For criticism of the end: Yes, I know you believe some of the bullshit Rossman pulled out his ass. His conspiracy theories about Linus personally changing titles and messaging numbers he knew went nowhere. There is no evidence for this, Rossmann is literally grasping at straws the entire video. Steve did not exclude true information that would make Linus look worse. This is a lie Rossmann told. Linus is not a perfect person, but the dance Steve and Rossmann did was absurd.
@@DarkViperAU I don’t really believe that Steve left the context out to make Linus look better or try and make this less of a story, as Rossman said, but I also don’t think the added context helps Linus at all. That to me seems as unreasonable as Linus defenders making it sound like the clip in its totality exonerates him. I don’t like the way Linus handled the Honey situation and I don’t buy his reasoning that he would have been criticized majorly because people would think he’s just pushing his affiliate links. Sure, there are always some people who will criticize everything, but if you’re exposing a scam, even if it’s just against TH-cam creators, that will generally be well received. This all is mostly grasping at straws, and I think whatever your takeaway is relies on what you thought about these people prior to any of this happening. And that all of this probably should have been hashed out offline.
EDIT: The title changing has been recorded by an API scraper, and is thus most definitely not a conspiracy theory. Check GN's response to LMG on their website, it contains a link to said API scraper on the video in question. -- Original message -- I would have loved to hear you say this in the video instead of what we got, because it's infinitely more reasonable than what we got, unless you already thought bad of Louis and Steve, and/or good of Linus. I still don't think this is a good response though, because Louis is well respected by many of your viewers, and in a way fighting a fight similar to yours on reaction content, except in the field of right to repair. Many of your takedowns also contain information (eg. DMs) that must be taken on trust alone, and we do trust you on that unless someone comes with concrete proof to refute it. If these were lies, I would be happy to know it so I could dismiss Louis's claims, but that requires actual refutation rather than assertions. If it was actually true, Louis and Steve would be ostracized for it by their communities. But the fact the content of the video had to be avoided in the ramble feels eerily similar to treatment you have received in the past, and since you are even less tangentially involved, I have trouble believing your assertions in this case.
@@lunaticrambler2593 Why do you think that Steve did not properly get all of the information needed from Linus before making the video? Why do you think Louis and Steve did talk before releasing a video that had a common enemy for both as the main topic? Why do you think Linus didn't speak up about Honey when he knew how creators could be affected? Louis has done good stuff, Steve has done good stuff, and Linus has done good stuff. But all of them make mistakes and have character flaws like everyone has. Their focus when it comes to creating content is also much different, maybe that's why some people can relate or not to them when you watch their videos. I think more people are going to side with Louis and Steve only because they are seen as the "good guys" that "uncover the truth about scams" and "stand up for the consumer", but believe me, this is a business to them and they have a formula to make this expose videos as profitable as possible and it seems like that is not Linus cup of tea, and when he runs his business, exposing Honey was never a priority to him. I don't agree with any of the 3 involved in this stupid conflict, they should've solved their issues privately, because they had issues before all of this happened, they were just looking for an excuse to go off. They are all acting like babies.
@@1mclv I agree with the sentiment, as I've said elsewhere. My issues lie primarily with how Matto decided to cover it, even now with this comment. I don't think anyone is clearly in the right or wrong here aside from specific actions that can and should be called out, but the yap was just so uncharacteristic hostile and dismissive of Matto, to the point he is inevitably doing onto others what has been done onto him, which he denounces regularly, yet now falls into the same trap.
@@lunaticrambler2593 maybe just a simple community post by Matt would've been enough, but I think he relates a bit with Linus' situation and that can compromise his judgement, despite this, I think he is right when it comes to people being a bit more charitable to Linus instead of extremely judgemental when the guy has already recognized his mistake.
I find it poetic that the algorithm promoted the blue dog video the way it did, considering the content of the video and the life of the channel. In a video that is effectively about perseverance until success, the creator gets rewarded for their own perseverance. That's just so poetic.
The captain worked a long time to get his position and deserves more recognition! You wouldn't call a colonel a private; the captain is not a mere seaman 💦⚓!
Matto I love your break downs of various "drama" I wish someone made a perfect replica of you to carry around in my pocket and apply your logical reasoning and argumentation to any situation
Honestly its interesting learning how many people show up for the sydney fireworks. Theyve never been that special to me, but i guess thats natural when you can see them from your window every year.
i’m from the Uk and i’m in australia right now, i saw them from the first time from cremoune point. i guess they’re not as special to you but it’s more about the actual fireworks, they are the best fireworks i’ve ever seen
There is a reason Rossmann said don’t make me the face of right to repair as what he does can affect whether right to repair is successful or not if he is the face of it
The one thing i'll say regarding the topic of notifications, i've never had them on and never will for the whole of YT but i've found i'm missing some of your videos because all the past streams/vods are pushing your videos down your feed and its then a few days later i've realised i've not yet watched 2 or 3 or your videos because i've not seen them be uploaded cause all i can see are past vods. This may just be a me issue as someone who only has a small amount of free time to watch YT and cant catch most videos as soon as they're uploaded but thought would mention it anyway. It was the same when multiple shorts were being uploaded every day i'd lose track of the long form videos sometimes. Anyway, love the monthly yap, great for me to listen to while at work 🙂
Regarding Pirate Software's ego- I stumbled on some old reddit threads from the EVE Online community, after he made a video talking about his corporation and what they did back in the day. They knew him by his in game name, and when someone posted a clip where he said he was that guy, some people had a Gell-Mann effect moment. More importantly though, recently he DMCA'd a game on steam based on a reddit post. This was a legitimately false DMCA as the build of the game on Steam did not contain his likeness.
Your first impulse is to sympathize with an owner of $100 million company. who openly discourages his employees from unionizing on his huge platform. who didn't return a prototype and then auctioned it off? Inarguably, no matter what you think of the motives of the people that exposed it? that was accused of bullying by one of his female staffers and then exonerated himself by hiring a law firm to issue a so-called independent report? Look, I'm not saying every single one of those issues have been covered fairly, but to suggest that all of it is bullshit and none of it was important or meaningful or had justifiable backlash is silly. To compare to your situation is wildly charitable to Linus
so right off the bat we have someone parroting the "linus discourages unionizing" without even udnerstandign the context. Linus "discoruages his employees from unionizing" isnt even true, he has stated first off under B.C (Canada) Law, Employers are not allowed to prevent employees from forming unions, we arent as corrupt and messed up as the U.S by allowing union busting to be a thing. the main point he illustrates, LMG employees are paid well and taken care of with many benefits, are listened to for concerns regularly and that Linus doesnt want a Union to form since itd be a sign that he has failed as a boss to look out for the well being of his staff, this is actually something you should want and applaud in a Employer, not chastise. Billet Labs: the prototype was given to them to keep, something Steve conveninatly leaves out, it was after the video which billet approved by the way, that they asked for it back, and LMG did agree to send it back and it got auctioned off unfortionately, but it has been made clear thats due to a inventory problem that they have since addressed, and they worked to remedy the situation with billet. " that was accused of bullying by one of his female staffers and then exonerated himself by hiring a law firm to issue a so-called independent report?" what is he suppose to do here whent he allegations come out, just leave them be? (weve seen how that ends up for many people, it aint good) he did what is exspected of someone in such a situation, bring on a 3rd party team to investigate the claims, and publish the report, said report found the allegations to be lacking in credence. you think a investigative team is going to be biased based on who is writing their check? theirs no benefit to it, if anything showing favouritism just because they hired you would end youre business on the spot. Facts Matter people, so yes it is indeed all bullshit. (the billet labs has some credibility behind it but it was manipualted information by steve)
I understand why the thumbnail of Louis’s video appears to mischaracterize Linus, especially to someone who watches his content often, however you cant reasonably expect people to take your argument seriously if you dedicate a majority of it to talking about the thumbnail of the video instead of it’s substance. I mean you overtly say you don’t even care what Louis’s main issue was. It almost felt like you barely watched his video at all tbh
It's also wild how he literally is portraying Linus to be the victim and not the owner of 100 million dollar company who has been overtly anti-consumer and anti-union publicly. Like, oh my God, Linus is one of the most important media celebrities on TH-cam. And you would think he was getting punched down on by these big memes, like Steve from Gamers Nexus. Steve showed his work to a much more exhaustive degree in his criticism. It was so... Accurate in its criticism that LMG had to shut down for 10 days just to get their shit fixed. It was not blown out of proportion. It was completely justified criticism of a massively, powerful person with a digital media empire.
@@michael_c2 the 2023 Situation was justified and its evidant since then LMG has massively improved for the better. this current wave of drama? Yes Linus is 100% the victim in all this, because its obvious its all meant as a hitpiece to try and hurt and possibly brign down LMG. which is seen as competition by Gamers Nexus. so much of it is just petty "i dont like you"
When you inevitably come to Iceland you should be here for new years if you thought those fireworks are impressive, granted they are not as coordinated but every town and the capital city just erupts everywhere for hours. Pro tip: do it on a year where the weather is good.
The critisism video put out by Gamers Nexus about Linus was warranted in my opinion. It was a critique about their methodologies and accuracy errors. Also they were pretty objective about it.
@@devn3813 Because TH-cam now shows relevant comments to what part of the video you are watching. For example, they will show comments including a time stamp at 2h, when you are at around the 2h mark of the video.
27:10 pure nvidia marketing lol 5090 is about 30% better than 4090 with 20% more power draw (575w!!!), and they compared the 5070 with dlss and frame generation
Huge fan man, but I honestly think you shouldn't have included the Gamers Nexus vs LTT situation in your video if you weren't going to dive into any detail. LTT DID mess up on the Billet Labs situation and quite badly at that. They received both the water block and the graphics card that was supposed to be used for testing, but then tested the block on an entirely different GPU, described it as terrible (even though the product would have worked fine on the GPU it was designed for) and trhen refused to issue any retraction on the matter. After that Billet Labs wanted the prototype back, since they were under the impression that the prototype would have been returned to them. This is when LTT claimed they lost both the GPU and the block was sold off. This wasn't a miscommunication, Matt. It was negligence with huge effect on Billet Labs, which may or may not have impacted their business down the line. LTT offered financial reimbursement (which was stupid, since this was Billet's only prototype, so it really wasn't at all about the money) and to send the GPU back AFTER the Gamers Nexus video was published. This is literally just one of the things you mention in passing as a small "mistake" that Linus may have made. Gamers Nexus is to blame for a lot of shit that is happening right now - their handling of the Honey LTT mention is atrocious and the behaviour afterwards is questionable at best. But the initial video centered around LTT was warranted and in most aspects very much needed. I believe, for the sake of not misinforming your viewers, these things SHOULD have been researched more thoroughly, since from your video it sounds like LTT did nothing wrong, when in reality they got righfully called out. What happened in the last few weeks with Rossman and GN is what really should be questioned.
I did say they screwed up the situation, but it really did seem like a miscommunication. Both between Billet and different parts of LTT. They clearly didnt INTEND to auction it off, and Billet originally didnt want it back but changed their mind. They just screwed up and apologized. Steve presented things as their being maliacious www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t7r2h/billet_labs_timeline/ If I had made this video around the time of the Billet Labs controversy or video, I would have spent more time on it.
ok ill be frank, the fact that was apparently Billet labs ONLY prototype is probably a reason why i actually dont care that much for the harm they suffered, what the hell are they doing even sending the only copy of something their experimentign with to ANYONE outside the company? that litterally asking for trouble. exspeccually when said prototype is not being accompanied by a employee and supervised, there is also this one issue that in the emails from billet themselves, LMG were litterally told they can keep it. so one of 2 things is true about billet 1.) they are extremely Careless with their internal development samples, that they gave away their ONLY copy of something that suppesdly would severely harm their business if its lost, completely unsupervised, and to someone outside the company, which would indicate they are a poorly run business, ya its callous of me, but the harm they suffered was deserved if they are seriously THAT careless. smaller mistakes then that has litterally ended businesses. their damn lucky. or 2.) their actually lying to GN about it being their only Prototype, and they infact have others, to the point their comfortable sending out one unsupervised, to outside entities. and if its that one, their not to be trusted as a company. so either Billet labs is a horribly incompetent business, or they are willing to be dishonest and deceptive, the situation is absolutely screwed up i dont deny that, but knowing these 2 details, far too much of that fault for what happened lies with billet. they should know better.
For the long form videos to sleep point, I still get pacifist recommended every evening at around 9 p.m. (like the whole playlist). You may dislike the editing of the earlier Episodes, but it is perfect (for me) to fall asleep to. I like your more energetic style you now have, but those videos are exciting, not relaxing. For example, I wouldn't want to watch the latest all awards videos, cause I just end up watching the whole video again and not even trying to fall asleep
Slightly disappointed that short notifications are now off because I don't just go to his shorts and watch them if they are in my notifications; I select them, which automatically takes me to the short. I do this when playing video games, and you can't really take your eyes off the game to choose an actual video, so I listen to the one-tap-away short, which is usually really good anyway and yes, I do watch the shorts when I do get a chance to breathe in the game and I'm certain I'm not going to lose or die or whatever.
Hey Viper, love your videos and a lots of love from probably your only Peruvian fan. I hope I win the giveaway, and I think the 4K content suits you better because your videos have so much quality and dedication even in 144p 🎉❤
I can confirm SOME of the characters in marvel rivals are thick, and they do not discriminate on gender. Specifically Psylocke, The invisible woman (particularly her dominatrix skin), Cloak, Venom, Captain America, and squirrel girl (aka lil miss thiccems)
Matto I love the stuff you make, but I can't help but think the part about Linus, Steve and Louis is not a good look. I would have loved to see your honest opinions about what is actually being presented in Rossman's video. For anyone reading this I do recommend watching Rossman's video on their own because sadly Matt didn't seem to actually talk about the content in it and just called Steve and Louis dishonest for 30 minutes. I'm not completely sold on either side of the story, but there is actual merit to discussing what is being presented in the video. If Rossman's video is a hitpiece to make Linus look bad and Steve good, then this part of the rambles is the reverse of that, sadly. I would have expected Matt of all people to realize a video where you say nothing about what is being said and just voice your dislike for 30 minutes isn't worth publishing. I'm almost on edge calling it dishonest because of how much it misrepresents what's being said in the video.
Some examples of what I think Matt got wrong: - Doesn't mention that the big premise of Rossman's video is that Linus used a screenshot as evidence against Steve of a message sent to a phone he knew Steve didn't check anymore because it was doxxed. - Says Rossman held evidence for 6 years to use on Linus, while it was Linus that re-used that evidence years later before anything to strongarm Rossman into apologizing for an unfavorable agreement to go to Linus's conference, which is the only reason it was brought up again. - Rossman never claims to dismiss anything an asshole says, just that you cannot let them define (and redefine) the standards you hold yourself to, and even criticized Steve for doing so. To add on to that, I can't really say the video is all that positive of Steve, but indeed does air grievances with Linus's way of handling things. - The screenshot of the comment at the end is lopsided because Rossman DID voice his concerns with Linus around the time that it happened, and he got shit FROM Linus for it. He just didn't make a big fuss about it and so it wasn't a big drama, which the commenter didn't know and that's why they got ratio'd. Rossman's video honestly gave me vibes of Matt's takedown videos (Albeit less in depth and well structured, since it's not even side content he makes), so it's a shame not to see it be taken on it's merit, but rather being dismissed seemingly because Rossman's style is that he's combative and abrasive, which is often a complaint to people going against the grain, including Matt himself.
I agree, I do think, as Louis acknowledged, that his video was too long and the criticisms were too scattered throughout. I also think that they’re working a bit too hard to convince us that Linus is a jerk… I have no problem believing that, most highly successful people are to a certain extent. And it’s right to point out that Linus’s excuse about not going public with Honey is nonsense justification after the fact. I think what is most galling to them is how Linus really, really wants people to believe he’s a good guy and blameless, when their personal interactions show this to be false. The Rossman/Burke side does have more in common with Matto’s crusade against his critics… they probably should just let it go, but they feel like it’s an injustice. I think Matt identifies more with Linus though because he has a stronger personal connection to him and the old emails being referenced by Louis is making Matt draw a comparison to his old clips being shown that isn’t really there. Rossman showed the old emails to point out how Linus has brought up the past to criticize when it seemed it was a dead issue… which, yes, that opens Louis up to similar criticism, which is a recurring theme with both him and Steve. If they wanted to take the high ground, they probably shouldn’t have continued to talk about this. And in the grand scheme of things, this is all pretty silly, but one could say the same about Matt and Willy Mac. All of that to say is no one has really handled this very well, but I don’t see how you can think that Linus is blameless or even a nice guy after considering everything.
@@terig5584 Very well put, and yes. I definitely think there are plenty of valid criticisms to give to Louis and Steve (Eg. I do think the idea that Steve is just some nerd with 2M subs is also too favorable), showing Louis' bias. But I'm just kind of sad that Matt of all people didn't seem to give the valid criticism of Linus any time in the ramble.
Viper didn’t watch the full video of louis and then talks shit over them. So hilarious and hipocritical from s guy who releases videos that are too long and complains others don’t fully warch it yet he does the same to others and then spread misinformation, do you agree?
@@deivytrajan I'm willing to give Matto the benefit of the doubt here that he did watch the video, but was either not receptive to what was actually being said, or had some reasons he didn't communicate well enough back to us. I'm hoping he does give it another thought. It's far from the level of dishonesty that has been done to him, but it's indeed on the same road.
I agree with a lot of what you said here about LTT/GN/Rossman topic, i watch last two fairly regularly, and while i don't particularly like Linus, i do agree that (besides his silence on Honey topic) he doesn't really feel like "trying to stir up the drama" unlike Steve (that comment in a Honey vid was actual surprise, i thought it was meant to go somewhere, but when it didn't it felt weirdly "hostile" and somewhat off-topic), though i'm not sure if it was meant to be such. From my perspective, it's hard to believe GN/Rossman are doing it "for the sake of drama" and views, i also don't think there's some personal motivation to take down LTT (or Linus personally), it looks more to me like they treat Linus less like a "fellow TH-camr, who you can talk with freely" and more like a "big industry man, who doesn't care about others", both likely true to some degree, but it really feels like rather than looking at Linus in a nuanced and fair way, GN/Louis are attacking a strawman of him they perceive. But in the same manner, Matto, you as well feel like dismissing perspective of GN and assuming the worst of Rossman and Steve, which ends up feeling like everyone is trying to antagonize each other instead of just trying to solve the problems that each side mentions. Before i didn't feel like it was a good idea for Steve to talk with Linus, but this video (which feels a lot like a perspective from someone who is on the opposite side, as in like "watched a lot of LTT and knows those people more than GN" when compared to my "watched a lot of GN"-bias) actually persuaded me that it would likely be the best course of action, as i feel like everyone in this situation misinterprets the motivations and character of each other, so Linus and Steve should just sit down and talk like normal people, not as "journalist and CVO" or "two tech-brotherhood TH-camrs". As naive as that may sound, i feel like they need to give each other benefit of the doubt and attempt to speak honestly with each other in a casual setting. P.S. Seeing as Linus did invite Steve to a discussion, and Steve pushed that offer away, i feel like it's kinda GN's turn to show their willingness to right the wrongs and get this whole situation resolved regardless if they feel they're right or wrong in this matter. I doubt a call or email will suffice, there does need to be a face-to-face meeting i feel.
You said that all Louis has done is criticize Linus but missed the parts where he has gone out of his way to praise him like for example his stance on repair and open software, his framework investment and even recently just a few months ago Linus getting his channel striked for suggesting TH-cam alternatives. Aside that I understand the argument of GN trying to become a drama farm youtube channel (even though I do not agree with it) but what incentive does Louis have to farm drama views? He has never taken a paid sponsorship and continually asks his viewers to use ad block. Unlike GN and LTT his source of income is his repair business and his non profit. And the way I see it, I would 100% trust the person who isn't trying to sell me something over someone who is, even setting aside Louis's customer rights advocacy that he has been fighting for years. I didn't really care about Linus's drama and still watched his videos even 2 weeks ago. Additionally I have never even seen a GN video from beginning to end. But seeing Linus actually read the dictionary definition of morality on stream, willingly sending a message to GN's phone that he know he stopped using years ago and whining when he didn't reply and calling Louis's video a "hitpiece" in the opening minute of his next podcast is psychotic to me and I can't in good conscience watch his videos anymore, even though I was a regular viewer of his content for close to a decade and can't deny the good that he has done. Also "Informative and unfortunate" is a running gag on Louis's channel. I really hope you read this comment and reconsider your views, even though this might be as Louis put it in his comments as a reply to you, parasocial.
Viper seeks the truth, but then it comes to other people Viper will miss the truth and not do proper research… This is why so many people misunderstand viper
@@theVtuberCh 4 months ago he literally made a video praising linus for suggesting youtube alternatives and getting his channel striked He has made plenty of positive videos on Linus, even recently. The only negative videos on Linus I can remember from Louis is the recent one with GN and the lttstore warranty video.
louis business does not care about youtube, to him it's just a place where he posts his thoughts or informs the viewer about tech related news that.can affect the condumer, I think his main business is repairing electronics. Linus has a different type of business so he relies on sponsorships, and just because of this, does not mean he's not trustworthy. Even when you think you are not being sold something does not mean that's the truth, he might be selling his ideas, his way of thinking and conducting business and you "buy it" when you consume his content and spread how good you think Louis is. The original whistleblower might be the main culprit here, but Linus was just the tastiest target.
Darkviperau i don't know if you are aware of this but it's a glitch i feel like you should know if you two characters near each other with super jump on and you use one of them to jump up then switch characters and the one falls and hits the ground about dieing right before he dies switch characters and this bug happens where you have 1 hp and any little thing kills you anytime you fall off anything if a car barely hits you any little thing it's pretty funny 😂
1:46:11 No, Steve Burke actually excluded TRUE information that would’ve made Linus look even worse if he had included it but he didn’t because he didn’t want to make him look like an idiot. Do you even watch Louis Rossmann’s video?! Or maybe you just missed it since you’re always watching things at 2 times speed. You’re just wrong about this Matt.
Why would you cut out evidence, thats terrible journalism. And if he cut out evidence how do you know it exists? How do you know its true? Did Steve say he did it? I dont know, I'm an outsider to this drama but if so isn't that now just him saying Linus is stupid anyway, now without the evidence? Plus it paints him as virtuous when at least that would be anything but.
As a journalism student, when an influencer says that they are the gold standard of discourse, especially journalism - I instantly distrust them. Any journalist that's genuinely following journalism standards, just won't advertise that stuff, because the standard of journalism is composed of a lot of elements such as: ethics, connections, information gathering, verification, dissemination, and a lot more. Ideally, a "gold standard" journalist shouldn't even call anyone "assholes" when discussing about them, because then they're already introducing bias in their argument and thus further reducing the credibility of their discussion.
1:40:13 I am trying not to take sides but I was around 60% with Steve and 40% with Linus. Now after hearing this reasoning I have flipped and believe linus's side a but more. I just wish Linus would apologize a bit more about the wrong phone number and +1 Louis situation but other then those it's now clear almost everything Louis and Steve have said is hypocritical in some way. If there is anything I hate more it's people who are hypocritical and who are narcissists. I live with a narcissist and I never got that intention from Linus, I am however starting to get that feeling from Louis. But I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and recognize that they are also human. They need to apologize a lot more then Linus does and steve needs to grow a pair when it comes to personal situations. He shouldn't hide behind lawyers and websites because he doesn't have a smoking gun of evidence. Everyone who has watched Steve over the years all recognized that he was a Journalist. He worked with journalists by consulting with them. He used them as his personal ruler of integrity and when it comes down to his own integrity he hid away. That's not fair, he who throws stones should not live in a glass house.
How is Louis narcisist? Are you freaking crazy? Did you even listen to Louis 1h long video? Linus didn’t call out honey because he didn’t want any issues with community, Louis doesn’t gie a shit he will call out the BS companies do.
@@deivytrajani find it sooo bizarre to defend a guy that (unknowingly at the time) pushed a scam and refused to tell people about it when he found out because "that would damage his image" and using bs arguments when called out. People are weird man...
@@deivytrajan the guy misusing NPD and diagnosing linus with it despite having no qualifications or knowledge on the disorder is totally not displaying traits of narcissism. right. that makes complete sense.
Viper I'm usually so behind you. You generally prove a great point and change my mind or decide my position. But you're laughably wrong and disconnected from your audience here. We are not TH-camrs like you. We do not sympathize with Linus as you do, which is understandable given you see his situation as similar to yours when you are attacked. But you are hands down letting your disposition change your truth.
Viper fanboying to Linus so hard.. Viper didn’t even fully watch Louis video, nor did Viper read GN receipts. It’s hipocritical how viper attacks other people for not watching his hour long video essays but then does the same mistake and doesn’t watch / read other…
Or, quite possibly, being a creator puts you in the best spot to talk about this as he is both a view and someone who’s a creator. The average viewer has zero clue what it’s like being a creator and almost always thinks as it’s an online space anything can be said with no context or anything valid and still make points
@@deivytrajan why tf do people like you even care abt controversies, like me personally they could all say the n-word a hundred times, be a nazi and support communism and i'd still watch them cuz i watch them for their content that i like, not some bullshit that they did
I do not believe Billidlabs ever said the prototype they sent to LMG was supposed to stay with them. It was their only prototype at the time so it would be rediculous. I do not believe Steve's coverage of Linus' weird actions were blown up by Steve. I think LMG acts like they are the gold standard in journalism and are simply not that. They also built quite a case for being a bad company. I don't care what their internal research did. Those researches are pretty much a PR move. It will put everyone in the company on edge and there's not that much of an incentive for people to come out. Especially not if your management has toxic people in there. Which with what I heard about It is absolutely rediculous to me as well that LMG did not bring out news after finding out Honey was screwing them over. They felt okay with finding it out and keeping it to themselves. It would have been a great look to say Honey was doing strange things behind the scenes and it would have been great for consumers to know. It is not entirely fair to say Steve should have talked about something in the past. Often in interacting with others we give them the benefit of the doubt. At the moment we find out someone may have been a bad influence or even just a bad person, we can realise what happened before was absolutely wrong. He wouldn't have to put stuff in a folder to still have old e-mails or messages. Linus being a jerk very much has allot to do with the issue at hand, if he is a jerk and does business in a jerk way, we can actually assume he lead his company as a jerk and therefor he has (perhaps only in the past) created a toxic workplace. As I believe Steve pointed out his whole sodding team wanted to have more time for projects, Linus only wanted people to come in at low wages because they had to prove themselves (which is something very toxic as the area they are in is insanely expensive to live in) and I think it illustrates well what he is like as a boss :) I still believe everything Madison said about LTT and I feel like some of my other favourite people on LTT leaving is not because Linus is a good boss. Steve does not need to reach out to Linus if he does not want to, he often does not reach out to people when they do video's on a company, as I assume Linus would try and respond in a way to undermine their whole case with bad reasoning. I do not believe Steve being honest about Linus says anything about his character aside from him being honest. If we look at Linus as an abuser; I can see why any reaching out could be him acting nice, not him being nice. I can not see your point about Steve inventing issues. I truly liked the video Louis Rossman made on the situation as he is someone whom I feel, like Steve is always honest. Rossman is an absolute gem in his way of covering various topics. Linus saying he fucked up in small situations can be as easily be seen as more manipulations. When a person owns up to a small issue, they can often get away with the real issue, the big issue at hand. So I am not impressed that they do this. Sound like something a vulnerable narcissist would do. I have a feeling that you have a autistic way of thinking, I also have this way of thinking so I can relate quite a bit :) And I do not feel you for saying how Linus has owned up to issues, as all he had to do was say sorry to Madison, own up and fire the people who hurt her and own up to his bad management. Louis does not act like Steve is a child, he seems to think that Steve should be able to show himself more and not act like he is a corporate guy and be able to talk more from the heart. Now I can not say if TechJesus wants to do this, but it should be okay for someone to talk about that. talking to the subject of a video is not inherrently unethical, nor is it inherrently ethical to reach out to people. I can not see your reasoning here mate :) Linus does not have to be hostile pubicly to someone for them to talk about them. I think his premise of assholes is an interesting take. You seem to basically be saying the same thing as Louis Rossmann about Steve. It is completely normal to me to not say you dislike a creator in your area of expertise unless it comes to a boil. Okay at the end you are just taking Steve out of context. He doesn't say he is going to do things like spread missinformation, take people out of context or anything like that. You saying that Linus is the only one who aknowledges wrongdoing makes me think you know nothing about Louis Rossman :)
Um but matt it is still banned??? You cant redownload it (at least where i live) even though trump apparently unbanned it. Like in the app store it says "TikTok and ByteDance Ltd. apps are no longer available in the United States, and visitors to the United States might have limited access to features." So idk what u mean by it was only banned 12 hours...
My God, Matt is once again completely wrong about a subject he thinks he’s right about. 😑 Dude probably didn’t even watch Lousi Rossmann’s video. In fact I know he didn’t because he missed the part where Steve excluded information to make Linus look better than he actually is, not the other way around. Ffs Matt, stop watching everything at 2 times speed and actually digest what you’re watching!
For criticism of the end: Yes, I know you believe some of the bullshit Rossman pulled out his ass. His conspiracy theories about Linus personally changing titles and messaging numbers he knew went nowhere. There is no evidence for this, Rossmann is literally grasping at straws the entire video. Steve did not exclude true information that would make Linus look worse. This is a lie Rossmann told. Linus is not a perfect person, but the dance Steve and Rossmann did was absurd.
@@DarkViperAU I don’t really believe that Steve left the context out to make Linus look better or try and make this less of a story, as Rossman said, but I also don’t think the added context helps Linus at all. That to me seems as unreasonable as Linus defenders making it sound like the clip in its totality exonerates him. I don’t like the way Linus handled the Honey situation and I don’t buy his reasoning that he would have been criticized majorly because people would think he’s just pushing his affiliate links. Sure, there are always some people who will criticize everything, but if you’re exposing a scam, even if it’s just against TH-cam creators, that will generally be well received.
This all is mostly grasping at straws, and I think whatever your takeaway is relies on what you thought about these people prior to any of this happening. And that all of this probably should have been hashed out offline.
EDIT: The title changing has been recorded by an API scraper, and is thus most definitely not a conspiracy theory. Check GN's response to LMG on their website, it contains a link to said API scraper on the video in question.
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I would have loved to hear you say this in the video instead of what we got, because it's infinitely more reasonable than what we got, unless you already thought bad of Louis and Steve, and/or good of Linus.
I still don't think this is a good response though, because Louis is well respected by many of your viewers, and in a way fighting a fight similar to yours on reaction content, except in the field of right to repair. Many of your takedowns also contain information (eg. DMs) that must be taken on trust alone, and we do trust you on that unless someone comes with concrete proof to refute it.
If these were lies, I would be happy to know it so I could dismiss Louis's claims, but that requires actual refutation rather than assertions. If it was actually true, Louis and Steve would be ostracized for it by their communities. But the fact the content of the video had to be avoided in the ramble feels eerily similar to treatment you have received in the past, and since you are even less tangentially involved, I have trouble believing your assertions in this case.
@@lunaticrambler2593 Why do you think that Steve did not properly get all of the information needed from Linus before making the video?
Why do you think Louis and Steve did talk before releasing a video that had a common enemy for both as the main topic?
Why do you think Linus didn't speak up about Honey when he knew how creators could be affected?
Louis has done good stuff, Steve has done good stuff, and Linus has done good stuff. But all of them make mistakes and have character flaws like everyone has.
Their focus when it comes to creating content is also much different, maybe that's why some people can relate or not to them when you watch their videos. I think more people are going to side with Louis and Steve only because they are seen as the "good guys" that "uncover the truth about scams" and "stand up for the consumer", but believe me, this is a business to them and they have a formula to make this expose videos as profitable as possible and it seems like that is not Linus cup of tea, and when he runs his business, exposing Honey was never a priority to him.
I don't agree with any of the 3 involved in this stupid conflict, they should've solved their issues privately, because they had issues before all of this happened, they were just looking for an excuse to go off. They are all acting like babies.
@@1mclv I agree with the sentiment, as I've said elsewhere. My issues lie primarily with how Matto decided to cover it, even now with this comment. I don't think anyone is clearly in the right or wrong here aside from specific actions that can and should be called out, but the yap was just so uncharacteristic hostile and dismissive of Matto, to the point he is inevitably doing onto others what has been done onto him, which he denounces regularly, yet now falls into the same trap.
@@lunaticrambler2593 maybe just a simple community post by Matt would've been enough, but I think he relates a bit with Linus' situation and that can compromise his judgement, despite this, I think he is right when it comes to people being a bit more charitable to Linus instead of extremely judgemental when the guy has already recognized his mistake.
I'm glad rambles didn't completely go away. I love listening to you yap about things
me too
Me too
yeah. Making it a monthly thing was a nice idea
Now we need to ignore 90% of his GTA videos…
It makes work go a lot faster
The whole chapter at 1:37:55 'When can you meet me in 2025?' was already covered in a previous chapter at 1:31:26 'How do I motivate myself to work?'
Oh that is odd. Will try and have it edited out.
I love the new style of rambles. Doing a full month breakdown is a better concept and all the news stays relevant
Monthly yap is perfect for background noise while grinding Cayo 😂
I find it poetic that the algorithm promoted the blue dog video the way it did, considering the content of the video and the life of the channel.
In a video that is effectively about perseverance until success, the creator gets rewarded for their own perseverance. That's just so poetic.
You know grandson, back in my day it was called the Rambles series
Best use of my next 2 hours
3:48 What’s wrong with calling the captain a sea word? ⚓️
Because he like being called an ocean word more
The captain worked a long time to get his position and deserves more recognition! You wouldn't call a colonel a private; the captain is not a mere seaman 💦⚓!
Bro I thought he meant “C word” lol
43:24 The Crew mentioned 🗣🔥
Hey matto, can you put these in chronological order in the playlist?
Matto I love your break downs of various "drama" I wish someone made a perfect replica of you to carry around in my pocket and apply your logical reasoning and argumentation to any situation
Honestly its interesting learning how many people show up for the sydney fireworks. Theyve never been that special to me, but i guess thats natural when you can see them from your window every year.
i’m from the Uk and i’m in australia right now, i saw them from the first time from cremoune point. i guess they’re not as special to you but it’s more about the actual fireworks, they are the best fireworks i’ve ever seen
could listen to this man yap all day
There is a reason Rossmann said don’t make me the face of right to repair as what he does can affect whether right to repair is successful or not if he is the face of it
That part with the memes was hilarious. Thanks for the rambles, Matt!
1:26:01 that timing for the alert was so Convienient, amazing!
"If you ever have sleeping issues, stop eating"
- DarkViperAU
Cant believe my eyes looking at matto and seeing his hair starting to grey
His hairs been greying for over a year at this point lol, but yeah, it's getting quite grey now
The one thing i'll say regarding the topic of notifications, i've never had them on and never will for the whole of YT but i've found i'm missing some of your videos because all the past streams/vods are pushing your videos down your feed and its then a few days later i've realised i've not yet watched 2 or 3 or your videos because i've not seen them be uploaded cause all i can see are past vods.
This may just be a me issue as someone who only has a small amount of free time to watch YT and cant catch most videos as soon as they're uploaded but thought would mention it anyway. It was the same when multiple shorts were being uploaded every day i'd lose track of the long form videos sometimes.
Anyway, love the monthly yap, great for me to listen to while at work 🙂
I can't be the only one who wished the monthly yap was longer.
Regarding Pirate Software's ego- I stumbled on some old reddit threads from the EVE Online community, after he made a video talking about his corporation and what they did back in the day. They knew him by his in game name, and when someone posted a clip where he said he was that guy, some people had a Gell-Mann effect moment.
More importantly though, recently he DMCA'd a game on steam based on a reddit post. This was a legitimately false DMCA as the build of the game on Steam did not contain his likeness.
Your first impulse is to sympathize with an owner of $100 million company. who openly discourages his employees from unionizing on his huge platform. who didn't return a prototype and then auctioned it off? Inarguably, no matter what you think of the motives of the people that exposed it? that was accused of bullying by one of his female staffers and then exonerated himself by hiring a law firm to issue a so-called independent report?
Look, I'm not saying every single one of those issues have been covered fairly, but to suggest that all of it is bullshit and none of it was important or meaningful or had justifiable backlash is silly.
To compare to your situation is wildly charitable to Linus
so right off the bat we have someone parroting the "linus discourages unionizing"
without even udnerstandign the context.
Linus "discoruages his employees from unionizing" isnt even true, he has stated first off under B.C (Canada) Law, Employers are not allowed to prevent employees from forming unions, we arent as corrupt and messed up as the U.S by allowing union busting to be a thing.
the main point he illustrates, LMG employees are paid well and taken care of with many benefits, are listened to for concerns regularly and that Linus doesnt want a Union to form since itd be a sign that he has failed as a boss to look out for the well being of his staff, this is actually something you should want and applaud in a Employer, not chastise.
Billet Labs:
the prototype was given to them to keep, something Steve conveninatly leaves out, it was after the video which billet approved by the way, that they asked for it back, and LMG did agree to send it back and it got auctioned off unfortionately, but it has been made clear thats due to a inventory problem that they have since addressed, and they worked to remedy the situation with billet.
" that was accused of bullying by one of his female staffers and then exonerated himself by hiring a law firm to issue a so-called independent report?"
what is he suppose to do here whent he allegations come out, just leave them be? (weve seen how that ends up for many people, it aint good)
he did what is exspected of someone in such a situation, bring on a 3rd party team to investigate the claims, and publish the report, said report found the allegations to be lacking in credence.
you think a investigative team is going to be biased based on who is writing their check? theirs no benefit to it, if anything showing favouritism just because they hired you would end youre business on the spot.
Facts Matter people, so yes it is indeed all bullshit. (the billet labs has some credibility behind it but it was manipualted information by steve)
I understand why the thumbnail of Louis’s video appears to mischaracterize Linus, especially to someone who watches his content often, however you cant reasonably expect people to take your argument seriously if you dedicate a majority of it to talking about the thumbnail of the video instead of it’s substance. I mean you overtly say you don’t even care what Louis’s main issue was. It almost felt like you barely watched his video at all tbh
It's also wild how he literally is portraying Linus to be the victim and not the owner of 100 million dollar company who has been overtly anti-consumer and anti-union publicly. Like, oh my God, Linus is one of the most important media celebrities on TH-cam. And you would think he was getting punched down on by these big memes, like Steve from Gamers Nexus. Steve showed his work to a much more exhaustive degree in his criticism. It was so... Accurate in its criticism that LMG had to shut down for 10 days just to get their shit fixed.
It was not blown out of proportion. It was completely justified criticism of a massively, powerful person with a digital media empire.
@@michael_c2 the 2023 Situation was justified and its evidant since then LMG has massively improved for the better.
this current wave of drama? Yes Linus is 100% the victim in all this, because its obvious its all meant as a hitpiece to try and hurt and possibly brign down LMG. which is seen as competition by Gamers Nexus.
so much of it is just petty "i dont like you"
17:16 sounds like a sanctuary more than a zoo
ayeee monthly yap time
lol at the “translate to English”.
the memes at 33:57 are too good i havent laughed so much in a while thank you😂
Missed opportunity to call it "Yapuary"
Although that seems more fitting for next month :D
1:51:13 that's a great and riveting analogy
When you inevitably come to Iceland you should be here for new years if you thought those fireworks are impressive, granted they are not as coordinated but every town and the capital city just erupts everywhere for hours. Pro tip: do it on a year where the weather is good.
Oh boy i gotta take the time to listen to everything 😊
The critisism video put out by Gamers Nexus about Linus was warranted in my opinion. It was a critique about their methodologies and accuracy errors. Also they were pretty objective about it.
My favourite series Ngl
1:39:28 No its not max quality, its set to Auto, not 720p.
I was just listening through the whole video and I read your comment as he said it at 1:39 lol
@@devn3813 Because TH-cam now shows relevant comments to what part of the video you are watching. For example, they will show comments including a time stamp at 2h, when you are at around the 2h mark of the video.
@ooh lol
Matto. Your old thumbnails were more recognisable. Ever since the change you have been slowly getting less views.
Time to hear Matthew's judgement.
27:10 pure nvidia marketing lol 5090 is about 30% better than 4090 with 20% more power draw (575w!!!), and they compared the 5070 with dlss and frame generation
The monthly yapdance!
This is good when cleaning up the house
I also miss the AI Dungeon video.
i wish he wouldn't just delete his older videos, without even reuploading them. lots of those now unwatchable videos were really good
Matto's so fluent in yapping
i love seeing the rambles, i always watch you while eating like a kid hearing his dad talking about his day lol, its always intertaining to see
Dapper photo at the start there 😎
oh i always eat before sleep 3 hours is a lot it's usually something small like a fruit or some chips. Don't have any problems sleeping.
It's official matt is part of the judgement day
Huge fan man, but I honestly think you shouldn't have included the Gamers Nexus vs LTT situation in your video if you weren't going to dive into any detail. LTT DID mess up on the Billet Labs situation and quite badly at that. They received both the water block and the graphics card that was supposed to be used for testing, but then tested the block on an entirely different GPU, described it as terrible (even though the product would have worked fine on the GPU it was designed for) and trhen refused to issue any retraction on the matter. After that Billet Labs wanted the prototype back, since they were under the impression that the prototype would have been returned to them. This is when LTT claimed they lost both the GPU and the block was sold off. This wasn't a miscommunication, Matt. It was negligence with huge effect on Billet Labs, which may or may not have impacted their business down the line. LTT offered financial reimbursement (which was stupid, since this was Billet's only prototype, so it really wasn't at all about the money) and to send the GPU back AFTER the Gamers Nexus video was published.
This is literally just one of the things you mention in passing as a small "mistake" that Linus may have made. Gamers Nexus is to blame for a lot of shit that is happening right now - their handling of the Honey LTT mention is atrocious and the behaviour afterwards is questionable at best. But the initial video centered around LTT was warranted and in most aspects very much needed. I believe, for the sake of not misinforming your viewers, these things SHOULD have been researched more thoroughly, since from your video it sounds like LTT did nothing wrong, when in reality they got righfully called out. What happened in the last few weeks with Rossman and GN is what really should be questioned.
I did say they screwed up the situation, but it really did seem like a miscommunication. Both between Billet and different parts of LTT. They clearly didnt INTEND to auction it off, and Billet originally didnt want it back but changed their mind. They just screwed up and apologized. Steve presented things as their being maliacious www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/15t7r2h/billet_labs_timeline/ If I had made this video around the time of the Billet Labs controversy or video, I would have spent more time on it.
ok ill be frank, the fact that was apparently Billet labs ONLY prototype is probably a reason why i actually dont care that much for the harm they suffered, what the hell are they doing even sending the only copy of something their experimentign with to ANYONE outside the company? that litterally asking for trouble.
exspeccually when said prototype is not being accompanied by a employee and supervised,
there is also this one issue that in the emails from billet themselves, LMG were litterally told they can keep it. so one of 2 things is true about billet
1.) they are extremely Careless with their internal development samples, that they gave away their ONLY copy of something that suppesdly would severely harm their business if its lost, completely unsupervised, and to someone outside the company,
which would indicate they are a poorly run business, ya its callous of me, but the harm they suffered was deserved if they are seriously THAT careless.
smaller mistakes then that has litterally ended businesses. their damn lucky.
or 2.) their actually lying to GN about it being their only Prototype, and they infact have others, to the point their comfortable sending out one unsupervised, to outside entities.
and if its that one, their not to be trusted as a company.
so either Billet labs is a horribly incompetent business, or they are willing to be dishonest and deceptive,
the situation is absolutely screwed up i dont deny that, but knowing these 2 details, far too much of that fault for what happened lies with billet. they should know better.
We yapping with this one
For the long form videos to sleep point, I still get pacifist recommended every evening at around 9 p.m. (like the whole playlist). You may dislike the editing of the earlier Episodes, but it is perfect (for me) to fall asleep to. I like your more energetic style you now have, but those videos are exciting, not relaxing. For example, I wouldn't want to watch the latest all awards videos, cause I just end up watching the whole video again and not even trying to fall asleep
Slightly disappointed that short notifications are now off because I don't just go to his shorts and watch them if they are in my notifications; I select them, which automatically takes me to the short. I do this when playing video games, and you can't really take your eyes off the game to choose an actual video, so I listen to the one-tap-away short, which is usually really good anyway and yes, I do watch the shorts when I do get a chance to breathe in the game and I'm certain I'm not going to lose or die or whatever.
I can only watch this because of Orey,Love you orey
7:20 he was about to say beat the train
There were a lot of 4k 144-160hz 27-28'' monitors actually
i just keep thinking of Levy ...lol, levy rossman gotham chess
I think there's a person in chat who really wants to know whether viper likes pancakes or waffles more
Hey Viper, love your videos and a lots of love from probably your only Peruvian fan. I hope I win the giveaway, and I think the 4K content suits you better because your videos have so much quality and dedication even in 144p 🎉❤
I can confirm SOME of the characters in marvel rivals are thick, and they do not discriminate on gender. Specifically Psylocke, The invisible woman (particularly her dominatrix skin), Cloak, Venom, Captain America, and squirrel girl (aka lil miss thiccems)
Matto I love the stuff you make, but I can't help but think the part about Linus, Steve and Louis is not a good look. I would have loved to see your honest opinions about what is actually being presented in Rossman's video. For anyone reading this I do recommend watching Rossman's video on their own because sadly Matt didn't seem to actually talk about the content in it and just called Steve and Louis dishonest for 30 minutes. I'm not completely sold on either side of the story, but there is actual merit to discussing what is being presented in the video. If Rossman's video is a hitpiece to make Linus look bad and Steve good, then this part of the rambles is the reverse of that, sadly. I would have expected Matt of all people to realize a video where you say nothing about what is being said and just voice your dislike for 30 minutes isn't worth publishing. I'm almost on edge calling it dishonest because of how much it misrepresents what's being said in the video.
Some examples of what I think Matt got wrong:
- Doesn't mention that the big premise of Rossman's video is that Linus used a screenshot as evidence against Steve of a message sent to a phone he knew Steve didn't check anymore because it was doxxed.
- Says Rossman held evidence for 6 years to use on Linus, while it was Linus that re-used that evidence years later before anything to strongarm Rossman into apologizing for an unfavorable agreement to go to Linus's conference, which is the only reason it was brought up again.
- Rossman never claims to dismiss anything an asshole says, just that you cannot let them define (and redefine) the standards you hold yourself to, and even criticized Steve for doing so. To add on to that, I can't really say the video is all that positive of Steve, but indeed does air grievances with Linus's way of handling things.
- The screenshot of the comment at the end is lopsided because Rossman DID voice his concerns with Linus around the time that it happened, and he got shit FROM Linus for it. He just didn't make a big fuss about it and so it wasn't a big drama, which the commenter didn't know and that's why they got ratio'd.
Rossman's video honestly gave me vibes of Matt's takedown videos (Albeit less in depth and well structured, since it's not even side content he makes), so it's a shame not to see it be taken on it's merit, but rather being dismissed seemingly because Rossman's style is that he's combative and abrasive, which is often a complaint to people going against the grain, including Matt himself.
I agree, I do think, as Louis acknowledged, that his video was too long and the criticisms were too scattered throughout. I also think that they’re working a bit too hard to convince us that Linus is a jerk… I have no problem believing that, most highly successful people are to a certain extent. And it’s right to point out that Linus’s excuse about not going public with Honey is nonsense justification after the fact. I think what is most galling to them is how Linus really, really wants people to believe he’s a good guy and blameless, when their personal interactions show this to be false. The Rossman/Burke side does have more in common with Matto’s crusade against his critics… they probably should just let it go, but they feel like it’s an injustice. I think Matt identifies more with Linus though because he has a stronger personal connection to him and the old emails being referenced by Louis is making Matt draw a comparison to his old clips being shown that isn’t really there. Rossman showed the old emails to point out how Linus has brought up the past to criticize when it seemed it was a dead issue… which, yes, that opens Louis up to similar criticism, which is a recurring theme with both him and Steve. If they wanted to take the high ground, they probably shouldn’t have continued to talk about this. And in the grand scheme of things, this is all pretty silly, but one could say the same about Matt and Willy Mac.
All of that to say is no one has really handled this very well, but I don’t see how you can think that Linus is blameless or even a nice guy after considering everything.
@@terig5584 Very well put, and yes. I definitely think there are plenty of valid criticisms to give to Louis and Steve (Eg. I do think the idea that Steve is just some nerd with 2M subs is also too favorable), showing Louis' bias. But I'm just kind of sad that Matt of all people didn't seem to give the valid criticism of Linus any time in the ramble.
Viper didn’t watch the full video of louis and then talks shit over them. So hilarious and hipocritical from s guy who releases videos that are too long and complains others don’t fully warch it yet he does the same to others and then spread misinformation, do you agree?
@@deivytrajan I'm willing to give Matto the benefit of the doubt here that he did watch the video, but was either not receptive to what was actually being said, or had some reasons he didn't communicate well enough back to us. I'm hoping he does give it another thought. It's far from the level of dishonesty that has been done to him, but it's indeed on the same road.
It's unfortunate that rambles is gone but I'm glad you lied.
This style of rambles is meant to last for a month but it barely last me a day lol
you think Heat was slow ? try Dog Day Afternoon !
My problem with new Year's Eve is that it's so late lol
I agree with a lot of what you said here about LTT/GN/Rossman topic, i watch last two fairly regularly, and while i don't particularly like Linus, i do agree that (besides his silence on Honey topic) he doesn't really feel like "trying to stir up the drama" unlike Steve (that comment in a Honey vid was actual surprise, i thought it was meant to go somewhere, but when it didn't it felt weirdly "hostile" and somewhat off-topic), though i'm not sure if it was meant to be such. From my perspective, it's hard to believe GN/Rossman are doing it "for the sake of drama" and views, i also don't think there's some personal motivation to take down LTT (or Linus personally), it looks more to me like they treat Linus less like a "fellow TH-camr, who you can talk with freely" and more like a "big industry man, who doesn't care about others", both likely true to some degree, but it really feels like rather than looking at Linus in a nuanced and fair way, GN/Louis are attacking a strawman of him they perceive. But in the same manner, Matto, you as well feel like dismissing perspective of GN and assuming the worst of Rossman and Steve, which ends up feeling like everyone is trying to antagonize each other instead of just trying to solve the problems that each side mentions.
Before i didn't feel like it was a good idea for Steve to talk with Linus, but this video (which feels a lot like a perspective from someone who is on the opposite side, as in like "watched a lot of LTT and knows those people more than GN" when compared to my "watched a lot of GN"-bias) actually persuaded me that it would likely be the best course of action, as i feel like everyone in this situation misinterprets the motivations and character of each other, so Linus and Steve should just sit down and talk like normal people, not as "journalist and CVO" or "two tech-brotherhood TH-camrs". As naive as that may sound, i feel like they need to give each other benefit of the doubt and attempt to speak honestly with each other in a casual setting.
P.S. Seeing as Linus did invite Steve to a discussion, and Steve pushed that offer away, i feel like it's kinda GN's turn to show their willingness to right the wrongs and get this whole situation resolved regardless if they feel they're right or wrong in this matter. I doubt a call or email will suffice, there does need to be a face-to-face meeting i feel.
You said that all Louis has done is criticize Linus but missed the parts where he has gone out of his way to praise him like for example his stance on repair and open software, his framework investment and even recently just a few months ago Linus getting his channel striked for suggesting TH-cam alternatives. Aside that I understand the argument of GN trying to become a drama farm youtube channel (even though I do not agree with it) but what incentive does Louis have to farm drama views? He has never taken a paid sponsorship and continually asks his viewers to use ad block. Unlike GN and LTT his source of income is his repair business and his non profit. And the way I see it, I would 100% trust the person who isn't trying to sell me something over someone who is, even setting aside Louis's customer rights advocacy that he has been fighting for years.
I didn't really care about Linus's drama and still watched his videos even 2 weeks ago. Additionally I have never even seen a GN video from beginning to end. But seeing Linus actually read the dictionary definition of morality on stream, willingly sending a message to GN's phone that he know he stopped using years ago and whining when he didn't reply and calling Louis's video a "hitpiece" in the opening minute of his next podcast is psychotic to me and I can't in good conscience watch his videos anymore, even though I was a regular viewer of his content for close to a decade and can't deny the good that he has done.
Also "Informative and unfortunate" is a running gag on Louis's channel.
I really hope you read this comment and reconsider your views, even though this might be as Louis put it in his comments as a reply to you, parasocial.
relevant video th-cam.com/video/T38pZ9pFXA0/w-d-xo.html even funnier because he talks about Linus in a positive light in that video.
@@ShihammeDarc his motivation is personal dislike of Linus.
Viper seeks the truth, but then it comes to other people Viper will miss the truth and not do proper research… This is why so many people misunderstand viper
@@theVtuberCh 4 months ago he literally made a video praising linus for suggesting youtube alternatives and getting his channel striked
He has made plenty of positive videos on Linus, even recently.
The only negative videos on Linus I can remember from Louis is the recent one with GN and the lttstore warranty video.
louis business does not care about youtube, to him it's just a place where he posts his thoughts or informs the viewer about tech related news that.can affect the condumer, I think his main business is repairing electronics.
Linus has a different type of business so he relies on sponsorships, and just because of this, does not mean he's not trustworthy.
Even when you think you are not being sold something does not mean that's the truth, he might be selling his ideas, his way of thinking and conducting business and you "buy it" when you consume his content and spread how good you think Louis is.
The original whistleblower might be the main culprit here, but Linus was just the tastiest target.
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28:15 I saw that person in a collab with another creator, and I almost didnt want to watch it because of her.
Linus Did nothing wrong? I mean, why didn't they take all that time off and apologize and so on?
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Honestly Linus's response to the honey drama has been absolutely horrible.
1:46:11 No, Steve Burke actually excluded TRUE information that would’ve made Linus look even worse if he had included it but he didn’t because he didn’t want to make him look like an idiot.
Do you even watch Louis Rossmann’s video?! Or maybe you just missed it since you’re always watching things at 2 times speed.
You’re just wrong about this Matt.
Why would you cut out evidence, thats terrible journalism. And if he cut out evidence how do you know it exists? How do you know its true?
Did Steve say he did it? I dont know, I'm an outsider to this drama but if so isn't that now just him saying Linus is stupid anyway, now without the evidence? Plus it paints him as virtuous when at least that would be anything but.
Agreed. Wrong this time. Sad to see as Viper influences so many of us. Myself included.
Stop fanboying to Louis. Did yo even check Linus proof?
@@deivytrajan You mean the proof that Linus sent a text to a number he knew wasn't active for years, which he chose to ignore
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As a journalism student, when an influencer says that they are the gold standard of discourse, especially journalism - I instantly distrust them. Any journalist that's genuinely following journalism standards, just won't advertise that stuff, because the standard of journalism is composed of a lot of elements such as: ethics, connections, information gathering, verification, dissemination, and a lot more. Ideally, a "gold standard" journalist shouldn't even call anyone "assholes" when discussing about them, because then they're already introducing bias in their argument and thus further reducing the credibility of their discussion.
1:40:13 I am trying not to take sides but I was around 60% with Steve and 40% with Linus. Now after hearing this reasoning I have flipped and believe linus's side a but more.
I just wish Linus would apologize a bit more about the wrong phone number and +1 Louis situation but other then those it's now clear almost everything Louis and Steve have said is hypocritical in some way. If there is anything I hate more it's people who are hypocritical and who are narcissists.
I live with a narcissist and I never got that intention from Linus, I am however starting to get that feeling from Louis. But I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and recognize that they are also human.
They need to apologize a lot more then Linus does and steve needs to grow a pair when it comes to personal situations. He shouldn't hide behind lawyers and websites because he doesn't have a smoking gun of evidence.
Everyone who has watched Steve over the years all recognized that he was a Journalist. He worked with journalists by consulting with them. He used them as his personal ruler of integrity and when it comes down to his own integrity he hid away. That's not fair, he who throws stones should not live in a glass house.
How is Louis narcisist? Are you freaking crazy? Did you even listen to Louis 1h long video? Linus didn’t call out honey because he didn’t want any issues with community, Louis doesn’t gie a shit he will call out the BS companies do.
@@deivytrajani find it sooo bizarre to defend a guy that (unknowingly at the time) pushed a scam and refused to tell people about it when he found out because "that would damage his image" and using bs arguments when called out.
People are weird man...
@@deivytrajan the guy misusing NPD and diagnosing linus with it despite having no qualifications or knowledge on the disorder is totally not displaying traits of narcissism. right. that makes complete sense.
I’m so glad you are getting flamed in the comments for that god awful end segment. If hypocrisy had a face it would be you during those 30 minutes.
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Viper I'm usually so behind you. You generally prove a great point and change my mind or decide my position. But you're laughably wrong and disconnected from your audience here. We are not TH-camrs like you. We do not sympathize with Linus as you do, which is understandable given you see his situation as similar to yours when you are attacked. But you are hands down letting your disposition change your truth.
Viper fanboying to Linus so hard.. Viper didn’t even fully watch Louis video, nor did Viper read GN receipts. It’s hipocritical how viper attacks other people for not watching his hour long video essays but then does the same mistake and doesn’t watch / read other…
Or, quite possibly, being a creator puts you in the best spot to talk about this as he is both a view and someone who’s a creator. The average viewer has zero clue what it’s like being a creator and almost always thinks as it’s an online space anything can be said with no context or anything valid and still make points
I mean, I get the appeal of believing in double standard bullshit, so you do you.
Btw you still have the membership.
@@deivytrajan why tf do people like you even care abt controversies, like me personally they could all say the n-word a hundred times, be a nazi and support communism and i'd still watch them cuz i watch them for their content that i like, not some bullshit that they did
I do not believe Billidlabs ever said the prototype they sent to LMG was supposed to stay with them.
It was their only prototype at the time so it would be rediculous.
I do not believe Steve's coverage of Linus' weird actions were blown up by Steve.
I think LMG acts like they are the gold standard in journalism and are simply not that.
They also built quite a case for being a bad company. I don't care what their internal research did. Those researches are pretty much a PR move.
It will put everyone in the company on edge and there's not that much of an incentive for people to come out. Especially not if your management has toxic people in there.
Which with what I heard about
It is absolutely rediculous to me as well that LMG did not bring out news after finding out Honey was screwing them over.
They felt okay with finding it out and keeping it to themselves.
It would have been a great look to say Honey was doing strange things behind the scenes and it would have been great for consumers to know.
It is not entirely fair to say Steve should have talked about something in the past. Often in interacting with others we give them the benefit of the doubt. At the moment we find out someone may have been a bad influence or even just a bad person, we can realise what happened before was absolutely wrong. He wouldn't have to put stuff in a folder to still have old e-mails or messages.
Linus being a jerk very much has allot to do with the issue at hand, if he is a jerk and does business in a jerk way, we can actually assume he lead his company as a jerk and therefor he has (perhaps only in the past) created a toxic workplace.
As I believe Steve pointed out his whole sodding team wanted to have more time for projects, Linus only wanted people to come in at low wages because they had to prove themselves (which is something very toxic as the area they are in is insanely expensive to live in) and I think it illustrates well what he is like as a boss :)
I still believe everything Madison said about LTT and I feel like some of my other favourite people on LTT leaving is not because Linus is a good boss.
Steve does not need to reach out to Linus if he does not want to, he often does not reach out to people when they do video's on a company, as I assume Linus would try and respond in a way to undermine their whole case with bad reasoning.
I do not believe Steve being honest about Linus says anything about his character aside from him being honest. If we look at Linus as an abuser; I can see why any reaching out could be him acting nice, not him being nice.
I can not see your point about Steve inventing issues.
I truly liked the video Louis Rossman made on the situation as he is someone whom I feel, like Steve is always honest. Rossman is an absolute gem in his way of covering various topics.
Linus saying he fucked up in small situations can be as easily be seen as more manipulations. When a person owns up to a small issue, they can often get away with the real issue, the big issue at hand. So I am not impressed that they do this. Sound like something a vulnerable narcissist would do.
I have a feeling that you have a autistic way of thinking, I also have this way of thinking so I can relate quite a bit :)
And I do not feel you for saying how Linus has owned up to issues, as all he had to do was say sorry to Madison, own up and fire the people who hurt her and own up to his bad management.
Louis does not act like Steve is a child, he seems to think that Steve should be able to show himself more and not act like he is a corporate guy and be able to talk more from the heart.
Now I can not say if TechJesus wants to do this, but it should be okay for someone to talk about that.
talking to the subject of a video is not inherrently unethical, nor is it inherrently ethical to reach out to people.
I can not see your reasoning here mate :)
Linus does not have to be hostile pubicly to someone for them to talk about them.
I think his premise of assholes is an interesting take. You seem to basically be saying the same thing as Louis Rossmann about Steve.
It is completely normal to me to not say you dislike a creator in your area of expertise unless it comes to a boil.
Okay at the end you are just taking Steve out of context.
He doesn't say he is going to do things like spread missinformation, take people out of context or anything like that.
You saying that Linus is the only one who aknowledges wrongdoing makes me think you know nothing about Louis Rossman :)
Do you really watch the video till the end?
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Um but matt it is still banned??? You cant redownload it (at least where i live) even though trump apparently unbanned it. Like in the app store it says "TikTok and ByteDance Ltd. apps are no longer available in the United States, and visitors to the United States might have limited access to features." So idk what u mean by it was only banned 12 hours...
They took down the servers for 12 hours.
@@DarkViperAU ah ok welp idk that
looking at the comments I thought Rossmann the store did somethingq
While I can appreciate Viper of trying to see a different perspective but Pirate has a HUGE ego lol.
My God, Matt is once again completely wrong about a subject he thinks he’s right about. 😑
Dude probably didn’t even watch Lousi Rossmann’s video. In fact I know he didn’t because he missed the part where Steve excluded information to make Linus look better than he actually is, not the other way around.
Ffs Matt, stop watching everything at 2 times speed and actually digest what you’re watching!
Meh they are indeed ashole
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