Thanks for your common sense analysis...I've listened to quite a few experts and almost all of them seem to be in a swoon over Ngannou, or they're reading from the same script! Having only watched the highlights I can't give an opinion on who won, but Ngannou performed very well and Fury was lacklustre and predictable. Gman Boxing gives an interesting take on why Fury performed so badly.
I don't give a crap about the fighters. I bet on a lot of fights so I go into every bet or fight with no bias. At the end of the fight I was confident Fury had one. After watching back I was even more confident the judges got it right except for the one judge that gave it to Francis.
I didn’t think it was a robbery. It was simply a close fight. I scored this for Tyson, but just barely. I didn’t think Ngannou showed enough ring generalship or scored enough points in rounds 7, 9, and 10. If he was just a bit more active in any of those rounds he may have won the fight.
Fury lost the fight even with the decision. His attitude towards boxing is disgusting. His return from mental health problems was a farse. He is a constant bullshiter. Scoring is subjective . you have based your argument on punch quantity not quality. Use your argument with 70% of fights and it falls down .
I respect your view and as you say,boxing is subjective BUT judges are given the following info."The judges will each award a score to the boxers, and the boxer demonstrating the higher number of punches will be awarded 10 points. If a knockdown did not occur during the round, the opponent is likely to receive nine points, and eight if he was knocked down." That's just a fact.
@Glenfunnyman so by your take on judging if a boxer jabs another boxer 10 times in a round he out scores a boxer who hits him with 9 power punches each punch rocks the boxer recieving the power punch and stiffens his legs and the ropes keep him up after each punch
@@Glenfunnyman That just shows even more how shit boxing is, if Ngannou came out and done what he done and the judges gave him the win maybe the sport would have some credibility but after Ngannou came and battered your boy from pillar to post they gave the score to Fury, only one judge was trying to reserve boxings long term credibility and the others were just worried about the short term money from the Usyk fight. This is why this sport is being consumed and swallowed whole by a greater sport
@@davidjohnson5369 No.Not for me. The power puncher would get my verdict, but that's not what happened on Saturday night. I gave the third round to. Ngannou. I had him winning four rounds including that 10-8. The BBBC guidelines are that "landing punches" are scoring punches but I agree with your point and IF I was judging, your aggressive guy would get my vote although it'd be close.
@@HesiJimbo He's NOT MY BOY and because you don't agree with the scoring system it doesn't alter the just result. If boxing is being consumed by a whole greater sport, I should let the sponsors know. There's a reason Ngannou wants out of MMA and into boxing and I'm an MMA fan.
fury is his own worst enemy he avoided fights then rants he is the most elusive heavy of all time his third fight with wilder is over rated ortiz was beating wilder far easier gets caught ref couldnt wait to stop fight
I don’t think fury lost at all, and I honestly believe he was carrying ngannou for entertainment purposes….if furry was fighting to really win he would have lit ngannou up, my mind is still blown that people don’t see that….fury could care less and is laughing to the bank
Hi Teeko. Thanks for watching AND taking the time to give your view. I don't think think Tyson carried him personally, I thinking he totally underestimated him. All about opinions. I agree he won. I don't even think it's up for debate from a technical viewpoint and I agree, they are BOTH laughing all the way to the bank.
I believe the outrage comes from the question of how effective was Tyson's punches .... When you got one guy that is tickling with his opponent with a Jab and the opponent is making your whole body jiggle with every punch .... The scoring gets a bit tricky. What matters more ? The exact number of ineffective punches or who was trying to do damage the whole fight ?
@@Glenfunnyman Queensbury rules should only be used for two established Boxers, not in these hybrid fights.. there should be hybrid rules too... When two Boxers are Boxing I would follow the Queenbury rules, every tip tap jab is counted.... Not these Boxer vs MMA fights.... I look at it like a REAL fight.... In a Real fight the guy with the more Mashed Up face is the Loser.
Tyson didn’t look good because of Francis skills. He shut Fury down and I hope you realize that. Ngannou won in clinch, he didn’t react to flinches and walked him down! Fury had no answer for it and therefore less jabs per round! Francis is great and he showed he can beat Fury
We'll have to beg to differ Adam. For me, he showed that he may have the potential to beat Fury, but there's no way he beat him on Saturday night, close though it was.
Boxing is a joke and it's even more of a joke by how Fury won when anyone watching knows Ngannou won the fight. It's not about how many but how effective
Everyone apart from those who scored the fight with no agenda. The statistic sites. Scoring punches are all landing punches. Whether jabs or power punches. Boxing basics.
@@Glenfunnyman Ngannou threw more punches 231/223, Landed the far more devastating punches. Landed more power shots and had complete control of the ring all night, if u think because tyson landed an extra 12 fairy jabs it just shows that people from ur era are corrupt and simply wont accept anyone else is better than the current so called (best boxer)
No offence mate but your opinion on boxing don’t mean shit the facts are the facts man tyson fury was scared shitless he never had a (bad performance) he just couldn’t bully ngannou the same way he bullied everyone else so his usual tactic of (come forward, Smuther and outstrength) never worked because ngannou is simple to powerful
Ur man literally had to throw an elbow against an MMA fighter in a boxing match because he couldn’t offer any damage, Ngannou day after fight looks like he’s just woke up after a good nights sleep, fury looked like he’s been jumped off 10 men, John, Tyson and Tommy have finally been exposed for the frauds they are and the fury legacy is up in flames. GOODNIGHT FURYS YOU WONT BE MISSED 😂
TH-cam and UFC crossovera have brought us hoardes of casual fans that have absokutely no idea what theyre taking about. These other guys have been waiting for a chance.to throw Fury under the bus. Either way Fury should be embarassed by that performance even though he won. Ngannou legitimately dropped Fury but that was pretty much it.
When did Fury land a punch that hurt Ngannou? he might have won the boxing match but Ngannou won the fight, nothing Fury tried was effective and that's why boxing is a joke
Are you sure you're not refering to Olympic style boxing? A quick google search shows that there a 4 metrics to judge the winner of the fight, not just punches landed: Effective Aggression Ring Generalship Defense Hard and Clean Punches
@@Glenfunnyman I just went to the BBBofC website and read the section on "how to score a contest". It most definitely doesn't say "the person who lands the most punches wins the round" The below are listed as contributing factors: Quantity AND quality of punches Defense Effective Aggression
Totally agree that Tyson won that fight! Landed more hits. Bad performance for him. But he still won - just. A fair result!
Agree totally Douglas.
Thanks for your common sense analysis...I've listened to quite a few experts and almost all of them seem to be in a swoon over Ngannou, or they're reading from the same script! Having only watched the highlights I can't give an opinion on who won, but Ngannou performed very well and Fury was lacklustre and predictable. Gman Boxing gives an interesting take on why Fury performed so badly.
Thankyou. I'll check out Gman.
I don't give a crap about the fighters. I bet on a lot of fights so I go into every bet or fight with no bias. At the end of the fight I was confident Fury had one. After watching back I was even more confident the judges got it right except for the one judge that gave it to Francis.
I was the same.
I didn’t think it was a robbery. It was simply a close fight. I scored this for Tyson, but just barely. I didn’t think Ngannou showed enough ring generalship or scored enough points in rounds 7, 9, and 10. If he was just a bit more active in any of those rounds he may have won the fight.
For you've appraised that fight perfectly.
it wasnt that close result boxing can be close rounds and a land slide result
Meanwhile Rocky and Appolo, were both ripped going for the heaveweight champion.
Best reply of the lot.
Fury lost the fight even with the decision. His attitude towards boxing is disgusting. His return from mental health problems was a farse. He is a constant bullshiter.
Scoring is subjective . you have based your argument on punch quantity not quality.
Use your argument with 70% of fights and it falls down .
I respect your view and as you say,boxing is subjective BUT judges are given the following info."The judges will each award a score to the boxers, and the boxer demonstrating the higher number of punches will be awarded 10 points. If a knockdown did not occur during the round, the opponent is likely to receive nine points, and eight if he was knocked down." That's just a fact.
@Glenfunnyman so by your take on judging if a boxer jabs another boxer 10 times in a round he out scores a boxer who hits him with 9 power punches each punch rocks the boxer recieving the power punch and stiffens his legs and the ropes keep him up after each punch
@@Glenfunnyman That just shows even more how shit boxing is, if Ngannou came out and done what he done and the judges gave him the win maybe the sport would have some credibility but after Ngannou came and battered your boy from pillar to post they gave the score to Fury, only one judge was trying to reserve boxings long term credibility and the others were just worried about the short term money from the Usyk fight. This is why this sport is being consumed and swallowed whole by a greater sport
@@davidjohnson5369 No.Not for me. The power puncher would get my verdict, but that's not what happened on Saturday night. I gave the third round to. Ngannou. I had him winning four rounds including that 10-8. The BBBC guidelines are that "landing punches" are scoring punches but I agree with your point and IF I was judging, your aggressive guy would get my vote although it'd be close.
@@HesiJimbo He's NOT MY BOY and because you don't agree with the scoring system it doesn't alter the just result. If boxing is being consumed by a whole greater sport, I should let the sponsors know. There's a reason Ngannou wants out of MMA and into boxing and I'm an MMA fan.
You're spot on. Hysterical Fury haters don't know their arse from their elbow. You give an honest account.
Many thanks for watching.
Just like ur 34-0 boxer throwing elbows u neek
fury is his own worst enemy he avoided fights then rants he is the most elusive heavy of all time his third fight with wilder is over rated ortiz was beating wilder far easier gets caught ref couldnt wait to stop fight
I don’t think fury lost at all, and I honestly believe he was carrying ngannou for entertainment purposes….if furry was fighting to really win he would have lit ngannou up, my mind is still blown that people don’t see that….fury could care less and is laughing to the bank
No
@@sukhjotgill3394 good for you
@@Teeko253 you gotta be a boxing die hard to be delusional enough to believe that 🗿
Disagree 100 %.
Hi Teeko. Thanks for watching AND taking the time to give your view. I don't think think Tyson carried him personally, I thinking he totally underestimated him. All about opinions. I agree he won. I don't even think it's up for debate from a technical viewpoint and I agree, they are BOTH laughing all the way to the bank.
i admire tyson fury for being 6 foot 9 thats a skill most people dont have
Hard to argue with that.
I believe the outrage comes from the question of how effective was Tyson's punches ....
When you got one guy that is tickling with his opponent with a Jab and the opponent is making your whole body jiggle with every punch .... The scoring gets a bit tricky. What matters more ? The exact number of ineffective punches or who was trying to do damage the whole fight ?
The trouble is.Scoring punches are those that land.It's all down to Queensbury rules,although I take your point.
@@Glenfunnyman Queensbury rules should only be used for two established Boxers, not in these hybrid fights.. there should be hybrid rules too...
When two Boxers are Boxing I would follow the Queenbury rules, every tip tap jab is counted.... Not these Boxer vs MMA fights.... I look at it like a REAL fight.... In a Real fight the guy with the more Mashed Up face is the Loser.
Tyson didn’t look good because of Francis skills.
He shut Fury down and I hope you realize that.
Ngannou won in clinch, he didn’t react to flinches and walked him down! Fury had no answer for it and therefore less jabs per round! Francis is great and he showed he can beat Fury
We'll have to beg to differ Adam. For me, he showed that he may have the potential to beat Fury, but there's no way he beat him on Saturday night, close though it was.
@@GlenfunnymanYh right after elbows and attempted headbutts he won .
over rating of ngannou is really stupid he looked awful didnt land miss hit fresh air fury didnt even try body punches and only landed arm punches
I subbed for the tune 😂👍.
😂Cheers Ian.
@@Glenfunnyman also I fully agree with what you said 👊👊👍. Look forward to more vids....... and tunes 😁👍👍
Good to hear the truth for a change ❤
Boxing is a joke and it's even more of a joke by how Fury won when anyone watching knows Ngannou won the fight. It's not about how many but how effective
Everyone apart from those who scored the fight with no agenda. The statistic sites. Scoring punches are all landing punches. Whether jabs or power punches. Boxing basics.
@@Glenfunnyman Ngannou threw more punches 231/223, Landed the far more devastating punches. Landed more power shots and had complete control of the ring all night, if u think because tyson landed an extra 12 fairy jabs it just shows that people from ur era are corrupt and simply wont accept anyone else is better than the current so called (best boxer)
No offence mate but your opinion on boxing don’t mean shit the facts are the facts man tyson fury was scared shitless he never had a (bad performance) he just couldn’t bully ngannou the same way he bullied everyone else so his usual tactic of (come forward, Smuther and outstrength) never worked because ngannou is simple to powerful
Ur man literally had to throw an elbow against an MMA fighter in a boxing match because he couldn’t offer any damage, Ngannou day after fight looks like he’s just woke up after a good nights sleep, fury looked like he’s been jumped off 10 men, John, Tyson and Tommy have finally been exposed for the frauds they are and the fury legacy is up in flames. GOODNIGHT FURYS YOU WONT BE MISSED 😂
@@LouisG1512 🤣
its clear they over rate ngannou he was bloody aweful the fight to be honest looked coriagraphed
Fury lost
🤣 I made the video for people like yourself.
You’re right, you’re no expert
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TH-cam and UFC crossovera have brought us hoardes of casual fans that have absokutely no idea what theyre taking about. These other guys have been waiting for a chance.to throw Fury under the bus. Either way Fury should be embarassed by that performance even though he won. Ngannou legitimately dropped Fury but that was pretty much it.
When did Fury land a punch that hurt Ngannou? he might have won the boxing match but Ngannou won the fight, nothing Fury tried was effective and that's why boxing is a joke
100% agree on everything you've said there.
@@HesiJimbo You're EXACTLY who I'm talking about.
@@mojorisin8368 You're talking about 99% of the pros saying Fury lost? The 1% are just lying and coping because their favourite sport is in shambles
@@Glenfunnyman You couldn't even say Ngannous name properly, casual
Are you sure you're not refering to Olympic style boxing? A quick google search shows that there a 4 metrics to judge the winner of the fight, not just punches landed:
Effective Aggression
Ring Generalship
Defense
Hard and Clean Punches
That was from the British Board of Control Judges instructions.
@@Glenfunnyman I just went to the BBBofC website and read the section on "how to score a contest". It most definitely doesn't say "the person who lands the most punches wins the round"
The below are listed as contributing factors:
Quantity AND quality of punches
Defense
Effective Aggression