meassuring tape, and non biased acounts, and the usual torches mayhem etc
Cabeza de Vaca would lead later another expedition to what is now Paraguay and surrounding areas and, interestingly, reported that, in those early days of gunpowder weapons, he used the muskets for shock... the crosbows for actual killing.
Makes sense considering the lack of accuracy at any practical ranges.
The musket they had were matchlock, extremely bad performance in rough condition since you had to keep the match lit, it was infamously not able to shoot when it rained.
@@pinochets1fan177 - But they did shoot, what they did not achieve so much was hitting the target (those guns with round bullets and no spiral in the barrel were very imprecise). It was for that they use crossbows, much more efficient at the task of hitting the target.
@@LuisAldamiz The accuracy of a crossbow is amazing. if you mount one in a fixed position get ready to hit your last fired bolt. The romans used a ballista (pretty much a crossbow) at Alesia to pick off people who would poke their head up at a certain spot. Hits the same spot every time. Prevented the Gauls from using that spot.
I’m just learning this in depth for the first time, so pardon my ignorance. Did Cabesa de Vaca ever marry, or have children?
Excellent narration as always. Love hearing the direct thoughts of ppl from the past. Really gives insight into their mindset then, both individually & cultural for their time period & origin.
I know right, it's the best form of history, I wish history class in middle and high school a lot more of these.
He is a very capable narrator
What a great way to spend a Sunday evening...this channel is a gem
I fail to see how this miserably describes future United States but it’s literally an epic unbelievable and immersive what a journey it must have been I’m surprised we don’t talk about him and that expedition more
that confused me too, but we misinterpreted it. what he describes is the future united states - the territory he explores will eventually become the US
like when we talk about the second punic war and say “now in modern tunisia”
Maybe because the fiat world order dont want us to know they killed super nice people because of western greed?
I had the same reaction
I think he forgot to write 'the' as in "First European Gives (Miserable) Description of 'the' Future United States"
or maybe even more explicit "First European Gives (Miserable) Description of 'what would be the' Future United States".
I remember learning about Cabeza de Vaca in middle school history class, though I have a feeling that most of what I learned was probably pretty apocryphal.
I remember learning about him as well in US History class. We also learned about him in my Texas History class since his route took him through my state. I don't remember learning about why his name was Cabeza de Vaca, I always thought it was a strange name. I know now why he had that name though.
@@dangerdan2592 Yeah, Texas history is where I learned about him as well. I'm pretty sure I also learned that he was searching for El Dorado, though.
@@Twisted_Logic Hmm, maybe it was just in Texas history that I learned about him then. It's been a while! Lol. I looked it up and supposedly they asked the natives where the gold they were wearing came from and they pointed north and said "Apalachee". The El Dorado myth came from South America.
@@dangerdan2592 maybe he had a Cow's head in his house?
@@PrestonGarvey-j3g His family used cow heads as weapons in a war against the Muslims hundreds of years before. Guess they won the battle and a new nickname which became a formal name with time.
You can travel that same route today and the biggest hardship is enduring that awful deodorizer smell that they use at every rest stop and gas station restroom.
Now that's miserable
Great video!
I read a biography about Cabeza Devaca, and his travels through the southwestern parts of North America. It sounded almost like hell on Earth, at points, but unbelievably, he made it, and got to give his account. I would have liked to know what the Native American groups he encountered thought of the Europeans, and also the accounts of the other 3 men who survived the Narvaez expedition.
Thank you for posting!
This needs to be made into a movie. (Same for all the other videos on this channel)
Conquistadores Adventum-for somebody interested in exploration,navigation it's pure gold.
You could rent apocalypto.. for a complete mind wash rinse dry, no need to wait
Un México we make a movie of "cabeza de vaca" Is a old movie of 80s seek for her here in TH-cam
Im see in vhs whit my father in Blockbuster when are a kid So Is a old movie 🙃
Can't get enough! 👍👂👍
Same
"Galveston island, North Texas"
I suppose it's on the the northern half of the COAST, but we don't call that "North Texas". It's actually in the Southern half of the State as a whole (though we don't usually call that place "South Texas", either, preferring "East Texas", "Gulf Coast", "Coastal Plains", or just saying it's right next to Houston.)
Cabeza de vaca means head of cow. Strange name.
I was thinking same thing...Maybe a important farmer or Land owner?
@@SnarlaRae One of his ancestors was a shepherd who helped the Christian armies defeat the invaders in the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa. He marked a path with the skulls of dead cows to guide the army of Alfonso VIII.
@@tonygorilla8928 Dang! Thanx for info!
Cabeza de Vaca was probably not his real name, he most likely used it as a nickname to describe what the comment above my comment said why he got the name.
Yeah, so strange too that the volcano in La Palma exploded in Cabeza de Vaca and that 500 years ago Colombus parted from these Islands to “discover” the New World
I've lived in Florida for 38 years. I'm betting it's still mostly the same as it was even in 1527.
I don't even want to imagine what they endured. Imagine watching your friends get taken away by alligators. No thanks
It's a lot blacker now.
That's true...It's written that in the spring break of 1529, the first traveling topless scholars of the northern tribes brought a great abundance of titties to the first settlers of Daytona Beach.
@@lookoutforchris Key West in the 1500's was mostly homosexual?
@@snickle1980 😂
I love these accounts of the beginnings slow and perilous conquest. It is amazing that they never once _doubted_ God's will behind these missions, despite the toil, misery and death.
They were there to loot the place and enslave the populace. They just used Christianity as a cover for wholesale robbery.
@@juansantos-lq2kz god I hate when people portray it as some type of noble quest
@@clintonbaird5465 If you have lived back then you would have stayed in your cave sucking your thumb.
@@deadrose007 your “founding fathers” will burn in hell for their crimes against humanity
@@deadrose007 I think you have your history a little messed up people didn’t live in caves then 😂
"I had to work everyday until my hands bleed and turned to smuggling in order to survive... But the worst part was when I saw two gay dudes man!" hahahaxD
Did I hear that right, he described how much they were packing?😂
Degeneracy was just openly called out and mocked. Survival aspect of society still existed in the old world way still. Such transgressions had no place.
Classic Americans lmao
Sounded more like a castrated slave used for sex to me
@@TTS-TP it went against their theological views, as it seems to yours. But you don't live in the 16th century so there's nothing you can do about it lol.
I guess you can call him one of the first “A Florida man”…..
I read de Vaca's edited account in the book 'A Land so Strange', and thanks very much, VotP, for the refresher. There is so much more to this story. But this video, combined with the comment thread, was hours of entertainment.
Very amusing to see people flinging accusations, damning whole cultures for actions long since judged unacceptable by all (in the Western world at least) and & claiming victimhood in the name of suffering felt generations ago. Interesting also was the beginnings of the backlash coming at those who would drive wedges between people, rather than come together & move forward. If only the retroactive do-gooders had a fraction of that concern & passion for the miserable people alive in the world today!
"picky eater has bad time in new world"
Haha
Skill issue
I've read this one before it's an amazing story! Been born and raised in Florida and hope to visit the sites mentioned in the book one day
... I haven't found Florida has changed much since this record...
Wow this was incredible! I'm surprised this is the first I remember hearing about this guy! I'm gonna start telling people about this lol. Thank you for the knowledge!
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)
I love history. governor pushing company to do something against the advice of expert opinion.
technologies change, so we think that dark times went to past, and somehow we are immune to mistakes, but people stay the same, and nothing really changes.
thank you for your work dear Voices of the Past, greetings from Lithuania
Aloha Lithuania 🌺. If u r interested in North American history, u might read
"1491" . The year before Europeans came here, the author poses that until then the indigenous people stocked sweet waters with fish and planted an abundance of orchards and agricultural lands....the reason why the invaders were able to survive on the "fruits of the land" was the same reason the Indians did. The Europeans benefited from others' labor without knowing to give credit.
"governor pushing company to do something against the advice of expert opinion." Yep, Florida is still like that.
@@tinkywinky1238 "expert"
Your content is superb.
Well researched and put together💪
The four part documentary series by the BBC, _Conquistadors,_ hosted by Michael Wood follows in Cabeza de Vaca's footsteps.
Cabeza de Vaca's journey is more than physical, it is an inner journey too where he grows to fully empathize with the indigenous people he originally wanted to subjugate, like Cortes and Pizarro had done elsewhere in the Americas.
It's spelled Cortés and, as you can see from his own words, he wasn't there to subjugate anyone
What a life he had. I read that he was removed from his post in South America and arrested because of his viewpoints and the way he did things. He apparently argued that the Spanish colonists should deal fairly with the natives. Some of the other officials disagreed and wanted to use them for labor and didn't want to treat them well, so they stirred up opposition to his rule. Not sure which exact viewpoints or policies he was removed and arrested for though, just that he was much more sympathetic to the natives, sympathy which he must have gained by living closely with the other natives for years.
@@jorgec.a3123,
Thanks. Edited.
As for the rest, you are just plain wrong;
in case you forgot what, _Conquistador_ means.
English men and their anti-Spanish propaganda never ends. Cabeza de Vaca set out to arrest Cortes. The gringos are practically loosing their country but still can't see through the agit-prop.
@@fuferito you should learn more about Spanish history though, because spain did pass laws to protect those natives that were subjects of the crown. Conquistador means conqueror not genocider
Brilliant work. Amazing channel. Your delivery and narrations are second to none. History, the Bible, many old things, sound best in the British accent.
Imagine being handed two and a half pounds of food and given orders to wander about and report back.
Muchas gracias por este trabajo de traducción.
Wonderful! Would love a podcast version of this.
Cabeza de Vaca mentioned a particular village, which was located next to a river with a horseshoe bend.
that village would later become San Antonio, Texas.
You sure? I dont think de vaca's route went near san antonio.
@@UrMom-jb7vl Apparently he did go through the area.
Cool!
Notice how he keeps saying how large the natives were. Many were found during the 1900s in burial mounds that were over 7 and 8 feet tall.
Most likely a result of castration, having the balls cut off.
The legend of the bearded man and the entrails removed almost sounds like someone performed an appendectomy on one of the Natives and the legend evolved out of that.
Can you give me the time?
That's exactly what I was thinking. Time traveler? Creepy old medicine man who live alone in the woods and only comes to perform surgery? Who knows🤷
@@MrTrees77 I'm willing to bet that some people back then did such things as appendectomies. If, for instance, you've ever heard of the blonde mummies of the Tarim Basin, which are thousands of years old, at least one specimen had surgery performed seemingly to remove sand from his lungs. Much ancient knowledge has been lost to time. Our ancestors were just as thoughtful and creative as we are, so this shouldn't surprise us.
Fiction, if anybody believes franklin invented a doctor in a house basement.. read less fiction.
@@50megatondiplomat28 Brain surgery was also practiced in ancient Egypt.
"A land so strange", one of the best history books out there.
Echoing this
Strange ????,, it was full of self reliance resourcefull people, groups. I tell u what strange. Newcomers allowing a handfull of fascist monarquies to treat everybody else like dirt force them to do despicable acts and live like peasants "were they came from" ( wich is exactly the same place as the others )
@@brianlaroche8856 You're what happens when one has never read a book in their lives 😂
@@dumpmail555 well since you cannot suport such claim, assumption is disregarded
@@dumpmail555 😏 since i am not that fond to fiction, maybe i can recomend you,
Bartolomé de Las Casas anecdotes
Interesting that enuchs are mentioned as a tradition there. The castratii of the catholic church were also recorded as being unusually tall and with big barrel chests. It seems to be a side effect of castration a young age. Captain Cook also noted homosexual relations among pacific islanders that was accepted without question. Fascinating.
"Fascinating" shut up
@@timothymatthews6458 is a castratii
Why is it interesting? Gays exist everywhere men exist.
The "bad thing" story within the account is a bit longer and mentions it showing them he came from a fissure in the ground. Said he dressed as a man and other times a woman, said he appeared during ceremonious times mostly. Said they never saw him eat or drink anything nor would he take any food they offered. Said he could flip their homes up in the air very high and crash them down with seemingly little effort. Very interesting hollow earth theory alien stuff. The whole account is more in depth than this video obviously, but it's well worth the read. Good video.
skinwalker
Wow now you really made me want to read his book
He sounds like your standard biblical demon or someone who was demonically possessed.
Alexis de Tocqueville once wrote, in Democracy in America, that the Indigenous of North America would go hungry to show hospitality to their guests. Now I know where he learned of that.
Well, some of them would. The rest were inhospitable xenophobes that thought everything belonged to them for some reason.
@@bc2578 There are xenophobes everywhere.
I know that the Leftists like to pretend that white people are somehow special for coveting property, but there is even an Ojibwe origin myth that says that the creator flooded the whole world because everyone was fighting over such things as hunting grounds.
Everyone has two wolves inside them.
@@1mag1nat1vename Sure. Even in this video, he admits that these tribes weren't even trading with each other because of so much hostility with all of their surrounding neighboring tribes......And even if Whites "coveted" the land, the "natives" always covet what we have to trade for it. So that makes them just as greedy as us. And often, the goods the Indians most wanted was guns to kill neighboring tribes that they had been murdering long before Europeans came on the scene.
and they did also fight war agenst each other, and ensure that a "refugee" did have work very hard for his uppkeep.
@@1mag1nat1vename Haven't you noticed violence and anger consume the right.
Life sounded so intense back then but they also sounded like they were truly living
We are truly living. They were surviving. Total survival mode.
They were literally just trying to live.
@@nowthisnamestaken no, we are not living. Most people aren’t even in the present moment. Those people were fully alive.
@@maverickbull1909 Fully alive with a lifespan of perhaps 40 years. Searching for food, literally food for most of it.
Some people do that now some people did that then there’s been so many people alive it’s impossible to understand
Wonderful story! Very well meaning and good account of this Spaniard!
Here before this video blows up. Seriously good quality here.
I love this guy. Probably the most incredible life I've ever heard of.
11:38 "... take ailment [sic] from the young" -- "aliment", an archaic word meaning "food" or "sustenance".
Thnx for that
Funny, in spanish "alimento" is our word for sustenance, must have come from Latin.
One helluva adventure, never to be repeated. Sadly 🙏
Just a small correction, the text at 9:14 says Galveston Island is in North Texas, but it's actually in Southeast Texas on the coast. Not a big deal at all though, great video.
In the Wikipedia map it's located in NE Texas, not far from Louisiana. There may be two places with the same name? In any case I'm sure it was not called Galveston (an English name) yet, so there may be some confusion.
Also "Apalache" means Apalachee in West Florida coast, not the Apalache Mts. as wrongly suggested by the map.
@@LuisAldamiz Also possible we're not all using the same map of Texas.
Similar to when he thanks God to be in Mexico, he may likely refer to the literal valley of Mexico, not the modern republic.
@@maxpulido4268 - Maybe. I found the maps in the video somewhat misleading and had to go to Wikipedia to check the actual journey (Apalachee in West Florida and not the Apalachian Mountains, barely mentioned if at all the journey to Arizona and Sinaloa, etc.) In those days the borders of Mexico were not like today, in fact it had no borders because Mexico was, if anything, the country of the Mexica people, i.e. roughly the Aztec Empire, or alternatively Ciudad de México (Tenochtitlan was too hard to pronounce for the Spanish it seems), the land that would become Mexico (the short-lived Mexican Empire) was called "New Spain" and included all the Castile-controlled mainland North America, from Costa Rica to imprecise borders well inside of what is now the USA. In the days of this exploration there was no "Mexico" other than a region in what is now Central Mexico or its capital city.
Can’t believe I am new to this channel. Great (and balanced) video. Only facts can save us. Nice one dude.
This is undeniably awesome.
I love these stories, I love hearing voices from the past echo through time
We're hearing the words written by a man who lived half a millenia ago
He lived in a completely different world, but he saw and experienced the world exactly as we do
I usually watch your videos at least two times when they first come out.
I hope you make some longer ones like you have in the past I really enjoy listening to those while I'm at work.
The narrator has such a good voice...
Whoever is narrating should really consider trying to do something more with their voice :)
Thanks Jeremy! Its meeee
Check out History of the Earth and History of the Universe for so much more
Thanks man
I definitely will
If these natives could have ceased their fighting and warring they would have been more prosperous and been able to resist the colonialists that came later. The warfare stopped them from benefitting from trade and alliances.
My favorite explorer...I don't share his views, for the most part, I mean its hundreds of years later, but he truly was remarkable, for his survival instincts, and faith
Narration was superb!
I wouldn’t want to make that journey today let alone back then.
Remember Charles the 5th was a Moor! He's shown as a black boy on the Inca or Mayan kings list! And also remember in the book America from the 1500s shows black Indians living in Roman-Greco buildings and eating people
Please, read the whole cabeza de Vaca book....unique gem! 🙏❤️
There's a brilliant fictionalization of this adventure called "The Moor's Tale". Highly recommended.
2 lbs of biscuits and half a pound of bacon each, we’re good men lol
First hand knowledge....Florida is a nice place to visit...but I wouldn't want to live here...
I read Cabeza de Vaca when I was a kid. Its title was “La Relación que dio Álvar Núñez Cabeça de Vaca de lo acaescido en las Indias en la armada donde iva por governador Pámphilo de Narbáez desde el año de veinta y siete hasta el año de treinta y seis que bolvió a Sevilla con tres de su compagnía” 😀😀😀
Watch Conquistadores Adventum,you will like it a lot. If you speak spanish,you don't even need to try to find subtitles.
Imagine telling that title to the book vendor 😵
At 10:30 we believe these are the karankawa Indians of the texas coast.
A Puritan account of America would be interesting
Has he not done the Captivity of Mary Rowlandson yet? That’s probably the most famous American Puritan narrative I can think of off the top of my head.
Lol or jesuite, quaker, protestant, presbyterian, lutheran, "mormon" etc etc lol🤣 or plain old skype
So they arrived with ship, travelled several hundred miles inwards on the orders of the governor, and then decided to build a ship on another shore instead of going back? Sounds like they needed a better plan before setting out..
cabeza de vaca means cow head
Narcaez commanded the mission to explore and settle Florida. Becoming separated from their ships was one of his many bad decisions
These folks had no idea of what trying to survive in a Wilderness of Florida would entail. Coming from such a different climate & environment it must have been horrifying to realize the danger they'd placed themselves in. They would have been fine, stranded similarly in the wilds of Spain.
Having experienced Florida myself, it is crazy to me that anyone at all EVER settled there - except for the central farmland area. Hot! Wet! Swampy! Hurricanes! Alligators! Fuck that! Always wondered if the natives there had been run off of better lands to the north, or else why stay there?
Holy fuck imagine seeing a fucking alligator for the first time and not knowing what it was
The origin of the Cabeza de Vaca name has been ascribed traditionally to Alvar Nunez's supposed ancestor Martin Alhaja. Alhaja is a legendary shepherd who reportedly helped the Spanish Christians win an important battle against the Moors at Las Novas de Tolosa in 1212. The story is that Alhaja marked an unguarded mountain pass with the skull of a cow, which allowed the Spanish troops to find a route to the top of the mountain and defeat the Moors in a surprise attack. Alhaja and his descendants were awarded with the title of Cabeza de Vaca. Recent scholarship has discounted the Alhaja story and traces Alvar Nunez's lineage to thirteenth century Spanish nobleman Inez Perez Cabeza de Vaca. The actual history of the name's origin is unknown.
Great stuff. I feel like there is so little information around the age of exploration.
They were busy doing rather than reflecting.
They were lucky the Comanche weren't in the area at the time.
i love these videos but please forgive my quibble... Galveston is most certainly is not and is not considered as North Texas by any current Texan not anyone familiar with the geography of Texas. It would actually be considered South East Texas by many. But mostly, in my experience, it is just considered like as, Galveston, the sandy island next to Houston on the coast of Texas, without much thought given to north, south, east, or west. Although, yes, I suppose it it six or seven hours north of South Padre. Still not north Texas though!
This video describes a typical day us Average Floridians
“They are of admirable proportions”
The prejudice the Spanish had against indigenous people is palpable in this account. I mean they literally kidnapped 4 people then begged them to take them to their homes because they were dying of hunger and thirst, then were greeted with open arms and open hands and their first thought was "oh no, theyre going to sacrifice us".
Correct.
That was so fun.. my imagination plays out these scenes as things are described. I wish I was a good reader.
Cabeza de vaca bécame a protector of the indigenous people and it was sent to South America where he wrote his memories.
This is an awesome first hand account...I have a large stone artifact collection from PA...and I've been researching the Susquehannocks' many of the artifacts I find from the more recent layers seem to be connected to them....The most interesting part of this video to me was the description of the tall muscular Male with mutilated genitalia or for better terms castrated...they were treated as women and lived with the men as such but were forced to perform all the hardest of tasks...The Susquehannock we're refered to as the Minque or munsee or minsee ...or the tribe without a penis ...They were described as viscous warriors of gigantic stature...I believe this tribe was half Iroquois and the other lineage was that from peoples fleeing The Tennessee valleys the Adena and Hopewell cultures ..which I believe we're connected directly to the Mayan civilization as both major groups collapsed simultaneously ...I believe around this time an uprising against the rulling class occured most likely brought on by natural disaster....I believe the southern tribes and the tribes of the Mississippi Valley fleed the collapse of the Mound city and some of them assimilated with a group of mohawks creating the unique tribe known as The Susquehannock....a distant Mayan connection ...this account really helps add another first hand account that supports the descriptions
Very interesting!
Today we complain when our Wi-Fi goes out for 10 min
16:42 sounds pretty much like that fake surgery thing where the "surgeon" has a fake thumb full of blood and they pull out a chicken liver or something like that
When the story/journal entry said that "He wept with us" was that kind of in the eyes of God as they prayed on, or did they all just kind of tell their tales, and cry because of how bad things had sucked for them? I'm asking because they all went through some hard times that would have made me a shivering mess, some of it, and they did it day in and day out. Like, really, is the writer talking about just having a good cry? There is a full year of slavery, that the author just kind of glossed over, and the skin and bones stuff too, and the guy writing it was like, I don't want to upset anyone, so let's leave most of the journey out, because I don't want to make the reader cry.
“a country so miserable…”. Good description of Florida before Air Conditioning. Hell on earth.
One of my favorite accounts. I like the second part of the book where he goes to Paraguay.
Cabeza de Vaca: “I’ll spare you the details, it was so miserable I don’t even wanna explain it.”
Also Cabeza de Vaca: “We were emaciated, we had to eat our horses, we had to work ourselves to death…”
I took that as an implication of cannabolism.
Makes you wonder how much terrible the stuff he hid was
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A group on another raft, separated from Cabezs de Vaca's group, apparently resorted to cannibalism.
The Indians were appalled. Makes one doubt tales of Karankawa cannibalism
Great listen and history insights here. Thanks.
The part about emasculated or even (for that former reason) mutilated tall and exceedingly strong men seems to me to be some more or less accurate description of some hereditary hormonal disorder caused by some degree of inbreeding within relatively small tribes. Their tribesmen couldn't have possibly known the real reasons nor nature of that disorder and apparently tended to connect the more or less undefined male characteristics of their outer organs with effemination and - coming to some poor conclusions - started to exploit them in the ways this internet platform doesn't allow me to call by its name. The poor dudes were in a precarious situation within their societal structures - (clearly enough patriarchal, which is proven by some other parts of this relation) and had to put up with it and make the best of what nature gave them.
it was more likely castrated slaves. people get really tall if you remove their genitals because their bones don't get the hormone signals to stop growing. this was common back then
@@007kingifrit these class of people were a combination of being genetically hormonally affected and/or castrated; he describes some as being emasculated in that manner.
@@007kingifrit castration during childhood does cause greater height, but how could they be more muscular and stronger without testosterone, if anything that means they had higher than normal test levels, but had some other hormonal deficiency that didnt let them get hard, so they would be treated as non-males and some would cut off their shlongs because they thought they didnt need them, but must have still kept their balls, otherwise they would be weaker.
@@brebium7715 i mean do we actually know they were stronger? or does the narrator just assume such based on size?
@@007kingifrit he said they were more muscular than the other men
13:22 "Cheruoco" or the Cherokee
A lot of the Europeans wrote about a race of giants. Any thoughts on these accounts?
Did a few videos on dog headed men if that helps
@@VoicesofthePast I'll check them out!
I remember dating a beautiful girl in high school. She was great in every way except that she despised history and would not even give it a chance. I broke uo with her after trying to convert her. She just looked so unattractive to me once i knew that she had no curiosity of our past.
This was very interesting. Hope to hear more conquistador points of view 👍
I’m pretty sure 100% of accounts from this time are from conquistadors
The markings on the arms of those Indians looked like Polynesian tribals this is around the same time Polynesians came to America to
I like "Isle of Misfortune" better than "Galveston."
Fascinating.
If you think you have it tough in life because they ran out of whatever at the store and you're inconvenienced for a few moments in time, please listen to the first ten minutes of this account of exploration to put things in perspective.
I heard the whole book on audio. Amazing tale.
I knew it was France although I'd likely miss most questions..
Queen Chief Warhorse Gilliam of the Chakta in Louisiana was right. At the beginning of the video look where Florida, the Land of Flowers is. From the Mississippi to Georgia!
I don’t know what you’re referencing. Explain this, good brother.