Updating my Atari Missile Command Arcade Machine!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ม.ค. 2020
- We've got some restoration work to do on this retro arcade game! Adding high score saving, improving and customizing the coin door, upgrading the coin mechs, making a new operation sheet, applying new stickers, and even trying out Super Missile Attack.
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Someone's already gotten in touch offering to help make some professional-looking "1 coin = 1 play" stickers!
Along with many other helpful tidbits and offers, so thank you. Y'all are awesome :D
I'll bet if you had tokens made, some people would actually buy them from you. It would likely help cover costs.
let us see when you get them
Check out tokensdirectstore. Looks like they can make custom coin op tokens.
@LGR (in Keanu Reeves voice) No, YOU are awesome!
Nice cabinet, and i love how you obsess over little details, i'm exactly the same when i start tinkering something :)
I was wondering why you were not just using overhead transparency sheets. They have 'em for inkjet and laser.
You should tag this as "Restoration", those kinda videos are popular right now.
And rename the channel to "The 20-bit Guy" for that's the amount of bits it takes to address 1MB of RAM?
But where is Jhonny Arcade.
Oooh so that's why youtube keeps suggesting me all these restoration channels :P
Not to me.
That's one fancy piggy bank!
I was gonna say, great way to save your change!
I was about to write the same, at least is a great way to save money xD
i get guests in my house so when mine is complete it makes beer money
@@kyle12367 My father's friend owned a bunch of one armed bandits, and arcade machines. He trained up and worked as a service technician. Then he started buying broken units and fixing them (or keeping them if the customer did not end up paying for the repairs made). Then he would offer them to bar, restaurant, and coffee shop owners, and he would get a % of profit. He saved up enought money to set up his own restaurant, debt free. He had a problem unit, he would fix it and it would fail again in two months or so. So he ended up lending it to me, until it failed again. Te coin mechanism was set up to accept anything roughly metalic and round. It was set up on our garage. Soon we had all kids in the neighborhood coming to play, using real coins. Only time in my life I had a satisfactory amount of "pocket money", lol.
@@Fridelain Remember what it was? The Machine I mean.
When I worked at Chuck E. Cheese’s, I took great care and attention at keeping the games and machines in good order. I found a lot of the old manuals, made adjustments to the settings to put them in compliance with company policy, and found long-since dead lights and fuses and implored my boss to order the replacement parts so we could get those machines looking as new and fresh as possible.
Props for upgrading the plastic coin mechs to proper metal. The plastic ones never felt right, got jammed easier, etc.
I’m glad to hear someone at Chuck E’s took good care of the machines. The ones at our local restaurant were always a little on the busted side. Except for the 4+ player beat-em-ups like X-Men and TMNT... those were always in great working order, probably because they made the most money.
Did you work there in the glory days before the 1984 bankruptcy and Nolan Bushnell's exit? Man, it was fun going there up until about 1988 or so while they still embraced the arcade aspects before going all super-bright and shiny...
Jeremy Holloway Nah, it was the mid-2000’s. So it was a healthy mix between the good stuff like the classic Skee-Ball machine, and the slightly newer things like the basketball hoops and coin pusher games.
Mainly I got satisfaction at bringing back to life visual cues on the older 80’s/90’s machines that had been neglected for so long.
that's so freaking awesome
@swamprock I hate it when they do that. They need to send it to people who can dump their roms and preserve them.
I totally get the substance of this video. It's the little details, the ones that aren't something everyone is going to notice, but you will. Not to mention, they add an air of completeness to the project. It's like, I'm building a retro gaming PC, and I have an nVidia GeForce FX 5500 in it for graphics, and I've been searching high and low for one of those 3D puffy "jelly" badges that the FX 5500 would have come with that says "GeForce FX Series". Even the tiny details, _especially_ the tiny details, make a project worth it in the end.
I know. I was the same with my Q9650 build, finding the right metallic stickers, like the more recent holographic "Intel Core 2 Quad Inside" sticker, a "Designed for Windows XP / Windows Vista Capable" one & so on, which I was able to find sets of on eBay.
Oh I know the kinds of stickers you're talking about, they're commonly known as gel stickers or dome stickers, always loved seeing those on products back in the day.
@@BillyTheCat128 Yeah, man, those things were the shit back in the day. I mean, I like the flat foil ones they have now, but those dome sticks just exuded awesomeness.
Yes its like even though it's on free play there is a quarter sitting on the machine for the next player.
There's a HAL 9000 prop to mount on PC cases now, it's sweet
I use to work as an arcade tech, 80-90% of my job was cleaning the coin mechs would jam and all the dust, dirt and grim from everything the coin systems like you showed and all the controls would get "gummed" up like this, then the dust always getting dust off the PCBs and power suppllies, so many systems i would see dead due to heat and burning up cause of dust build up.
That last part was sad
How did you end up cleaning the dust from the PCB and power supplies? I can imagine using a vacuum or compressed air after you take it outside, or rubbing it with something dampened by alcohol, but I don't know if that would be effective enough.
You can clean PCBs in the sink, or dishwasher. I did it on my Neo Geo board and it looks brand new. Make sure to remove any batteries, and be sure to rinse the board with alcohol to make sure all the water is gone/dry.
Aladdins castle here , where did you work?
@@AxialFlux How do you rinse the board with alcohol? The best I can imagine is getting a ton of alcohol in a tub and repeatedly pouring cupfuls of it over the PCB, but that seems ridiculous. There's got to be a better, cheaper way of doing that. Would putting alcohol into a spray bottle do the trick?
*works on coin ejector transparencies*
"I wonder if he'll make his own-"
*makes own custom labels*
"Be neat if I he'd make his own tokens-"
"I wonder if I can get custom made tokens?"
The Force is with me, but it's running REAL slow this morning. :P
It's all begins with 0.2 oz
@@theforce82 r/beetlejuicing/
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Now you can adjust for inflation too.
75¢
Withdrawing $200 in quarters just to have sit in an arcade machine for the aesthetic is a big flex
The best piggy bank
Washers would have been cheaper:)
as i kid there was a nickel arcade we would go to. stocking a machine for nostalgia would be a lot cheaper :)
@@Allcastlegames that is avtually false. He would have had to buy the washers, meaning he would have had to spend money. He did not buy these quarters, he already had the money. That 200 dollars never left his posession
@@jbfarley But the money isn't free, as in free to actually spend it. Don't want to calculate how much beer and pizza you could buy from that. Apropos pizza, there was a pizza parlor in my hometown in the early 1980s having a Missile Command cab (full size). Now LGR might have an explanation why the reject mechanism was sticky. It might have been 80s cheese and other toppings. Mmmmm 80s cheese. ;-)
Remember: the only winning move is to have a friend that collects cabinets and NEVER buy one yourself.
Same with boats 😁
It starts innocently. One here, one there...then one morning you wake up and your entire house has been exact-fitted with arcades everywhere, your garage is an arcade repair shop. And you found a group of guys and galls who love them as much as you do, that come for "arcade parties" every two or three weeks.
@@aserta This is why the machines should not be set for freeplay. Use quarters for repair cost and buying new machines 👍
Everyone should own at least one arcade machine :)
A strange game, the only winning move is not to play...
I bet most of those quarters aren't even period accurate.
lol I never thought of that. Wonder how many of those 800 quarters would qualify. 1965 to early 80's. (Older ones were already pulled from circulation because they contained silver.)
@Marginally Sapient Cactus Actually, Dimes and quarters were made out of silver for 1932 through 1934 if my memory is correct(I collected coins years ago). They look like normal quarters and you can find them in your change time to time. A silver quarter in good shape can be worth around $70, or so, so not always worthless... I have a few that I just got in change, if you drop 2 quarters they make a known sound but, the silver ones even the dime does not...
@Marginally Sapient Cactus Well, the silver coins are worth something like $50 in silver alone but, getting one is kind of rare but, in modern days, your right but, if you get a odd ball one, maybe you'll get one worth more. To my point our money was not always worthless..
I'm just imagining him going to his bank and buying $200 in quarters. I, um, have a LOT of laundry to do. Oh, btw, can you make sure all of them are from 1980 and before? The teller would tell him "GTFO of here you weirdo!". ;-)
Oh, man. Your remark got a genuine laugh out of me just when I needed one. Thanks! But, then I started thinking, how many late 1970's quarters do I actually have here in my piggy banks? Thankfully I pulled up short before I actually went to sort them and start counting! I'm settling for playing late 70's rock , followed by New Wave.
"I am Clint and I insist things be authentic except for the changes I make because it pleases me!" 😁
Wouldn't you?
I can't wait for LGR to become an arcade restoration channel.
There's a guy called Luke Morse that has a dedicated arcade restoration channel on TH-cam. You might want to check him out
One of the great things about LGR is that it is so many things.
@@alextirrellRI He even has a food channel.
No one:
LGR: I put 200 dollars of quarters in my home arcade machine so it sounds authentic.
Could have gotten a handful of washers from home depot and put them down there.
Take that Mr. Beast! You have nothing on Clint
"Almost no one"
There, fixed it for you.
He could have used pennies, but *he'd know*
@@stonent electrical box slugs worked back then
19:07 can we all take a moment to appreciate that woodgrain Gameboy light switch plate? Lol.
You just reminded me of that Seinfeld episode when they need to save the Frogger high score and transport the machine. If that chip were around, they wouldn't have much of an episode.
Had the same thought as you.
How did it stay for that long? Surely there would of been a few blackouts in those years.
Awesome episode!
There is something satisfying in restoration and upgrading of "low tech" electronics
Awesome video! I spent a lot of grass cutting money in machines like this! This video took me back to Frank’s Pizza circa 1981.
Now you also mention pizza, I wonder how many of the total produced cabs Missile Command ended up in a "greasy" environment.
1:55 Man....Bet George Costanza wishes he had one of those,
And Frogger also had a woodgrain cabinet!
I would have to check, but I believe there is now a high score kit for Frogger as well. If you didn't know the original game does NOT keep high scores with initials. It just shows the score and ranking. So you had to just know who's scores were whose back then.
He'd have to turn the machine off to install the chip.
The first thought that went through my mind when LGR started talking about that.
Those metal coin mechs sound so satisfying!
LGR gave me Retro PC addiction and now he’s giving me Arcade addiction
I don’t need I.... I don’t need it!
I NEEED IIIT!!!
"When in doubt, PCB out"- funny cartoon starfish (1999)
Man I love the looks of those old circuit boards! Nowadays, a chip the size of a Q-tip, can do everything that entire board does... times, how they change... My game was Tempest, but Missile command is fun too...
The board though looks like it would just shatter if you breathed on it. :)
In the early 80's after this machine came out it became common to roll a custom ULA for a machine like this, basically 1 chip that'd replace most of those small 74 series logic chips, it was drastically cheaper to get your own chip made than having to get dozens of discrete logic chips.
@@chartle1 they're actually a lot stronger than you think...
@@Quickened1 yea but just looks fragile (thats italian) :)
my favorite from the early to mid 80s is probably bosconian totally underrated but fun as hell.
Nothing says retro gaming like woodgrain paneling. I love it!! Missile Command is a classic. I'm really digging the sheer size of the arcade cabinet. It's almost as big as an Arcade1Up arcade cab without the riser.
Honestly seeing those custom coin return stickers just makes me smile.
THE END, instead of GAME OVER.
damn, that's an original revision then, I remember they changed it for being 'too dark' essentially
How the hell is "THE END" too dark?
@@mechanismeight9565 missle command came out around the time of the cold war iirc. The designer of the game even reported having nightmares during it's development.
@@matthewrease2376 Well, that makes sense, but I still don't get how it was too dark for the game to say THE END instead of GAME OVER.
@@mechanismeight9565 to quote a song: "it's the end of the world as we know it"
The end is more ominous, whereas at the very least "game over" can ground the player back in reality and remind them it's a game (assuming they forgot lol)
@@matthewrease2376 Now it makes sense, I see why people call it ominous. That's also a good song, but I don't remember the name.
"I dropped 800 quarters into this thing"
I can just hear 80's kids drooling over the thought of having this amount of quarters in an arcade hall
I can hear the bank-dude being like "How many...?"
@Jimmy Lee or 1 can of soda
This brings me back to working at an arcade in an amusement park back in high school/college. Those machines were fun to open up and tinker with.
Love the soothing jazz on the intros,its so calming.
I just love watching anyone passionate about a hobby being so enthusiastic about it that they can’t wait to share it with everyone! As always Clint’s happiness is contagious! Another great vid!
Ive always been fascinated with these cabaret cabinets and I've been working on getting my own arcade cabinet recently. Love the upgrades and personal touches!
I love all the little touches and upgrades. Definitely keep us posted as you continue to work on this.
I can feel the love you have for the unit coming through the screen. This was a great video and I hope you continue to keep us updated as you keep improving it.
For a sec I only read Missile Command and thought "oh, LGR is dealing with military technology now... oh, well."
Hahaha
Like he had got an old minuteman silo haha
@@hwykng82 "All these buttons, and switches, and dials, and turnkeys, and those awesome CRT terminals! I just gotta press and toggle all the things!..." Last ever episode of LGR, Game Over planet Earth. ;-)
@@hwykng82 You *can* get those, actually. All the military hardware's been removed, of course. I think there may be... about a dozen up for sale? Preppers, or just people looking for a unique home, like to buy them. Problem is, not everyone has that kind of money (I found prices of anywhere from $400,000 to $3.2 million). Plus, not all of them are in great shape, having been decommissioned more than 50 years ago, so it could be quite a project to renovate.
@@hwykng82 Dude, a decommissioned nuclear silo would make for a great barcade/B&B. If anyone patents that business model based upon this comment, I'm suing! :)
i freaking love this channel! best channel on youtube! No matter the topic i find every video worth watching. I love most things that bring that nostalgic feeling and just your joy for anything you do is just so peaceful and refreshing!
Also those LGR coin return buttons look awesome!
It's so much fun watching you work on this! So cool!
Quarters hitting other quarters was a simple pleasure and added so much to the arcade gaming experience. Good idea filling the bucket with quarters!
Maybe printing the "insert coin" labels at both sides (reversed at the back) would make the contrast better with the backround light.
Always enjoy me some restoration work. I certainly wouldn't mind more of this.
Fantastic effort Clint. Love the details you notice like coin noise being wrong. Amazing!
My main 40 hour a week job Mon-Fri is an electronics technician who works on a LOT of arcades, redemption games, jukeboxes, photo booths etc and this was super entertaining to see you do it from a fresh perspective. I enjoy what I do and am glad you got some personal satisfaction out of the little things on your machine like I get to do every day. Keep up the good work Clint!
Atari: Have you played Atari today?
Clint: Yes. Yes I have.
you need to invest in a 3d printer, you would find so many uses for it dude
Agreed dude. Just gotta do some research and choose the right one!
@@LGRcant wait to see it in action! 😆
@@LGR you just can't go wrong with the Ender 3. $200 base price and then you can start modding it with the things you really need. no need to pay $800 for a Prusa.
3D printers are cool, but not helpful in reproducing certain things like coin reject buttons and even coin door bezels, etc, or most trim on control panels. Control panels and especially coin doors were built to be kicked by snot nose teenagers, you need metal to get the right look and feel. Refurbing arcade games is an odd mixture of scavenging the internet and then also fabricating your own parts for those times when your cabinet frame is rotting from the bottom, etc., and for the structural stuff inside the cabinet where most people wouldn't see it - arcade owner/operators back in the day didn't have 3D printers! Do it the old school way!
@LGR For something small like a token, you'd get the best results from a 3D printer that uses resin, although the post processing of the prints can be quite messy. But you can't argue with the awesome results. Heck, you could probably make your own custom keycaps too.
Totally loving this video. Love watching you revive old hardware, and then even make it your own. Happy 2020 Clint!
Great work maintaining your machine and the small touches are great! Love to see such a classic game preserved well.
Man, this takes me back. Back to the days where there were these places called "Arcades" where kids and young adults would gather to play the latest video games. My game of choice was "Lunar Lander". Loved that one.
Also, your next step should be the side stickers to replace wood grain cabinet.
Hearing how excited LGR was when he made his custom coin release labels was so charming.
So awesome!!! Loved those little personal touches.
This is so cool!! Love the attention to detail to your restoration of it!!
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you pretty much always upload at 11pm on friday for me so its bow a common thing to see a zombie version of me waddling over to my phone to watch some cozy youtube content
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts! All those little details add up disproportionately to the awesomeness of your machine! Well done!
Awesome stuff. Been following and dreaming of getting a machine or 2 for about 4 years. Love watching your excitement and enthusiasm.
This is my favorite arcade cabinet game
Its so hard to emulate tho because the gameplay just isnt the same without a track ball
True that! It's why I bought an X-Arcade Tankstick for MAME back in the day, having a trackball is essential.
Missile Command and Centipede both had to have a track ball (an inverse mouse, if you will. Get off my lawn kids today don't even know a mouse had a trackball inside it back in the 90's!).
I'm with LGR here, I found Missile Command to be absolutely fiendish and therefore draining of my 10 pences (the UK equivalent of a USA quarter).
@@Drew-Dastardly I personally think centipede works fine with a D-pad.
My dad had an arcade machine when i was a boy, and this vid brings back memories to me. Thanks, Clint
This was cool! More of this please! Lol
It was endearing watching you nerd right out over something so trivial but so important to you.
This so satisfying to see people like you attached to tiny details recreation or improvement. Your enjoyment is very communicative! Thank you again for your vids.
I keep a Pacman board I fixed next to the TV. It's amazing how big these boards are for what little (by today's standards) they do.
If only someone uploaded a video of inserting $200 of quarters into an arcade machine. That would be epic.
dude, this channel has already this video
LGR Blerbs, my man. If you haven't already checked it out, you should go see it :)
Marius Carl
Pretty sure he’s being sarcastic
Only LGR would spend $200 just to make a coin door sound a little nicer. I love it.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN technically he didn't spend it. He just made a transfer. 😆😋
Hi Clint! It's always a pleasure to watch you take pleasure in your technical obsessions. Thank you for sharing! I can clearly see someone is peering into a deep dark rabbit hole of arcade machines :D
Great update on the Atari Clint! Had fun watching the improvements on the machine! Looking forward to the next one! More power and God bless from the Philippines!
I remember Ross from Accursed Farm got a coin from Carnevil 3D printed for him, so maybe something like that could work for your customs tokens.
Soaking the sheet in cold strong tea for a while and then drying it would give you the yellow color you are looking for. Test on a blank sheet first to get the timing right.
Came here to say the same. It would definitely make the sheet look old and yellow
Great video, and great job! Love the attention to detail and passion you have. Really makes for compelling and enjoyable content. Looking forward to more videos!
You are such a geek- LOVE IT!!! the little details are what makes hobbies (any hobbies) fun- keep up the good work
Very nice! Maybe the screen could use some convergence work some time too! At 4:05 you can really see red/blue being off (Not a criiticism, more of a video idea ;) Excellent production as usual!
Definitely, the CRT has a number of little issues that could do with addressing.
I didn't know it had airplanes.
Edit:
Some of those save upgrades support the internet and expanded score sizes.
Internet connected high scores? That's pretty fun!
@@jameswalker199 Expect for the fact that you'd need to be one of the best players in the world to be able to touch it. :^)
Such a great video! I get the feeling many times throughout the video that you’re almost apologetic for it not being some huge massive overhaul of the main board or a complete refurbishment. Everything you did was fantastic and keep it up!
This was a lot of fun to watch in a laid-back, stress free kind of way. Please make more!
put two identical paper "25c" labels on top of each other to improve black levels :)
12:26 I was never even alive when these were comon and those sounds still made me tingle!
I am not American, not really into cabinets and not old enough to have played on one of these, and this is still one of the most satisfying videos I've watched in forever.
I love your attention to detail, way to go man!
George Costanza and his Frogger high score... 🐸
Was thinking the same thing! LOL
at 12:27 I was kind of expecting a Duke voiced "ah, much better!"
Sheppards1984 “Nice”
sound slike peter from family guy
This is one of my all time videos on TH-cam as a whole
It just makes me so exciting watching this :)
I really like the things you have done to this machine. Good work! :)
But can it accept the most important global currency known to mankind: Chuck E Cheese tokens?
Probably very easily since it's just mechanical.
Definitely stronger than the Euro post Brexit! "Oh oh!" - in Sam Kinison's screams...
19:37 "Hope that you enjoyed this video." Redundant phrase detected.
The sounds when you plunked the quarters in is SO satisfying, this was great!
One of my favourite videos of yours Clint, its the passion and child like glee is just great to see, as well as seeing this old beast back to it's former glory.
The game that gave me a headache after round 100, havent played it since that saturday in 87.
Now I see why you put in all those quarters in that machine.
I love this so much, It is so cool to watch the old tech being clean and fixed!
Wish I could thumbs up a million times. Getting obsessed over fixing little details pretty much describes any part of a hobby I get in to, it feels so satisfying to see you fix all the small stuff you might not even see everyday, but you KNOW you've fixed it, and it's perfect.
RIP LGR home. The internet burglars now know where he keeps his quarters. :(
Tokens can be bought relatively cheap (for the amount you get) .. you'd need to replace the plastic part of the mech's tho. they have to match the tokens. (experience from my Asteroids deluxe )
i did get a little lucky on my end i got my token mech's from a chucky cheese that was going outa business so i got a bucket of tokens to go with it. kept my quarter mech's to tho.
Loved this video! Love that attention to details.
It's funny how satisfying it was watching you clean and update the coin slot inserts and coin return doors. It must be fun having a nice original cabaret arcade game! Although surely takes work. None the less! Again, an oddly satisfying video to watch ☺
You put 200 dollars worth of coins in there 🤨. Talk about over kill 😂
The sound man... the sound!
You can't put a price on nostalgia! Lol
Seriously though, I get it. It's all about the minutia. If it doesn't "feel" right, then it's just plain wrong. Besides, it's not like he can't make a withdrawal whenever he needs a coffee.😁
9:20 not same font.. this bothers me
but he changed it anyway
It's important to pick _anything but Arial_ when doing these things.
Microsoft Sans Serif is actually super-close to Helvetica, although Impact was probably the choice to go for on the numbers here.
The original font looked like shit
So much detailed attention. Good stuff.
Very nice little original details there. Love the idea of putting a ton of coins in the coin tray for the "correct" money drop sound! A lot of work obviously went into this. Glad it payed off!
5:55 DOOR STUCK!
3:01 Dude these connector traces are in really bad shape :/
Yep, it's a 40-year-old arcade game used by the public and "maintained" by countless random people over the decades. These things get beat up, it's a fact of life!
@@LGR There are replacement harness connectors and female pcbs you can buy, I would honestly advise replacing the harness connector and soldering the edge connectors of the board to a new PCB, it should help frevent future damage to the board
Great video, Clint! Super interesting to watch.
A great video, your genuine enthusiasm shows 👍
This was a satisfying watch. Well done!
One of my favorites episodes. You seem so enthusiastic, like a kid. A nice work by the way !
I love this whole project and the attention to detail
Really enjoyable video. Love the attention to small details.