I’ve been wanting this type of video explaining the balls and which bats work with what balls and what can’t be touched by them.. like IN DETAIL! Love your vids !!
So glad you did this video. The 4tf bat is the same end load. I have several of these since you started these videos everyone is starting to grab these to try. They are defiantly making a statement. The sound I have noticed as they get closer to the 240 250 changes dramtically
@@BradRofkahr I don’t know I do not h e this model but the 4tf is hotter then any of the half oz end loads. The kings and Sanchez any of the 1/2 oz end load are not as hot as APG2 or the 4TF
@@kenbruno8774 They all are literally the same bat just different end loads, I have the cotton candy LS Genny and it's a half ounce and is every bit as hot as my Marshburn and Lady Genny
The red paint almost instantly started to flake off my Purcell. Under the red paint was the white paint, and it is in great shape with absolutely no issues. So my issue is just with the graphics over the white paint. After about 300 hits I'm going to have a completely white bat. LOL
Got to swing some today. Performance and sound out of the wrapper is crazy. Glad I went with the 25.5. I think the 26.5 would’ve swung too heavy and left me behind.
My Marshburn cracked after only 60 swings, probably a bad batch, however, it was juicy up until then! My replacement just got delivered today can't wait to get back out there with it!
Same here with my Sanchez in El Paso 60-65 degrees only gaming it after my first genesis broke in 3 days. Only gaming the Sanchez lasted maybe 100 cuts
I have the Everett Williams. Got about 100 hits and it split missing big chunks. Our season doesn't even start until Tuesday. My buddy's mashburn is holding pretty good though
I’d like to see some Classic M and 52/300 ball comparisons. There’s so many different balls people swear by, but I think it’d be cool to see some exit velo numbers. Just a thought….
For classic M I'll just say that Gold Dot Extremes are the best balls out. They don't get mushy in the heat, and are hard as rocks. Very hard on bats, though. .52s are way more even. They all perform pretty similarly.
Ya i broke one on about 20 25 swings the problem is they have no stock for warranties if you didn't get a return yet except something in a heavy weight they sent me a f4t 27.5 not very happy with louisville slugger at the moment best of luck
My buddy just got one of those new genesis’s and he put about 50 half swings on it and then used it in a tournament last weekend when it was 65 degrees out and it cracked
Update the Tyler Marshburn fell apart quick. My Balanced Red (Iron Man) is a tank and hits bombs. Already warranted Marshburn and have the new yellow and blue coming.
Yea my buddy got this bay the other day an it completely busted within first 20 to 30 swings so they sent him a replacement an we took 30 to 40 light cuts with it then he opened an swung full swing a busted it again not a very durable bat at all but is definitely hot as hell out the wrapper
I’d like to see what you guys think of the best bat for clinchers! I’m in a modified league that uses clinchers and have read that bats can very slightly for that specific ball. Any suggestions????
Swing 1P bats for those. The APG Black 1P is best one piece bat currently in my opinion. Or if you can get a hold of the Orange Miken Recoil 1P then great. I see them on eBay all the time. Buy them used since they are tanks and will last forever. And if all else fails and you want to save yourself the money, get a good old school metal bat for those balls. Point is the 2P bats rely more on trampoline effect due to flex, while 1P bats just hit the ball.
Got ya, makes sense. Money isn’t a factor here so I want to make sure I get the best bat for me with the best results. I’m currently using a Miken DC41 Supermax 2020 edition 26 oz. I’m thinking of going up another oz to 27.
Great content as always! When are you gonna be dropping the 1000+ cuts Anarchy velo test video? Real curious how a broken in Anarchy will compare to a broken in M2 or M5 construction…
The biggest thing to avoid is high compression balls. The COR value does not influence the damage to bats as much as the compression does. The Evil BP balls have very low compression and High COR to let them fly far and deal minimal damage to the bat. You are really looking to avoid anything above 400 compression as these can cause damage to 240 bats, this is why the stadiums and gold dot extremes can be bad for bats.
Not completely true. COR absolutely affects bat life/damage more in most instances. Low COR balls like 40s/44s kill bats exponentially faster than compression, especially under 60 degrees because COR directly affects how much energy is transferred into the barrel throughout contact and it extrapolates the colder it gets. 52s stay relatively the same density as to not alter the balls behavior in different temps. Low COR the barrel flexing does the work, high COR the type of bat, contact quality, and the bounciness of the ball does the work. That's why Monsta owns ASA/USA with their tech for the 52 COR balls. Not trashing your take, just saying that it has a huge impact on bat life.
The og freaks with e flex technology the freak limited edition, freak plus ( the one that says plus not the 2012 one) , the freak 98 you could use harder balls like 44 cor balls and they take forever to break in ( 1000 plus swings) but once broken in they still last for thousands more . My dad has had the plus and the limited edition freak but he still has the 98 and it is STILL not broken in. But when you barrel it up you can hear the difference. But if you want a really hot bat . The miken ultra 2 with e flex technology that they brought back out I have owned several when it first came out. Once the ultra 2 cracks it will keep getting hotter and hotter.
I have an Everrett Williams coming here soon and would like some advice on how to break it in without breaking the bat. I have Classic M's that are .40/325 that I'll be using to hit some balls off the tee. I figure on taking 50-100 75% swings off the tee before using it in a game the same night. I'm more of a contact hitter so I chose the Williams over the 4 the Fallen and the Marshburn due to them having a full 1 ounce endload. Hope I didn't buy the wrong bat. Lots of people are breaking these Williams after only 50+ hits.
I thought it was mainly about compression and not Cor when determining how hard a ball is. Classic Plus balls are 275, Classic M's are 325, Pro M's are 375 and Stadium's are 450. I've used mainly Classic M's and have yet to break a bat in cold or hot weather. Are you saying I can't use Classic M's with a Loisville Slugger bat?
52/300s work great for BP....we hit them exclusively and have not broken any bats this winter...the 44/375s broke 3 before we switched to the 52s....i love these Genesis bats...i have at least one of each of the models and they all perform top notch....next up for you guys, you have to review Suncoast Austin Dawe Balanced 12 inch U-trip....you might want to do the 1 piece new Ruckus that just came out last week also....rumor has it, that it has senior bat performance...wolf in sheep's clothing
@@Patman1666 we use the dudley 52/300 and some AD starr...the Evil 52s seem a little harder than other 52s and are said to break bats...either that or your guys are pure mashers
Trying to debate on which Genesis to get is going to be a struggle...Could you guys do a review of the ASA/USA 4 The Fallen...I have one in the bag and wanna see your guys thoughts on the comparison to the Utrip version
would you recommend these for mens fastpitch softball? never seen them outside of these videos, everyone swings Miken Freaks or Easton synergy’s and B1’s
We need a Demarini Steele review, like a 2016 or 2018. It's a double stamp and every team in my league has about 6 of them because we're not allowed composite barrels, and these are stupid hot.
I’m the bigger guy swinging with him in the video. The genesis is about the only thing I’ve swung in the last two years and personally the two piece and one piece feel exactly the stiffness wise too me.
I have asked a few times, but I will ask again. What do you do with all the bats you review? I know this was your buddies but do you give them back or just keep them? I was wondering if there was any way for like a give a way or to buy them off you guys.
This was my bat and I personally wouldn’t sell it. I believe Will has a stash that he’d trade with people for stuff he hasn’t swung yet. Message him and find out you knew never know
4tf is this bat with a different paint job it's stupid hot like all the genesis bat but they are very fragile be very careful especially early on how someone who hits like will has a andy that is fine blows my mind lol
I bought this one. Took it to the cage the other day, and after I noticed a small paint crease thats vertical goin up the barrel. Is that a crack do you think? or just a paint seam?
Contact LS and send them pics. They will tell you or maybe even send you a warranty replacement. Apparently they’re quick with returns. However, these Ls 240 bats are known to seam quickly.
Stadiums are 47 Cor. Basically anything that says classic M on it is a bat breaker no matter if it’s evil, Dudley, or worth. A lot of the super gold dot extremes are 44 400 so they’re OK. And anything higher than 400comp is not good for 240 bats.
I just swung this version of the bat and not more than 25 swings in, the bat cracks or a paint chip has happened. Not sure what to make of the issue since it was "fixed".
@@slowpitchbros I swung a mix of pro m’s and Evil bp 52+’s. There may have been one or two classic m’s but I was inside when I swung the bat. I could send you picture of it if you’d like to see the crack or paint chip
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You should do a video explaining the different types of softballs, and how they react with the different types of softball bats.
this one is it🙏🏽
I’ve been wanting this type of video explaining the balls and which bats work with what balls and what can’t be touched by them.. like IN DETAIL! Love your vids !!
He still ain't did it 😂
Didn’t need a bat before these genesis videos. Bought this bat immediately after this video using the promo code. Don’t tell my wife. Thanks guys!
How nice of you to include some rec guys in the video 😂 Gives everyone a reference point. Was waiting for Maxie to hit a Dinger
🤣🤣 he hit the fence a couple of times lol
It was a struggle morning dude. I'll hit one for a video another time and blow ya a kiss
@@maxpigeon hey man you did your best nice to see you
@@donaldgange3957 Miss ya bud
@@maxpigeon miss ya too man it’s been too long
So glad you did this video. The 4tf bat is the same end load. I have several of these since you started these videos everyone is starting to grab these to try. They are defiantly making a statement. The sound I have noticed as they get closer to the 240 250 changes dramtically
How does the 4TF bat compare to this model? I know they are the same weight, but is the 4TF bat just as hot?
@@catastrophechris7049 thank you
@@BradRofkahr I don’t know I do not h e this model but the 4tf is hotter then any of the half oz end loads. The kings and Sanchez any of the 1/2 oz end load are not as hot as APG2 or the 4TF
@@kenbruno8774 They all are literally the same bat just different end loads, I have the cotton candy LS Genny and it's a half ounce and is every bit as hot as my Marshburn and Lady Genny
@@baseketball85 where did you get that one I have not been able to find any of those
My most favorite bat I’ve ever swung. I wish I would have bought 2 of the Tyler Marshburn signature
I got the Lady Geny and the Marshburn at the same time. Broke my Lady on the first swing but the marshburn is absolutely gas
The red paint almost instantly started to flake off my Purcell. Under the red paint was the white paint, and it is in great shape with absolutely no issues. So my issue is just with the graphics over the white paint. After about 300 hits I'm going to have a completely white bat. LOL
Please do a Louisville Slugger 4 The Fallen USA/WBSC review
Mine should deliver tomorrow. $255 out the door with the code. Thanks for getting one!!!!
Got to swing some today. Performance and sound out of the wrapper is crazy. Glad I went with the 25.5. I think the 26.5 would’ve swung too heavy and left me behind.
My Marshburn cracked after only 60 swings, probably a bad batch, however, it was juicy up until then! My replacement just got delivered today can't wait to get back out there with it!
The whole 240 line has been good
Yes. Looking forward to that beautiful blue.
I just broke my marshburn. Took it out of the wrapper and cracked after 30 swings. Hitting 52 core
Same here about 50 swings in put a large seam. It was 46° out in Albuquerque when it happened
Same here with my Sanchez in El Paso 60-65 degrees only gaming it after my first genesis broke in 3 days. Only gaming the Sanchez lasted maybe 100 cuts
Bro, Warstic made a Bonesaber slow pitch utrip 240 🤯
Cracked my APG2 in 50 swings! Blew my mind. Crazy HOT bat though!
First few swings were all arms. Will has been hitting the weights! Hitting big time jacks. I love the austim awareness color scheme on the middle bat.
I have the Everett Williams. Got about 100 hits and it split missing big chunks. Our season doesn't even start until Tuesday. My buddy's mashburn is holding pretty good though
I’d like to see some Classic M and 52/300 ball comparisons. There’s so many different balls people swear by, but I think it’d be cool to see some exit velo numbers. Just a thought….
For classic M I'll just say that Gold Dot Extremes are the best balls out. They don't get mushy in the heat, and are hard as rocks. Very hard on bats, though. .52s are way more even. They all perform pretty similarly.
Another dope video fellas. Video 5 of asking for a hitting tips video, I can’t be the only one askin! Keep doin y’all’s thing tho
Straight up ! I want hitting tips no doubt !
I'm about to drop some money for you new utrip practice balls what kind of batting practice balls should I buy if I'm swinging mainly 240s
Looks like I’m victim to the Marshburn cracking also. So much for the fix. 10-15 swings in and it’s done. Hopefully they stand behind it.
Broke my Williams at 20 swings….
Ya i broke one on about 20 25 swings the problem is they have no stock for warranties if you didn't get a return yet except something in a heavy weight they sent me a f4t 27.5 not very happy with louisville slugger at the moment best of luck
@@tbone7353Christ I haven’t sent mine back yet thanks for the heads up
@@highhitproductions ya i would probably wait until you see some stock come in on their website before sending it back
Could you do a video on the new Watermelon XL??
My buddy just got one of those new genesis’s and he put about 50 half swings on it and then used it in a tournament last weekend when it was 65 degrees out and it cracked
Way to cold
Stuck between these and the rukkus. Swung the new suncoast and I’m torn for sure.
Just picked up a new genisis with your code. Thank you!
If could choose between a 220 Miken and a 240 genesis which would you go with? Which is hotter?
All right that Bros or Louisville I need to sponsorship going on so far since this video came out I've had seven people order this bat. LOL
Update the Tyler Marshburn fell apart quick. My Balanced Red (Iron Man) is a tank and hits bombs. Already warranted Marshburn and have the new yellow and blue coming.
LOVE IT!! hope you get a chance to test the Purple and Gold version (canada sports excellence exclusiv
e)
Pretty sure that’s the Kobe Bryant Version
My 4 the fallen got a little seam after 10 swings on 52’s but flipped it around been hacking with it haven’t seen anything else and bat is amazing .
Is the fallen model the same as the marshburn
@@arod3rdmar same specs pretty sure
Yea my buddy got this bay the other day an it completely busted within first 20 to 30 swings so they sent him a replacement an we took 30 to 40 light cuts with it then he opened an swung full swing a busted it again not a very durable bat at all but is definitely hot as hell out the wrapper
I’d like to see what you guys think of the best bat for clinchers! I’m in a modified league that uses clinchers and have read that bats can very slightly for that specific ball. Any suggestions????
Swing 1P bats for those.
The APG Black 1P is best one piece bat currently in my opinion.
Or if you can get a hold of the Orange Miken Recoil 1P then great. I see them on eBay all the time. Buy them used since they are tanks and will last forever.
And if all else fails and you want to save yourself the money, get a good old school metal bat for those balls.
Point is the 2P bats rely more on trampoline effect due to flex, while 1P bats just hit the ball.
Got ya, makes sense. Money isn’t a factor here so I want to make sure I get the best bat for me with the best results. I’m currently using a Miken DC41 Supermax 2020 edition 26 oz. I’m thinking of going up another oz to 27.
Great content as always! When are you gonna be dropping the 1000+ cuts Anarchy velo test video? Real curious how a broken in Anarchy will compare to a broken in M2 or M5 construction…
Will you be doing the review of the Everett Williams Genesis??
They got a 12” barrel model coming out soon too
12” and a one piece 240 coming soon
Have you tried the black and yellow Everett Williams genesis yet?
Been waiting to see you swing the new models. Planning on ordering this weekend.
The biggest thing to avoid is high compression balls. The COR value does not influence the damage to bats as much as the compression does. The Evil BP balls have very low compression and High COR to let them fly far and deal minimal damage to the bat. You are really looking to avoid anything above 400 compression as these can cause damage to 240 bats, this is why the stadiums and gold dot extremes can be bad for bats.
Not completely true. COR absolutely affects bat life/damage more in most instances. Low COR balls like 40s/44s kill bats exponentially faster than compression, especially under 60 degrees because COR directly affects how much energy is transferred into the barrel throughout contact and it extrapolates the colder it gets. 52s stay relatively the same density as to not alter the balls behavior in different temps. Low COR the barrel flexing does the work, high COR the type of bat, contact quality, and the bounciness of the ball does the work. That's why Monsta owns ASA/USA with their tech for the 52 COR balls. Not trashing your take, just saying that it has a huge impact on bat life.
I thought the evil BP balls were 48/425...
The genesis looks and sounds nice
The og freaks with e flex technology the freak limited edition, freak plus ( the one that says plus not the 2012 one) , the freak 98 you could use harder balls like 44 cor balls and they take forever to break in ( 1000 plus swings) but once broken in they still last for thousands more . My dad has had the plus and the limited edition freak but he still has the 98 and it is STILL not broken in. But when you barrel it up you can hear the difference. But if you want a really hot bat . The miken ultra 2 with e flex technology that they brought back out I have owned several when it first came out. Once the ultra 2 cracks it will keep getting hotter and hotter.
I recently picked up a Dirty 240 hopefully I don't have any durability issues.
What's the difference between the Purcell and the sanchez?
Extra points for the chiefs jersey 👍
Whaaaaat y’all are sold out do we still get the $60 off when they restock
That Goofy laugh at 5:05 lolll
I have an Everrett Williams coming here soon and would like some advice on how to break it in without breaking the bat. I have Classic M's that are .40/325 that I'll be using to hit some balls off the tee. I figure on taking 50-100 75% swings off the tee before using it in a game the same night. I'm more of a contact hitter so I chose the Williams over the 4 the Fallen and the Marshburn due to them having a full 1 ounce endload. Hope I didn't buy the wrong bat. Lots of people are breaking these Williams after only 50+ hits.
Man I wished y'all would do a video on the louisville senior slugger with exit vilo
I thought it was mainly about compression and not Cor when determining how hard a ball is. Classic Plus balls are 275, Classic M's are 325, Pro M's are 375 and Stadium's are 450. I've used mainly Classic M's and have yet to break a bat in cold or hot weather. Are you saying I can't use Classic M's with a Loisville Slugger bat?
Notis hit at the right time as always😎
Just got the LS “the fallen” great bat. You guys should review it as well.
It is the exact same bat
You hit the new 240 Demarini CL22 Stadiums yet?
52/300s work great for BP....we hit them exclusively and have not broken any bats this winter...the 44/375s broke 3 before we switched to the 52s....i love these Genesis bats...i have at least one of each of the models and they all perform top notch....next up for you guys, you have to review Suncoast Austin Dawe Balanced 12 inch U-trip....you might want to do the 1 piece new Ruckus that just came out last week also....rumor has it, that it has senior bat performance...wolf in sheep's clothing
I literally just bought a brand new genesis swung all 52s and less than 100 swings all indoor and its already cracking
The yellow ruckus?
@@unofficialname4637 Blue usssa 12 inch balanced version
@@Patman1666 we use the dudley 52/300 and some AD starr...the Evil 52s seem a little harder than other 52s and are said to break bats...either that or your guys are pure mashers
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Trying to debate on which Genesis to get is going to be a struggle...Could you guys do a review of the ASA/USA 4 The Fallen...I have one in the bag and wanna see your guys thoughts on the comparison to the Utrip version
This made me go buy the geny would love a video on it
would you recommend these for mens fastpitch softball? never seen them outside of these videos, everyone swings Miken Freaks or Easton synergy’s and B1’s
Can’t wait to swing mine tomorrow
Why you guys don't have 4 the fallen bat review?
what's up with that FU Dawg Exclusive- waiting to see the review before grabbing one or should i just get it?
Waiting on the Watermelon's. :)
You think 105 would be good with the marsburn
This bat or the 2022 DC41 Supermax end load? Which one is hotter?
Hey bat bro. Will LS comeout with a 14" barrel genesis?
Monsta has a new USSSA bat "Trippin" coming out eta May 1ish. Would love some feedback if you can get one of those.
Been swinging a balanced 27oz Psycho with good results. Would the 26.5 or 25.5 be closer? My other gamer was a 26oz CL22.
Worth Krecher 2022 some time ? Or the new melons ?
We need a Demarini Steele review, like a 2016 or 2018. It's a double stamp and every team in my league has about 6 of them because we're not allowed composite barrels, and these are stupid hot.
My experience with the Steels has been great. I still have an OG Raw Steel that I try to sneak out everyone once in a while.
I was thinking about buying this bat for a church leauge / special Olympics
Gonna ever get more "Nuke" merch in??
Are you guys ever gonna review the pure NDM series? Seems like you guys only deal with bats with “names” on them.
yep just recorded it
Are the Marshburn and the Geny the same bat?
Yes. And the 4TF.
Everett Williams, Sanchez,koby, all same. All half ounce endload. The marsh, Sanchez, genny are all 1 oz endload. Aka power load.
The Balaced bat is the Ironman . The .75 endload is the Apg2.
How does the new 4 The Fallen ASA bat compare?
How's the durability on these did they fix it
Please do a ball tutorial!
Hows this compare to a kp23 220 version. I play at the local club level. thanks
Curious what you prefer in this 1 piece vs 2 piece? Or if you noticed any difference. Have that red/white Genny and its nasty!
I’m the bigger guy swinging with him in the video. The genesis is about the only thing I’ve swung in the last two years and personally the two piece and one piece feel exactly the stiffness wise too me.
I have asked a few times, but I will ask again. What do you do with all the bats you review? I know this was your buddies but do you give them back or just keep them? I was wondering if there was any way for like a give a way or to buy them off you guys.
This was my bat and I personally wouldn’t sell it. I believe Will has a stash that he’d trade with people for stuff he hasn’t swung yet. Message him and find out you knew never know
Do NDM1 and 2
Love the vids!
Cmon bro pleaseee!!! Lol do a clincher video
That’s what I’m saying! Lol
Dude I game a Purcell ‘17 Worth Legit xxL lets go!!
Can you do a review of the Easton Salvo XL pls 😊
Have you swung the 4 the fallen LS? What did you think compared to the other Gennys?
4tf is this bat with a different paint job it's stupid hot like all the genesis bat but they are very fragile be very careful especially early on how someone who hits like will has a andy that is fine blows my mind lol
I bought this one. Took it to the cage the other day, and after I noticed a small paint crease thats vertical goin up the barrel. Is that a crack do you think? or just a paint seam?
Contact LS and send them pics. They will tell you or maybe even send you a warranty replacement. Apparently they’re quick with returns. However, these Ls 240 bats are known to seam quickly.
1 piece suncoast coming?
Try out the slowpitch Warstic Bonesaber!
How do u hit so damn far consistently every time??? How do u generate that much power
He said it was cold. Will knows how to swing for sure, but cold weather makes the balls harder which creates more compression.
Do you guys sell bats used?
Stadiums are 47 Cor. Basically anything that says classic M on it is a bat breaker no matter if it’s evil, Dudley, or worth. A lot of the super gold dot extremes are 44 400 so they’re OK. And anything higher than 400comp is not good for 240 bats.
Just picked up the 4 the fallen. Anybody have one and can share their experience with performance/durability ?
I have one, I have about 100 swings on it, no durability issues so far. Absolute gas ⛽️!
Just picked up my Sanchez
My sanchez has some hairline paint cracks going but it's hot now.
I dont even play usssa and I want one!!
Waiting for a John kings bat review
Are the all BLACK one piece APG a full ounce end load like this mashburn?
0.75 oz
Hey anyone in the comments need some help here … I’m starting a modified softball league what bat should I buy ??
I want to see u swing the new 9r in a 25
I just swung this version of the bat and not more than 25 swings in, the bat cracks or a paint chip has happened. Not sure what to make of the issue since it was "fixed".
yikes!! Guess it ain't fixed. I'll do an LS durability review soon
Just cracked the Williams version after one day
What balls are you hitting lol I haven’t had that issue yet
@@slowpitchbros I swung a mix of pro m’s and Evil bp 52+’s. There may have been one or two classic m’s but I was inside when I swung the bat. I could send you picture of it if you’d like to see the crack or paint chip
@@slowpitchbros Classic M's and Classic W's for us. It was in the 70s outside too.
Whats the brand of pine tar you use?
I bet he use the tiger bat wax?
I’d have to disagree with the durability issues just swung my Williams NIW today for the first time and seamed it in 25 swings….
they all get paint seams easily
You were the guy who almost fought Nino?????
Lol no I’ve never met him
What oz are you swinging
26.5
@@slowpitchbros awesome brother! I just ordered one from Tyler marshburn himself. I'm excited to swing it after seeing you swing it
Max my boy
Do nanother hr derby with 240 bats!