How we Designed our House to be Heated with Wood & Natural Convection
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Our woodstove setup and how we heat 3000 sq ft using Natural Convection.
Chicken Plucker Giveaway~ bit.ly/2zZOj3U
~Our Website~The Modern Steader Blog~ bit.ly/2xbEUb1
Check Out Our NEW Lumnah Acres Apparel~ bit.ly/2joOLB6
In-Depth How to Butchering Videos and More on Patreon~ bit.ly/2AzifqQ
CoopNMore Website and Promo Code for 10% Off For Modern Steaders
bit.ly/2uFjZJm Promo Code Lumnah for 10% off
Stormy Kromer~ bit.ly/2z0lCmz 20% Off & Free Shipping Promo Code RBA67J63562Y17
Most Links are Affiliate links
www.coopsnmore... Discount code Lumnah 10% off
Daily Video Uploads
Check us at
Facebook / lumnah-acres-173767697...
Twitter / lumnahacres
Instagram / lumnahacres
I was born and raised 20 minutes from Boston, MA. At the age of 17, I was diagnosed with Anxiety. My personal experience with the prescribed medication was NOT POSITIVE. So I decided to find better way. I didn't know it at the time but, that was the BEGINNING for me! I have been “FINDING A BETTER WAY” in all areas in my life ever since. Better ways of how to create a modern homestead affordably, and a better way to provide my family with healthy foods, and so….. much MORE!
At Lumnah Acres we hope our experiences can help guide you to find YOUR BETTER WAY! Please join us in sharing our journey with you, let us be a guide to Modern Homesteading, Self-Sufficiency, and FREEDOM for you!
Daily Uploads!
We wanted to thank all the Modern Steaders who gave us the Thumbs Up on the video we made some brownies in. We have over 700 thumbs up! Here is the recipe that we Promised if we reached 600 thumbs up ~ bit.ly/2EMY3kg
Love the great videos. Is that black mould on the basement concrete walls?
Nope Lol
I'm not a.homesteader but is my dream
Nice set-up...good job on thinking things thru.
Tyvm 👍
A cat lying like that is proof that it is warm enough for mere humans.
Very nice explanation of your heating! That is a charming furnace.
One can always surmise the amount of research that you put into each of your projects... Well thought out and designed system. Not needed here in Central Texas, but valuable information nonetheless!
Al congratulations on making the top 10 videos u deserve it
My grandparents had a house heated by a coal stove that was built in the 1850s. I remember standing on those grates as a child to warm up - the direct heat coming through the grates was one of the best sensations on a cold morning.
Great setup and awesome video. Sins my house is from the 1800 I had no control of where the woodstoves sits so I got 2 of them to heat the house but that works great to. The only thing is that all the mess ends up in our living area. Greetings from Andreas on Off Grid Sweden
I love the forethought that you've put into your heating system. The solution is fairly simple, but it's the sort of simplicity that only comes from good research, problem solving and application to create an efficient and practical solution. I also liked how the explanation of your system was highlighted with the cuteness of Figaro and Olivia! :)
Out of interest, do you still plan to install the hot water loop in the wood stove for a cheaper and/or alternative hot water source at some stage? I forgot to ask that on here yesterday... :)
have you thought of limited solar for electric as a backup in case the grid goes down , the excess energy you could also sell back to the grid.
Hi........ AL. Thank you for your explanation of wood stove I never seen like this before . This is my first time of wood stove I have seen from you AL, thank you for sharing your video homestead chicken farmer garden 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 bye 👋 👨👩👧👸👕👓🐩🐔🐓🐥🐕🐖🐈🌱🐐🏡🎥👍👍👍
hi good morning beautiful family thanks for sharing its good to sit having breakfast and watching your great videos, such a great start to a beautiful day good morning Gina and Olivia have a wonderful day today, till tomorrow same place same time God bless beautiful family bye Olivia 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕.
Great video! Here’s a BTU chart by wood type. m.extension.illinois.edu/firewood/characteristics.cfm
Naked Hog Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for posting!
soaringtractor that’s a great point! I’ll have to do some more digging.
Lumnah Acres Thank YOU Al for posting such great content!
I learned something new today. Cold air drops were unheard of to me but now make a lot of sense.
Thank you for making this video, great content, do you mind sharing the cost of this model. You have a great channel and I appreciate your time and your willingness to share information.
I believe it cost around $3500 shipped to the house.
I also use wood to heat my 2,800sqft home with a full basement and main floor 1400sqft per level. Our wood stove is actually a forced air indoor wood furnace by Sears and Roebuck. So it does use a bit of electricity to make the stove more efficient. Decent trade off I suppose.
Anyway, I live in the foothills of the ozarks in southern Missouri.
Old timers told me that 10 acres or more of forest on your land can supply enough dead fall to heat a farm house without ever cutting a live tree from the land.
Considered that heavily when purchasing our farm. We bought 33 acres, 12a in forest 1.5a in ponds and the remaining mostly resembles large oak/ hardwood savanna.
Soooooooo glad to be out of the Suburban neighborhood FINALLY!!lol. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge
As suggested, here is a link to a BTU chart: firewoodhoardersclub.com/forums/resources/firewood-btu-drying-chart.15/
If you are new to wood burning this will help you get better prepared since there is no way to get much heat by cutting and then burning wood. It needs to be well seasoned.
firewoodhoardersclub.com/documents/Primer%20on%20Wood%20Burning.pdf
Thanks for posting!
I forgot to say 'Congratulations' for being selected to the 'Top Ten' in White House on the Hill 2017 top Homesteading channels!!!!
Thanks for the video very informative! You did your research, nice job!!
That stove installation would fail an inspection by the authority having jurisdiction. No offense, but you’re set up is a danger for you. I hope nobody tries this on their own. Good luck to you.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. We can’t cut vents in our floor where I live. I have to blow the hot air up my stairwell with a fan. Or let it just rise up on it’s own. The whole house still stays more than warm enough though. Even at -35 degrees Celsius.
Al, interesting video. Texas is cold today and we finally turned my heat last evening. Your stove sound very efficient. God bless America...
Greetings from Wisconsin! First time watching your channel...I enjoyed watching 3 videos so far...Cannot wait to see how you started out homesteading...and more of your journey. Thanks for sharing!
Joe Jeness (sp?) at Joe & Zach Survival have a vid about his daughter baking bread in a wood-stove-top oven. Could be a good, inexpensive solution for baking/roasting.
If you plumbed a ball valve and entrance pipe into the opening for the air entrance of the fire box and drew in combustion air from the outside, you'll reduce convection of fresh air entering the building envelope. It can make a substantial difference.
Yes, and what also happens is that the heat builds up inside the house pushing the pressure against the windows preventing drafts of cold air that generally come from windows. I wish I had a diagram to explain for visual learning. With out air from the outside coming directly into the back of the stove directly to the inside of the stove, the stove draws its air from inside the house. This air that is drawn generally comes from Leaks in the envelope of the house. These leaks can be from poor window seals. This means the draft is caused by the sucking of air outside the windows to inside the house. BUT if you only draw air directly into the stove from the back, there is no cold air being sucked inside through the windows. What actually happens is that the heat from the stove pushes up against the windows and Prevents the draft of cold air being sucked into the house. Awesome science stuff! 🙏🇨🇦
Great info! Really like the idea of the cold air dumps/returns. Keep up the good work!
do you think this stove could heat another floor, as you have it set up? We are planning on building and I love your setup but we're thinking about having 2 bedrooms on a second story and I'm wondering if this would work for the whole house? Alternatively, if you put this on the main floor would it bake you guys out?
The stove will heat over 3000 sq feet
Alot of solid info here. Well done sir
Really great looking furnace, but I do believe that is a coal furnace. Small fire box, shaker grate, that cool damper....just saying. I'm glad you are having such good luck with it, but I bet it works you to death loading it all the time. Bit coal or anthracite blow your mind with that beast.
Thanks Al ! A very well thought out system with a great explanation of how it works.
Brilliant and awesome! Your family is greatly blessed. Happy New Year! Blessings to all!
Your thoughts on a cold air intake?
Insulate and drywall the ceiling above the wood stove. Safer and keeps the bedrooms cooler! Nice job
Thanks! Which end of your home is the wood stove? North, South, East or West?
I love watching this channel, you think things through so well
Thanks for the excellent explanation of your wood stove! Wish I would have had a stove like that when we lived in the north country! We live in the worm south now! Love watching your channel! God bless your family!
I like your house.. all wood and not a board of sheetrock in sight.. It's great
I like the idea of the glass in the stove door so you can watch the fire. That makes a huge difference.
Thanks very interesting fella
Excellent information.......thank you for this video, We found it really helpful
8.15 just like when you make a snow cave you have to make a cold air drop, brilliant.... should do this as a job heating advisor because you're advice is brilliant. ...
Nice job of explaining the heating system in your beautiful home! You should have recommended your video on how you store your firewood for drying and easy access in winter, that video is an excellent one also. God Bless
Dennis St.Germaine I was wondering the very same thing.
Will a big air grate in the living room area with a "blower" sucking the air out of the basement into the living room grate put more hot air in the living room area???
My favorite channel to start the day!
a lot of valuable information as per usual, I'm curious what the price tag would be on the self curt chimney and the wood stove, I really like the look of this setup. Thanks for sharing
I was getting ready to say that you should leave the air duct off the one vent so heat could go up through it, or use a screen door or something to let the heat escape the stairwell. (It looked like you had a full door because you couldn't see any light coming down the stairs.) Then I seen the gate you have at the top of the stairs, that was a great idea. I am new to your channel but I've been catching up lol. Seems like you really do things right the first time.
Great job on how to heat a house. How much does the wood cost per year ?
Congrats making top ten videos! 👍
Al, do you cut your own firewood on your property or do you buy firewood?
I really admire this heating design. When we had our blueberry farm that was deeper in the Appalachian mountains we had a three level chalet style 3500 sq. ft. home. We had a woodstove in the middle level of the house and it surely kept the second and third floors very warm whenever we had to use it. However, it would have been great to have implemented this system in that style home because it would have heated the entire three levels of that house very well. I really like this style of woodstove too, because it has so many features that make it more pleasing to the eye and make it friendly to use in many other applications. Great Video! Thanks for sharing how you designed this. When we build our next house I will surely keep this design idea in mind! Journey On!
Insulation over wood stove some, not all. That way bed rooms want be to hot.
Thank you for explained how cold air drops and how to control that. I did not know this and very helpful.
awesome i'm glad i found this episode! been curious about the stove itself and how
it heats everything. it's a very handsome wood stove as well.
You can definitely flash a metal roof properly.
Thank you for the explaination of hot and cool vents. I've never seen this done and love the simplicity! You could always put a few fans in there if you wanted to. Very neat.
Few do it, but a wood stove can be used to power all the fans you might want or need to move air around the structure.
Good Morning, Al. Brrrr! From Long Island NY where it's pretty darn cold too, just not quite as cold as by your place. We are expecting some snow tonight so time to prep the coop for wind protection. Bring on the plastic sheets!
So here's a question. What happens when you want to go away for a week? I know, homesteaders never leave and are always working, but if you and your family won a trip to the Barbados how would you keep the pipes from freezing while you were away?
I wonder why no one seems to use tiled stoves in the US or Canada (something like www.homethingspast.com/tiled-stoves/ or ceresit-pro.pl/img/original/6802.jpg ) which are very popular in eastern Europe (Russia) or northern Europe (Sweden) where they also have very harsh winters. They have huge amounts of chamotte stone / fire brick built in which keeps and stores the heat during a whole day. Also the burning gases / hot air is lead through an meander of internal heat exchange flue channels until it reaches the chimney for higher energy efficiency. In this way you can keep the stove for many hours or even a whole day unattended.
That reminds me of a rocket mass heater. Thanks for sharing I had never heard of them before
Thank you for the very informative description of your heating system.
Thanks Al. Great tips and thank you for sharing this method of heating with us. :)
Yes! We were curious to find out more regarding your wood stove and how you heated your home with it... Thank you! Nicely done and well thought out. Thanks for sharing!!
I admire your commitment,
persuacion and courage. Best luck.
Congrats on top 10 homestead video. I enjoy your channel.
Hang some 5/8ths type-X drywall over the stove, under the over-warmed bed rooms this will displace some of that unwanted heat to the other joist bays and up the stairs.
Terrific. Dad built a mountain house years ago and I've tried to figure a way to to heat it when I retire. He had electric baseboard. You've given me great advice on how to do it. The down draft set up explains how to get the cool air into the basement. Putting in grates will be easy. Thanks.
Cooler air sinks down to the lower spaces because of its density. Warmer air floats/ gets pushed up on colder air. The colder air does all the pushing. Tear a narrow stip of fine tissue or toilet-type paper, hold one end and walk up the stairs to see all this
thank you for sharing...really like the swinging half doors...
So the key to having a wood-burning stove in the basement and have it not be messy hollingwood in and out is to have a walkout
Not necessarily. I've been heating with wood for years and by far the biggest factor there is the method of hauling it in. OP says he uses a wheelbarrow, but if the wheel's going through mud or snow then that's going to track that in with it. You can lay down a special rug just to catch all of this, or you can keep a clean wood storage area close to the house (set off a bit to keep bugs/mice etc in the woodshed and not in the house), then keep the path between clear. I've got a nice-sized carport where my wood is kept and then I have a custom dolly that I use to bring the wood in with. I'll get a few bits of bark on the carpet after I'm done (bringing in 4-5 loads), but I pick them up by hand quite easily.
You have a great system and thanks for the recipe. Have a blessed day.
I wanna know if you are all gone for a week and you come home to a cold, like 40F or 50F degree house, how long does it take to get the heat upstairs to a decent temp ?
Congrats for making the top 10 videos award for 2017 you should have been #1
Wood heat. The natural and renewable resource. Nice heating system. We have a large masonry Rumford fireplace in our home which has a large enough opening to allow for a Jotul wood stove. We have a forced air central heating system, but there is nothing quite like the cozy feel of radiant heat coming from a cast iron wood stove on a cold winter day. Best wishes for a happy 2018.
When I lived off grid I cooked on a bonfire. The way I baked was with two stainless steel bowls and two bricks. I put the two bricks in the bottom of one bowl and used the other bowl as a lid. I used aluminum foil to keep the bowls "sealed." This was big enough for an 8x8 pan or a bread pan, which is what I was using it for the most. I'm sure you could design something similar and more functional to use on the top of your stove so that you don't have to bake inside the fire box. Plus, you could always bake in your outdoor kitchen in the cook stove ;)
Very good I like that, thanks for sharing your info 👍🇺🇸
Thanks again great video
This is brilliant. I've seen parts of this but not all of it or together before. Love it!
good day to you Al !! thanks for sharing you great advice and information a how you Designed your House to be Heated with Wood & Natural Convection and showing how it's done
Excellent video! We have a tuxedo cat too! Anytime your chickens or pigs are on, she comes and sits in front of the tv to watch. Its very cute. The wood stove you have sure is a good looking one. I'm warming up to the idea (no pun intended!) of putting in a wood stove myself, even tho we are on-grid and have conventional everything. Thanks for taking the time to talk about this!
Congratulations on making the top 10 videos. I like wood over gas and electric heat. Thanks for another great video. I do want to suggest yall start practicing cooking on the wood stove so yall know how if/when you need to.
I know this is a year old, but hope you find this comment useful. Warm Bedroom: Is there some way to add some insulation above the heater ... Perhaps just put some plywood on the bottom of the rafters to make a dead space directly above so that the moving air would not be rising directly into the space below the bedroom...you could then treat that space as another floor, have openings into it to allow heat to rise (or move sideways) into the space and have drop down cool vents to allow the cold air to fall into the basement. You could control the damper in the cold drops to control the amount of circulation of warm air under the floor. Also, since there would be a barrier between the floor of the bedroom and the heater, radiant heat would be blocked and would only heat up the covering plywood, not the floor of the bedroom. Perhaps drop the ceiling a few inches and just put a little insulation on top of it, not enough to block the free air flow from the sides.
Love your videos. Thanks for the inspiration. Best of luck with this winter.
Great vid. How about some insulating boards on the ceiling under the bedrooms. It might deflect the heat/hot air away towards the living area?
Happy 2018 to you and yours, Al! Stay warm. Hugs from Montreal :)
It must be cold in Montreal too?
Al, it's crazy. It's next level. Ever since Christmas we've been getting hammered with crazy weather. We've seen temperatures from -24F with a wind chill of -40F !!!! That's nuts. Today is pretty nice though, its 10F, a welcome change from this polar vortex! Hopefully, that's as cold as it will get. I was worried about my chickens, but they continue to impress me in these temperatures. They're heroes! Stay warm. Hugs from Montreal :)
Do you close off these convection vents and drops in the summer to keep the cooler air in the living space versus falling into the basement/ first floor?
We designed our house around the stove as well, but it is not as big of a house (about 1500 sq. ft. with no basement) and it is super insulated. We go through less than a cord of wood a year, so we have a much smaller stove. Our stove is at the base of the stairway and the pipe goes straight up through the house. It has a clean-out tee just above the stove itself.One thing we found is that with a well insulated house you need to be careful not to over feed the fire. A little goes a long way, and lower BTU woods like aspen actually work just fine.
Get 2 convection stove top fans force air toward stair well and couch, put 2 high wall vents in bed rooms will keep bed room cooler, and kitchen and bathroom warmer, I use 12 volts fans powered by solar system each day, so free forced air flow, in your set up, I would drop a 14 pipe from main floor, drop down right over that stove, install my 12 v fan in the plenum pipe to force air stright up, I live in Northern NS Canada, I heat 1000 Sq feet, with 3 cords or less of birch and some cedar, even flow and is a solar powered force air system, nice place, bet you'd like mine too, my woodstove is smaller, only 60,000 btu, keeps house a constant 75, in the minus 20 nights I drop to 70 f, but more excuse to snuggle with mama, cheers
Excellent video, very well thought out. I to heat with wood in northern BC Canada. Thank you.
What an innovative house design for 3000 sq. ft. Really enjoyed your video & modern home steading concepts. I am an original Mother Earther, who lived off-grid back in the 70s. In 1980, I was 30, so please bear with me, if I appear to be somewhat out dated, compared to your home steading methods. Its all good stuff! We live a 1935 rural lifestyle in small town Americana. My husband is 4th generation NH farming. He is 72 and works every day on our 350 acre family farm, now owned by his brother.They are logging today. 35 Herefords currently in the barn, to answer your question of wintering your livestock. Many are calves/breeding stock. Our newly designed home, at the base of the farm, is 988 sq. ft. with walk-in basement that currently holds 5 cords of dry wood for two woodstoves, one air tight in cellar, one vintage kitchen wood stove. Our central staircase delivers warm air to the upstairs main living area. We are set up to live off-grid if necessary, but decided to bring in the grid through woods.Our Aladdin lamps stand ready :-) We are Lakes Region. I understand you are further north. Looking forward to your videos.
Thanks You arent that far from us at all. It sounds like you have a nice homestead!
Why didn't you put the chimney through the house, the proper way a chimney should be? The majority of your chimney is cold which doesn't help draft. I have the largest BlazeKing King stove in my basement with an exterior chimney. I can't run anything but high in my scenario because the draft is too poor it gets dangerous. Everyone I spoke to and BlazeKing themselves say the only thing I can do is put a proper chimney, ie, straight up through the house! Hopefully I can use my same chimney and just relocate it.
I'm a master mason and I have to say that I enjoyed your video very much. It was nice to see someone take the time to understand the art of a good fireplace. :)
Very nice video! Tfs🐔
Thanks for sharing all that information on your wood stove. It sure looks good and you say it’s quite efficient. Great!
Nice info on what looks like a wonderful stove, wood heat is the best!! Will you ever cut your own off your land?
Maybe someday when we have the time
I'm in the process of planning a new off grid home. Your system is grossly outdated. I've lived with a wood burning stove for 30 plus years and I've lived with the system you have. It is time and resource consuming. We endured this system because this is what the local masons could build. My ancestors and the Nordic people invented the best heater. You need to design a home around a masonry heater, or cheaper yet, a rocket mass heater if your locality allows it. You are a slave to you stove if you don't have a masonry heater or a rocket mass heater. Thank God that you can find masters to build these wonderful "heaters" in 2018. These masonry heaters are "green" and exceptionally efficient. YOU ONLY NEED 1/10TH THE FIREWOOD of a regular wood stove.
I'd be far more "ok" with my bedroom being 10 degrees COOLER than our living area than 10 degrees warmer. You need better circulation.
That's a great stove. I have a vermont resolute acclaim I have for a number of yrs. What's the name of yours .Do they still make it
It is a DS Energy Max yes they still make it
Nice setup. Have you considered grounding the Chimney? …curious hoping to have something similar this year.
I'm curious.........in another vid you were having a delivery of wood. If you're burning 5-6 cords, how much are you spending on wood?
Here is a thought. I have a passive solar house with a heat pump with back up resistance heating. and a wood stove. The woodstove is on the main floor of a 2 story house with a garage under. The master bedroom is over the stove and the flue is internal and runs up through a walk in closet, it is a zero clearance chimney and it is enclosed. Where you have the floor joists exposed under you bedrooms I have a v-groove pine board ceiling. With the heat on bust under the floor the bedrooms are a nice 16-17c, 60-62f with the bedroom doors closed. With the doors open I can get 22-23c in the bedrooms when it is 24c on the main floor. An unheated room in the basement, with 2" of foam outside and 4" spray on foam inside is 10c. I heat another storage room to 17c, it is under the kitchen so I think of it as a bonus warm floor. The rest of the floor on the main floor has 9" of spray in foam, long story, I did not pay extra for the excess, it is always a warm floor. Under is a largely unheated garage/shop/wood storage. PS: the entire envelope of the house has 5.5" of spray on foam unless noted. The entire basement exterior below grade has a layer of 2" foam board (Cladmate). The basement has 4" sprayed foam behind gyprock. Moral of story, put something on the joists under the bedrooms to prevent direct conduction of heat from below. That dead air space, although lousy insulation, will knock 10f degrees off the bedroom temps. Something with fewer holes than a T&g product might knock off even more heat penetration. My normal cold temps here are only in the 20-35f range but it is very windy.
Al how did you insulate the house? I.e wall and ceiling. Do you have attic trusses, if so how did you insulate the attic? Thanks!
The whole house is insulated with fiberglass. We have trusses and they are also insulated
What size floor returns did you make? My ds 110 says to use 14x20 but your look smaller on the video. Just wondering what size worked for you. Thanks. We got a ds110 to heat our home because of your videos!
All the holes in the floor is the traditional way to do it. My great grandmother's farm had big, cast iron covered, open vents in every upstairs room. They were considered part of the floor and you just walked right on them. They were frequently positioned in front of doors upstairs so that there was never a conflict between the vents and furniture placement. It did deny everyone any real privacy. That's the 'modern' downfall. Us kids would spy on the grownups through those things. I'm sure they knew it, but at the time we thought we were so sneaky/smart.
The only Problem I see. Is years ago taking housing and design. A brick chimney through the center of a house creates even more heat. With the themral mass of the brick taking on the smoke and heat lost out the chimney. Farm houses Years ago where Designed around this. And Open Stairways. Your place isn't taking advantage of that. But still good job. :)
Nice vid. We use a Jotul in our 1150 sq ft A frame chalet log home here in Anchorage. We have radient heat that we use in addition for when we are gone. Are you loading it up and turning the damper down low before you are gone from the house for a while?
how to be 30% more efficient,
duct outside air to the heat control opening . cold dense outside air supports combustion/ expansion and all heated air stays in the basement.
i ran a dryer vent and metalized hose to the air intake of my small sheet metal box heater and installed a duct thimble with metal screws . cold outside air supports combustion. heated air stays inside. be well.