I was trained as an infection control officer before Covid. During the pandemic what I saw happening was like the woman in the commercial "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works". Bureaucrats ,politicians and doctors saying the opposite of what we had learned and those expressing different opinions being silenced. Not to mention the sheer ineptitude of those officials i had to coordinate with. I have very little social trust left.
Small correction my friend, a lot of villages in Eastern Europe have pretty high social trust, difference is the people don’t really trust public institutions or lawmakers since back in communist times the laws didn’t apply to party members or their friends
Imperial Russia wasn’t sending hundreds of thousands of it’s own people to gulags, murdering millions of political dissidents and faithful christian, burning down and dessecrating churches and synagogues, and creating economic policies that lead to starvation and death en mass (Holodomor). They were not nearly as bad as each other.
I have noticed that when someone suspects me of being likely to do something that they are generally likely to do it and then think everyone else is at their level.
a good baseline, but sometimes they just have good pattern recognition. for example as a trucker i assume every car and most trucks will drive like idiots. not because im a bad driver but because if i want to avoid a crash that's how i have to drive.
To dimwits, this conclusion is obvious because they look at the obvious truth and think it's obvious because they're not smart enough to believe the midwit prestige seekers when they make obvious lies, nor can they recognize when they're supposed to shut up, social pressures are invisible to them. You only need rationally-backed reasoning to recognize the truth when you're too smart to blindly trust your instincts unfounded. It makes you vulnerable to midwit propaganda until you finally get exposed to the concrete reasons behind the truth. You are not immune to propaganda no matter how smart you are. Beyond that, you need the courage to say the truth out loud and accept the consequences or you're only marginally better than the midwits that get high on their own supply.
I'm a lil disappointed we didn't get a final word from Churro Man or something like that. BUT it is different that you ended on a lighter tone than usual so that's something.
Seems like there's a sense in which that's not true. Play the trust game but only if there's a lot of social trust in society. So you know, pull yourself up by your boot straps.
@@connorbennett1517 Is it, though? Looking at the listed high-trust countries, the US is a standout because it's not ethnically and culturally homogenous.
We used to call those people “felons” and we used to not have to worry about dealing with them, because violating someone else’s individual rights used to be a crime. To put it simply, we must reorient our Justice system back to dishing out actual justice. Felons shouldn’t be able to vote, own a firearm or otherwise enjoy the same rights as a law-abiding citizen because they’ve already shown contempt for those rights.
"The more you live up to your promises and interact with people honestly, the more likely they are to follow your lead" Unless they're already rotten, some people you can give the shirt off your back to, they'll punch you claiming you were preparing to do them in first and run off, and a little over half the time it's because they were just an awful person.
yeah but it's easier to deal in absolutes then in nuances, also i don't know what study he's quoting but crime is spiking in western europe and in eastern europe is not, if someone want's an example of social trust you can trust the insurance companies that they'll pay the medical insurance in america, oh wait you can trust them like the second coming of Jesus but they will take your money and when push comes to shovel they will "Sorry the policy you have paid into isn't covering this lifesaving treatment".
I wonder what the churro guy thought about Seamus' impromptu lecture about social trust? He's conspiciously absent once Seamus got to a good stopping point for comments.
Yeah. I don't think that last "or" part is on the bible verse but that's the implication. Doesn't make it right but that's exactly how most people work.
That does not work when they are sado or wants to be enslaved, 50% of the humans actually wants to be slaves that do not need to think themselves, and they are afraid of freedom and other people that like freedom.
That isn't the whole story though. If you want to trust someone, look at their motives and if you like theirs then look at your own. If you can't take the same risks they seem to, then it's best to believe they aren't... but if you can then you should trust them.
An interesting corollary may be found in the observation that trustworthy people are more often to have a default of trust and untrustworthy ones one of mistrust.
An interesting corollary may also be found in the observation that trustworthy people can be mistrustful after being taken advantage of by untrustworthy people.
This issue is more important and goes a lot deeper than this video shows. Social trust requires that a society and almost all the individuals in it conform to and enforce an objective morality. Right and wrong have to be clearly defined and those who insist on doing wrong have to be strictly dealt with. Western civilization isn't doing that anymore. You can't have property rights in a place where theft is never punished. You can't trust a label in a place where fraud goes unpunished. You can't have personal safety in a place where violent criminals walk the streets.
Reagan said it best. Trust but verify. Trust that the other guy doesn't intend to cheat you, but verify you're getting what was promised. Like checking your order at the drive through before leaving.
It’s important to note that societies are often like living organisms. In which their societal personalities can shift from time period to time period based in multiple factors (shifting cultural norms, legal systems, ideology, religion, or demographics). And it has been documented that low trust societies can eventually (with necessary mass societal reforms) become high trust societies. It has sadly also been documented (way more often in recent times) the phenomenon of high trust societies slowly transforming into extremely dysfunctional low trust societies. Usually due to rapid uncontrolled changes towards unhealthy population growth or even decline, chronic economic turbulence, rapid aging or changing demographics, increasing political instability or systemic corruption, unexpected longterm climate changes, etc.
The problem is we are actively incentived against prosocial behavior in a low trust society, and that behavior doesn't even have to be illegal or even immoral. I like to use the example of Pat Tillman, the NFL player who turned down millions to serve his country. He was the ideal 'high trust society' guy, a truly selfless man who gave up a ton of money to stay loyal to the NFL team that drafted him, and then turned down their lesser offer the following year (still tons of money) to join the Army. He died to friendly fire that was covered so that his death could be celebrated without controversy, even his own family was deceived, and that's the optimistic assumption. The pessimistic one is that he was murdered by higher ups and covered up to prevent him from trashing the US occupation of Iraq once his tour was finished, because this was an election year and support for the war was already plummeting. I don't want to get too into details, but I personally believe that outcome to be far more likely, but you can research yourself. I hate living in a world like this, but this is reality we live in.
This type of logic is why my stepmother never let her daughter go out trick-or-treating on Halloween. She thinks everyone is out poisoning Halloween candy. My sister and I, and my friends and kids in my town went out trick-or-treating every year for years, and no one has ever gotten poisoned. It's an urban legend.
Vote for someone that was installed and never voted in by peers, vetted or worked for the position debating and running for it. Social trust, no. They believe you are stupid.
Another aspect of a high-trust society is social cohesion. Diversity is negatively correlated with trust, and demographics that tend to steal from and murder their own naturally lower trust in communities where they are inserted.
Seamus conveniently leaves out how white neighborhoods used to be safe enough that people didn't even lock their doors; whereas now everywhere "diversity" has been injected trust has gone down and crime has gone up. Way up. Everywhere, from New Zealand to Australia to USA to Canada to Ireland, Britain, Sweden, EVERYWHERE.
The sad part is this is true and REALLY bad in some markets. Try buying a car second hand. "It just needs a starter. I have one but don't have the time to install it." basically has most people thinking "There are bigger problems, but i'm trying to hide them and dump them on someone else while recouping most of my loss." Sadly, there are a lot of scams going on. Basically nobody trusts a car without a title.
Fake news! I KNOW that a vending machine will steal my money and not fully drop that snickers bar to the catch tray, BUT I FEED IT MONEY ANYWAYS! Take that, FreedomToons 🍫
I wonder if that social trust score has gone down with all the DEI/woke/general anti-American rhetoric being pushed around by the media and bureaucrats?
Yeah we are in a genuinely divided country... Say if that correlation does go both ways, then wouldn't that be something that communists actively pine for to make that happen?
See Ethnic Diversity and Social Trust: A Narrative and Meta-Analytical Review. "We find a statistically significant negative relationship between ethnic diversity and social trust across all studies. The relationship is stronger for trust in neighbors, and when studied in more local contexts."
Great, sensible, wholesome video. This is exactly what every 12-year-old who says that he doesn't want to have a job when he grows up should have to watch.
Correction: migrants who refuse to assimilate A migrant who assimilates and becomes really part of the community, you know, an actual migrant who sought better opportunities and not just economic migrant claiming refugee status
Seamus you missed the largest driver of social trust (or lack thereof), homogeneity. Ethnically and culturally homogenous countries have much higher social trust than diverse countries. Japan, Finland, Switzerland, South Korea, Norway, Iceland, Poland, and states like Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont are quite homogenous and have very high levels of social trust. Whereas South Africa, Brazil, Uganda, and now parts of France, England, California, and many (if not most) major cities in the US are diverse and have low levels of social trust.
I wouldn't say ethnicity is that important. Cultural homogeneity can be achieved with a diversity of ethnicity. All it needs is a solid foundation that everyone follows, but what is on top of that foundation can be as culturally diverse as it needs to. Being an American is a fine secular ideal to build that foundation, one of course many hate. But I think an even more solid cultural foundation is Christianity. Which you know gives more direction than the secular option. Of course, many hate that too.
you said right that high social trust correlates with a lot of good things, but i think the high social trust comes from the good things, like in an area with low crime ofc people are more trustworthy. By presenting it in a way that the social trust stands above the other parts i think its misrepresented as a causality. after watching the rest of the video, yea, you can forget my comment xd, you adequately adressed it.
He pointed out in the video it’s a double causality. High social trust leads to better living conditions and better living conditions lead to high social trust. This sadly means it’s pretty easy to end up in a downward spiral where a simple misunderstanding could collapse a society if enough time passes. And that’s ignoring actual bad actors.
Trust of strangers/society comes from knowing the other party has negative consequences from failing you and profits from your success. In other words, it is the result of incentives. It's not some sort of moral obligation. People who trust strangers, when the stranger's incentives are broken or aligned against them, will suffer as a result.
Speaking of trust within society, I find there is a huge difference when you compare big city life to small town life. I've lived in big cities, medium sized cities, and small towns. The social dynamic is vastly different.
Churro Man also has a reputation to protect. Imagine if he DID go around trying to poison people (and figuratively public trust). He'd eventually get caught and judged by his peers ether at the bench or with torches and pitchforks. His means of living depends on a good standing with his customers which incentives him to provide the best product possible so he can make a living. Otherwise he'll lose all his business to Taco Man... FROM THE FUTURE! Of course he has to actually be WILLING to compete and not just try to petition the government to make his business the only one in town. Otherwise you'd get a food desert.
Ok... But that's because those institutions have proven themselves untrustworthy. Plus, there's an easy solution: just don't interact with those untrustworthy groups. It's not like EVERY grocery store or EVERY law enforcement branch is bad. And if you can't discern for yourself based on evidence which groups your comfortable interacting with, your just gonna end up starving to death or something cause you aren't willing to engage with anyone. Unsurprisingly, the guy touting gloom and doom with the name "Hope is Anger", is entirely unhelpful.
Pretty much part of Argentina's culture "Viveza Criolla" => Pretty much a combination of the next set of ideas: 1- Everyone will take advantage of you 2- If you don't take advantage of everyone, due to point 1, then you're dumb That explain a lot of things... I know people from the US and Germany that are willing to help with anything, no questions asked, when I commented that to local friends and family everyone went "But there must be a caveat, no one gives anything to no one unless they take advantage of you" :/
99% of politicians is narsisisstic egoistical psychopaths', 1% of the politician is just puppets used as useful idiots by other politicians when they need a scapegoat.
In fact, China is also a society that suffers from habitual corruption. Parents of elementary school students give vouchers to teachers, and patients about to undergo surgery give cash to attending doctors. These are not even considered to challenge substantive social rules. For Western companies operating in China, their compliance departments often have to make some compromises and changes. In this sense, the high trust in China is the high trust under a kleptocracy. Thieves can predict what thieves will do, and gangsters can predict what gangsters will do. Meanwhile, since nearly two decades, the party is monitoring everything. People who are satisfied with the CCP's rule will say something like this: "If you have not committed a crime, why do you hate surveillance?" "Since you say you trust the police, why don't you hand over your personal datas?"
so Romania is in eastern Europe and I think in Eastern Europe the situation is more of a mixed bag like for my country for instance, Romania Government distrust is widespread, but Romanians tend to trust: 1. Businesses: Especially local entrepreneurs, SMEs, and startups. 2. Peer-to-peer relationships: Friends, family, neighbors, and community members. This is consistent with: World Values Survey (2019): Romania scores high on interpersonal trust (67.4%). 2. Global Entrepreneurship Monitor (2020): Romanian entrepreneurs report high levels of trust in fellow business owners. I don’t know about Russia or Ukraine, but this is most likely the case with Poland, Croatia Slovenia, and the Baltic states in Eastern Europe
Kinda ironic how this brand of 2010s quirk humor suddenly feels so out of place nowadays with all the shadows hanging over society in the 2020s... since it only really works in a high social trust context, if you think about it. Thanks to social media, people my age now consider most forms of earnest, unguarded behavior as lame and cringe, a source of alienation and schadenfreude.
That's the kind of ending it would have if it was a FreedomToons video. Common Sense Soapbox tends to be more positive, more educational, and less politically divisive.
do a video about the centralization of banks, what does that mean and what will happen if they get decentralized. please give examples of countries that decentrailized their banks.
As much as I hate to admit it social cohesion is correlated with cultural and ethnic homogeneity. Japan is an excellent example of this. On the other hand I wouldn't want to live in Japan because there's enormous social pressure to conform. I prefer the greater individual freedom you find in multicultural societies.
I don't think that word means what you think it means. I will say this: I don't necessarily automatically trust people. I am more inclined to trust someone who talks and thinks like I do. But I have chosen to trust those who don't.
Not really .. the societies with highest social trist are industrial nations and culturally homogenous. France or the US tend to rank lower, compared to other western nations.
Same for litter, the more little, the more cryyme and less trust in the area. I pick it up around the area for 20+ years now and noticed a lot less littering.
Not gonna lie, I thought the Churro’s were gonna be a Chekov’s Gun, which they kind of were. We were expecting them to be a punchline, but they weren’t, which helps solidify Seamus’ argument on trust by showing that if we expect everything to be a punchline, we wouldn’t do as much.
It was really well written in that way. I think the reason we expect it to go wrong is because Shamus barely brought it up and Bob was like "aight bet I'm sold, not even going to be cautious" But he was in the right in the end. A setup of a fool without a punchline, showing the fool to not have been a fool all along.
I've long found that while I may not trust my government to do the right thing, I can usually trust my community. We all mind our own business, make sure to be polite, and at least offer to help when it seems necessary or is just nice. In general, we can trust each other. We have faith in each other.
Let's be real here. Social trust has been declining in America... this is because of many factors wich is too much to mention. But this is also happening in Europe. For similiar but also different reasons. And due to this crime rates been going up. But the biggest problem with Social Trust decreasing... is that people feel JUSTIFIED to lower Social Trust. I litterly see more people go: "The system is bad." Wich lowers social trust and while TRUE. They aren't fixing the system and changing the trust, nor are those in the system trying to fix it. So no one is fixing it.. the system keeps going down.. people feel justified to commit bigger crimes to "Get their dues" The Pandemic and a certain movement during the pandemic about Police Injustice lowered social trust really low.. and what happened? RIOTS started happening.... So demonstrations started geting cut off.. wich lowered the trust evne more.. resulting in more riots. At this point... it's time to fix the system. And how do we do it? Well it's very complex and I don't know how exactly... And with "The system" I mean all the systems of our society before we grind into a halt.
1:22 While is true that those countries can be high in trust levels but here is a question, yes a "doubt". How do I know if their trust is by "own will" or forced by "fear"?. I mean in the case of China, I'm pretty sure the people are trustable because if someone try to be a scammer or steal you, they get a severe punishment in exchange. No idea with the other countries to be honest but it would be neat if the trust is by own will for default in society.
Encouraging others to trust baselessly is itself unethical. It is good to behave in trustworthy ways, but there is a huge gap between "I am a good actor" and "we can assume most people are good, and its good for everyone if we buy these suspicious churros."
0:22 Don't think the guy would intentionally poison you but serving food past its expiration date to reduce food cost or even just improperly storing it will result in food poisoning. Of course any business owner is going to say they only purchase high quality ingredients from reputable suppliers, store the products in optimal conditions, and will not sell any product that no longer meet their high quality standard. These claims are almost always false.
Can’t believe that some of y’all still fall for this race war stuff. Can’t you see, this is what Serrano powerful figure want, petty fighting between races that draws the attention away from these “elites” and their actions.
I’m very happy churro man was legit
Next video. Food protection and societal collapse
Same. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop the whole time. My trust in society has gained a +1 modifier.
@@tsukasa67 Something like start vomiting or something, specially after everyone took the churro.
Churros are incredible.
I think this is a lot more about us than anything
I was trained as an infection control officer before Covid. During the pandemic what I saw happening was like the woman in the commercial "That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works". Bureaucrats ,politicians and doctors saying the opposite of what we had learned and those expressing different opinions being silenced. Not to mention the sheer ineptitude of those officials i had to coordinate with.
I have very little social trust left.
Small correction my friend, a lot of villages in Eastern Europe have pretty high social trust, difference is the people don’t really trust public institutions or lawmakers since back in communist times the laws didn’t apply to party members or their friends
I would say this mistrust began even earlier than that.Imperial Russia was almost as bad as the Soviet Union.
This is about entire countries,not villages.
I have heard of laws not being applied to members of congress in my country, too.
Imperial Russia wasn’t sending hundreds of thousands of it’s own people to gulags, murdering millions of political dissidents and faithful christian, burning down and dessecrating churches and synagogues, and creating economic policies that lead to starvation and death en mass (Holodomor). They were not nearly as bad as each other.
The laws still don’t apply to party members or their friends. The only difference is the flag they leech off of.
Churro man being an honest entrepreneur providing Churros for us at a fair price has restored my faith in humanity
He fried them in motor oil.
All this talk about crime, corruption, and social trust, and ain't nobody gonna address the giant prehistoric-sized crocodile right behind them.
It's Florida
Don’t worry she’s trained
Florida Man trusts that there is a emergency clinic on every street corner that accepts cash and doesn't ask questions.
That's a good point. She probably wanted some churros, too.
@@DudeTheMightyshe did get a churro.
I have noticed that when someone suspects me of being likely to do something that they are generally likely to do it and then think everyone else is at their level.
a good baseline, but sometimes they just have good pattern recognition.
for example as a trucker i assume every car and most trucks will drive like idiots.
not because im a bad driver but because if i want to avoid a crash that's how i have to drive.
It's called "projection."
Some people project so much... they should work in a theater.
There's a correlation between social trust and a lack of crime? No way, mindblowing
To dimwits, this conclusion is obvious because they look at the obvious truth and think it's obvious because they're not smart enough to believe the midwit prestige seekers when they make obvious lies, nor can they recognize when they're supposed to shut up, social pressures are invisible to them.
You only need rationally-backed reasoning to recognize the truth when you're too smart to blindly trust your instincts unfounded. It makes you vulnerable to midwit propaganda until you finally get exposed to the concrete reasons behind the truth. You are not immune to propaganda no matter how smart you are. Beyond that, you need the courage to say the truth out loud and accept the consequences or you're only marginally better than the midwits that get high on their own supply.
It’s almost as if the channel’s name is common sense soapbox
There's an even _greater_ correlation between higher IQ and lack of crime.
One might even draw a _causation_ from such data points.
Im sure the guy that spend 10 years studying trust, came to a more detailed conclusion.
3.5% of the population (black males aged 13 to 35). 65% of non-familial violent assaults nationwide.
I'm a lil disappointed we didn't get a final word from Churro Man or something like that.
BUT it is different that you ended on a lighter tone than usual so that's something.
I was expecting the shoe to drop and for Bob to keel over with stomach cramps and everyone else to worried-ly look at the camera
Imagine social trust just being a cognition of the government.
Seems like science-fiction.
@@mustang607the democrats live in fairy tale world.
Looking at the size of Florida Man's gator... I'm convinced he's somehow found a living population of Deinosuchus.
A time traveling Florida man.
@@zionleach3001 With Florida, I don't think he'd need to time travel.
oh thats adorable you think those are the big ones
Never play the trust game with politicians. They win everytime.
Seems like there's a sense in which that's not true. Play the trust game but only if there's a lot of social trust in society.
So you know, pull yourself up by your boot straps.
I'm glad this didn't have a twist ending where all the characters got sick. I think the message resonates better how it's presented.
.... Seamus, i appreciate that you are still wearing a tie. No dress shirt, just trunks and a tie.
Respect.
What i heard is that we should import loads of people who dont like us so that societal trust plummets....
of course! diversity is our strength comrade!
If everyone has nothing then everyone can trust that nobody is going to try and take anything from them.
What are jew trying to say? 🤔
I'm sure that's not helping the situation, but I feel the deterioration of social trust comes from elsewhere.
@@connorbennett1517 Is it, though?
Looking at the listed high-trust countries, the US is a standout because it's not ethnically and culturally homogenous.
This was honestly one of the best videos you guys have put out! That explains some of why Greenville, North Carolina is so nice.
Why that town?
This reminds me the question, if someone doesn't respect your individual rights why should you respect theirs?
Because you should strive to be better then them, and not stoop to their level
@@nikoclesceri2267 True, but I think the point of the question is to illustrate the importance of social trust. I'm probably wrong, though.
We used to call those people “felons” and we used to not have to worry about dealing with them, because violating someone else’s individual rights used to be a crime.
To put it simply, we must reorient our Justice system back to dishing out actual justice. Felons shouldn’t be able to vote, own a firearm or otherwise enjoy the same rights as a law-abiding citizen because they’ve already shown contempt for those rights.
@@ManFromThePits You are not wrong. That is exactly the point.
Because actions are good or bad regardless of the agents.
"The more you live up to your promises and interact with people honestly, the more likely they are to follow your lead"
Unless they're already rotten, some people you can give the shirt off your back to, they'll punch you claiming you were preparing to do them in first and run off, and a little over half the time it's because they were just an awful person.
yeah but it's easier to deal in absolutes then in nuances, also i don't know what study he's quoting but crime is spiking in western europe and in eastern europe is not, if someone want's an example of social trust you can trust the insurance companies that they'll pay the medical insurance in america, oh wait you can trust them like the second coming of Jesus but they will take your money and when push comes to shovel they will "Sorry the policy you have paid into isn't covering this lifesaving treatment".
I'm shocked at the trust of standing in front of that sleeping gator presuming he won't wake up...
Its florida man's pet
Yeah, Gator's very Loyal to Florida Man
Bob better watch out or he'll balloon up, eating 15 churros at a time 😂
I wonder what the churro guy thought about Seamus' impromptu lecture about social trust? He's conspiciously absent once Seamus got to a good stopping point for comments.
He's a middle class working man, he doesn't have time for lectures like people on twitter, those churos arnt going to sell themselves.
Probably finding more people to sell to.
In short, the golden rule. Due to others as you'd have them due onto you or what you do to others will be done to you in return.
Yeah. I don't think that last "or" part is on the bible verse but that's the implication.
Doesn't make it right but that's exactly how most people work.
Fails when the others are a different culture and race. They are alien to you and you to them.
*Do
That does not work when they are sado or wants to be enslaved, 50% of the humans actually wants to be slaves that do not need to think themselves, and they are afraid of freedom and other people that like freedom.
Coach red pill said it best: if you want to trust someone, look at their motives.
That isn't the whole story though. If you want to trust someone, look at their motives and if you like theirs then look at your own. If you can't take the same risks they seem to, then it's best to believe they aren't... but if you can then you should trust them.
He was a wise man. It's a damn shame we lost him.
Shame he got buddy buddy with the Kremlin.
RIP
An interesting corollary may be found in the observation that trustworthy people are more often to have a default of trust and untrustworthy ones one of mistrust.
An interesting corollary may also be found in the observation that trustworthy people can be mistrustful after being taken advantage of by untrustworthy people.
This issue is more important and goes a lot deeper than this video shows. Social trust requires that a society and almost all the individuals in it conform to and enforce an objective morality. Right and wrong have to be clearly defined and those who insist on doing wrong have to be strictly dealt with. Western civilization isn't doing that anymore. You can't have property rights in a place where theft is never punished. You can't trust a label in a place where fraud goes unpunished. You can't have personal safety in a place where violent criminals walk the streets.
Your content is always spot-on and interesting. Thank you.
Most people: what an interesting idea!
Psychopaths: 🙃
Reagan said it best. Trust but verify.
Trust that the other guy doesn't intend to cheat you, but verify you're getting what was promised.
Like checking your order at the drive through before leaving.
You can check that order all you like, but you cant verify it isnt contaminated with lysteria.
A wholesome ending on these? How enjoyable. ^^
It’s important to note that societies are often like living organisms. In which their societal personalities can shift from time period to time period based in multiple factors (shifting cultural norms, legal systems, ideology, religion, or demographics).
And it has been documented that low trust societies can eventually (with necessary mass societal reforms) become high trust societies. It has sadly also been documented (way more often in recent times) the phenomenon of high trust societies slowly transforming into extremely dysfunctional low trust societies. Usually due to rapid uncontrolled changes towards unhealthy population growth or even decline, chronic economic turbulence, rapid aging or changing demographics, increasing political instability or systemic corruption, unexpected longterm climate changes, etc.
It’s not only economics that involves social trust. Social trust includes many aspects of life, including language and culture.
The problem is we are actively incentived against prosocial behavior in a low trust society, and that behavior doesn't even have to be illegal or even immoral.
I like to use the example of Pat Tillman, the NFL player who turned down millions to serve his country. He was the ideal 'high trust society' guy, a truly selfless man who gave up a ton of money to stay loyal to the NFL team that drafted him, and then turned down their lesser offer the following year (still tons of money) to join the Army. He died to friendly fire that was covered so that his death could be celebrated without controversy, even his own family was deceived, and that's the optimistic assumption. The pessimistic one is that he was murdered by higher ups and covered up to prevent him from trashing the US occupation of Iraq once his tour was finished, because this was an election year and support for the war was already plummeting. I don't want to get too into details, but I personally believe that outcome to be far more likely, but you can research yourself.
I hate living in a world like this, but this is reality we live in.
This type of logic is why my stepmother never let her daughter go out trick-or-treating on Halloween. She thinks everyone is out poisoning Halloween candy. My sister and I, and my friends and kids in my town went out trick-or-treating every year for years, and no one has ever gotten poisoned. It's an urban legend.
This is what should be taught in school... EVERY SEMESTER.
Love Ron's orange swim trunks. You can take the man out of a jail, but you can't take the jail out of a man. Or something.
That’s Bob. Ron is God knows where.
@@tetraxis3011Sshh. Speak of the devil, and all that.
Vote for someone that was installed and never voted in by peers, vetted or worked for the position debating and running for it.
Social trust, no. They believe you are stupid.
Another aspect of a high-trust society is social cohesion. Diversity is negatively correlated with trust, and demographics that tend to steal from and murder their own naturally lower trust in communities where they are inserted.
And it spirals downward until it reaches the level of Detroit and Lebanon.
Seamus conveniently leaves out how white neighborhoods used to be safe enough that people didn't even lock their doors; whereas now everywhere "diversity" has been injected trust has gone down and crime has gone up. Way up. Everywhere, from New Zealand to Australia to USA to Canada to Ireland, Britain, Sweden, EVERYWHERE.
While true, in today’s society it is but one of so many factors quickly deteriorating cohesion and trust in society.
The sad part is this is true and REALLY bad in some markets. Try buying a car second hand.
"It just needs a starter. I have one but don't have the time to install it." basically has most people thinking "There are bigger problems, but i'm trying to hide them and dump them on someone else while recouping most of my loss."
Sadly, there are a lot of scams going on. Basically nobody trusts a car without a title.
Fake news! I KNOW that a vending machine will steal my money and not fully drop that snickers bar to the catch tray, BUT I FEED IT MONEY ANYWAYS! Take that, FreedomToons 🍫
Why is Seamus wearing a Tie to the beach
Well, are you telling me that *you* don't wear a tie to the beach?
Gotta maintain standards
I only wear a tie to the beach.
Class. You uncivilized brute.
I wonder if that social trust score has gone down with all the DEI/woke/general anti-American rhetoric being pushed around by the media and bureaucrats?
Yeah we are in a genuinely divided country...
Say if that correlation does go both ways, then wouldn't that be something that communists actively pine for to make that happen?
See Ethnic Diversity and Social Trust: A Narrative and Meta-Analytical Review. "We find a statistically significant negative relationship between ethnic diversity and social trust across all studies. The relationship is stronger for trust in neighbors, and when studied in more local contexts."
It has and that is by design, it is part of WEF / UN`s "the great reset'" meant to ruin the economy and the modern society.
Take a look around, it’s already happening. Thanks internet and social media! 👍🏻
Great, sensible, wholesome video. This is exactly what every 12-year-old who says that he doesn't want to have a job when he grows up should have to watch.
Cultural homogeneous tends to also lead to high trust. Sadly more and more of Europe is losing that high trust due to migrants
Correction: migrants who refuse to assimilate
A migrant who assimilates and becomes really part of the community, you know, an actual migrant who sought better opportunities and not just economic migrant claiming refugee status
Seamus you missed the largest driver of social trust (or lack thereof), homogeneity. Ethnically and culturally homogenous countries have much higher social trust than diverse countries.
Japan, Finland, Switzerland, South Korea, Norway, Iceland, Poland, and states like Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont are quite homogenous and have very high levels of social trust.
Whereas South Africa, Brazil, Uganda, and now parts of France, England, California, and many (if not most) major cities in the US are diverse and have low levels of social trust.
If he would say it,youtube would take down the video.
I wouldn't say ethnicity is that important.
Cultural homogeneity can be achieved with a diversity of ethnicity. All it needs is a solid foundation that everyone follows, but what is on top of that foundation can be as culturally diverse as it needs to.
Being an American is a fine secular ideal to build that foundation, one of course many hate. But I think an even more solid cultural foundation is Christianity. Which you know gives more direction than the secular option. Of course, many hate that too.
I'm glad some people here noticed that too. Funny how le intellectual Seamus misses such an important detail. He often cvcks on race.
@@Yipper64 high trust societies in ethnicity diverse countries are the exception to the rule. So much so that I can't even think of one.
@william_hartman well that's just your lack of knowledge not a fact. America was one, at one point. It's not now, sure but it was one.
Ngl I was waiting the entire time for the churros to be poisoned.
you said right that high social trust correlates with a lot of good things, but i think the high social trust comes from the good things, like in an area with low crime ofc people are more trustworthy. By presenting it in a way that the social trust stands above the other parts i think its misrepresented as a causality.
after watching the rest of the video, yea, you can forget my comment xd, you adequately adressed it.
He pointed out in the video it’s a double causality. High social trust leads to better living conditions and better living conditions lead to high social trust.
This sadly means it’s pretty easy to end up in a downward spiral where a simple misunderstanding could collapse a society if enough time passes. And that’s ignoring actual bad actors.
The way its frames as "trying to poison you" where the reality would be "doesn't care if you get sick", misses a huge aspect of trust.
Trust of strangers/society comes from knowing the other party has negative consequences from failing you and profits from your success. In other words, it is the result of incentives.
It's not some sort of moral obligation.
People who trust strangers, when the stranger's incentives are broken or aligned against them, will suffer as a result.
I was half expecting the churro man to ask for his money he was waiting on being paid with or something at the end XD
Speaking of trust within society, I find there is a huge difference when you compare big city life to small town life. I've lived in big cities, medium sized cities, and small towns. The social dynamic is vastly different.
Trust in common sense soapbox is high, because they bring the receipts.
Remember when grocery stores didn't air seal ice cream containers? RIP 2000s
Churro Man also has a reputation to protect. Imagine if he DID go around trying to poison people (and figuratively public trust). He'd eventually get caught and judged by his peers ether at the bench or with torches and pitchforks.
His means of living depends on a good standing with his customers which incentives him to provide the best product possible so he can make a living. Otherwise he'll lose all his business to Taco Man... FROM THE FUTURE!
Of course he has to actually be WILLING to compete and not just try to petition the government to make his business the only one in town. Otherwise you'd get a food desert.
Replace "churro guy" with "Walmart" or "FBI", and see if you still feel the same levels of trust.🤣 Our society commited self deletion years ago.
Ok... But that's because those institutions have proven themselves untrustworthy. Plus, there's an easy solution: just don't interact with those untrustworthy groups. It's not like EVERY grocery store or EVERY law enforcement branch is bad. And if you can't discern for yourself based on evidence which groups your comfortable interacting with, your just gonna end up starving to death or something cause you aren't willing to engage with anyone.
Unsurprisingly, the guy touting gloom and doom with the name "Hope is Anger", is entirely unhelpful.
Which is why competition is there to keep them in check
@@Endless_Jaguar ok? But are you doing anything about it?
Pretty much part of Argentina's culture
"Viveza Criolla" => Pretty much a combination of the next set of ideas:
1- Everyone will take advantage of you
2- If you don't take advantage of everyone, due to point 1, then you're dumb
That explain a lot of things...
I know people from the US and Germany that are willing to help with anything, no questions asked, when I commented that to local friends and family everyone went "But there must be a caveat, no one gives anything to no one unless they take advantage of you"
:/
When I do stuff for people for free, I tell them to pass it on.
That's my payment.
China ? High trust ??😂😂😂 Ok you made me laugh gj
Shame politicians won't listen to this.....
99% of politicians is narsisisstic egoistical psychopaths', 1% of the politician is just puppets used as useful idiots by other politicians when they need a scapegoat.
Sowing distrust gives justification for government intervention
I love how Seamus wears a tie to the beach, even when he's not wearing a shirt 😂👌
0:29 i mean they might not intentionally do it but using poor or contaminated ingredients can result in poisoning
In fact, China is also a society that suffers from habitual corruption. Parents of elementary school students give vouchers to teachers, and patients about to undergo surgery give cash to attending doctors. These are not even considered to challenge substantive social rules. For Western companies operating in China, their compliance departments often have to make some compromises and changes. In this sense, the high trust in China is the high trust under a kleptocracy. Thieves can predict what thieves will do, and gangsters can predict what gangsters will do.
Meanwhile, since nearly two decades, the party is monitoring everything. People who are satisfied with the CCP's rule will say something like this: "If you have not committed a crime, why do you hate surveillance?" "Since you say you trust the police, why don't you hand over your personal datas?"
so Romania is in eastern Europe and I think in Eastern Europe the situation is more of a mixed bag like for my country for instance, Romania
Government distrust is widespread, but Romanians tend to trust:
1. Businesses: Especially local entrepreneurs, SMEs, and startups.
2. Peer-to-peer relationships: Friends, family, neighbors, and community members.
This is consistent with:
World Values Survey (2019): Romania scores high on interpersonal trust (67.4%).
2. Global Entrepreneurship Monitor (2020): Romanian entrepreneurs report high levels of trust in fellow business owners.
I don’t know about Russia or Ukraine, but this is most likely the case with Poland, Croatia Slovenia, and the Baltic states in Eastern Europe
Kinda ironic how this brand of 2010s quirk humor suddenly feels so out of place nowadays with all the shadows hanging over society in the 2020s... since it only really works in a high social trust context, if you think about it. Thanks to social media, people my age now consider most forms of earnest, unguarded behavior as lame and cringe, a source of alienation and schadenfreude.
I was expecting the churros to actually be poisoned, the churro guy starts laughing and pulls off his face to reveal Biden.
That's the kind of ending it would have if it was a FreedomToons video. Common Sense Soapbox tends to be more positive, more educational, and less politically divisive.
It's ominous that at least one political party is running on a platform of distrust.
and yet some people continue to reject integrating into our society.
do a video about the centralization of banks, what does that mean and what will happen if they get decentralized.
please give examples of countries that decentrailized their banks.
0:47 I'm guessing the fishing rod is worth more than the fish.
I DO want you to continue! Have my subscription!
Multiculturalism and 'racial diversity' also erodes trust.
Well.....s###
As much as I hate to admit it social cohesion is correlated with cultural and ethnic homogeneity. Japan is an excellent example of this.
On the other hand I wouldn't want to live in Japan because there's enormous social pressure to conform. I prefer the greater individual freedom you find in multicultural societies.
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
I will say this: I don't necessarily automatically trust people. I am more inclined to trust someone who talks and thinks like I do. But I have chosen to trust those who don't.
@@1dnc4mun If you don't understand how generalities work, you probably don't grok the subject well enough to correct someone.
@@studentofsmithMulticultural societies fail. So, no. You don’t seem clear on the specific meaning of multicultural.
Turns out a society that prioritizes selfishness as a virtue is doomed to fail
*Who could have fucking guessed that*
This makes me think of Gabe Newell
The societies with the highest levels of social trust are Japan, South Korea, and Iceland. What do all of these have in common?
Not that much personal freedom? Low corruption rates.
You can’t blame everything on race, that’s what certain “people and agencies” want you to do.
Social trust is also higher with heterogeneous ethnicities of the population.
Not really .. the societies with highest social trist are industrial nations and culturally homogenous. France or the US tend to rank lower, compared to other western nations.
Living up to your promises. I.e. "Accountability".
As a south american, I can testify that economic freedom means nothing with a fearful society.
Same for litter, the more little, the more cryyme and less trust in the area.
I pick it up around the area for 20+ years now and noticed a lot less littering.
Social cohesion is required to trust one another
Not gonna lie, I thought the Churro’s were gonna be a Chekov’s Gun, which they kind of were. We were expecting them to be a punchline, but they weren’t, which helps solidify Seamus’ argument on trust by showing that if we expect everything to be a punchline, we wouldn’t do as much.
It was really well written in that way. I think the reason we expect it to go wrong is because Shamus barely brought it up and Bob was like "aight bet I'm sold, not even going to be cautious"
But he was in the right in the end.
A setup of a fool without a punchline, showing the fool to not have been a fool all along.
The biggest trust everyone here had was the alligator in the back not eating them.
I've long found that while I may not trust my government to do the right thing, I can usually trust my community. We all mind our own business, make sure to be polite, and at least offer to help when it seems necessary or is just nice. In general, we can trust each other. We have faith in each other.
PRAISE BE TO THE GREAT, THE HONEST, THE INFALABLE CHURRO MAN!
Plot twist: the churros were indeed poisoned, they all just got hospitalized off screen
Let's be real here. Social trust has been declining in America... this is because of many factors wich is too much to mention.
But this is also happening in Europe. For similiar but also different reasons.
And due to this crime rates been going up. But the biggest problem with Social Trust decreasing... is that people feel JUSTIFIED to lower Social Trust.
I litterly see more people go: "The system is bad." Wich lowers social trust and while TRUE. They aren't fixing the system and changing the trust, nor are those in the system trying to fix it.
So no one is fixing it.. the system keeps going down.. people feel justified to commit bigger crimes to "Get their dues"
The Pandemic and a certain movement during the pandemic about Police Injustice lowered social trust really low.. and what happened? RIOTS started happening....
So demonstrations started geting cut off.. wich lowered the trust evne more.. resulting in more riots.
At this point... it's time to fix the system. And how do we do it? Well it's very complex and I don't know how exactly... And with "The system" I mean all the systems of our society before we grind into a halt.
I'm really surprised China was on the list of countries with high social trust
1:22
While is true that those countries can be high in trust levels but here is a question, yes a "doubt".
How do I know if their trust is by "own will" or forced by "fear"?.
I mean in the case of China, I'm pretty sure the people are trustable because if someone try to be a scammer or steal you, they get a severe punishment in exchange.
No idea with the other countries to be honest but it would be neat if the trust is by own will for default in society.
China having a high trust society? What I've seen has said otherwise...
armed society is a polite society
Petition for churro man to become a reoccurring character
Sick during this one, huh Seamus? 😂
Regardless, great as always 👌
Why is there an incredibly massive crocodile or something sleeping behind them?
Encouraging others to trust baselessly is itself unethical. It is good to behave in trustworthy ways, but there is a huge gap between "I am a good actor" and "we can assume most people are good, and its good for everyone if we buy these suspicious churros."
Government's solution to the problem of social trust is diversity.
I stumbled onto this channel and was like "Hey, this sounds like Seamus"...
0:22 Don't think the guy would intentionally poison you but serving food past its expiration date to reduce food cost or even just improperly storing it will result in food poisoning.
Of course any business owner is going to say they only purchase high quality ingredients from reputable suppliers, store the products in optimal conditions, and will not sell any product that no longer meet their high quality standard.
These claims are almost always false.
Look around to find that answer.
Noticed that you completely left out Putnam's research regarding different races.
Because then they would have to face a certain truth.
Can’t believe that some of y’all still fall for this race war stuff.
Can’t you see, this is what Serrano powerful figure want, petty fighting between races that draws the attention away from these “elites” and their actions.
I want a churro now
I dont know what a churro is
The 24 downvotes are the people that don't trust the Churro Man.
Damn!!! Now i crave some churros... chocolate covered, please, filled with pineapple jam