The only family issues that this camera has is that it's so good and light that it's been the first choice for my wife and I don't have any chance to use it 😂
Nice summary of the X-S20. I've had the X-S10 since its release and am really satisfied with it, and the X-S20 has all the upgrades I would expect in a successor. With the two card slots, you can work around it by recording video to an Atmos and one to the internal SD card, so you have redundant storage for video at least.
Think the x-s20 is a real sweet spot - the small size, big grip, and new processors really just make this great to use, more so each day. This has been my intro to fuji, very nice complement to the z8. Can't really completely bridge the UX differences with the nikon, but from a behavior point of view it's really just what I was looking for - excellent image quality, nice physical handling, solid AF, and probably enough spare processor to see some firmware improvements over time. Will see how this plays out, but right now unexpectedly happy with these as a pair - similar, but each better at some things than the other, so very complementary.
i love the xs20. it has so many nice features. can even use as a webcam for my mac. i used to have big pro cameras before. now i want something small & light to take on my travels. the headphone jack is on the other side because when you vlog - it does not get in the way of the screen. i am a recent fugi convert after shooting for years with sony.
This camera fit me perfectly. Great grip, lightweight, onboard flash for those 90s nighttime shots, great autofocus, open gate 10bit video, all new simulations and last but not least - IBIS. Only thing I'm missing is more of the retro aesthetic that X5/X100V/X-Pro3 has. Had the X5 had a better grip and onboard flash, I would probably have gone for it.
i do think that the XT4 has also a better EVF and being that this is the reason why i prefer using that over my XS10 (which should have the same EVF as the 20) is another point in it's favor. I had to add an additional grip on it, however. In this regard the ergonomics of the x-s line are better than the X-T ergos.
New viewer here (I liked and subscribed, honest!). Great review and the images look so nice. I’m debating between this and a used X-T4. I’m a hobbyist, and I live in Southern California, so one card slot and no weather sealing are less of an issue for me (but I 100% get what you’re saying about both - if it’s for work, that’s completely different).
Great video. Really nice included photos too. I’ve gone backwards and forwards trying to decide whether to ch age or not and have finally decided to keep my x-t4, add a small grip and get a couple of lenses instead! Finally happy with my decision and I can stop watching all the x-s20 videos now 😂 when I research I go all in!!!
I have the x-s20. Its a wonderful tool. Weather sealing and the second card slot are overrated. I never had issues with quality cards and i dont take pictures when raining. The raw processing in the camera is magnificent. I never had to work those with other sw. Thats a big time saving!
I agree with you. The only time weather sealing has been useful to me was when I was shooting time lapse with my H1. The weather was dodgy and there was an unexpected shower. I grabbed my camera and ran for the car. I quick wipe down and it was none the worse for wear.
@@niftyfiftyfilm4457 you also have the possibility send all the files in full size to a phone during the wedding. The x app could improve on stability though
@Goughie I've been using an X-E1 in wet conditions for 12 years and going. If it's not a torrential rain, that is. Same tricks as with film, wide brimmed hat, sometimes a plastic bag with the corner cut for lens.. yet to have a problem. I've never owned a water resistant 35mm after all. 😊
Yeah, since Fuji basically aren't in the entry-level camera game anymore, all of their bodies should have weather sealing and maybe even dual card slots (the x-s20 definitely should).
Awesome review Goughie! Certainly agree on all points. Having 2 card slots and weather sealing are a must for me too. Some of the many reasons I keep my trusty X-T4 :D BTW, that photo at 3:33 of the clouds... simply perfect!!! Cheers!
My favorite Fuji camera ever. Never liked the xt3 because of the battery, lack of grip, no flippy screen and no IBIS. This camera checks all the boxes for me. Eye AF and animal ey af is also very good.
I hear ya about the X-T4 as an alternative - but the X-S20 is smaller-in-hand, and for me that felt like a really nice bonus - that I'd actually use the camera more-often because of the smaller size. (Nice video!!)
Agree on the single card slot. I'd definitely use this for galavanting but can't bring this to a pro event as anything other than a b-cam, and even then it'd have to be glued to a Ninja V+ for data redundancy.
Great all around camera , also used in lashing rain while visiting Dublin Zoo night lights paired with 56 mm WR and no issues whatsoever with great photos and fast AF .
Thank you! I’m not surprised it holds up to a bit of rain!
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Thanks Goughie ! I have an XS-10 but often struggle to get the focus on my running kid. The other day he was having a blast on a swing, and I wanted to capture that, but at high aperture, I did not manage to get a sharp shot using the new 33mm F1.4 at f2.8 (you may ask why I didn't stop down the lens). How much of an improvement would the XS-20 bring? Is it visibly slower than X-H2S due to the slower senor readout?
Another great view Goughie! How well does the XS20 autofocus keep up with the XH2S and it's stacked sensor? I am seriously considering XS20 over the XT4 / XH2S due to weight and size
I didn’t do a side by side! I’m not sure the difference is huge tbh, depends what you’re taking photo of I guess! The XH2S blew my mind when photographing flying puffins at 600mm! But that was pretty extreme, moving people etc not sure you’d notice a huge difference
Has a sweet hidden feature for us log shooters If you use flog 2 the dual gain iso kicks in at iso 3200 and cleans up the noise in the video, now you can slap in the Fuji official luts or phantom, earth luts or grade it the way you want and get the benefit of clean image in low light, plus the noise pattern is like filmic grain that is super super super easy to clean up in post This thing is a beast in low light when paired with fast primes like the Siriu t.1.2 nightstalker lenses Or the Tamron 17-70 f2.8 zoom Also can output raw 12bit 4.2.2 all intra video through HDMI externally. It's a beast for video when rigged out and cold well Ulanzi camera cooler is a cheap way to cool the body and extend video recording, yes it can cover a 3 hour concert with that cheap 25$ cooler
Have the XS-10 and love the ergonomics, but disappointed in hit rate for photo AF when using other than single point AF. Something perhaps in the algorithm. Did you get a chance to test the AF in photo - other than single point - but not using object recognition? Results?
2nd video in a row you dropped a gem in the end recommended an alternative, I like that. Keep doing it in other videos. Btw I got the CS20 and like it a lot, along with the slew of xt line before the 5. Debating if it's worth upgrading to xt5 Z Btw what are the video issues on 40 mpix
From memory based on what mode/res you are because it’s got 8k pixels and outputs 4k it does one of the following 1. Various Crops and only reads a part of the sensor 2. I think some of them read the entire sensor and then scale down the output, and it readout speed isn’t great so you get a lot rolling shutter It’s the kinda stuff that if you only dabble with video it’ll likely be fine! Hoping to get my hands on an XH2 soon and I’ll do some size by sides if. I can!
I own this and the X-S10 (I’d trade for an XT-30) and for a hybrid camera I think they made the right chooses with sensor and whatnot.. I do wish it was weather sealed. I love the grip over most Fuji cameras. I could do without the rattling strap hooks as the grip is so good I don’t use one. I have figured out I need a new computer to use 6.2k. Now that the weather is starting to cool down here I’m going to try to get more wildlife shoots in with my 150-600. Carry on….👍🏻
Nice review and I agree with most of it. I have the XT5 but as I am going on a trip and required a backup that will also be used for video I looked at the XT4 . But it is bigger, heavier and auto focus in video is not as good as the X-S20, I went for the X-S20. Weather sealing, what happened to the old trick of a plastic bag. To suggest professionals do not or will not use cameras with one card slot is not true. Weddings or events with one camera setup, sure, probably not for the faint hearted, but thats why one carries more than one. Leica Q2/3, fujifilm X100V, Leica M10 etc have all been and are still used by professional photographers. Sometimes I think the One Card slot is the new paranoia.
I hear you, having over 10 years had some cards fail you wouldn’t see me doing a wedding with a single card camera only, Once we’re talking multiple cameras I hear what you’re saying, but I doubt that same person with multiple cameras is even considering an XS20 if they have a Q3 as a spare backup camera
I too have had cards fail but generally I realise it very quickly when chimping and change them out. Normally I have only lost a few photos when recovered with software. I also doubt if I owned a Q3 I would have a X-S20 as backup, even as it only has one card slot.
it depends. do you need/want an interchangeable lens camera? yes? X-E4 (or X-s10 for the grip or X-t30 for the ergonomics) but you need the best af/very good video specs ? X-S20 u you need 2 cards and weather sealing? X-t3 (for photo) or X-T4 (for video, but if no need for latest AF) or X-T5 (if you want a 40mpx sensor) And I didn't factor in the budget but it goes from around 900$ used to 1700$ brand new. But it depends on you needs fisrt.
Like the others have said it all depends on your use case! Do you make use of the leaf shutter, the built in ND etc of the X100V? They are two very different cameras for two very different requirements! Very hard to compare them!
This is a fair review. Your point about the X-T4 is well taken. I just got the S20 and since I travel, the scale (literally) and size tips to make it a better choice over the T4. The more I use it, the more impressed I am. I just got through grading some FLog2 footage and it looks great! I took the test footage with a vintage 1968 Canon FL 58mm f1.2 and a FD 24mm f2.8 that I bought new in 1972. I'm amazed at how sharp these lenses are. I don't have to add bloom or halation in post, at maximum aperture they have a touch of both.
I personally don't see the family issue, as the XT4 & the X-S20 has different processor, the Gen 5 processor is faster & has got some features not available to X-trans 4. X-S20 is the little brother/sister of the X-H2S, one is more pro, one is less. The differentiation is clear. I have the X-T3, looking for an upgrade, so am leaning more towards X-S20 than X-T5.
It's really funny because the price of this camera that I saw advertised in Australia was that it was very similar to the XH2S... So I wouldn't go for this camera given that that camera has better specs. In fact it's very similar price to a XT4 and I think you're getting a better overall package with an ex-T-4 than this camera. I'm not criticising Fujifilm I think the S 10 was great, but I don't feel the S-10 really needed an upgrade. To be honest I felt that camera was actually really good and I don't see any major huge leak going from the S 10 to the S 20 to be honest but I can understand why they want to release a new model, and this model does appeal to content creators because it's light in small so I suppose from that perspective and content creators to like upgrades. Maybe us Photography people not so much.... Honestly, the S-10 focused pretty well. I did one shoot where I took 400 shots of people at a corporate event and I think I missed about 10 shots 15 maybe but I always took multiples anyway, so not a big deal in terms of the auto focus, every camera will miss at some stage
@@Goughie pretty much every camera in Australia starts off at a really high price and does not appreciate much at all. The S 20 was advertise for about AU$2600 in most places. I thought that was excessive given that you can buy an S 10 now for about 1000 bucks. I would not be spending $2600 on a camera that is not weather sealed. That said it is a great camera and great for Vloggers has an even photographers
It’s a pretty big upgrade! I feel like IBIS is the big one! I think the best question is, what do you want that the XT2 doesn’t do? Then see if the XS20 is a good match
Honestly after using cameras both with and without weather sealing, with and without two card slots (yes in professional settings!), I'm over the whole worry and panic about weather sealing and the two card slots. Unless you're shooting a crucial moment that can never be recreated (say a wedding), I'd say you're worrying too much about the possibility of cards failing. Also the X-S20 (like all other non-weather sealed cameras) will probably not fall apart just because of a drizzle outside. Unless you're shooting in the pouring rain, odds are your camera will be fine. The only reason I would consider the X-T4 over the X-S20 is the EVF, because that's a palpable everyday quality of life aspect. But sacrifice that in favour of better autofocus? That depends on what you shoot. If you shoot dogs like I (partially) do, then hell yes! Screw the EVF, go for the better AF! If you shoot portraits, street or landscape... screw the X-T4 get the X-T3 for even less money and you'll still be very happy!
I’m curious what professional work you’d do without a back up card; Away from weddings even a simple fashion shoot would cost me a few hundred pound to rehire talent etc if a card failed that it’s better spent on a better camera I think 4 occasions in 10 years of photography for me; which is enough tbh I get what you’re saying on non sealed cameras being often being okay, but I’m not going to sit on TH-cam and tell people to do it, it won’t be warranty covered and it’s a risk that’s up to others to make, not for me to suggest
@@Goughie I shoot tethered in most situations, the card is the backup, everything goes to the computer. On a high stakes shoot the client often needs to see the result on a big screen during the shoot anyway…
Yeah idk why people are so paranoid about weather sealing lol. U can just buy a cheap raincover. Obviously not a camera that I would bring in heavy conditions but will do wonders as carry on travel camera.
You are comparing a hybrid camera and photography first camera. So its different family. If you shoot mainly photos, of course XT4 is a better choice, (dual slot card, weather sealing, better EVF). But if you want a camera that can take photos well and great at videos, XS20 is better choice (6.2K open gate, vlog mode, etc)
I think my point is the XT4 is very close for video, my requirement is a hybrid yet I wouldn’t choose the hybrid… I question how many people need, Vlog mode… just set up a custom slot with most of the feature 6.2k open gate, how many people need it, In the gen 4 cameras, the XT4 kinda was the hybrid for most people
@@Goughie Yeah I said about hybrid camera, and you can think they are both hybrid. But what I tried to say is, XT4 is better for photography and XS20 is better for video creation. Right now, 6.2K open gate 4:2:2 10 bit is a very important aspect of my workflow. I think you underestimate it, because I know many people that want and need that feature. And currently, XS20 is the most affordable camera that have it.
1:52 Excuse me? In Sony line, even a6400 is (claimed) weather sealed, let alone a6600 and a6700. From Canon, R7 now is the same price as X-S20, and has weather sealing. Lumix G9 has weather sealing, as the G95. E-M5 line has weather sealing. Even Nikon Z50 claims some amount of weather sealing. We can clearly see 0 weather sealing in the battery compartment at 1:20, not even a hint of any gasket. Nor are there gaskets on the port doors 2:11. Which at this high price point is ridiculous.
What I DO NOT like is that overheats like crazy , almost impossible to use. I have tried everything and NOTHING works, not even the Fuji "Expert" sales rep can give me an answer. I feel is silly to have to buy an overpriced plastic fan . This camera is made for recording mainly, should not overheat like this. Any ideas. Also, it will not work with the record button on my DJI ronin gimbal, so every time I have to start recording I have to physically press the record button on the camera itself, I am sure you can guess how uncomfortable this is. Terrible !! I cannot believe no-one can come up with solutions for this.
Let me ask you something, when on earth you had a problem with the card reader? Or how many time. 😂Exactly.......I never had. Why are people so desperate....no idea. The chances to have a problem with your card reader are so tiny, especially if you use good cards, that is more likely to get in an accident going to your client photoshoot rather than having a card failure....Mind blowing.....its a pointless worry. Just saying...math doesn't lie😂😂.
I’ve had I think 4 incidents in 10 years, if that was 4 weddings I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night! Thankfully for me it was issues with TH-cam videos and that’s it! Because well I wouldn’t do a paid shoot without backup, And if you’re curious, they’ve been a combination of Sandisk and Lexar, the maths indeed does not lie 😂😂
@@Goughie you must be unlucky man.🫤 Never heard of anyone having this kind of problem to be honest. But hey, if that makes you sleep better, then why not. Its crazy that happened to you 4 freaking times...Can't believe it ..😂😂😂
I bought 4 XHS II cards for my X-T5. I had problems with two. In fairness Lexar customer service was top notch and I got two replacement cards. The other two are fine as are the replacements. There is a case for considering risk. Everybody has to weigh up their own circumstances. The recent Western Digital (who own the SanDisk brand) issues are case in point.
You didn't mention main Fuji flaws : No reliable AF-c in Video mode , Ibis wobling , no tap focus to select subject for af-c in video ( this is paininaass) Still no stab in 6.2k mode ? If you more doing photography and don't wait a lot from this camera as a video camera so it will be good choice.
Since the new gen I’d argue that AF-C is more than capable now! Likely still not sony levels but good enough for 99% of things, I can’t remember when I last deleted a clip because it was wrong The cameras gone back so I can’t check… pretty sure IBIS and OIS both work on 6.2k… definitely does on the XH2S can’t see why it wouldn’t move over
The afc in video mode is excellent for general use. Not Sony's level but very very capable. It has also excellent ibis far better than any sony that i have used with little to no wobble even on 13mm. (Far better than the xt-4 on that aspect). Also 6.2k ofc has Ibis. This little camera for the price point is one of the best choices for hybrid use.
@@mex5341 It doesn't have advanced tracking system. But when you click on someones face it does track it without switching to anothers person face. It's not 100% reliable though. In real life situation you don't need something more than that. In a lab ofc something like Sony is gonna win on that subject by a mile.
The only family issues that this camera has is that it's so good and light that it's been the first choice for my wife and I don't have any chance to use it 😂
😂😂😂 sounds like me and my X100V
@@Goughie indeed my gf would pack the RX100V whenever we went out.
Recently just got the xs20. It's now my A cam for my type of filmmaking. Really impressed by it overall. Nicely done review!
Nice summary of the X-S20. I've had the X-S10 since its release and am really satisfied with it, and the X-S20 has all the upgrades I would expect in a successor. With the two card slots, you can work around it by recording video to an Atmos and one to the internal SD card, so you have redundant storage for video at least.
Think the x-s20 is a real sweet spot - the small size, big grip, and new processors really just make this great to use, more so each day. This has been my intro to fuji, very nice complement to the z8. Can't really completely bridge the UX differences with the nikon, but from a behavior point of view it's really just what I was looking for - excellent image quality, nice physical handling, solid AF, and probably enough spare processor to see some firmware improvements over time. Will see how this plays out, but right now unexpectedly happy with these as a pair - similar, but each better at some things than the other, so very complementary.
i love the xs20. it has so many nice features. can even use as a webcam for my mac. i used to have big pro cameras before. now i want something small & light to take on my travels. the headphone jack is on the other side because when you vlog - it does not get in the way of the screen. i am a recent fugi convert after shooting for years with sony.
This camera fit me perfectly. Great grip, lightweight, onboard flash for those 90s nighttime shots, great autofocus, open gate 10bit video, all new simulations and last but not least - IBIS. Only thing I'm missing is more of the retro aesthetic that X5/X100V/X-Pro3 has. Had the X5 had a better grip and onboard flash, I would probably have gone for it.
i do think that the XT4 has also a better EVF and being that this is the reason why i prefer using that over my XS10 (which should have the same EVF as the 20) is another point in it's favor. I had to add an additional grip on it, however. In this regard the ergonomics of the x-s line are better than the X-T ergos.
Does Xt4 capable of open gate? If not, then that is the biggest reason to buy xs20 "IF" you are a content creator.
New viewer here (I liked and subscribed, honest!). Great review and the images look so nice. I’m debating between this and a used X-T4. I’m a hobbyist, and I live in Southern California, so one card slot and no weather sealing are less of an issue for me (but I 100% get what you’re saying about both - if it’s for work, that’s completely different).
Great video. Really nice included photos too. I’ve gone backwards and forwards trying to decide whether to ch age or not and have finally decided to keep my x-t4, add a small grip and get a couple of lenses instead! Finally happy with my decision and I can stop watching all the x-s20 videos now 😂 when I research I go all in!!!
I have the x-s20. Its a wonderful tool. Weather sealing and the second card slot are overrated. I never had issues with quality cards and i dont take pictures when raining. The raw processing in the camera is magnificent. I never had to work those with other sw. Thats a big time saving!
Awesome! It’s all use case dependant isn’t it! It’s not overrated for someone who takes photos in the rain 😅
I agree with you. The only time weather sealing has been useful to me was when I was shooting time lapse with my H1. The weather was dodgy and there was an unexpected shower. I grabbed my camera and ran for the car. I quick wipe down and it was none the worse for wear.
Second card slot isn't over rated on paid shoots. Can't exactly ask the couple to redo a wedding... would work as a second body tho!
@@niftyfiftyfilm4457 you also have the possibility send all the files in full size to a phone during the wedding. The x app could improve on stability though
@Goughie I've been using an X-E1 in wet conditions for 12 years and going. If it's not a torrential rain, that is. Same tricks as with film, wide brimmed hat, sometimes a plastic bag with the corner cut for lens.. yet to have a problem. I've never owned a water resistant 35mm after all. 😊
Yeah, since Fuji basically aren't in the entry-level camera game anymore, all of their bodies should have weather sealing and maybe even dual card slots (the x-s20 definitely should).
Awesome review Goughie!
Certainly agree on all points. Having 2 card slots and weather sealing are a must for me too. Some of the many reasons I keep my trusty X-T4 :D
BTW, that photo at 3:33 of the clouds... simply perfect!!!
Cheers!
Cheers mate! That photo was the only one I took with the 8mm that I actually liked! 😂
Good review. In terms of the comparison with the xt4, how does the ibis stack up between them please?
This looks to be a great camera. It offers something different to the X-T line, which is my preferred camera.
My favorite Fuji camera ever. Never liked the xt3 because of the battery, lack of grip, no flippy screen and no IBIS. This camera checks all the boxes for me. Eye AF and animal ey af is also very good.
I hear ya about the X-T4 as an alternative - but the X-S20 is smaller-in-hand, and for me that felt like a really nice bonus - that I'd actually use the camera more-often because of the smaller size. (Nice video!!)
Agree on the single card slot. I'd definitely use this for galavanting but can't bring this to a pro event as anything other than a b-cam, and even then it'd have to be glued to a Ninja V+ for data redundancy.
It’s perfect for galavanting!
@@Goughie good because that's my favorite pastime!
Great all around camera , also used in lashing rain while visiting Dublin Zoo night lights paired with 56 mm WR and no issues whatsoever with great photos and fast AF .
Great review BTW !!
Thank you! I’m not surprised it holds up to a bit of rain!
Thanks Goughie ! I have an XS-10 but often struggle to get the focus on my running kid. The other day he was having a blast on a swing, and I wanted to capture that, but at high aperture, I did not manage to get a sharp shot using the new 33mm F1.4 at f2.8 (you may ask why I didn't stop down the lens).
How much of an improvement would the XS-20 bring? Is it visibly slower than X-H2S due to the slower senor readout?
Another great view Goughie! How well does the XS20 autofocus keep up with the XH2S and it's stacked sensor?
I am seriously considering XS20 over the XT4 / XH2S due to weight and size
I didn’t do a side by side! I’m not sure the difference is huge tbh, depends what you’re taking photo of I guess! The XH2S blew my mind when photographing flying puffins at 600mm! But that was pretty extreme, moving people etc not sure you’d notice a huge difference
is there a way to disable Fuji's aperture rings that don't have the physical aperture lock?
Has a sweet hidden feature for us log shooters
If you use flog 2 the dual gain iso kicks in at iso 3200 and cleans up the noise in the video, now you can slap in the Fuji official luts or phantom, earth luts or grade it the way you want and get the benefit of clean image in low light, plus the noise pattern is like filmic grain that is super super super easy to clean up in post
This thing is a beast in low light when paired with fast primes like the Siriu t.1.2 nightstalker lenses
Or the Tamron 17-70 f2.8 zoom
Also can output raw 12bit 4.2.2 all intra video through HDMI externally.
It's a beast for video when rigged out and cold well
Ulanzi camera cooler is a cheap way to cool the body and extend video recording, yes it can cover a 3 hour concert with that cheap 25$ cooler
Have the XS-10 and love the ergonomics, but disappointed in hit rate for photo AF when using other than single point AF. Something perhaps in the algorithm. Did you get a chance to test the AF in photo - other than single point - but not using object recognition? Results?
Single point and zone tend to be my favourite two options and it worked great in them! Very similar to the XT5 I used earlier in the year
2nd video in a row you dropped a gem in the end recommended an alternative, I like that. Keep doing it in other videos. Btw I got the CS20 and like it a lot, along with the slew of xt line before the 5. Debating if it's worth upgrading to xt5 Z
Btw what are the video issues on 40 mpix
From memory based on what mode/res you are because it’s got 8k pixels and outputs 4k it does one of the following
1. Various Crops and only reads a part of the sensor
2. I think some of them read the entire sensor and then scale down the output, and it readout speed isn’t great so you get a lot rolling shutter
It’s the kinda stuff that if you only dabble with video it’ll likely be fine! Hoping to get my hands on an XH2 soon and I’ll do some size by sides if. I can!
Wow you are so lucky what a beautiful model
Ahah! The ultimate cheat code! Photograph your girlfriend 👌🏻
@@Goughie nah, if you were cheating you would put her in the thumb. Loved the video. Maybe I should get this camera 🤔
I own this and the X-S10 (I’d trade for an XT-30) and for a hybrid camera I think they made the right chooses with sensor and whatnot.. I do wish it was weather sealed. I love the grip over most Fuji cameras. I could do without the rattling strap hooks as the grip is so good I don’t use one. I have figured out I need a new computer to use 6.2k. Now that the weather is starting to cool down here I’m going to try to get more wildlife shoots in with my 150-600. Carry on….👍🏻
Ahah! The rattling strap hooks are LOUD on video aren’t they, I would buy some little leather strap lugs to silence them!
What about xs20 vs om5?
Budget option?
Right or left eye priority... WELL- just capture ONE OF IT!
Nice review and I agree with most of it. I have the XT5 but as I am going on a trip and required a backup that will also be used for video I looked at the XT4 . But it is bigger, heavier and auto focus in video is not as good as the X-S20, I went for the X-S20. Weather sealing, what happened to the old trick of a plastic bag. To suggest professionals do not or will not use cameras with one card slot is not true. Weddings or events with one camera setup, sure, probably not for the faint hearted, but thats why one carries more than one. Leica Q2/3, fujifilm X100V, Leica M10 etc have all been and are still used by professional photographers. Sometimes I think the One Card slot is the new paranoia.
I hear you, having over 10 years had some cards fail you wouldn’t see me doing a wedding with a single card camera only,
Once we’re talking multiple cameras I hear what you’re saying, but I doubt that same person with multiple cameras is even considering an XS20 if they have a Q3 as a spare backup camera
I too have had cards fail but generally I realise it very quickly when chimping and change them out. Normally I have only lost a few photos when recovered with software. I also doubt if I owned a Q3 I would have a X-S20 as backup, even as it only has one card slot.
When this first came out I thought the X-T4 is and this are in a really weird spot together
Sony and Canon?
I'd look at the lens lineups and the cost of that glass.
Would it make sense to go to this camera if I already own a x100v?
it depends. do you need/want an interchangeable lens camera? yes? X-E4 (or X-s10 for the grip or X-t30 for the ergonomics)
but you need the best af/very good video specs ? X-S20
u you need 2 cards and weather sealing? X-t3 (for photo) or X-T4 (for video, but if no need for latest AF) or X-T5 (if you want a 40mpx sensor)
And I didn't factor in the budget but it goes from around 900$ used to 1700$ brand new.
But it depends on you needs fisrt.
Like the others have said it all depends on your use case! Do you make use of the leaf shutter, the built in ND etc of the X100V?
They are two very different cameras for two very different requirements! Very hard to compare them!
This is a fair review. Your point about the X-T4 is well taken. I just got the S20 and since I travel, the scale (literally) and size tips to make it a better choice over the T4.
The more I use it, the more impressed I am. I just got through grading some FLog2 footage and it looks great! I took the test footage with a vintage 1968 Canon FL 58mm f1.2 and a FD 24mm f2.8 that I bought new in 1972. I'm amazed at how sharp these lenses are. I don't have to add bloom or halation in post, at maximum aperture they have a touch of both.
I really want to have a play with some vintage glass for video! This is a good reminder to do it! I currently do add all the bloom etc in post 😂
I personally don't see the family issue, as the XT4 & the X-S20 has different processor, the Gen 5 processor is faster & has got some features not available to X-trans 4. X-S20 is the little brother/sister of the X-H2S, one is more pro, one is less. The differentiation is clear. I have the X-T3, looking for an upgrade, so am leaning more towards X-S20 than X-T5.
It's really funny because the price of this camera that I saw advertised in Australia was that it was very similar to the XH2S... So I wouldn't go for this camera given that that camera has better specs. In fact it's very similar price to a XT4 and I think you're getting a better overall package with an ex-T-4 than this camera. I'm not criticising Fujifilm I think the S 10 was great, but I don't feel the S-10 really needed an upgrade. To be honest I felt that camera was actually really good and I don't see any major huge leak going from the S 10 to the S 20 to be honest but I can understand why they want to release a new model, and this model does appeal to content creators because it's light in small so I suppose from that perspective and content creators to like upgrades. Maybe us Photography people not so much.... Honestly, the S-10 focused pretty well. I did one shoot where I took 400 shots of people at a corporate event and I think I missed about 10 shots 15 maybe but I always took multiples anyway, so not a big deal in terms of the auto focus, every camera will miss at some stage
Woah! Here’s the XH2S is £2500 and the XS20 is £1500! So they aren’t even close!
Is that because the XS20 is overpriced, the XH2S underpriced, or both? In Canada, the XS20 is around $1700, and the XH2S is around $3200
@@AlbertRutter in Australia the xh2 S you can get now for about 2,800 the S20 is about 2600 I would buy the XH for the difference
@@Goughie pretty much every camera in Australia starts off at a really high price and does not appreciate much at all. The S 20 was advertise for about AU$2600 in most places. I thought that was excessive given that you can buy an S 10 now for about 1000 bucks. I would not be spending $2600 on a camera that is not weather sealed. That said it is a great camera and great for Vloggers has an even photographers
@@nevvanclarke9225 that's mental. I wouldn't buy either in that scenario, honestly. I got my xs20 body for the equivalent of 2000 AUD
Is it a good upgrade from xt2 for filming?
It’s a pretty big upgrade!
I feel like IBIS is the big one!
I think the best question is, what do you want that the XT2 doesn’t do? Then see if the XS20 is a good match
Honestly after using cameras both with and without weather sealing, with and without two card slots (yes in professional settings!), I'm over the whole worry and panic about weather sealing and the two card slots. Unless you're shooting a crucial moment that can never be recreated (say a wedding), I'd say you're worrying too much about the possibility of cards failing. Also the X-S20 (like all other non-weather sealed cameras) will probably not fall apart just because of a drizzle outside. Unless you're shooting in the pouring rain, odds are your camera will be fine.
The only reason I would consider the X-T4 over the X-S20 is the EVF, because that's a palpable everyday quality of life aspect. But sacrifice that in favour of better autofocus? That depends on what you shoot. If you shoot dogs like I (partially) do, then hell yes! Screw the EVF, go for the better AF! If you shoot portraits, street or landscape... screw the X-T4 get the X-T3 for even less money and you'll still be very happy!
I’m curious what professional work you’d do without a back up card; Away from weddings even a simple fashion shoot would cost me a few hundred pound to rehire talent etc if a card failed that it’s better spent on a better camera
I think 4 occasions in 10 years of photography for me; which is enough tbh
I get what you’re saying on non sealed cameras being often being okay, but I’m not going to sit on TH-cam and tell people to do it, it won’t be warranty covered and it’s a risk that’s up to others to make, not for me to suggest
@@Goughie I shoot tethered in most situations, the card is the backup, everything goes to the computer. On a high stakes shoot the client often needs to see the result on a big screen during the shoot anyway…
Yeah idk why people are so paranoid about weather sealing lol. U can just buy a cheap raincover. Obviously not a camera that I would bring in heavy conditions but will do wonders as carry on travel camera.
You are comparing a hybrid camera and photography first camera. So its different family.
If you shoot mainly photos, of course XT4 is a better choice, (dual slot card, weather sealing, better EVF). But if you want a camera that can take photos well and great at videos, XS20 is better choice (6.2K open gate, vlog mode, etc)
I think my point is the XT4 is very close for video, my requirement is a hybrid yet I wouldn’t choose the hybrid… I question how many people need,
Vlog mode… just set up a custom slot with most of the feature
6.2k open gate, how many people need it,
In the gen 4 cameras, the XT4 kinda was the hybrid for most people
@@Goughie Yeah I said about hybrid camera, and you can think they are both hybrid. But what I tried to say is, XT4 is better for photography and XS20 is better for video creation.
Right now, 6.2K open gate 4:2:2 10 bit is a very important aspect of my workflow. I think you underestimate it, because I know many people that want and need that feature. And currently, XS20 is the most affordable camera that have it.
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Excuse me? In Sony line, even a6400 is (claimed) weather sealed, let alone a6600 and a6700. From Canon, R7 now is the same price as X-S20, and has weather sealing. Lumix G9 has weather sealing, as the G95. E-M5 line has weather sealing. Even Nikon Z50 claims some amount of weather sealing.
We can clearly see 0 weather sealing in the battery compartment at 1:20, not even a hint of any gasket. Nor are there gaskets on the port doors 2:11. Which at this high price point is ridiculous.
Apologies! I didn’t realise the A6000 series was weather sealed!
This XS20 definitely isn’t that’s for sure
What I DO NOT like is that overheats like crazy , almost impossible to use. I have tried everything and NOTHING works, not even the Fuji "Expert" sales rep can give me an answer. I feel is silly to have to buy an overpriced plastic fan . This camera is made for recording mainly, should not overheat like this. Any ideas. Also, it will not work with the record button on my DJI ronin gimbal, so every time I have to start recording I have to physically press the record button on the camera itself, I am sure you can guess how uncomfortable this is. Terrible !! I cannot believe no-one can come up with solutions for this.
Not seeing the screen three voice is identical to game of thrones Denarius brother.
Viserys or Rhaegar though… 😅
Let me ask you something, when on earth you had a problem with the card reader? Or how many time. 😂Exactly.......I never had. Why are people so desperate....no idea. The chances to have a problem with your card reader are so tiny, especially if you use good cards, that is more likely to get in an accident going to your client photoshoot rather than having a card failure....Mind blowing.....its a pointless worry. Just saying...math doesn't lie😂😂.
I’ve had I think 4 incidents in 10 years, if that was 4 weddings I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night! Thankfully for me it was issues with TH-cam videos and that’s it! Because well I wouldn’t do a paid shoot without backup, And if you’re curious, they’ve been a combination of Sandisk and Lexar, the maths indeed does not lie 😂😂
@@Goughie you must be unlucky man.🫤 Never heard of anyone having this kind of problem to be honest. But hey, if that makes you sleep better, then why not. Its crazy that happened to you 4 freaking times...Can't believe it ..😂😂😂
I bought 4 XHS II cards for my X-T5.
I had problems with two. In fairness Lexar customer service was top notch and I got two replacement cards. The other two are fine as are the replacements.
There is a case for considering risk. Everybody has to weigh up their own circumstances.
The recent Western Digital (who own the SanDisk brand) issues are case in point.
You didn't mention main Fuji flaws : No reliable AF-c in Video mode , Ibis wobling , no tap focus to select subject for af-c in video ( this is paininaass)
Still no stab in 6.2k mode ?
If you more doing photography and don't wait a lot from this camera as a video camera so it will be good choice.
Since the new gen I’d argue that AF-C is more than capable now! Likely still not sony levels but good enough for 99% of things, I can’t remember when I last deleted a clip because it was wrong
The cameras gone back so I can’t check… pretty sure IBIS and OIS both work on 6.2k… definitely does on the XH2S can’t see why it wouldn’t move over
The afc in video mode is excellent for general use. Not Sony's level but very very capable. It has also excellent ibis far better than any sony that i have used with little to no wobble even on 13mm. (Far better than the xt-4 on that aspect). Also 6.2k ofc has Ibis. This little camera for the price point is one of the best choices for hybrid use.
@@GeorgeKalokairinos you can not use touch tracking ... how can you choose subject to track if there more than one person in frame ?
@@mex5341 It doesn't have advanced tracking system. But when you click on someones face it does track it without switching to anothers person face. It's not 100% reliable though. In real life situation you don't need something more than that. In a lab ofc something like Sony is gonna win on that subject by a mile.
@@GeorgeKalokairinos i said the same. Af-c is unreliable. Still a problem in Fuji cameras
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