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Why? Looking at distance from one bale to another looks like vicon and mchale make the same distance. I don't see why the would by lower density in mchale.
Still got to stop for the bale to get out of the chamber, bet the vicon is better on fuel being at a steady speed all the time no stop start and accelerating
The guy in the Fastbale is crusing along steady under no pressure, The guy in the McHale is busting his hole to maintain pace at short fast intervals and the operator in carrying out at least 20% more physical actions inside the cab not to mention higher speeds and possibility of rough ground. So on these points Fastbale certainly wins. Now McHale being McHale as always reliability, build quality and easy of daily and yearly maintenance may have the edge there. But if maintenance efforts and reliability can be matched by Fastbale the wins hands down again. I did hear a rumour the guy who designed the Fastbale approached McHales First with the concept and he wasn't entertained at all. Then he approached Vicon. Well hey ho ya snooze ya loose. Now if AGCO would only hurry up and release the Welger Continuous Baler and end all arguments that would be great. Non Stop round bailing is no doubt the future that much is clear. But who is going to master it? Personally i would love to see McHale buy the patent of the Welger/Vermeer Continuous Baler concept off AGCO , perfect it and blast it out on the market.
@SteelRodent Vicon has the possibility to change the wrapping speed. And if the settings are set well (fast speed), it is the fastest wrapper on the market.
Do you know where the different with the fast Beta you don’t put the brake all the time where in tear your brakes on your tractor pathways nice about it
Great comparison. But in reality you could not keep that speed the fusion is doing up all day every day. Something would have to give. It's looks very hard on man and machine. Both look like excellent machines though. Big question is dealer backup when contractors making the purchase.
All mchale balers apart form the old one have a faster flowing system and the new Mchale fusion 4 has a even better proflow system the balers are also very good at uncloging them selves
of course u can keep up. You can drive in a comfortable tractor, fendt or john deere or whatever and all u have to do is drive. everything is automatic. These balers are built for rough Irish conditions
Dieses Video ist sehr interessant! Der Kampf der Giganten, wenn es um Geschwindigkeit beim Silage pressen geht. Was mich echt interessieren würde ist das Gewicht der Ballen. Ich denke in Sachen Formschönheit kommt nichts an McHale vorbei. Hat jemand erfahrung wie die Fastbale im nassen Herbstgras performt? Wie ist der Gewichtsunterschied und der Leistungsbedarfunterschied? Für mich gehören in diese Liga des Silagepressens auch Göweil und Kuhn.
Der Unterschied ist die Ballen der Mc Hale können bei der Geschwindigkeit nicht fest gepresst sein . Soo was braucht man nicht ich bar so eine Presse gehabt .....
Put that 10 ton Vicon on some steep fields and it would be a nightmare! Backing all that weight up to safely park bales on steep hillsides. Not to mention pulling it through very wet patches and soft ground. It’s a good idea but for most of us it’s a non starter as apposed to a non stop!
On a steep field in my oppinion you don‘t want any of these machines. In the worst case filled with two bales in a not very comfortable heigh… No, at least I prefer a smaler baler in my steep fields. And steep is always relative…
Visconti slow and steady. Lovely machine
Surely the vicon has to be kinder on the tractor? Just plodding along no wear on clutch brakes etc.
Yes and you are using less fuel because of less accelerating
If a contractor baled at that speed, don't think he would be back for next cut. Very low on density.
Why? Looking at distance from one bale to another looks like vicon and mchale make the same distance. I don't see why the would by lower density in mchale.
Put a Mchale fusion 3 up against the vicon and mchale be half down next bout by time it gets to end. Bale transfer on vario holding it back massively
Still got to stop for the bale to get out of the chamber, bet the vicon is better on fuel being at a steady speed all the time no stop start and accelerating
The guy in the Fastbale is crusing along steady under no pressure,
The guy in the McHale is busting his hole to maintain pace at short fast intervals and the operator in carrying out at least 20% more physical actions inside the cab not to mention higher speeds and possibility of rough ground. So on these points Fastbale certainly wins.
Now McHale being McHale as always reliability, build quality and easy of daily and yearly maintenance may have the edge there.
But if maintenance efforts and reliability can be matched by Fastbale the wins hands down again.
I did hear a rumour the guy who designed the Fastbale approached McHales First with the concept and he wasn't entertained at all. Then he approached Vicon. Well hey ho ya snooze ya loose.
Now if AGCO would only hurry up and release the Welger Continuous Baler and end all arguments that would be great.
Non Stop round bailing is no doubt the future that much is clear. But who is going to master it?
Personally i would love to see McHale buy the patent of the Welger/Vermeer Continuous Baler concept off AGCO , perfect it and blast it out on the market.
Well said. I agree. You know your stuff.
Krone Ultima is the real champ here.Undefeated
@@gumelini1 IDK. That Krone looks like a lot of machine to do the same job...
@@stemac391 and yet it needs less HP and less maintenance then any of these while having a higher efficiency and making denser bales
The future on flat ground maybe, not much of that around here!!
which made the better bale??
Love the vicon i think its the future
Big question for me would be has the vicon the build quality and reliability of the mchale
Why can't the vicon travel as fast?
Dunno would the vicon be fit for the heavy crops of Ireland UK New Zealand etc
@SteelRodent Vicon has the possibility to change the wrapping speed. And if the settings are set well (fast speed), it is the fastest wrapper on the market.
Do you know where the different with the fast Beta you don’t put the brake all the time where in tear your brakes on your tractor pathways nice about it
Great comparison. But in reality you could not keep that speed the fusion is doing up all day every day. Something would have to give. It's looks very hard on man and machine. Both look like excellent machines though. Big question is dealer backup when contractors making the purchase.
Looks like the fusion was getting pushed on.
All mchale balers apart form the old one have a faster flowing system and the new Mchale fusion 4 has a even better proflow system the balers are also very good at uncloging them selves
of course u can keep up. You can drive in a comfortable tractor, fendt or john deere or whatever and all u have to do is drive. everything is automatic. These balers are built for rough Irish conditions
Dieses Video ist sehr interessant! Der Kampf der Giganten, wenn es um Geschwindigkeit beim Silage pressen geht. Was mich echt interessieren würde ist das Gewicht der Ballen. Ich denke in Sachen Formschönheit kommt nichts an McHale vorbei.
Hat jemand erfahrung wie die Fastbale im nassen Herbstgras performt? Wie ist der Gewichtsunterschied und der Leistungsbedarfunterschied? Für mich gehören in diese Liga des Silagepressens auch Göweil und Kuhn.
Them bales being made in the mchale couldn't be packed going at that speed bailing a raked row
Der Unterschied ist die Ballen der Mc Hale können bei der Geschwindigkeit nicht fest gepresst sein . Soo was braucht man nicht ich bar so eine Presse gehabt .....
Put that 10 ton Vicon on some steep fields and it would be a nightmare! Backing all that weight up to safely park bales on steep hillsides. Not to mention pulling it through very wet patches and soft ground.
It’s a good idea but for most of us it’s a non starter as apposed to a non stop!
On a steep field in my oppinion you don‘t want any of these machines. In the worst case filled with two bales in a not very comfortable heigh…
No, at least I prefer a smaler baler in my steep fields. And steep is always relative…
All knives must be down in mchale. Chopper couldn’t work at that speed. I’ve owned 3 various mchales
not a fusion 3 of fusion 4, probably a fusion 1
Once McHale, always McHale ...
McHale hands down every single time
Now bring a Krone and watch magic happen
Parts lefted behind the whole field?
@@OleSoraker Krone is number 1. when it comes to balling and chopping.No matter what you armchair farmers say
McBale
Vicon Fastbale is the best!