Great review, & nice darts, I actually met Rob at the premier league darts in Dublin a couple days ago, such a nice man, definitely picking these darts up
I had a set of rob cross darts version 21 g and I won 2 tournaments with them this year and I play well with them in practice with normal spikes already assembled and I hit 2 180 lines and during one tournament I achieved a high finish at 155 and almost another time in the same tournament just misses the double 19.
Think I'll be getting these for when my season starts next year! Debated all year what ones to go for and rewatched this and I'm doing it. Hope you're well - great review as always.
Another great structured review Darren with the usual personal friendly feel. Looking at these darts they look very similar to the Bristow darts I bought for my brother a very good looking and a standard preforming dart. I would like to say to add to your comment Darren I hope Phil has a great retirement and I have a feeling we may just see him in the commentary box as a guest in the future so all the best Phil and thanks for all you have done and achieved in darts. Cheers Dynamite Dave.
Cheers Dave! :) Yeah very similar to Brissys and a few others too :) I think Taylor is going to enjoy his retirement, sounds like he will still be very active in darts though :)
Bought a set of these during the final and the storm points along with it. Swapped them out and they flew lovely was taking the darts out if the board and 1 fell on the floor and snapped the point right on the barrel. Arrrgghhh. Great review as always. Been watching them for about a yr now and i think you cost me more money than Paddy Power🤣🤣. Thanks again
I have heard quite a lot of people breaking the storm points now, put me off using them really. Lol sorry about costing you money, I hear that often haha :)
I have the 23 gram set of these they grip well I thought and to get a life time barrel guarantee with them I thought was good aswell they work quiet well for me but I'm no pro might get the 21 gram set for my collection soon thanks for all the vids mate keep up the good reviews thanks👍
the silverback barrels is a bit longer. Cross darts is 4.8 cm long, that's better for me. if you want a thicker barrel than Dimitri van den Bergh is a must!
I bought these a few months back and put some supergrip carbon stems on and changed the flights and I have to say I'm loving these darts. I think this will be my go-to set for a fair while. EDIT: forgot to add that the only thing I found a little on the disappointing side about them was the points, which were a little blunt and short, but I'll change them out soon and they should be perfect.
I have a set of these but I have robs actual match used darts what he used in a game in the Premier league this year they look different to these different points in and has the Rob Cross signature on them
@@DartsReviewChannel yes they do mate. the darts what they use aren't the same what are sold to the public. I've seen someone with the Taylor phase 5s from argos and the Taylor phase 5s what are match used by him and the ones what are match used look different and they look better quality than the ones you can buy out of the shop
Well I love a 48 mm Dart always have when I could shoot a straight Barrel since my severe thumb injury I have to shoot a short barrel I think you got those at the right price before they start engraving his name on the darts and you know they're going to go up and price big time they're kind of like the Allen Chuck Norris darts which I love and what I really liked on the review just a suggestion is showing the player with his grip that was really cool thanks for that great review man really appreciate you and what you do as always keep up the great work
Darts Review Channel Yes I think your right Darren. Would be nice if they produced them in a limited gold barrel. Target do make a good and well presented dart, but the lack of player's signatures on the barrels is disappointing:(
Just ordered these darts, normaly play with a bullet shaped dart, but these straight barrels are not as long as some, so give them a go, probably be on ebay in a few days lol...good review mate ..
Thanks Brian, its a good classic straight barrel style but there is a lot of darts like this, I used to hate straight barrel darts but I got used to them, usually around 48mm works best for me though. LOL I know what you mean about ebay though, I used to do the same thing, buy it one day then listed for a loss a few days later, crazy really lol! :)
I sold a joblot of darts during the week, made a 3 quid profit lol...but like you said, always a slight loss on most sales...like the look of Ryan Searles darts, but not seen them about, apart from in his hand, doubt he will sell them lol...See how i get on with the Cross darts, might take me to the next level, meaning my dart boards getting moved upstairs lol..
Nice Video Daren and one of my friends is Dan who works in Sainsbury’s in Haverhill and He was telling my mum about Rob Cross playing in the Pub which he plays in a League Tuesday Nights and Dan said if he sees Rob and he might ask Rob to sign something for me👍
I would like to see him and tell how is he doing and I forgot to say Rob is now the Number 3 seed. Last Year at the Cambridge Dart Masters I got to meet Raymond van Barneveld and got a picture of me and Raymond it has his signature and I got to meet Martin Adams and Bobby George and I got them to sign my Purple Shirt and how surprising!
Not jumping on the band wagon but I might give these a go... My old faithfuls are 48mm in length exactly and have seen these are too.. These may be but too grippy for me tho, do you have a list of other darts with 48mm barrel length as you seem to like shorter ones? I think a good set of tungstens is needed now, mine are so old I think they are low grade... Cheers
I would say give them a go, they are not super grippy just a little grippier than you may think. But Ian White darts are good and also the Bristows are similar :)
Answer is at the beginning as usual :) Its also on the end on the pic in the background, £32.95 from Double Top darts, which is fairly costly for a basic design but for a high profile player and one who has now won a worlds its probably ok :)
Excellent review once again Darren. I might have to give these a go. I like the fact of a straight barrel shorter than 50mm, but will prolly need a longer point also. Cheers mate.
Very nice from Voltage. When I first saw it, I thought it was a Unicorn design lol. And just an observation, my 19gm Paul Lim darts flew just as wild as the Rob Cross with Pear Flights did. Its a really interesting fishtailing but I sort of fixed it out by using the mid to rear grip instead.
Yeah its a similar design to a lot of darts I guess but also seems popular with many people because its just a tried and tested design that works well :)
Have you done a review on the harrows ice 22g only been playing darts for the last month still using brass 22g but find myself playing at least an hour a day so looking for a good dart that won't break the budget for a middle gripper cheers
I have had a couple of sets of the ICE but never reviewed them, I did review the 24g Black Ice though. But I think its a nice dart overall, check this forum thread: dartsnutz.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=20088
Cross has had an insane first year. Was so lucky to get past Michael Smith as he was in sublime form plus the comeback from the young Belgian and mvg uncharecteristically missing match darts. Still a great player but I need to back mvg a few times this year to get some of my money back ! I backed him when he was 6/4 I'm tournaments and heist has the odd £10 then when he was 4/6 I put more on and always seem to lose! Love their rivalry just wish the bookies would be fairer with the odds as I'll always back mvg though you can only back him outright and even then hes odds on for all tournaments bar the premier league
Are these an Eric Bristow copy? And what points do Rob Cross use? I see him use a golden storm-looking point but I still don't know. Thanks in advance!
as allways a great review daz the grip on these remind me of the red dragon javelin dart real cheap and nice grip on them when do you plan to do a long term review of your unicorn board would like to see a video on how it looks before I buy one cheers again daz
I would love to see a video in which u explain the length-relation between the barrel and the shaft and its impact on the flight characteristics...sorry for my bad english 🙈
I understand what you mean, it gets a bit complicated though as not everything works the same for everyone, its often very personal to each individual but I may try and do some sort of guide when I get chance :)
Darts Review Channel The Blade 4 is more expensive as Blade 5 isn't it? Can you tell me how much you practised on your Blade 4 and when was the first time, you rotate your Board? Please guess, if you are not Sure🙏
And plus on the 27th Of January at Norwich I’m gonna be at The UK Open Qualifies which’s on Saturday almost the end of January and what do you think about me?
They can’t even get the bloody world champ’s dart at close to 23g or matched weight to exactly 23g?! I think it is careless when dart manufacturers say a dart weighs 23g or 21g, whatever, and you weigh them and they’re 23.1 something or 23.2 something - ESPECIALLY when you’ve paid £60, £70 + for them! Anyway, I get it that nobody can feel .1 something, but it is the principle of the fact regarding a buyer’s expectation of quality and care that companies are supposed to be putting into their products. Anyways, even after that rant, I still own a set of these and love ‘em hahaha. They epitomize my preferred dart. Thanks for the review/content, it’s always fun to watch your videos, Darren mate.
There has not been many darts which are an exact 23.00 or whatever weight the box says, its never that easy to get such a perfect weight as the tungsten itself can have more or less the density and quality of another barrel, its always going to be a case of getting as close as possible. As long as the barrels are within the usual +/- 0.1 or 0.05 gram as stated on the box its fine. :) Cheers! :)
@@DartsReviewChannel yes, but what I am saying is when darts manufacturers demand a PREMIUM price for their darts as they do so today, I am expect some close attention to detail. I’m NOT talking about my desire to see the barrels EXACTLY 25g or whatever it is advertised as, but I do expect there to be a zero in the tenth’s place; there are countless video on YOUR CHANNEL haha and many others where the darts have that zero in the tenth’s place. It may sound pedantic, but darts manufacturers are, apparently, more than capable of doing so on a massively consistent basis, so there is really no excuse for some to be thought of as, “eh, close enough. They’ll probably won’t ever weigh ‘em.” It is, however, paramount that they are ALL three within that 0.05g guarantee of each other, again, to show attention to detail in order to substantiate these often absurd prices demanded for darts. It isn’t about wanting them to be 25.0000000058987, but having that zero in the tenth’s place is not too much to expect, that’s all I’m saying, mate. Cheers
Yeah I understand, I just mean if it is advertised on the box as within the 0.05g or 0.10g then the least we can expect is that all 3 barrels are within that range of being matched. How close that figure is to the whole number is another matter as is the price to quality control ratio. But I do agree that within reason it should be possible for them to be as close as possible. I know some brands have and do do it but they are often Asian brands that charge even more for the privilege of getting a perfectly matched set. Best I have seen on many of their darts is South Korean brand Bullsfighter, nearly every set I ever had were perfectly matched and they were not too crazily priced compared to some of the Japanese brands. Not many brands form their own tungsten billets, it's nearly all bought from China these days. But you can machine 3 billets exactly the same and that still does not guarantee that the barrels will be perfectly matched. Because the tungsten will not be 100% equal in density, it will be very close though. So to get the barrels perfect or as close to as possible they have to go through each barrel matching them, which is what I would expect them to do at the very least. If there is still not a close enough match then they would have to drill some tungsten out which means extra work and I think they would charge even more then. I would assume if the quality of tungsten is good enough then they should only need to match by picking 3 barrels close in weight though and I think it is clear that sometimes they don't seem to have done that. I know there has been plenty of instances in my reviews where the barrels are not matched within the range stated. It's not good when that happens but also not the end of the world, suppose it depends on the individual's view on it. I've never known anyone send a set back because of it but I think there's been a few where it's been so far out I guess that I could have. Again I agree that these days it should be less of a problem as the machines have become much more refined but it still happens, more than likely just down to poor quality control.
@@DartsReviewChannel yes, it all boils down to attention to detail and a matter of how much pride manufactures put into their darts. I’ve found the Asian brands to be very well machined (clean and precise under magnification), and, as you said, a high degree of actual perfect match weighting. The match weighting is the most impotent (0.05 +/-), but it is also nice to see that 0 in the tenth’s place because it just makes you feel like they gave a crap when they made the barrels haha I, and, essentially everyone I know who plays darts seriously, expects as close to perfection as it gets when they’re peeling £50,£60,£70+ quid on a set of bloody darts, ya know? Anyway, cheers, mate, look forward to your next video. Oh, I’d like to know more about that Korean co., Bullfighters? I know Koreans are very good craftsman and would love to check ‘em out if possible…
@@JosefHerrenhäusermann thanks I have quite a few Bullsfighter reviews but they are mostly soft tip. I have a lot that I never got round to reviewing mainly because people often moaned they were hard to get hold of but they always said they made their own tungsten and that it was higher quality than others but I can't say if that's true. My main issue with a lot of Asian brands is they often are made for rear grippers so not good for me as a frontie 😊 Cheers 👍
I pre ordered these in 21g and had the gold storm point fitted when supplied, find them to be as good a dart as I've ever had. Felt quite smug when Rob went on to win the Worlds too
RooieReetAap Hi, been using the storm point for around 2hours daily since obtaining the darts from about 5th Jan, no signs of wear and have been the most consistent dart owned
I used to weigh my darts a couple years ago, I found it put me off a hell of a lot knowing that they are 0.01g or whatever different from each other! Kinda played on my mind, anyone else found this?
I think a few people are like that, I guess it depends on how particular you are about such things but in reality there is no perceptible difference at such small discrepancies, even at 0.1g its doubtful people can feel the difference but as darts is often such a mental game then its understandable how small things can affect people if they think about. But if you get any pro players darts and weigh them after they have been using them for any length of time its highly unlikely they will be perfectly matched in weight and it does not stop them playing so well. The main reason for me weighing them when they are new is more of a test to see how good the manufacturers quality control is, if they have took the time to match weight them as close as possible then its good but most have a tolerance of 0.1g which is a tenth of a gram so as long as they are within that range its fine and some have a tolerance of 0.05g which is five hundredths of a gram so even better if they are within that range :)
Of course overtime your 23g dart will become lighter as the grip wears away and it's gets chipped when points and barrels collide with the darts! It's only MVG I can think of who's kept the exact same darts his whole career!
Not as much as I used to play, have too many injured joints these days so all depends on what aching whether or not I can get some practice in, sometimes I can go a couple of weeks or more without being able to throw.
I used to play about 2 to 3 hours, that was they only time I got decent playing that length of time but now I can manage around 45 mins to at most an hour but something usually aches after that lol
Darts Review Channel what weight of dart do you like I through 23 and just got the rob cross darts today and quite like them I bought them only because your vidoe
Its very difficult as I dont know how you hold or throw it, there is no one dart that is a perfect fit for all, check this thread in the forum for some ideas: dartsnutz.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=20089
And one more thing which I would be very curious about. What would you estimate how many of a set of cross or Anderson or gerwen darts are sold per year worldwide or in Europe or do you have any idea where to find specifics on that?
Its the most common design, I think its the one most start with and they just alter a little to make it suit so we end up with lots of similar player darts :)
its what is most commonly used by whoever is the main guy when people are young I think. Lots of the players have been brought up with Bristow darts and if you look now a lot of players are also using darts similar to Barneys and Taylors old Phase 1 and Phase 5.
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Great review, & nice darts, I actually met Rob at the premier league darts in Dublin a couple days ago, such a nice man, definitely picking these darts up
Yeah he seems a nice down to earth guy :)
I had a set of rob cross darts version 21 g and I won 2 tournaments with them this year and I play well with them in practice with normal spikes already assembled and I hit 2 180 lines and during one tournament I achieved a high finish at 155 and almost another time in the same tournament just misses the double 19.
Think I'll be getting these for when my season starts next year! Debated all year what ones to go for and rewatched this and I'm doing it.
Hope you're well - great review as always.
Thanks mate, yeah a good classic dart, cheers! :)
Another GREAT review Darren. Thank You for your time and commitment.
Thanks Derrick! :)
Another great structured review Darren with the usual personal friendly feel. Looking at these darts they look very similar to the Bristow darts I bought for my brother a very good looking and a standard preforming dart. I would like to say to add to your comment Darren I hope Phil has a great retirement and I have a feeling we may just see him in the commentary box as a guest in the future so all the best Phil and thanks for all you have done and achieved in darts. Cheers Dynamite Dave.
Cheers Dave! :) Yeah very similar to Brissys and a few others too :) I think Taylor is going to enjoy his retirement, sounds like he will still be very active in darts though :)
Bought a set of these during the final and the storm points along with it. Swapped them out and they flew lovely was taking the darts out if the board and 1 fell on the floor and snapped the point right on the barrel. Arrrgghhh.
Great review as always. Been watching them for about a yr now and i think you cost me more money than Paddy Power🤣🤣. Thanks again
I have heard quite a lot of people breaking the storm points now, put me off using them really. Lol sorry about costing you money, I hear that often haha :)
I have the 23 gram set of these they grip well I thought and to get a life time barrel guarantee with them I thought was good aswell they work quiet well for me but I'm no pro might get the 21 gram set for my collection soon thanks for all the vids mate keep up the good reviews thanks👍
Thanks Mike! :)
the silverback barrels is a bit longer. Cross darts is 4.8 cm long, that's better for me. if you want a thicker barrel than Dimitri van den Bergh is a must!
I bought these a few months back and put some supergrip carbon stems on and changed the flights and I have to say I'm loving these darts. I think this will be my go-to set for a fair while.
EDIT: forgot to add that the only thing I found a little on the disappointing side about them was the points, which were a little blunt and short, but I'll change them out soon and they should be perfect.
its a good simple style which should work well for lots of people. Glad to hear they are working well for you though :)
I have a set of these but I have robs actual match used darts what he used in a game in the Premier league this year they look different to these different points in and has the Rob Cross signature on them
I think they often have different or variations on what is actually sold
@@DartsReviewChannel yes they do mate. the darts what they use aren't the same what are sold to the public. I've seen someone with the Taylor phase 5s from argos and the Taylor phase 5s what are match used by him and the ones what are match used look different and they look better quality than the ones you can buy out of the shop
Ordered these yesterday, 23gram. Got a set of Alan tabbern 23s stone grip but fancied these.
Nice, its a great classic style dart :)
Darts Review Channel subscribed, keep up the good work man.👍🏻
Thanks Jamie, have you joined the forum too: www.dartsnutz.net/forum/
Darts Review Channel not yet, will have a gander.
Well I love a 48 mm Dart always have when I could shoot a straight Barrel since my severe thumb injury I have to shoot a short barrel I think you got those at the right price before they start engraving his name on the darts and you know they're going to go up and price big time they're kind of like the Allen Chuck Norris darts which I love and what I really liked on the review just a suggestion is showing the player with his grip that was really cool thanks for that great review man really appreciate you and what you do as always keep up the great work
Thanks Andy! Yeah I was thinking get them now before they put the price up lol
Review the new peter wright darts look beautiful
I used to use super grippy darts, I like these cause its a nice simple grip and leaves my fingers easily
yeah its all about what feels right for you in the end :)
Can you make a video of a top 5 darts you reviewed in 2017?
Will be doing a top ten soon
Awesome!
Good review Darren👍. I wonder what the Rob Cross World Champion limited edition darts are going to look like😉
Thanks Karl! Not sure but may be with gold points and a gold ring and his sig on :)
Darts Review Channel Yes I think your right Darren. Would be nice if they produced them in a limited gold barrel. Target do make a good and well presented dart, but the lack of player's signatures on the barrels is disappointing:(
Yeah I like gold darts :)
Just ordered these darts, normaly play with a bullet shaped dart, but these straight barrels are not as long as some, so give them a go, probably be on ebay in a few days lol...good review mate ..
Thanks Brian, its a good classic straight barrel style but there is a lot of darts like this, I used to hate straight barrel darts but I got used to them, usually around 48mm works best for me though. LOL I know what you mean about ebay though, I used to do the same thing, buy it one day then listed for a loss a few days later, crazy really lol! :)
I sold a joblot of darts during the week, made a 3 quid profit lol...but like you said, always a slight loss on most sales...like the look of Ryan Searles darts, but not seen them about, apart from in his hand, doubt he will sell them lol...See how i get on with the Cross darts, might take me to the next level, meaning my dart boards getting moved upstairs lol..
Yeah usually its at a loss, sometimes make a profit if its a rare or collectable set though. Upstairs darts, at least your moving up lol! :)
Nice Video Daren and one of my friends is Dan who works in Sainsbury’s in Haverhill and He was telling my mum about Rob Cross playing in the Pub which he plays in a League Tuesday Nights and Dan said if he sees Rob and he might ask Rob to sign something for me👍
Thanks Charlie! That sounds great, you should go and try to meet him if possible and get a few pics :)
I would like to see him and tell how is he doing and I forgot to say Rob is now the Number 3 seed. Last Year at the Cambridge Dart Masters I got to meet Raymond van Barneveld and got a picture of me and Raymond it has his signature and I got to meet Martin Adams and Bobby George and I got them to sign my Purple Shirt and how surprising!
Yeah its nice to meet the players and more often than not they are very happy to have a pic taken :)
Are you going to make a video of your favorite darts of 2017?
Yeah soon I hope :)
Not jumping on the band wagon but I might give these a go...
My old faithfuls are 48mm in length exactly and have seen these are too..
These may be but too grippy for me tho, do you have a list of other darts with 48mm barrel length as you seem to like shorter ones?
I think a good set of tungstens is needed now, mine are so old I think they are low grade...
Cheers
I would say give them a go, they are not super grippy just a little grippier than you may think. But Ian White darts are good and also the Bristows are similar :)
Nice dart seemed to suit u well how much did they cost I imagine quite a bit
Answer is at the beginning as usual :) Its also on the end on the pic in the background, £32.95 from Double Top darts, which is fairly costly for a basic design but for a high profile player and one who has now won a worlds its probably ok :)
This dart are good for beginners?
Do you recommend te 21gr or 23 gr?
Thanks mate.💪🏻
yeah should be a good one for beginners, 23g will be fine :)
Great review as always Darren.
Oh, congrats on surpassing the 11K mark as well.
Cheers Brad!
Excellent review once again Darren. I might have to give these a go. I like the fact of a straight barrel shorter than 50mm, but will prolly need a longer point also. Cheers mate.
Thanks Kevin! Target often put short points in their darts. :)
How are they compared to the Adrian Lewis Gen 2 and 3? They look quite similar :/
quite similar really
Thank you :)
Very nice from Voltage. When I first saw it, I thought it was a Unicorn design lol. And just an observation, my 19gm Paul Lim darts flew just as wild as the Rob Cross with Pear Flights did. Its a really interesting fishtailing but I sort of fixed it out by using the mid to rear grip instead.
Yeah its a similar design to a lot of darts I guess but also seems popular with many people because its just a tried and tested design that works well :)
Darts Review Channel agreed. It isn't the flashiest Target model either which will earn them more money haha. A less intimidating design than others.
Yeah but best to buy them quick before they add another £10 to the price lol :)
Have you done a review on the harrows ice 22g only been playing darts for the last month still using brass 22g but find myself playing at least an hour a day so looking for a good dart that won't break the budget for a middle gripper cheers
I have had a couple of sets of the ICE but never reviewed them, I did review the 24g Black Ice though. But I think its a nice dart overall, check this forum thread: dartsnutz.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=20088
Darts Review Channel cheers
Cross has had an insane first year. Was so lucky to get past Michael Smith as he was in sublime form plus the comeback from the young Belgian and mvg uncharecteristically missing match darts. Still a great player but I need to back mvg a few times this year to get some of my money back ! I backed him when he was 6/4 I'm tournaments and heist has the odd £10 then when he was 4/6 I put more on and always seem to lose! Love their rivalry just wish the bookies would be fairer with the odds as I'll always back mvg though you can only back him outright and even then hes odds on for all tournaments bar the premier league
Yeah very impressive year!
Great review mate, great looking darts, was thinking of picking these up, 23g😍😍😂, congrats on the 11k subscribers btw
Thanks! It's a good classic style so worth a go :)
which has better grip? arrows from Cross or van Gerwen?
Michael still uses the qmax arrows from the green box?
possibly the MVG's I think
Great in depth review. Thanks. Subscribed 👍
Thank you! :)
Are these an Eric Bristow copy? And what points do Rob Cross use? I see him use a golden storm-looking point but I still don't know. Thanks in advance!
He uses Target Gold Storm points with grip on I think
I dont know to be 100% sure, could be :)
They may bring out a special Rob Cross version now :)
Alright mate,
Yep these look good,simple and can grip anywhere.
Good stuff.
Thanks Jim, cant go wrong with a classic design really :)
as allways a great review daz the grip on these remind me of the red dragon javelin dart real cheap and nice grip on them when do you plan to do a long term review of your unicorn board would like to see a video on how it looks before I buy one cheers again daz
Thanks! You can see the unicorn board in my Nico Blum review, its a bit holy now :)
Can you do a Review of the One80 Meteors? I can't find a review anywhere on them and like the look
Will add them to the request list :)
Should have gone for the treble treble treble 18 with those arrows. just saying.
LOL if only I was good enough :)
Winmau navigators from Argos bassicly the same dart
Yep many similar sets out there :)
Thanks mate.
I would love to see a video in which u explain the length-relation between the barrel and the shaft and its impact on the flight characteristics...sorry for my bad english 🙈
I understand what you mean, it gets a bit complicated though as not everything works the same for everyone, its often very personal to each individual but I may try and do some sort of guide when I get chance :)
Darts Review Channel 👍🏻 yes, i know. But maybe it would also help :)
Im sure you will do a Great job as always 💪🏻
Will see what I can do if I get chance :)
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Great Video! Little question.. Do you play on Blade 4 or 5? And wich Board do you prefer?
Thanks! I give my B4 to my nephew I have a few boards that I rotate now, I think the B4 lasted better than B5 though :)
Darts Review Channel The Blade 4 is more expensive as Blade 5 isn't it? Can you tell me how much you practised on your Blade 4 and when was the first time, you rotate your Board? Please guess, if you are not Sure🙏
Not sure on current prices but its best to rotate weekly, my B4 was a couple years old
Darts Review Channel How many Darts Sets do you have?
100s :)
Which stem length does rob cross uses?
Not sure think its Inbetween
Okay Thank you
Plan on doing the New Paul Nicholsons anytime soon?
They are on my list but not sure when I will get them :)
The assets? Gross
And plus on the 27th Of January at Norwich I’m gonna be at The UK Open Qualifies which’s on Saturday almost the end of January and what do you think about me?
You competing? Best of luck!!! :)
Of course Darren And I’ll tell how I get on At Norwich on the 27th of January and thanks Darren
Should be good experience for you :)
Great review as usual on the Rob Cross darts Darren, anywhere over 50 mm long would have put them in my basket
Thanks Chris! :)
They can’t even get the bloody world champ’s dart at close to 23g or matched weight to exactly 23g?! I think it is careless when dart manufacturers say a dart weighs 23g or 21g, whatever, and you weigh them and they’re 23.1 something or 23.2 something - ESPECIALLY when you’ve paid £60, £70 + for them! Anyway, I get it that nobody can feel .1 something, but it is the principle of the fact regarding a buyer’s expectation of quality and care that companies are supposed to be putting into their products. Anyways, even after that rant, I still own a set of these and love ‘em hahaha. They epitomize my preferred dart. Thanks for the review/content, it’s always fun to watch your videos, Darren mate.
There has not been many darts which are an exact 23.00 or whatever weight the box says, its never that easy to get such a perfect weight as the tungsten itself can have more or less the density and quality of another barrel, its always going to be a case of getting as close as possible. As long as the barrels are within the usual +/- 0.1 or 0.05 gram as stated on the box its fine. :) Cheers! :)
@@DartsReviewChannel yes, but what I am saying is when darts manufacturers demand a PREMIUM price for their darts as they do so today, I am expect some close attention to detail. I’m NOT talking about my desire to see the barrels EXACTLY 25g or whatever it is advertised as, but I do expect there to be a zero in the tenth’s place; there are countless video on YOUR CHANNEL haha and many others where the darts have that zero in the tenth’s place. It may sound pedantic, but darts manufacturers are, apparently, more than capable of doing so on a massively consistent basis, so there is really no excuse for some to be thought of as, “eh, close enough. They’ll probably won’t ever weigh ‘em.” It is, however, paramount that they are ALL three within that 0.05g guarantee of each other, again, to show attention to detail in order to substantiate these often absurd prices demanded for darts. It isn’t about wanting them to be 25.0000000058987, but having that zero in the tenth’s place is not too much to expect, that’s all I’m saying, mate. Cheers
Yeah I understand, I just mean if it is advertised on the box as within the 0.05g or 0.10g then the least we can expect is that all 3 barrels are within that range of being matched. How close that figure is to the whole number is another matter as is the price to quality control ratio. But I do agree that within reason it should be possible for them to be as close as possible. I know some brands have and do do it but they are often Asian brands that charge even more for the privilege of getting a perfectly matched set. Best I have seen on many of their darts is South Korean brand Bullsfighter, nearly every set I ever had were perfectly matched and they were not too crazily priced compared to some of the Japanese brands. Not many brands form their own tungsten billets, it's nearly all bought from China these days. But you can machine 3 billets exactly the same and that still does not guarantee that the barrels will be perfectly matched. Because the tungsten will not be 100% equal in density, it will be very close though. So to get the barrels perfect or as close to as possible they have to go through each barrel matching them, which is what I would expect them to do at the very least. If there is still not a close enough match then they would have to drill some tungsten out which means extra work and I think they would charge even more then. I would assume if the quality of tungsten is good enough then they should only need to match by picking 3 barrels close in weight though and I think it is clear that sometimes they don't seem to have done that. I know there has been plenty of instances in my reviews where the barrels are not matched within the range stated. It's not good when that happens but also not the end of the world, suppose it depends on the individual's view on it. I've never known anyone send a set back because of it but I think there's been a few where it's been so far out I guess that I could have. Again I agree that these days it should be less of a problem as the machines have become much more refined but it still happens, more than likely just down to poor quality control.
@@DartsReviewChannel yes, it all boils down to attention to detail and a matter of how much pride manufactures put into their darts. I’ve found the Asian brands to be very well machined (clean and precise under magnification), and, as you said, a high degree of actual perfect match weighting. The match weighting is the most impotent (0.05 +/-), but it is also nice to see that 0 in the tenth’s place because it just makes you feel like they gave a crap when they made the barrels haha I, and, essentially everyone I know who plays darts seriously, expects as close to perfection as it gets when they’re peeling £50,£60,£70+ quid on a set of bloody darts, ya know? Anyway, cheers, mate, look forward to your next video. Oh, I’d like to know more about that Korean co., Bullfighters? I know Koreans are very good craftsman and would love to check ‘em out if possible…
@@JosefHerrenhäusermann thanks I have quite a few Bullsfighter reviews but they are mostly soft tip. I have a lot that I never got round to reviewing mainly because people often moaned they were hard to get hold of but they always said they made their own tungsten and that it was higher quality than others but I can't say if that's true. My main issue with a lot of Asian brands is they often are made for rear grippers so not good for me as a frontie 😊 Cheers 👍
Great review as always
Thanks mate! :)
The Winmau Foxfire are looking similar.
I pre ordered these in 21g and had the gold storm point fitted when supplied, find them to be as good a dart as I've ever had. Felt quite smug when Rob went on to win the Worlds too
Its one of those darts that just work well for a lot of people I think :)
RooieReetAap Hi, been using the storm point for around 2hours daily since obtaining the darts from about 5th Jan, no signs of wear and have been the most consistent dart owned
Can you review the winmau blackout
They are on my long request list already :)
Niceeeeeee!
Great review as always 👍🏻
Thanks mate! :)
When you doing a video on your best darts of 2017?
Soon :)
Darts Review Channel, brilliant news i loved the last one you did
Its a tough one though as I reviewed over 100 sets last year :)
nice Review. For me is the Barrel a littelbitte to smal from the length. Have you a Review of the Joe cullen contender 2017? Do you have instagram?
Thanks! I have reviewed Cullens older darts not his recent ones. I did make an Instagram account but I never use it.
Nice review as always
Thanks mate! :)
Target Agora review? Look like a really well priced dart!
They are on my list :)
I used to weigh my darts a couple years ago, I found it put me off a hell of a lot knowing that they are 0.01g or whatever different from each other! Kinda played on my mind, anyone else found this?
I think a few people are like that, I guess it depends on how particular you are about such things but in reality there is no perceptible difference at such small discrepancies, even at 0.1g its doubtful people can feel the difference but as darts is often such a mental game then its understandable how small things can affect people if they think about. But if you get any pro players darts and weigh them after they have been using them for any length of time its highly unlikely they will be perfectly matched in weight and it does not stop them playing so well. The main reason for me weighing them when they are new is more of a test to see how good the manufacturers quality control is, if they have took the time to match weight them as close as possible then its good but most have a tolerance of 0.1g which is a tenth of a gram so as long as they are within that range its fine and some have a tolerance of 0.05g which is five hundredths of a gram so even better if they are within that range :)
Of course overtime your 23g dart will become lighter as the grip wears away and it's gets chipped when points and barrels collide with the darts! It's only MVG I can think of who's kept the exact same darts his whole career!
LOL yeah MVG but there was some guy the other year who had a set for over 30 years and one was nearly 3g lighter than the others! :)
Madness! Suppose we can't all afford to get a new set like Anderson every 4-6 weeks
Kane Read didnt cross play with darts which had 3 different weights before he were sponsored by target?
Yes plz sumthinh me and my dad never won any on a raffles
I will be posting about it soon, tomorrow hopefully :)
LOVE.YOUR.VIDEOS!!
Thanks! :)
Niceeeeee! Thanks!
The darts I seen Rob Cross throw have different tips on them. IT's a ribbed tip for sure. How much, or where would you find those ones?
you mean points?
@@DartsReviewChannel Yeah, I suppose. Never seen them. Is that something you buy and insert. Or have to order specifically?
Yeah, go to any online darts shop and they will have lots of different points to choose from :)
Class videos mate keep it up
Cheers! Will do my best :)
the barrel looks slippery
Its just a medium grip, for some it might be slippy.
Good channel subbed
Do you play darts often
Not as much as I used to play, have too many injured joints these days so all depends on what aching whether or not I can get some practice in, sometimes I can go a couple of weeks or more without being able to throw.
Darts Review Channel ok sorry to hear about that I play five hours a day 🤙
I used to play about 2 to 3 hours, that was they only time I got decent playing that length of time but now I can manage around 45 mins to at most an hour but something usually aches after that lol
Darts Review Channel what weight of dart do you like I through 23 and just got the rob cross darts today and quite like them I bought them only because your vidoe
23g id my usual weight :)
Can I use these darts with rear Grip?
You can but there is not a lot of grip on the barrel at the rear
@@DartsReviewChannel can you recommend me a dart which is perfect for rear grip ? Sry for my english
Its very difficult as I dont know how you hold or throw it, there is no one dart that is a perfect fit for all, check this thread in the forum for some ideas: dartsnutz.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=20089
Arent this the red dragon javelin darts?
No, its Target Rob Cross :)
@@DartsReviewChannel yeah but it looks like red dragon javelin😲
its such a simple dart that there is many that look like it, its probably the most common type, like the original Bristow ring grip :)
@@DartsReviewChannel thank you :)
Where did you get them?
DoubleTop Darts as it says in the forum review, link in description :)
Thanks them on ebay for 29,50€ great reviews, they are very helpful and did you like the darts by the way?
And one more thing which I would be very curious about.
What would you estimate how many of a set of cross or Anderson or gerwen darts are sold per year worldwide or in Europe or do you have any idea where to find specifics on that?
Cheers! Yeah its a nice classic straight barrel ring grip :)
Would not have a clue but has to be many tens of thousands I figure, may be even 100's of thousands?
Are these darts front weighted or centre weighted pal?
more centred
How many straight barrel darts do the world need!?
Its the most common design, I think its the one most start with and they just alter a little to make it suit so we end up with lots of similar player darts :)
...Just exploiting Trends ...the old eric Bristows are best everytime! ....
its what is most commonly used by whoever is the main guy when people are young I think. Lots of the players have been brought up with Bristow darts and if you look now a lot of players are also using darts similar to Barneys and Taylors old Phase 1 and Phase 5.
Kind of look like silverback's darts
As I said in the review and posted a pic to show how similar they are :)
Still...out of stock...EVERYWHERE.
Must have got popular again.
A-z darts has some
I bought some off amazon yesterday. They are in stock if you still want them👊👊👊
And now rob have new darts
:)
@@DartsReviewChannel new darts and old boots again hehe
lol :)
Exceptional year for a guy who throws a bogstandard dart!!!!Nice simple dart!!
Yeah sure is, hope he continues playing so well :)
He's a quality dartplayer!!!He'll be quality for a long time i think
Aye up
Way aye man! :)
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Thanks! :)
I got 21 Grams darts and the darts fall out my board
try to scrape the points with sandpaper or fine file. might help increase the friction enough
I have a set of these if anyone is interested in a swap?