Mannlicher M95 8x50R rifle ballistic gelatine tests
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Firing the Mannlicher M1895 repeating rifle with original 8x50R 1st World War ammo, and field modified bullets to test the terminal ballistics. That was an experiment I planned for a long-long time. Enjoy! And I also sing in this video ,) - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
"The bore is crude, and is no longer accurate." *Proceeds to land a shot almost perfectly in the middle of the narrow gelatin block.
At 50 m only...
I have a 1908 Mosin Nagant that would make 50 meter shot difficult as it has the original factory barrel. After two world wars and most likely a few others in between, the bore is totally screwed. I can still see a little rifling, but it key holes at 50 meters and have a pattern of a little bigger then that block.
I have an Ishapore 2A1 with a pristine bore that would have a hard time doing that.
@@Jesses001 It doesn't help that Mosin rifles were factory zeroed with an extra foot of bayonet on as doctrine was to always keep the bayonets fixed.
capandball most amateur shooters in America don’t ever shoot past 150 meters.
A great tribute btw both my Grandfathers were shot on the Western front and survived. One actually became great friends with a German in the opposite trench. They exchanged names and address, talked long into the dark nights on the front and spent hollidays together after the war.
So they where gay ?
They met during the Christmas truce or after armistice? Just curious. Sorry for your loss
@@bier9041 They tied letters to their granades to stay in contact
You're the most interesting man in Hungary.
Its Krisztián Molnár ;D
American viewers "why are you using metric units?"
Non American viewers "why are you using imperial units"
Everyone "why are you using paces"
Lol cheers
Gabemando It's not authentic unless he measures in Schritt (or however you spell it).
@@danielbutka8854
😊
Paces are technically imperial units
It’s about 3 feet
Weedus i bet every so often though they got a guy with longer legs, I bet he created havoc because his pace count may have been way off.
Emotional video ! Many hungarians encountered our troops (i'm italian) on Carso front and many battles was foughts near Isonzo river. Mannlicher versus Carcano.. Our soldiers called M95 "Ta-pum" for the characteristic noise on long distance shot and an italian war song was called "Ta-pum" for the Mannlicher rifle. So thank you very much for this historical video !
StefanoM68 I'd hate to be the unfortunate bastard that had to carry a carcano into battle lol.
@@TheAsheybabe89 why?
That singing session was absolutely wonderful, that kind of things shows a side of the firearm community that we don't see so often sadly :
The ones that help sharing the memories of the fallen soldiers by showing off their closest companion, their weapons. The bunch of steal and wood that survived theses times more than any soldiers did.
Congratulations for that video, I wasn't expecting less from you!
Great presentation! Not just one alternative, but two.... and a very poignant song. Well done, my friend.
Thanks Rob!
Sam The Sham not like you.
@CIA BETA Wing You are correct. CapandBall hits a man's upper body in 600 meters with the G11. He is a sharpshooter.
Holy shit Balaz! Singer, lover, shooter, historian, reenactor, hunter, competitor, chemist... is there anything you can't do? 🤔👍🏻 Loved the song and the video overall! Ive always wanted a full length Steyr but the long rifles are very rare here in the states.
:) The full length Mannlichers are rare here as well. And if they are in the original caliber, you are doomed. My bore is around 80-85%, so checking accuracy is something that I could not do.
Murphey's Muskets india 8x50r is civilian rifle
@Weedus I´d choose a Mauser M71/84.
@@capandball I got offered a few M95 in 8x50R a few years ago in Upper Austria, but ammo is non-existant here sadly.
@Proli Many want them for their novelty and historic significance. The straight-pull mechanism on the rifle is also a big plus.
We found in Ypres Belgium in 2003 a German Mauser clip (8 X57) with reversed bullets.
We found a tale of the 16th Prussian Jaegers that they made those to weaken up the British sandbags.
We tested this in Lubbock Texas and indeed the bullets fragmented by impact making nice holes in sandbags.
And why.........Just for fun after the sunday church service.
Soldiers serve their country, and follow orders. Most don't hate their enemy; in fact, most would probably be friends, sharing stories of home, what they like, their wives or girlfriends, etc. Politicians should be required to do the fighting, and dying. In retired US Army, served multiple tours 7n Vietnam, but never hated the NVA or VC. Didn't hate the Soviet bloc during the Cold War. Just served, and prayed i would never have to go to war again; or my sons, either. Respect to all who serve their country
It's sad war is in the hands of the people who benefit from it.
Just watch the "Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?!" speech by Göbbels. There you can hear thousands of people shouting for total, all-out war. Sadly war is not only caused by politicians but also the people that vote for them.
@@eurasianlynx5584 that example is not very good. Its prooven that for this speech firstly only radical supporters of Hitler and the Nazis were let in to the Sportpalast and secondly armed Nazis made sure that the speech will look the way it did.
But you are not wrong totally, there will always be some radical people supporting the war, but most of the people do not, especially if they have relatives or friends who have to fight
Not in the pacific in ww2. Marines hated them
You didnt need to, you *WANTED* to invade that foreign country.
The most beautiful video I've ever seen. I'm currently crying out of happiness.
M95 I knew I would find you in the comment section here.
Carolus Rex
I'm everwhere.
Austro-Hungarian weapon?
You turned an almost certainly cliché video (testing with ballistic gelatin) into a very very very interesting and insightful video! Love it, keep up what you are doing because it is special!
I would send anyone who says that firearms owners cannot be learned and responsible to this video. Just as all drivers are not respectful and safe, neither are firearms owners, but the passion, respect and love of history you have is an ethic to which all should aspire.
Thank you for that song, we must remember and respect those who died in the great war so that we can prevent such conflicts from happening in the future.
Upload the song on its own! It's wonderful, you've got a great voice!
Thanks!
Remembrance Sunday 2017. Lest we forget.
I'VE BEEN ASKING EVERY GUN CHANNEL TO DO THIS TEST THANK YOU
Great respect from Bulgaria my friend ! Both ending up on the losing side,both losing half and more of their ethnic terrirotories thus being surrounded by numerous hungarians and bulgarians respectivelly,who had been separated in the neighbouring countries.
Yes
It was the BEST Lock system over the whole world, especially for infantry!
BRAVO !!!
All these comments saying it's such a beautiful rifle, and while it is. The real beauty is the man here, oh my god LOOKIN' LIKE A SNACK.
LocJope I agree (no homo)
Yeah dude of course, no homo.
swordandgunandsteel 😂 omg
As a veteran, I thank you for that heartfelt song. Nice video and information. Shoot lots and stay safe.
Did not expect a ballistics video to start with an old Hungarian war song, but now I realize if they don’t start that way I will be disappointed.
Thanks for this great video.
Great video!
I would be curious to see the same analysis done for the 6.5 mm x 52 bullet for the Mannlicher-Carcano '91 rifle.
In Italy the reversed cartridge trick originated a figure of speech "avere le palle girate", which literally means "to have reversed bullets/cartridges" and actually means "to be in a bad mood".
This rather iconic rifle was also the "cecchino" rifle, where "cecchino" originated from Francesco "Cecco" Giuseppe, Emperor of the Austro- Hungarian Empire at the time, literally meaning "little Cecco", and used to indicate Austro-Hungarian (mainly from Tyrol) snipers, whose aim whose infamously accurate.
A video on my dream rifle in the original caliber just when I have to go to bed :l Thanks for making a video on it, not many videos about m95's on youtube
I’m very surprised that simply cutting an X into the bullet made that much of a difference. The old stories were true about the X in the bullet trick.
they are sometimes referred to as "dum-dum's"
@@aryanson I confirm about the term "dum-dum" bullits. I think that the gelatine does not totally show the devastation these bullits cause in real flesh. It's the hydrostatic shock that is missing in the account. I mention this because testimonies describe that the bullet makes a normal small entry wound but leaves a gaping hole of an exit wound. I doubt that any hit around the center mass could leave a chance of survival. Good thing that they are prohibited in the field. Their effect is definitely horrible and unnecessary.
This video is very fascinating though.
@@ytucharliesierra there is also a trick you can do with round nose soft lead bullets like .22's and some revolver bullets push a phillips screwdriver into the nose also works well
Then also there is a trick you can do with shotgun shells called "ringing" aka hillbilly slugs
@@aryanson Frankly I would fear for the bore of the .22 but I didn't know about that one.
What a beautiful rifle
I have 2 carbines in 8x56R. They look brand new. They were rearsenaled after they were put in the cosmoline. I have both countries. Got them when they first came in. I paid $89 for each. They aren't that price now.
there's one in a local gunshop for $300, its got some ammo and clips, I might jump on it if its still there.
update: jumped on it, one clip and a bit of Bulgarian surplus.
its in great condition.
@@pacman10182 You did well! We had a carbine and a rifle version (8x56R) selling for $575 and $525 each I believe. A collector who loves history had sold them within the last year to the gun shop. Not sure the reasons of why although both looked basically new. No en bloc clips with them though. :/
I've always had a soft spot for the M95 and wish that they were more available in the United States.
I heard that turning the bullet around was primarily used when firing are steel sniper shielding. The flat surface of the bullet hitting the steel would cause fragments of steel on the opposite side to fly off into the face of whoever was using the shielding.
Depends on the type of steel in the shielding. The velocity available will not produce spalling on most any modern steel. The 'ordinary' steel of the WWI era? Maybe. I've never checked. Not to exclude some troops trying it.
That was special... thank you! Hungarian folk songs are so beautiful, very nicely done on guitar, good vocal, too... the little island where I live had its one regiment decimated at the Battle of the Somme. They sent out over 780 and took back 68... lest we forget...
Oh yes, I've been looking forward to this one. The Mannlicher M95 is my favorite rifle and I was hoping you'd shoot one someday. I want to find one but in America the various M95/30 carbines are mostly what we have available. I own a M95/30 karabinerstutzen in 8x56r that I believe was converted in Bulgaria. An original M95 in the original cartridge is at the top of my list next.
Thank you for the video and respect for soldiers of the Great War.
My M95/30 in original caliber kicked so hard I shot it a few times, massaged my shoulder and put it in the safe a few years ago.
ShinyPartsUp The original cartridge was 8x50r but the m95/30's are converted to 8x56r to give them more velocity. They kick worse than a Mosin carbine. That's partly why I am looking for the original 8x50r cartridge guns so it doesn't kick me around as much and because of the historical significance.
I found a shop about 6 months ago in the Midwest that had 2 sporterized M95 carbines in 8x50r. I bought one of the two because the front and rear sights were untouched and the bore was excellent. I called the owner last month and he told me he would do half of what I paid for the second one. Looks like I'll be adding a second to my safe. Lovely mechanism. Problem is finding the 8x50r ammunition. I decided it's time to form some 7.62x54r into something better.
Excellent video buddy amazing how a small x allows for expansion so fast
This is one of the best channels, greetings from Finland and thank you! 😃
100 years later, and here we all are, remembering history together. A war is nothing to glorify, but the soldiers, regardless of nation, should always be remembered. Excellent presentation as always. The song was a fantastic addition. On a side note, this might possibly be one of my favorite rifles of all time.
My Great great grandfather fought on the Isonzo front for the Royal Italian Army as a combat engineer. He lost his leg fighting against the Autstro-Hungarian army. Respect from Molise.
Yes, the battles of the Isonzo were cruel slaughter, without any significant gains on both sides.
Thank you for keeping the history alive for even the most forgotten soldiers
Thanks for the song.
Excellent video indeed. Thank you also for demonstrating the dum-dum bullit and the description of its devastating effect. I'm glad that it is prohibited in the field as it can be considered a very "dirty" weapon, like flame throwers, lethal chemicals and combat knife backs with filed jagged edges.
Cheers from Germany!
RIP table, thank you for your service to the channel.
Kiváló videó! Köszönöm a dalt!
Excellent video ! Really interesting seeing just how a couple jacket incisions have such a pronounced effect on terminal ballistics. Thanks for sharing !
My first reaction to you saying you were going to sing was "Oh no, I'm about to watch my new hero "Jump the shark".
I won't pretend anyone will offer you a record contract, but you're welcome around my campfire any time.
I wish I had seen this when it first launched, I can picture BotR pouring himself a double, Gun Jesus and Othias with their jaws agape and Mae saying "I got this" as she's unbuttoning her blouse.
Gentlemen, on November 12, 2017, the bar was officially raised.
Manlicher, the weapon of choice of Macedonian revolutionaries of VMRO! It was widely used in the 1903 uprising. They were bought in Bulgaria and smuggled in Macedonia. Karabine version was favourite type.
Köszönöm,ez a nagyapám háboruja volt.
Loved this video. That last round was very nasty indeed. Great job and nice song and pics too
would certainly knock a wild boar flat on its back for sure..
Our soldiers did the same (at 10:00). There is still an expression in Italian that is literally: "to turn the balls", which stands for to be angry. It came from those soldiers that were so cruel that they turned the balls in their cartridges to inflict horrible injuries on their opposite numbers ...
Glad you are back Capandball
Enjoyed the song. Seeing a glimpse into the culture of the soldiers of WWI is always interesting - and you are talented.
11:40 Cops are coming to question you over the murder of the table.
SOMEONE GET THIS MAN SOME DECENT MUSICAL RECORDING GEAR!!!! That was beautiful Sir!
This guy gives me spongebob narrator vibes
I have one of the rechambered M95 Stutzen. It uses the 8*56R and kicks hard. I love the action.
EXCELLENT! What a nice blend of history, music, song and of course shooting.
Thanks
That is the best video I've seen in years! Well done my friend, and thanks for that poignant song.
Excellent work, on the guitar, the rifle, ajd the reloading bench!
Wow, what a great video! I've got a Model 95 in 8x56R; I've read a number of comments complaining about recoil, but I didn't think it was any worse that a .30-06 or .308. Terrific guns.
I have to think that most complaints about the recoil come from those who think a .223 Remington or 5.56mm NATO is a real rifle round.
From the USA, I greatly enjoyed the video. The altered bullets deformed and actually fragmented more than I would have expected. In the USA cartridge reloaders in past years would with the .38spl turn hollow base wadcutters backwards to present the hollow base pointing forward in the .38 spl revolvers before modern expanding bullets were available. Another trick in revolvers was was to use overly long bullets of 200 grain wt instead of a normal 130 to 158 grain bullets that would not be properly stabilized and would so tumble. The british used 200 grain loads in the 38-200 loading for the webley revolver and I suspect that it tumbles also. Some countries made the nose of rifle bullets very light, perhaps with an air pocket in the point area of the bullet so that it will not be stable and quickly tumble upon striking flesh. 5.56 nato bullets often tumble in flesh.
Mannlicher proudly served in the Bulgarian army through the balkan war,first and second world wars.Glory to the Bulgarian army
i thought you song was going to be cringey and kinda crap but it turned out beautiful very well done
beautifully sung and another fantastic video
Mannlicher was a genius.. I owned a Hungarian M98 and disassembled it to see how it operates. IMO, there's no way this rifle can fire without being locked up. It's just as safe as a bolt action rifle.
I love my m95 long rifle made at steyr in 1916. It does very well on watermelons lol.
Cassandra Elizabeth von to own a M95, you have to be the coolest woman around.
I didn't realize that the X-heading would increase the results quite so dramatically. Nice demo. I know the 8x50 and 8x56 are pretty respected rounds, and they hit hard with their heavy bullets. Straight pulls are very interesting to me. A few years ago i picked up a half sporterized Ross through a friend. I need to start working with it. I have a No. 4 Mk1 SMLE too, so my .303 base is covered. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work
Nagyon szép volt a katona dal... Köszönöm szépen.
I've been waiting for some m95 love on this channel.
Great song! I believe I have the carbine version of that rifle.
The really long range settings on the sights are for volley fire. A bunch of soldiers shoot at a general area and lay waste to a large swath rather than an individual soldier trying to hit a specific target. It was used when artillery wasn't available.
One of the best presentations I've ever seen,you deserve tons more views and subs in my oppinion
One of your best videos yet.
Nice song. Slovenians also remember the battles at Doberdob. "Doberdob, slovenskih fantov grob."
The war is long since over, respect should be paid for the soldiers who suffered on all sides. I appreciate the song, it was a nice touch.
I am amazed at the amount of damage those small notches in the tip caused. I have to wonder, when using those long, round-nosed bullets, if one were to sand a flat spot, say about the size of 1/4 of the nose, if that would cause the bullet to tumble almost upon impact. The sideways profile of the bullet would be significantly larger than that of any expanded round, the point of impact should not be affected within reasonable range, and as the bullet doesn't expand, it wouldn't violate that troublesome Hague Convention. Anyway, this was a most excellent video full of a lot of very interesting information. I do so love old cartridges. Thanks for all your hard work.
My grandpa used one of this in ww2
Pretty good singing and guitar playing!
Mannlicher is legendary riffle in Bulgaria, with witch our army fought the two world wars. It was used in Bulgarian army till 80-s. With very strong shot and punctual. It is mentioned in a lot of songs.
That was gruesome. The notched nose exceeded my expectations.
I am Hungarian and was born in Hungary also, you did a great job with the guitar singing the song. Very deep song. 🇭🇺
Straight Bolt pull is what I like to see :)
I enjoy watching your videos my friend, these are really like watch a military documentary. (I love documentaries and historical science videos.)
Thank you for your song in tribute of the fallen....
I pulled the trigger. You’re my first Patreon!
A rich and cultural man who has a stylish life, playing guitar and shooting antique guns. This is Europe!
This is in contrast with the video of hippies, fats, and Russians shooting full-automatic rifles on the ranch. ( I like Mr. Hickok's videos, they are educational )
i love my M95, was the 1st surplus I ever purchased. I payed $40 US for it back in the 1980's..8x56r....neat rifle!!
De jó látni, hogy van magyar ember, aki ilyenekkel foglalkozik.
I have a Mannlicher chambered in 8x50R. I can very rarely find ammo for it, and when I do, it usually costs $45/5 rounds.
I live close to Doberdò. I am also from the ex Austrohungarian empire (well, my grandparents). Thanks for your song and your so nice and professional explanations and testing. From Monfalcone, Spartaco Giacometti.
Your work is fantastic !
Always like your presentations. Well thought out and the historical background information is excellent. Thank you
Guns, guitars and cars
Gorgeous sad song. My Grandfather being a Pole and veteran of WW2 sung such songs and language is the only difference.
Dzien kuje Bratinko, too many of us Eastern Europeans have fallen in battle.
RIP
You honor the fallen in song. Your a good man. I am proud to know you.
Officers and soldiers of the Dutch colonial army (KNIL) in the Dutch East Indies used ammo with crosses on the point or the point shaven or drilled away in the M95 Steyr/Hembrug 6,5 mm Mannlicher carbines to effectively hunt wild boar. The 6,5 mm bullets were similar in shape to the bullets shown in this movie (so no 'spitzer' bullets!).
You are one of the best youtubers. Greats from Germany!
Very nice tribute to all those fallen soldiers.
Lest We Forget.
i love my original rifle and carbines. All chambered in 8x56R, but that ammo is relatively easy to get here in the US and can be had in softpoint for hunting.
Capandball is an excellent channel.
I got that song on repeat on spotify - all the kids are singing it!
You sir, very well rounded !! Good job!
Beautiful song! Thank you! A soldiers dreams are always the same.............